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Dawn of War II E3 Intro
~My money is on Nids as the mystery at the end. What do you think it is?
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Dawn of War II E3 Intro
~My money is on Nids as the mystery at the end. What do you think it is?
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The clouds in the sky at the end of the video the farseer refers to as the "owner" of the planet..... Tyranids???
PS.: First one, finaly.^^
I can confirm there are Tyranids in DoWII
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE TYRANIDS!
That is all.
Hmm I could see Tyranids yeah, but it also seems like it could've been Warp stuff - like Daemons or other forces of Chaos - or even, at a stretch, Necrons again.
But damn that was visceral. Like Rambo 4 level violence.
It's gotta be nids. I can't see it being anything else.
At least this time we got to see the marines in a good, even fight. Last cgi vid a predator, a dreadnought and a whole tactical squad lose to like 10 orks. Lame.
Can't stand that stutter, must be my computer. Looks cool though
Man, that warpspider part was sweet.
I'd have to go with the Chaos theory though. Tyranids would be sweet but that looked like a stylized warp storm from the first DOW to me.
Plus, Chaos vs Marines are another one of the staples of the franchise, I doubt they'd really leave them out.
I would gladly fork over reasonable sums of cash for a feature length 40k film of that quality. Doesn't have to be in theaters (though that would be awesomely insane on IMAX), direct to DVD is fine. A series available on DVD would be spectacular as well. Probably not going to happen, but at least we'll have what's shaping up to be a great game as a consolation prize.
Crazy awesome, havnt played since necrons came to the DOW universe.
But if its Nids, then im ALL IN!
Who else chould it be?deamons are covered in chaos, necrons are there, orks aswell.
All the major races except tyranid are in the game, even g**knights.
Damn! Dreadnought FTW!
"I've come to destroy you!"
Awesomesauce!
That Warp Spider was sooooo cool!
Yeah! Looks great! At least they made the Astartes real big and bulky like they should be.
Great moves and fonrtunately the Dread didn't blow up by some custom mines. Great Trailer, though the music could be more intense.
Can't wait to see more.
yep, it's nids
Yes, yes, this game looks so sweet, may even take the RTS of the year again when released. Especialy if the game play graphics are going to be close to the video ( usually they never are, but common, its about time a game producer throws us a bone ).
Don't know what you're all moaning about from the first DOW trailer- the Dreadnought got ganked by, wait for it, a Tankbusta. Oh my, an anti-armour specialist with anti-armour Tankbusta Bomms took out the armoured vehicle in close combat! Who'd have guessed! Orks are natural close combat winners, anyway.If you let them get that close then you're screwed.
The best part was the Dreadnought grabbing that dude and lighting him up like a cigarette.
I hope to god that bit at the end means Tyranids. That would be so rad.
its not nids, Orks are the horde army style for the game, my money is on Chaos because of the shape of the clouds and why would the eldar be there if it wasn't a warp storm, why would they want to stop nids, they really don't care unless it has to do with them, and the only 2 races they care to destroy or stop with my experience is Necrons and Chaos
:S
It's clearly Tyranids, all the pieces of art GW has ever produced of hive fleets look identical to that.
I'd be shocked if it weren't Tyranids, and not due to whatever the video is hinting at in the final shot. With each of the three expansions for the previous game, 'Nids were requested, and each time shot down as being impossible within the current engine. It would be a strong statement about the strength of their new engine if they produced this oft-requested race in the starting lineup.
Also, I don't recall the intended release date for DoW II vs. Starcraft 2, but in marketing and gameplay terms, I think they would want to offer up the 'Nids as an alternate to the Zerg...
I think the close combat was rather unrealistic, the wounds the Space Marines succumbed to were rather "Boo-Boo´s".
Don´t get me wrong, I am well aware that Banshees and a Warp Spider Exarch would most likely wipe out a whole Tactical Squad, but the video gave the impression that a Marine would die if you stabbed him in the abdomen with a powersword, but
he´s more likely to part-digest it an spew it back at you.
my point is, the eldar should have cut the marines to tiny pieces, and the marines the eldar in half...(possibly a bit to bloody)
also the farseer was felled by a mere SCRATCH.
