RUMOR: 40K 8th Edition – The Plot Thickens!

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The rumor mill is stirring things up yet again with more Warhammer 40K 8th edition info – Prepare your salt shakers!

Sad Panda is back again with more 40K 8th rumors – this time he’s clarifying the timeframe of when 8th will be released:

via Sad Panda

There is a new edition of 40K in the works.

It’s also correct that GW doesn’t bother re-doing old Codex books, basically since Tau, as they consider 7th a lame duck rule set (there will still be rules for new miniatures, incl. campaigns, Codex Deathwatch, etc..).

Just that the timeline is off and the new edition further away … at least 2017 … according to my information (which has been good so far, but a new edition of 40K is the most secretive topic you could find in GW).

This actually corresponds with what he dropped previously. This helps to further reinforce the idea that the conflicting rumors may have been in reference to a different product or product line (like Battle of Vedros). Still, we won’t know for sure who’s right and who’s wrong until the Fall. What we do know is that 8th is a “thing” that is being worked on, we’re just not sure of the “when” this is happening.

Salt-2010Use salt.

Previous Rumors:

via Sad Panda

“New edition won’t arrive in 2016.

But they will (and kinda already do) move the story forward.”

BoLS has been informed by Mikhael the following:

Games Workshop will release a new streamlined 40k Edition in Autumn.

ytook (DISQUS) says: 5-16-2016

Expect 40k to have a shake up later in the year!
“It won’t be as drastic as Warhammer, but it will be quite a change.”
More stream lined and easier to pick…’and’I was talking to Ally Morrison and Andy Dunn (They were near the entrance) I know Andy from a while back and during our chat 40k came up…
Well, about how cumbersome it’s become.
Any way.
He said the quote above….
This one just keeps getting weirder. Have at it folks!
  • Shiwan8

    Well…as long as my codices will not be yet again lab rats for eldar, tau and marines to get more broken stuff.

    • ZeeLobby

      I’m patiently waiting to see the outcome. Another edition of Eldar wiping tables clean and I think I’m done with GW.

      • blackbloodshaman

        Why wait, there are many better cheaper games right now

        • ZeeLobby

          Oh don’t worry. I already play them. I’ve just always had a soft spot for Warhammer (both fantasy and 40K), as it’s what got me into the hobby. I still remember the Games Days where you could actually sign up to play games, and the fun surrounding that. So I’ll always be watching to see if some of that returns to GW. it’ll forever be a burden on my soul! haha.

          • Damian Reid

            Heh, I finally gave up and sold everything when 6.1+majiks hit. Yet, I still follow 40k news in the hope it becomes something I like again.

        • Shiwan8

          I’ve checked. If you care about the setting at all there really is not.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah, I have to say, I’m finally getting into WMH, and I’ve read some of the Wrath of Kings background and it’s kind of cool. But nothing replaces the sheer magnitude of history and stories behind the Warhammer universes (well minus AoS).

          • wibbling

            Age of Sigmar requires more time to invest in the story – if you make the time and create your own worlds you’ll find a very rich background. You just have to put the effort in.

          • ZeeLobby

            Er… I had a lot of fun investing in Fantasy, and had a huge background to fall back on if I ever wanted to play against someone who didn’t know who the Duke of Etterland was. I don’t see how AoS provides any additional outlet for that, unless you’ve always desired swimming vertically up waterfalls of tears into the pools of lava, and fight across the bridge of bones over the channel of poo.

          • Astmeister

            You Sir, are the real King! 😀

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha, I try *bow*. I just dislike when people use false arguments for something. Like how formations let people play the “fluffy” lists they’ve dreamed of. I mean unbound already let you do that… “Yeah, but now I can win, which is secretly what I wanted”. Oh…. OK.

            But honestly, its the ridiculousness of the AoS environment which makes it hard to take anything seriously. The Duke of Etterland needed his taxes damnit! And if he had to kill the beastmen attacking his tax collectors on the road, then so be it!

          • RS TROUT

            My lord you have my lance to drive these vile beastmen out of our lands and into the wilderness from which they came. Fully agreeing with everything you’ve been saying. I hate AoS personally but totally agree with you.

