40K: New Vendetta Rules

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You wanted updated Vendetta rules – GW gives you Vendetta rules!

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We know a lot of you guys have been eagerly looking forward to this update.
Now you can use your Vendetta Gunships in Death from the Skies games.

Download the full rules here:

Now you can go shooting up your enemy aces in Death From the Skies:

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Death From the Skies $58

~Check your 6 pilots!

  • Mike X

    Does anyone actually use these rules or the dogfight phase in regular games?

    • Matt Mo

      Not me or my group

    • Painjunky

      My local groups thought about DftS and then agreed
      “Nah…lets just wait for 8th ed and whatever the hell that brings”

    • SicSemperTyrannis

      Thats a big fat HELL NO. Our games already take too long.

    • Dubya Postell

      Yes
      We played the whole Air War Campaign from the book.
      I like them.

    • Defenestratus

      I use it when both players have flyers. It’s a lot of fun.

    • Andrew Thomas

      I use the Formations and Detachment, and like the Wing Leader abilities. And I think the naysayers don’t get that Dogfighting only really happens in 1-2 turns out of a 6 turn game, crap Reserves rolls, lazy/intentional Aircraft movement and lack of enemy aircraft notwithstanding.

    • Kyle Gibson

      Have tried them, it’s actually a really quick phase. It’s disappointing they didn’t abstract out the distance/ect though! It’s easy to abstract, but they ask you to use a full table for it… Dunno what they were thinking!

      Do not use them regularly as the local tournaments don’t use them. We have 6 (or more) tournaments a year here so most casual games end up adopting the conventions set by them :).

  • Crablezworth

    That’s that book that came out a while back no one used because jervis is tone deaf? I remember that…

  • pokemastercube .

    well, FW did the rules there not GW, but i’ll let that typo slide

    • G Ullrich

      Except…FW is GW, so…

      • pokemastercube .

        only reason i brought it up is cos normally posts have FW put seperatly when they put things out be it rules or models

    • Orodruin

      Oh, benevolent one.

  • shadow_fox

    So i honestly haven’t played 40k in a pretty long while. Since the start of 7th ed actually if memory serves. However i found myself in increasing awe at the sheer volume of material that is now required to play games. You could argue that most of it is optional but it is still likely to cause problems as you or your opponent for the game sift through increasingly large piles of books, papers, FAQs and datasheets just to make an army….and then try and remember all these rules on the fly.

    I didn’t even know there was a “dogfighting phase” to the game, last i checked the phychic phase had just been introduced. I’ve played wargames for around 15+ years now and i have to say that it is a little disconcerting to see just how much rules bloat is occurring in what for many is the gateway system to wargaming.

    Even my last game of 7th edition 40k took us 4 hours to play at a regular points level (mostly due to teaching someone else who had returned to the scene from university) and both I and my opponent were pretty veteran of previous 40k editions and not to mention, relatively used to rules mechanics and rulebooks due to being long time rpg players etc.

    My slight ramble is to say really, that although hearing about all the new hotness updates and rules appeals to my inner gamer, where does it end? I was a Tau player for a long time but i lost touch and now notice that there are 2 extra game phases and semi-codexes that do not replace the one i currently own but basically does. It is an incredibly daunting thing to think about getting back into 40k with my existing tau army, especially as I still play many other wargames besides. I only pray that 8th edition, whenever that happens, takes major cues from other, less convoluted systems and becomes more accessible.

    • Shawn

      The enormity of 7th isn’t all the much different than sixth. And with all other editions, most players are scared of and/or ignore supplemental books anyway. There is no reason why your meta couldn’t just play with the start collecting boxes and the rule book, if that’s all you wanted.

      • Spacefrisian

        Yup keeping the game simple is fun as well, had a blast of a game with just 1000 points, no allies no formations no large things that take up half of the army…armies like you played back in the day. (and knowing a bit whats going on with draft erratas isnt bad either)

        • Shawn

          Absolutely. We had a tournament a few months back that was just a CAD, nothing more, nothing less. The only downside was the Eldar all ranged D weapon shenanigans.

    • grim_dork

      If you can think of it more as versatility than an obstacle then I think 7th edition is a rich, expansive gaming arena. We’re playing a lot and enjoying it more I think then ever.

      The game as it stands now is much more limited by the imagination and willingness of the players than it is by it’s rules.

    • georgelabour

      You must have missed out on second edition if you think there’s a lot to keep track, and that the pyshic phase was somehow a recent insertion into the rule’s set.

      Individual data cards for every vehicle, with different damage results.

      Random gear cards that can end a game in turn one.

      Entire box sets filled with rules that will never be used, and units that can only be deployed if your opponent is playing a specific army.

      And the psychic phase with its own little mini card game that you play during the game.

      And if you think rules bloat is bad now…imagine a 40k without universal special rules but tons of individual rules for each and every unit.

  • Andrew Thomas

    This was a rush job. They still haven’t got the memo that flyer wings cap at 4 models, so RAW, you can’t get IWND on your Vendettas. Wing Leader abilities look ok, but still not worth the trouble. Pass.

    • Shawn

      Play Iron Hands, then all vehicles get IWND, if that’s what you’re really after.

      • Andrew Thomas

        Uh, ANY wing of 4 planes can get IWND, plus Interceptor and a 4++. I point out that as written, almost all of FW’s planes are left out of using the Attack Patterns in Death from the Skies.

  • uatu13

    I like that in the rules for the new Deathwatch flyer it states “If you choose to use the Death From The Skies rules…” Maybe GW has noticed no one likes their crappy flyer game and it’s reverting back to being an expansion as it should have been all along?

    • Shawn

      Yeah, I think for some reason everyone’s scared to try something new, unless it’s in the codex, even if that codex is OP. And there are a few, who like it. Myself for one. The dogfight phase seems a bit weird as a single die roll off, but otherwise I like the rules. And when 8th rolls out, these rules might become standard, so it might be best to get used to them.

      • uatu13

        It has nothing to do with being scared of trying something new, the rules are crap, and people are getting tired of a game they actually enjoy playing being ruined by GW’s inability to make fun rules. I applaud people that refuse to play with bad rules that ruin the game, and hope GW takes notice that very few people have been enjoying the changes from this book.

      • Grafton Is Dust

        Or we don’t want to extend games by an extra hour and buy a new book to use Fliers in an even more awkward, stapled-on manner?