Still it beats all the other intros of the dow series though:
dow- SMs charging ORKS they got OUTGUNNED; very codex-astartes-like^^
dork crusade- TWO SMs charging a MONOLITH; I know SMs are brave but THAT....
Soulstorm- not as bad as the other but the tau rifle-pulses seem like drops of gatorade as they ricochet of the canoness´s armor
To summarize: the fight isn´t realistic enough to me(I know it´s fiction^^) but is still pretty awsome.
As to why the eldar would get involved with Tyranids, maybe they lured them there, who can say which wicked Webs of Warp the Wich was weaving?
PS: Am i to tired already or do the heads and helmets of the marines look way to small???
OMG!!!
thats an awsome trailer esspecially when the dread ambusshes those howling banshees.
"i have come to destroy you." classic dreadnought talk.
i think its chaos at the end , because those clouds look like a warpstorm to me.
also they wouldn't leave chaos out of any DOW game.
Orks were already shown in screenshots for DoWII released weeks ago, so Orks are a definite possiblity. Then again, they may have been hinting at a fourth army yet to be revealed...
Nids. Definitely.
I'm fairly confident it's Tyranids. That looked like the tendrils of a hive fleet to me.
I think this game looks amazing. I've never gotten into DoW too much, but if the game is even as close to being as cool as that trailer, I'll at the very least buy it.
And to the person who said they'd pay for a 40K movie, well, I'd be in line right behind you. My friends and I have talked about that for years.
I vote that she was referring to chaos. I love how back and forth the fight was, like you couldn't be 100% sure who would be left standing.
My money is on Nids for sure. Not just by what the cloud looks like but what the Warlock says to the Marine... "you already lost before you began..." that world is lost cuz there are tyranids coming... cant really stop that.
It is probebly an Imperial planet with orks already there... Eldar come to shut warp gates or grap some anchient artifact.
~kings
Dreadnought FTW! The video's rather dark, but did he bust out of the ground!? If so there's a Siege Dread datasheet I want!
I liked that fight, the Eldar were tough and strong in their sort of fighting and the Space Marine's were huge and tough.
That cloud did look pretty Niddly or Orks with bad exhaust on their Rokks.
And RE the first DOW opening cinematic, there's one of those 'motivational poster' images around with a shot of that and the caption "Leave cover with a heavy weapons team to run up a hill to engage orks in hand to hand... Who the hell made this guy sgt?'
Oh yeah, that's what I call a proper intro!
As for paying loads of money to see a 40K movie: count me in on that as well, BUT there is one other movie I would like to see even more!
A film adaption of the very first Battletech novels (grey death and warrior trilogies) *drool*
"The best part was the Dreadnought grabbing that dude and lighting him up like a cigarette."
I laughed like I was a four year old watching the doddlebops. I haven't been that elated in months. I think I'll watch that again.
I think the end is a warp storm full of squats...
@ Anon 4:37:
Oh, I don't know...maybe it was a maiden world that the Eldar were trying to protect...they seem to care a lot about those things, or even the simple possibility that they were trying to shut down a warp gate before the 'nids arrive, or maybe there were artifacts that they wanted to claim before the 'nids got there because once they are there you can't go back (at least not without a lot of dying).There are countless other reasons why eldar would fight the great devourer.I'm thinking it's 'nids.
@ seemyinnergeek:
Chaos Squats! That would so ROCK!
Hey, as long as I can see JUST ONCE nids go ahead and do something remotely related to instinctual behavior when the local nods dies I'll be happy. Even if it's in a video game.
PS- it's never happened in 4th or 5th edition on the table. EVER.
I'd be willing to bet the guys at the end are Tyranids, although it could also be Chaos, it does look pretty Warp-ey.
That said, the trailer was excellent, I liked the high body count and watching the pointy-eared gits get it in the end is always worth watching, although I'd have preferred to see a massive IG firestorm however :D
well wasn't that a hive ship at the end? i.e. a big lump of carinfex eggs?
that looked amazing!
i peed a little!