          • Aezeal

            I must admit that aos is very ‘high’ fantasy.
            The stories in the setting aren’t worse than most old fantasy stories though but still lacking a top not ch series. If the geography is killing your immersion it might be hard to get into the books though

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean it’s just not connectable at all to us as humans. I mean the reason why Mythology was such a great font of stories and will continue to be portrayed down through the ages is because stuff happened to everyday people like you and me. It’s hard to care when everything is so above us. I’d consider Diablo to be high fantasy. A lot of craziness going on there, but your character is still a simple conjurer who trains like never before!

          • WellSpokenMan

            If your interests are limited to grimdark, then yes there really isn’t like 40k. GW invented the genre (invented might be a strong word for “let’s do fantasy in space”) There’s no reason for anybody else to make a 40k style game. If you have other interests, there are games with all kinds of different settings. I do understand that there are people who want nothing to do with other genres though.

          • Shiwan8

            I just don’t find other settings interesting enough to invest in them for that reason and rules wise other games are even more biased against the things I want to play that it’s not worth it.

          • WellSpokenMan

            Nothing wrong with that. My daughter refuses to read anything but fantasy books, and my sister in law won’t eat any protein but chicken. That doesn’t make them a bad person. You can’t change what you like.

          • Shiwan8

            That sounds pretty damn accurate.

          • blackbloodshaman

            check more

          • Shiwan8

            Name one. One that is not infinity, historical, malifaux, spartan games stuff, any fantasy based movement tray “strategy”, warmahordes, something that GW does nolonger support, This is Not a Test, starwars-based, startrek-based, one of those squad sized modern skirmish games or their scifi spin offs or something that is close to previously mentioned.

          • blackbloodshaman

            ok Black Powder. But WHY NOT those games? many of them ARE better and cheaper and some have better settings

          • Shiwan8

            Thats historical. What’s a better setting is a matter of taste. To me 40k/30k is way better than anything else out there as a setting. “Cheaper” is not an issue to me (I have already everything I need thanks to starting when Rogue Trader was cool). The only problem I have with GW is the lack of balance. I’m not willing to trade better rules in just plain boring games to bad balance situation that can be handled by reasonable social skills.

          • blackbloodshaman

            So what you really mean isn’t that there are no better cheaper games, its that you only like 40K’s background, and so that is all you are willing to play. Fair enough.

          • Shiwan8

            You are wrong. Ok setting with good rules and good variety of playstyles would be enough assuming it is not based on some idiocy like moving square shaped platforms representing units.

          • blackbloodshaman

            And yet no other game even has an ok setting, except 40k? Aight

          • Shiwan8

            Ones I’ve come across only infinity and malifaux have an ok setting. Both have horrible rules though.

          • Richard Mitchell

            Dark Age is pretty sci fi and grim with its Dune meets Foundation flair.

          • Shiwan8

            Ok.

        • Shadowlord

          Obviously not time consuming games seeing you are here yet again.

          • ZeeLobby

            You’re right, I don’t want to play a game that consumes all my time. That’s part of the reason those games are great.

          • blackbloodshaman

            I get it now, when GW writes stories that hold up pain, suffering and sacrifice as virtues, they are conditioning people to play their games

          • ZeeLobby

            Hahaha. Exactly! +1

          • WellSpokenMan

            Friendly fire! You “counter” trolls need to get your transponders synced.

          • blackbloodshaman

            Lol

      • wibbling

        I appreciate it is difficult to adapt to each new edition and alter you gameplay to suit changed opponents, but it’s a measure of a gamer that they can.

        • ZeeLobby

          Oh, in a solid game with consistent rules and balanced armies, no doubt. Too bad 40K is no such game :/, but I agree with you.

      • Heinz Fiction

        Don’t worry. I bet for the first time in history GW will get balance right. /sarcasm

  • Either way works for me; I haven’t played a single game of 7th, its past me by in a blur of nappies and sleepless nights. Maybe a new big, thick rulebook is what I need! :D;)

    • Shiwan8

      Grats. You missed nothing that Taudar did not already show us.

    • blackbloodshaman

      I played exactly 1, and couldn’t wait for it to be over.

      • nurglitch

        I’ve enjoyed it more and more each game. Of course I could also say that about the new editions. So I’m naturally pretty excited to hear about an 8th edition.

      • wibbling

        You’ve only played one game? That’s really quite sad considering this is your hobby. Perhaps Bols could do a series on building and encouraging a gaming group?

  • Dave Scammell

    That does explain the lack of proper codex releases… Here’s hoping, if any of this is true, that they’ll stay as valid as they can if/when the transition comes.
    2017 though? That’s a long time to go without a new codex…

    • ZeeLobby

      Well, considering the rumors of pumping AoS throughout 2016, it’s not that shocking. I’m curious as to how they’re going to explain their large drop in sales though… It does make sense considering they just released a flier expansion. It did seem a little too soon at first.

  • rtheom

    Not gonna count on it, but perhaps they stopped working on codices and moved to campaigns and supplements because they actually are intending to redo and rerelease both the rulebook and all of the codices at once? It would make sense. There’s no reason to update individual armies right now if they know they’re all getting a facelift with 8th…

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      It will also make it so people don’t feel like they wasted money on a codex that is immediately invalidated by a new edition.

      • ZeeLobby

        Very true. I really thought fall would be too soon.

      • rtheom

        Good point and very likely!

  • GiftoftheMagi

    The massive rules change from 2nd to 3rd Edition was one of the best things to happen to Warhammer 40,000. They took a confusing mess of rules, edits, changes and codexes and turned them into a coherent whole for new players and old.

    Right now, we have the same problem. WAY too many rules, supplements, changes, datasheets, exclusives, combinations to track. It’s just too damned hard to keep up. We need a roll back and clean up like 3rd Edition.

    But in no way, shape or form do we need an Age Of 40K. That cut too close to the bone and alienated far too many of the remaining players, and is still regarded by many as a half-finished trainwreak of a game (and yes I have played it and yes I agree). While it is finally starting to come together into something resembling a true wargame again, it’s still an overpriced beer-and-pretzels game. Doing THAT to 40K risks losing about 80% of their market at least on a chance. A very stupid chance.

    I suspect that something like 3rd, with a statline and clean-up like what they use it AoS but keeping points and familiar staples, is the route they will go.

    • ZeeLobby

      I’m praying for a similar 2nd to 3rd rewrite. My fear is that they’ve spent the last 2 editions injecting more and more rules which have resulted in more and more purchases. To simplify I almost feel like a pruning is mandatory. I’m just not sure GW has the balls to do it. They did it/are doing it to WFB, but 40K has always been their golden goose.

      • Charon

        Really? 3rd? The epitome of a bland snoozefest where everything does basically the same?
        I like tons of special rules. I want my Plaguemarines, Wraithguard and Grots to be tough. But not the same kind of tough.

        • ZeeLobby

          Don’t get me wrong. I would love a happy medium. The thing is they would have to playtest to get there. If they want crazy fun rules, and everything to be unique, then they have to put the work in to make it work. Do you trust GW to do that? They’ve already seemed to throw the hat in with the AoS ruleset.

          • WellSpokenMan

            As much as it goes against my cynical nature to be optimistic, GW has shown a number of positive signs recently. It’s also worth noting that the success of other systems gives GW plenty of source material to mine for ideas. I’m sure they also learned quite a bit from AoS given the recent changes they are making to that system. Whatever they do, they will make a lot of people unhappy. There’s a chance though that, after the dust settles, a much better product will emerge.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah, it’s hard to fight my pessimistic urges towards GW, but I’ll continue to follow, and hope for the best!

        • GiftoftheMagi

          Yes 3rd Ed did remove a huge amount of items that made each army unique. But it also took a cumbersome, confusing and contradictory rule system and cleaned it up into the basis the game has used since then. Every edition since 3rd had only built upon the foundation 3rd created. However we are at the point were we have hundreds of units, characters, formations, unique rulesets and possible combinations that it is bogging down the game and making it near-impossible for new players to get into without help.