Best part was the Eldar Pathfinder turning on his scope with the Jame Gumm night vision sound effect... My Eldar runes are a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure the glyphs on his scope said, "Are you about a size 14?"
No worries there is gonna B tyranids in DOW dat was there hive fleet ^%$& yeah!!!
and no it is not chaos trust me got all da codexes 2 the armys that was definenlty TYRANIDS!!!!!
I FORGOT 2 TELL TALL THERE IS A SECOND VIDEO ON THE SAME SITE OF DOW GO 2 DA BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN WHERE IT SHOWS THE THE OTHER VIDEOS, ITS IN THERE ;D
Looks like a warp storm to me - Id like Tyranids but not holding my breath
Eldar would and have been involved with tyranids before. This case could simply be them defending a maiden world from the tyranid threat. My money is on it being tyranids.
Awesome... AWESOME!
Definately is a ingame cutscene!
UBER COOL ...
Hope that will be IG in,
Now... its Eldar, Orks and SM, and that sky... looks like Chaos Warp...
OMG same default races as Default DoW?
ZERG!
It will be Tyranids.
Very sweet trailer!!!!
Yep. Definetely Tyranids. I've read the PC Gamer magazines and it mentions Tyranids in the new Dawn of War. However, I'm still wondering how you can command the Tyranids. Probably Hive Mind, but how will the Tyranids respond?
awesome.. wow.. equal to the first DOW opening cutscene, which is classic... i think nids would be fantastic and hope there are move video scenes like this throughout the game....
It will be Tyranids and the other race will be Daemons.
How come whenever i see an eldar farseer being killed, or read a story about it I always think "Take that you cocky son of a bitch!".
What you guys must remember is that a space marine is a champion warrior, created to fight blah blah blah. but still, shooting it with a gun that shoots out a monofilament mesh that cuts people to pieces and then slicing through armour will pretty much slaughter anyone.
plus, anyone yell the phrase "BOOM headshot!!" when that marine was sniped?
That...was...fucking...AWESOME.
U idiots thats not chaos it is Tyranids (tendrils of a hive fleet) get it through yo thick skullz! :D
every 1 who plays DOW get the new tyranid mod 2 show u how they work, and the firestorm over krunus mod bloth 4 dark crusade
Chaos would have come on ships even nurgles death guard and daemons r summoned they dont float through space, definently tyranids
if u look closely the marine was hit in the shoulder not the head
If you watch the Developer interview on Game spot, one of the producers states that "we are listening to the fans". And I recollect everyone on relicnews/forums has been crying for Tyrnids since winter assault. Who the hell cries for chaos when they are going to be in the game now or eventually. Its nids shut up and love the buggy goodness
exactly thank u
OH my god...oh my god...oh my god......
100% its nids.
they're tendrils from a hive fleet.
as for the people moaning that 'they will never leave chaos/orks out of the game so it has to be them'; chaos and orks are already confirmed as in DOWII, if the 'mystery' was a chaos warpstorm or an ork horde, it wouldn't be much of a mystery would it?
All, I know is i now have to change my shorts.
LOL
Guys. You do realize that this will be a squad based game with important hero characters, right? How on earth does that make sense with Nids?
Well that was a big dose of "Pure Win" (tm).
My money is on the Devourer.
I had to go and buy Warp Spiders on my lunch break..... curse you THQ curseyou GW
No question it's Nids. I'm amazed anyone would even think it could be Orkz, if it were, it would have been much sillier, not eerie and mysterious.
The Warp Spider was freaken cool!
But I think someone there must love dreadnoughts (and who doesn't), because once again its one bad mama jama. I just gota say OUCH!
Its the Squats!
Very Sweet! Anyone watch the other trailer with the war boss and Thunder Hammer wielding marine? Not as much "OMG 'Nids!" action but still nice to look at. :p
Wow, a 60 odd post on whether or not its tyranids :P
Who cares? It just looks cool! (oh and BTW Eldar will always fight the 'nids, remember Iyanden was virtually destroyed by them).