          It needs to be cleaned up quite a bit. We don’t have to eliminate everything like last time, but we could make things easier to run and understand.

          • Charon

            The thing is there i a simple trick: Dont buy everything at once. It is perfectly fine to play the BRB + Codex.
            Thats how it works in nearly every other game with multiple expansions no matter if it is D&D or Descent. You buy the core rules, play the core rules and expand your game. Why does everyone think that 40k is the big exception where you have to know everything including the opponents army?
            And even if you reset to 3rd. there is still FW with different rules.

      • wibbling

        Why would they go backward to that?

        • ZeeLobby

          Why would they go forward to 7th?

          • Charon

            Probably because 7th is a lot better and more fun than 3rd.

          • Heinz Fiction

            I prefer 3rd edition over 7th any day of the week. My favourite is 4th though…

          • ZeeLobby

            Contrary to your personal opinion, a lot of people enjoyed 3rd much more than 7th. When 3rd was out GW’s sales were increasing, through 6th and 7th there’s been a steady decline. Ignoring that, it appears even GW recognizes 7th has gotten cumbersome, and as far as gameplay goes, it’s the most imbalanced it’s ever been. Yeah… sounds amazing!

          • Charon

            That is a way of misinterpreting numbers but well.
            Even if they had AoSed 2nd edition the number would have risen. Why? Because the game got more popular, People needed bigger armies. For a 1500 points battle in 2nd you could fiels 30 marines, 2 tanks and call it a day. In 3rd? Not so much. Numbers are not declining since 6th and 7th but way before when GW stopped all communication and did not care about their customers anymore. THAT is a big reason of decline.
            People WANT to play the game but the company treats them like collectors. THAT is why PLAYERS leave.
            And 7th is not the most imbalanced edition we had. The top codices are doing well against each other. So do the bottom codices. The problem was the switch in design wich you had in all editions.
            3rd edition Bloodangel rhino rush? Totally balanced? IG Leafblower so interactive and fun to play against. How about you put down your pink glasses?

          • ZeeLobby

            LoL. Ok. One or two builds of the top codecies do well against each other. There’s no internal balamce. And no external balance. And you know what, I’ve beat BA rhino rush with a bad list against a bad player. I also beat leaf blower. Hell that was a one and done list. Once you knew how to play it, it was manageable. Now tell me how orks, CSM, de, IG, Tyranids etc. beat competitive Eldar. This is quite honestly the worse balance we’ve ever had. And I played 6th and 7th up until the wave-serpent “nerfs” of the Eldar update. Lol. If anything shows how little GW cared about game play, it was that.

            Sales are down. Drastic changes are coming in 8th. It’s quite obvious 7th has not been a good edition to anyone who looks. I’d rather look through my rose tinted glasses than be blind…

          • Charon

            The same like you. I have beaten a competitive Eldar list with CSM against a bad player. Thats about it.
            The same did go for 3rd, 4th, 5th,…
            horrible internal and external balance, invulnerable falcons. So please… keep your glasses but dont be too disappointed when 8th is not AoS but 7th with more stuff and a few tweaks.

          • ZeeLobby

            LoL. K. What was in your list?

          • Charon

            Nothin spectacular. The player is just not good.
            You can have all the scatterbikes and warpspiders in the universe if you use them completely wrong.
            But the fun thing is you build a strawmen here.
            I clamed the top codices and the bottom codices are balanced if they stay in their tier.
            You “countered” that argument by claiming you have beaten “rhino rush” against a bad player and now want me to do what? I already stated that top vs bottom is unfair. Change of design. Happens every edition. Even in 3rd. Remember 3rd edition CSM? The 6th edition codex is a wet dream compared to the 3rd edition atrocity. Balanced? Hell no. Not even by a long shot.

          • ZeeLobby

            So he tried assaulting you with scatbikes? I mean my player was bad as in didn’t play objectives. Not bad as in simple. Still curious what was in your list.

          • Charon

            Basically Maulers, Drakes and DP (Nurgle, one mace one brand).
            He had trouble using his movement correctly and gave no thought about any mission objective.
            The fun thing is the game was my Eldar collection against my CSM (he is a IG player) because he claimed everyone can easily win with eldar.
            But again. That is not a part of the discussion. Why are you death bent on it?