The only clever point in this discussion so far is the reminder that this will be a squad/hero based game, which to me says, the players aren't getting any control of the swarming 'nids at all. They are the computer controlled nasties.
My only gripe is that its Blood Ravens again. I'm not a Blood Angels fan, but boy that would have had more depth.
Yeah its Squats alright... those eerie clouds were the ectoplasmic realisation of beardy gamers desire given form in the warp.
We are witnessing the birth of... SQUAATNESH
loool
SQUAATNESH is good ^^
@Nurglespuss
" Who cares? It just looks cool! (oh and BTW Eldar will always fight the 'nids, remember Iyanden was virtually destroyed by them)."
Eldar choose to fight based on their visions of the future, not on revenge. One day they fight them the other day they let them be.
Also the Farseer dindn´t look to be Iyanden, so no: Oh no, they killed Eldar-kenny, YOU BASTARDS!!!
"The only clever point in this discussion so far is the reminder that this will be a squad/hero based game, which to me says, the players aren't getting any control of the swarming 'nids at all. They are the computer controlled nasties."
My thought exactly, but the developers prided themselves with the claim that Orks and Space Marines will be played very differently, so maybe they are trying trying to take it to the next level with Tyranids.
"My only gripe is that its Blood Ravens again. I'm not a Blood Angels fan, but boy that would have had more depth."
That is so very true!!! There´s supposed to be a thousand chapters, but all you encountered in the last 10 years was Blood Ravens and Ultramarines.
A little variation now and then like Space Wolves or Iron Hands would be nice.
think u're getting blood ravens and blood angels confused there...?
blood ravens are not a successor to BA and I would have thought that having Blood Ravens starring in the game rather than the typical chapters made the universe a little more diverse.
It's the opening cinematic. The game won't look anything like that, nor will there be any more footage of that quality in the entire game. The movie was developed by a third party company.
Orks were unveiled MONTHS ago, along with the game itself.
Chaos has never been mentioned to be in the game. The big news with this video was the fact that the third race was unveiled at E3, that being Eldar. You can't confirm anything beyond this information.
I'm going to hope that it's Tyranids, the 'tendril' theme of the phenomena is quite striking, but I think it could just as easily be Chaos.
@ anonymous
think u're getting blood ravens and blood angels confused there...?
No I'm not getting them confused. GW may remain ambiguous about the Primarch of the founding chater, that preceded the Blood Ravens. But for me it doesn't matter. They look like Blood Angels. SO why not go with the stronger character and history? How cool would a communique from Dante or Mephiston be? I'm an Imperial Fists/Death Guard fan myself.
yep its the squats they told me in my sleep.
any money Relic will do what they did with necrons for the nids, they wont be a playable race, but they'll make an appearance right at the end of the game.
as for the trailer, AWESOMESAUCE i found a few problems with it tho, but at the end of the day, WH40K is a fiction, so who cares if Relic have alittle artistic licence with it.
anyway, i can tell you right now; I'll be buying a copy when it comes out, on the day it comes out for that matter, its just a shame it will be a Direct X10 game, and therefore Vista T_T suffice to say if my computer could cry, it would be right now. damn you vista and your DirectX 10 engine! damn you all to hell!
As for the Eldar, it would appear that the farseer was putting up a huge psychic beacon at the beginning, quite possibly to call the hive fleet to that world.
It fits the fluff, the Eldar are well know for steering Ork or Tyranid invasions at Imperial worlds to deflect them from their own craftworlds.
Also notice that the "tendrils" at the end have a slight flowing motion to them toward the surface of the planet, rather like pouring streams of mycetic spores making planet fall, rather than drop pods or similar making entry.
@anon
Eldar pulling Tyranids towards the planet? Sounds abit too complex for what Relic's understanding of the fluff insofar as they've shown us, but that would be a perfect reason for my last doubts about 'Nids. :)
Totally Tyranids. It's the phase one of their invasion- releasing spores into the atmosphere to encourage plant growth.
DOW2 FTWWW
Coolest parts of that video:
- When the Spider Exarch does his acrobatics into combat
- When the Dreadnought toasts an enemy
- BEST MOMENT was when the Space Marine yells, "take cover!" and the Marines all run away like little kids running away from a scary clown. It reminded me of the "run away, run away!" moments in Monty Python And The Holy Grail. "Emperor's Finest" or "Emperor's Fastest at running away", you decide. Hilarious!
Nidz/Zergs
Eldar/Protoss
Marines/Marines
Hmm. I wonder if there is any other game coming out soon with this pattern?
The trailer was okay, but still not as good as the first one. The Eldar looked more silly than cool and the marines were portrayed with keystone cop-like incompetance.
Still, I have yet to be dissapointed by the THQ/Relic team. If only they would make Homeworld 3 then life would be complete!
My friend that does the facial animation for the DoW shit has confirmed to me that its bugs.
Movie is great... still not sure if I'll pickup the game or not.
HOLY CRUDD ON A STICK.....thats the best thing ive ever seen.....
now DOW2 is gonna be great and all but it just gets overshadowed by one question
WHY THE HELL HAVENT GW COMMISSIONED A FULL FEATURE CGI FILM......?
CMON!! I MEAN, GW PULL YOUR HEAD OUT MAKE ONE ALREADY, MAYBE OUR BELOVED COMPANY WOULD GET A MORE MAINSTREAM MARKET.....
AAAARRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*A.R. TURNS AWAY WITH FURY AND DISGUST*
Forget about Nyds !!!
As Relic says on some interviews for the E3 event, the actual races are:
- Space Marines
- Orks
- Eldars
- and.... CHAOS.
Compared to the first DOW trailer, this is a pretty big letdown.
Should have known since the DOW II teaser was so dark, you didn't know if they were fighting a Chaos Lord, some sort of Tyranid, or what ended up to be a Warboss.
ZOATS!!!!
How do people keep complaining its dark? It must be your video cards/monitors as it runs and looks great on my screen, even at work, not dark at all, everything is quite vivid.
As for the Nids? yeah i question how anyone would even think its not them, as Relic has said repeatedly they were waiting for DOW II to release the Nids as a playable race.
And the scene at the end is very much reminiscent of the descriptions of how a 'Nid fleet starts its conquest of a world...check out the 5th ed rulebook :)
""BrassScorpion said...
- BEST MOMENT was when the Space Marine yells, "take cover!" and the Marines all run away like little kids running away from a scary clown. It reminded me of the "run away, run away!" moments in Monty Python And The Holy Grail. "Emperor's Finest" or "Emperor's Fastest at running away", you decide. Hilarious!""
Actually, it would take enourmously well trained personnel to pull off that manuever.
90% of trained combat troops in an ambush will just
a) stand there
b) drop to the ground
c) clump together (humans are social creatures and seek safety in numbers)
Having the trained reflexes to execute a "scatter and fight" maneuver like that is what makes a space marine a space marine.
No normal military uses that type of reaction because it is simply to difficult to control, but it is the ideal way to clear a kill zone in an ambush. remember, your enemy is made up of individuals, each of which is trying to fire his weapon at a singe target. when everyone scatters, they are busy trying to track their target thru the confusion.
That was probably the single best ambush reaction I have ever seen.
"As for the Eldar, it would appear that the farseer was putting up a huge psychic beacon at the beginning, quite possibly to call the hive fleet to that world."
You got it all wrong...have you never seen anyone hail a cab before? Farseer was just trying to get her folks back to the craftworld. ;)
Can't wait to try this game out.
I think they will release 3 races Tyranids, Dark Eldar, and Squats.
The look of almost fear in the Wich's eyes wouldn't be there if nids just entered the atmosphere. She's about to die why would she care? Unless her forces are about to be killed by their dark cousins because she was signaling for reinforcements.
The nids have been asked for so often it would be ridiculous not to add them. Especially to add a race that one wouldn't assume in a squad game and so we can have a Starship Troopers moment with the imperial guard ^^
I heard a rumor about Squats coming with 5th and while alot of rumors like that can be easily dismissed, I think it would really be cool to reintroduce them in a pc game.