          • ZeeLobby

            Because 7th edition Eldar and BA rhino rush are not even comparable in power level or balance gap. I just think it’s funny. I mean Eldar use is a no brainier. Especially in competitive play. Max range, assault move out of sight or into cover, use a shield generator. Cast invisibility on wraithknight, use warp spiders similarly to scatbikes. It’s the one army I’ve seen skilled players pick up regardless of never playing Eldar and just trounce opponents with. There is practically no skill involved. The seldom losses are usually due to luck. Failing to get invisibility off. Poor rerollable invulns on a farseer. It’s easily the most forgivable army GW has ever put rules out for. It makes sense you own them tho. People who own Eldar seem to be the only ones who try to play it off, and even then half I meet begin the game with “I know it’s broken but….”. Heard this twice at the last Nova qualifier I went to.

          • Charon

            3rd edition rhino rush. That is first turn assault with the whole army. Without counterplay. 3rd edition also gave us the joy of invincible Eldar vehicles.
            So. Last time. What has the fact that CSM vs Eldar is uneven has any relevance to anything I previously stated and why (when I keep telling you that) you are still jumping up and down on this?

          • ZeeLobby

            Uh, I never jumped up and down on this. I was just gathering the magnitude of your victory, and if you won with that, then he must have assaulted you with his scatbikes.

            Beside that point, Eldar’s current power level has a lot to do with balance and the current state of the game. The fact that each top tier army has 1 top tier list, and those single top tier lists have an even chance at beating eachother doesn’t support balance at all.

            Oh well, this is pointless. I’ll come find you when GW completely rips what was built in 7th apart in 8th, just to say I told you so. When people actually come back to the game.

          • Charon

            Cant say I will miss you. Must be terrible to be forced to play a game for 4 editions that you actually dont like or understand.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha, the higher your horse, the farther the fall. I enjoyed 4/5th edition btw, and won 4/5 games the last tournament of 7th I attended. I just think it’s a total mess of a game, mechanically and balance wise, so I don’t find it very rewarding or interesting. But way to make brash assumptions to feel superior. LoL.

        • GiftoftheMagi

          In a way we already have been going backward, by reintroducing old concepts and rules over the last 4 editions.

    • wibbling

      Those players weren’t buying models so the setting needed a reboot and got it to a far better, simpler game that has got kit shifting again and brought players to the game.

      I don’t think Workshop are bothered about losing those players who weren’t spending money.

  • Brian Griffith

    How many times does Ytook have to say that it’s not his rumor but something he was quoting before the attribution gets fixed?

    • Gorsameth

      This is BoLS rumor reporting. accuracy is not even an afterthought.

  • Christie Bryden

    so, still no fix on chaos then to make a actualy good codex.

  • ZeeLobby

    Lame Duck. Sounds right for 6th/7th. Sorry everyone who defended it to the death, turns out even GW thinks it sucks…

    • georgelabour

      Yes, some guy on the internet said GW said a thing they might have been discussing on a lunch break during that one time some guy happened to be sitting near them.

      That’s one hundred percent admissible evidence that is!

      Or at least it is according to my friend’s cousin’s dad who works for Ninentendo and thus meets with GW all the time to discuss the games they send him.

      • ZeeLobby

        Here’s one!

        • georgelabour

          Pointing out absurdity via the second lowest form of humor is not a defense. It’s merely playful mockery.

          Usually of someone who’s far to quick quick to leap to any conclusions that confirms their narrow personal bias.

          • ZeeLobby

            I’m just casting a wide trollish net and seeing how many of you flock to your beloved’s defense ;D.

            Factually, GW sales are falling.

            40K has become a tangled mess and it looks like GW has plans to roll out a new edition, as 7th appears to have done little to eliminate the problems of 6th.

            Alternatively, 8th will simply build on top of 7th, which built on top of 6th, and profits will continue to slide. In which case I just feel bad for both supporting players and GW.