Though I would like to see daemonettes charging the field with bloodletters to rip apart the Space Marines while Tau Pathfinders shoot beacons for a flanking fire warrior squad (yes I am hoping for 3 faction battles ^^). I feel that the Chaos Daemons, sadly, wont be included... for now ^^
wtf is a squat, ive seen a painted model of 1 but what is it a dwarf marine?!?
That was tendrils of a hive fleet no question. Why would they leave chaos out? Why indeed. Why does including 'nids mean they are leaving chaos out. OMG! necrons aren't in the trailer...does that mean they're out?
no.
Chaos-wise. They're not gonna make the whole freakin story about chaos for DoWII seeing as the others have been pretty chaos heavy as it is. Something new is needed...something that sends in fleets in tendril shapes into a start system, and sends waves upon waves of spores into the atmosphere of a planet before landfall...
now see what that is?
i'm guessing either a.) nids seeing as relic said they'd be in DOW 2 or B.) it's chaos deamons seeing as GW pretty much just relised them with their own codex so why not market them? just my thoughts
My bet- Chaos. What could eldar sorcery really do against the hive fleet. And if it was nids- there would be spores not cloads.
But DOW II is being created since the old engine couldn't handle nids.
those r clouds of spores stupid, + chaos does not float through space and in DOW SS the warpstorm was pink and looked like a storm.
and the eldar craftworld Iyanden fought the hive fleet behemoth, and in the new 5th edition rulebook it shows a space map with 3 or 4 hive fleets which they all look like the 1 in the movie
GET DA TYRANID MOD 045 ITS COOL
I have lost count as to how many times i've seen this movie. But here are some things I wish to clear up.
This must be tyranids because as stated before it's the only race the DOW team didn't cover. Also warp storms are a sort of evil rainbowy color not flesh or brown colored. Also, warp storms do not branch out like that they usually just cover the planet in a dense sky of warp clouds as opposed to the tyranid invasion and how the swarm branches out.
About the Eldar, I believe they were trying to PREVENT the tyranids from coming as the world look like an eldar exodite world to me. the space marine killing the farseer resulted in her failed attempt.
That's my 2 cents
I've been playing Eldar all this while and watching this video just makes me look at it with a renew sense of awe!
Just too awesome! Can't wait for the release.
I debated with my guys in the community and we are almost definitely sure those are NIDs!
My 7000 pt eldar army is not gonna stop, gonna go out and by meself another box of spiders or banshees...:P
I'd love to see Dawn of War 2 start with all of the armies, rather than a small selection with expansion packs adding more later.
I got nuthin... just wanted to be the 100th poster.
Was a cool clip though Once every 2 years or so a game comes along that makes it work upgrading my PC, this looks like it will be that reason (especially since Fallout 3 has been refused classification (BANNED) in Australia)
If that ain't nids i'll hang myself. I can't wait 'till the game is out now !
If u look at the clouds and the moon it looks like a soulless eye, yust like 'nids have according to GW. (BTW i hope this was the last news bout DOW, after all Warhammer is better)
This vid is yet another proof that bolt pistols always own !!! xD
But is it me, or is the sergant trying to pulk its ear when he uses his vox ?
Im thinkin tyranids...if you looka the shape in the clouds carefully it looks like a giant squid
hive fleet kraken maybe?
Awesome vid, the thing is probably tyranids. Did you see that time when the ranger shoots the marine in the shoulder and gets a face full of bolts
The red clouds form a skull out of the tendrils, and the moon on the right is an eye of the skull, and the second moon, or whatever, on the left is either a nostril or the other eye.
MOst def has to be nids. If it isn't, I wont buy the game if it is an exact clone of DoW. Just like I wont buy SC2 as it is just a clone of SC.
That game aien't going to be a clone of DOW 1. Instead of Apocalypse-size armies (like in the 1) you'll be given command of a handful of troops only, a bit like in Companies of Heroes. Someone pointed it out earlier.
I think the coolest part was the Banshee's Howl as they assault. Makes me shiver. Imagine getting the will to fight as you hear that!
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