          • generic eric

            Do you suppose sales are falling because GW pushes a meta that people aren’t interested in playing? I’ll paint my Space Hulk units in Blood Angel red, but you can only have so many Blood Angels playing at your local game store.

            FWIW, GW needs to get a plan lined allows for Meta to evolve in a way they can respond to. 3D printing can’t get here too soon if you ask me.

          • ZeeLobby

            Honestly. I think they just underestimate the number of people who actually play their games (either willfully or ignorantly). They’ve seemed to operate under the delusion that rules don’t matter. That they can push out any drivel and it won’t effect their sales. That playtesting and gathering community feedback are antiquated things.

            The new CEO is making good strides towards rectifying this. The problem is that while they let these things slide, alternative games have been released by competitors. The question will be can they revise things enough to draw new players in at a faster rate, or draw old players back.

            I’ll have to wait and see before I decide, but nothing they’ve done since 5th edition has convinced me that they know what they’re doing. They seem to be trying to duplicate what their competitors have done while they lazed around.

            In the end I think meta is only a small fraction of it. You keep building up certain armies (SMs, Eldar, etc.) and ignoring others (DE, Orks, CSM, etc.) and eventually you only have a 3/4 faction game, and competitors have a lot more to offer.

            Originally GW as a game company striving for profits, but ran by gamers ( I knew people who worked during this era for them). The game was important to them. This transitioned, quite abruptly, to a game company striving for profits regardless of gameplay. So we’ll see if they can swing it back.

          • wibbling

            Profits aren’t ‘sliding’ though. They’re going up. dislike the company all you wish, but it makes more in profit in 6 months than it’s next nearest competitor does in revenue in a year.

          • ZeeLobby

            Alright, we’ve been over this, you’re blind as a bat. Sales are down, again, this year, based on the financial figures THEY RELEASED. I mean I can link to it again and again, but until you try to read it, there’s really no points.

            The fact that they still make more money over any other company doesn’t mean they don’t care if sales are down…

          • WellSpokenMan

            http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/gw-half-year-financials-out.html
            Sales are down, and even the constant currency trick can’t hide the fact that, even with the cuts they’ve made, profits are flat. GW has a massive headstart over competitiors, but they can’t afford to ignore the gains being made by other companies. Their shareholders want growth, and GW needs to shake this stagnation before it turns into something worse. GW won’t collapse on it’s own, but it can do badly enough to get the management fired. The irony is that poor managers trying desperately to save their jobs are a bigger threat to the company than any of their competitors.

          • georgelabour

            You seem to be responding to someone else’s comments there friend.

            Or..you didn’t actually bother to read what you were replying to before hitting that posting macro.

          • ZeeLobby

            I just ignored your self-aggrandizing drivel and pretended to have a conversation with someone.

        • Shadowlord

          A long sniff in my dump hole!

          • ZeeLobby

            You have a hole people dump in? I hope you get paid…

    • Shiwan8

      6th was ok if you exclude eldar and tau.

      • ZeeLobby

        Yeah, the beginning of 6th was pretty fun. I at least felt like I could take any faction and build something playable, something all-comers. the new Necrons and IKs didn’t help either…

    • Tirelion

      Yay! Maybe the psychic powers will be cast the way they used to be, without a phase to clutter it up.

      • ZeeLobby

        and without factions autocasting while others struggle…

        • Skathrex

          so, how is it more difficult to pass a Leadership test, then to Roll a Number of 4+ on a Number of dice?

  • ytook

    Yet again, I was quoting someone who was at Warhammer Fest who wrote in one comment section, in another comment section. None of that comes from me.

    What I said has been chopped up and presented out of context.

    • nurglitch

      This bears repeating.

      • ZeeLobby

        Repeating a non-statement without clarifying the context would be pointless. I hope he responds! Or if you have some knowledge of the context, feel free to share.

    • ZeeLobby

      Care to clarify the context? I don’t trust BoLS to do it. Without clarifying, this will continue to run.

      • ytook

        On one site somebody who was at Warhammer Fest (and is a well known commenter) said what is presented above, though in two separate comments and in a more “this is the impression I got from chatting to GW people” not “this is definitely happening and I’m in the know” sort of way.

        I saw this and relayed what they’d said to another sites comments adding that I obviously can’t confirm this but they aren’t some random showing up out of nowhere.

        The second site posted my comment providing the proper context and the full thing i.e. that I was simply relaying info I thought was interesting and had no assurances on anything. This is what BoLS picked up and presented as above.

        I’ve tried to clarify but I assume because I mentioned the names of the sites I see my comments are now in pending approval limbo.

        • ZeeLobby

          I got you. I understand how frustrating it can be to be taken out of context. That said, BoLS should at least be recognized as a rumor site, and salt is directly mentioned above, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

          • ytook

            That’s fine and all, this is mainly for others as I got some messages from people badgering me for sources and saying I’m a troll and what not when the first article went up. basically stopped after I left the comment so I’m just cover all bases 😛

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. That’s sad. No one should be bothering you. Sorry.

          • ytook

            No worries, not a big deal really all things considered, just wanted to make sure people didn’t get the wrong impression.

    • benn grimm

      Luckily in every comments section you have made that clear. Maybe you should try emailing the mods?

      • ytook

        I can’t seem to find a way to, is there something I’m missing?

        • benn grimm

          In BOLS lounge, go to ‘my profile’ (not mine; yours), then send private message to one of the admins/mods. Can’t guarantee you’ll get a response but I can imagine that’s probably the best way of going about it.

          • ytook

            Thanks I’ll give it a go 🙂

          • benn grimm

            No probs 🙂

      • They still are listing it as “disqus” too instead of listing other websites. It’s not like they haven’t seen our comments, I know they have since they’ve been deleting them.

        • benn grimm

          I guess that’s just policy for whatever reason. Inter-site politics?

  • generic eric

    I wish I had some copypasta from my old posts. But then I’d just be repeating myself. I’ll withhold judgement, because I’m not expecting much. And…If I’m being honest. I don’t have my models built to play anyhow. *shrug*

  • hokiecow

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the FAQs go final this fall and they release an updated rule book that incorporates the FAQ changes. At the same time, I can see them sneaking in hints of 8th. Testing the waters with some rule changes.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      I am betting the Flyer book was a test run for 8th edition ideas.

  • captkaruthors

    Blow it all up and overhaul it into something with more modern game mechanics. 2nd – to 3rd was a huge shift in design paradigm. The same thing needs to happen again. As it stands, the game is dull, boring and lacks focus. Narratively, the game thrives, but in any other capacity it falls short. YMMV

  • Paul James Harrison

    It’s all just too complicated with too many books, data slates, supplements FAQs etc etc. I want simplicity, all I want to have to carry is a mini rulebook and one of those mini codexes.
    On the other hand, I agree with what some people have said that it could actually be a 7.5 rulebook with the FAQs and supplement rules added.
    What GW need to do is actually make sure that when a new rule book comes out that they actually update ALL codexes.

    • Shiwan8

      I’m carrying a phone. Is that small enough?

      • Paul James Harrison

        Is that what you read all your rules and army lists off? iPad I could see being usable, but a book is still more user friendly, at least for me.

        • Shiwan8

          Well, yes. It’s for reference only after all. At this point I do not see any need for checking the ordinary stuff and searching tools help with the others.

          But that’s just me. I can see why books are your thing.

  • What I would like to see: an 8th edition where the stats and rules for ALL of the 40k armies are included in one giant tome/app, only without the formations. Then narrative campaign books and supplements can expand the armies with cool formations, fluff, and new units.

    • blackbloodshaman

      I think GW would rather have you buy 1500 dollars worth of rule books just to play.

    • THIS. I would love to see that too.

  • JP

    “It’s also correct that GW doesn’t bother re-doing old Codex books, basically since Tau, as they consider 7th a lame duck rule set ”

    Except that Chaos Marines is the only thing left. Does this translate to them getting a no-update reprint book and being stuck in the rut they’ve been in for four years? Because that would be the equivalent of getting kicked in the balls by an Imperator Titan.

  • Adam Murray

    Age of Ghazzy!