Chaos Renegade Knights Rules Latest

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The Chaos Marines are bringing along thier BIG friends in Traitor’s Hate. Here’s the latest:

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Traitor’s hate is shaping up to be an interesting book, almost an fusion between the two-part Tau-Imperial Kauyon-Mont’Ka series and the Space Marines Angels of Death supplement.  By that I mean it’s serving the bigger picture of bring the Chaos Marines up to par with the other codices, but is throwing in a lot of Chaos elements in a single book that would normally fall fall outside of a single codex on the Imperial Side.

One example is the inclusion of Renegade Knights. Access to these outside of costly Forge World models means the CSMs can finally get in on the mainstream Knight action. Here are a taste of the rules coming this Saturday:

images via Scanner 9-8-2016

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Here’s the Renegade Knight Detachment and Allies rules – Ohh Battle Brothers with CSMs!

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Here’s the big guy himself.

Look Familiar?

If it does, it’s because these are almost identical versions of the 40K rules that came with April’s Imperial Knight Renegade box game. The Renegagde Knights look to have access to all the standard weapons that come in the knight box – so they will be on equal footing with their loyal counterparts.

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It was really only a matter of time until those rules made thier way into real 40K book instead of a pamphlet from a boxed game that is long sold out.

~How much of a difference do you think CSM knights are going have on their power?

  • GiftoftheMagi

    So…am I the only one a bit annoying or concerned about how fragmented these rules are becoming? It seems like that for some armies, in order to get the best out of them or know all your options, you have to buy several books, box sets and WD issues. For one army.

    I like that the CSM are finally getting a bit of love, but this seems like a lot of things to collect just to get them to par. Why not just redo one Codex.

    • Brian Griffith

      Because that would be somewhere between pointless and counterproductive to do right before the new edition.

    • NNextremNN

      Go for Battle Scribe is shows a lot of rules or tells you were to find them.

    • Alan Doyle

      Because that would require GW listening to the fans.

      • wibbling

        As they already do that what other arguments do you have?

        • Alan Doyle

          Is Chaos, Orks, Sisters of Battle enough of an argument?

    • Koszka

      Third edition my IG army used 2 WD issues, 2 codexes, and a campaign book.

      I mean, 40k has been like this for a while.

      God forbid some players went back to the days where most of your new units’ rules were from different white dwarf data cards! Epic was insane.

      • GiftoftheMagi

        Yeah I rememberthat, and having Assassin rules is specific WD issues only, and datacards. Things had gotten better for a while though…and now it’s all over the place. I’m at the point I no longer buy Codexes.

    • Bryan Ruhe

      Been this way for all the armies for a while now.
      Bring on the revisions… 8th edition can’t come soon enough.

  • Ross Allan

    Renegade Knights have a much better range of weapon options, as they can double up on the Rapid Fire Battle Cannon or Thermal Cannon – and with a second look, even the Gatling Cannon.

    Dunno about anyone else, but I’d be wary of a Knight pumping out four battle cannon shots a turn.

    • Nubu

      What are the bonuses the loyalist household gets?

      • Kyle Goguen

        Formations, Relics, ObjSec on their regular detachment, access to FW knights

        • Nubu

          Ok. What are the actual bonuses besides obsec?

          • Andrew Thomas

            What he said. And they can be Primary.

          • Nubu

            Is there not some formation/detachment bonus besides that? I have a strong feeling that there is.

          • Ross Allan

            There are, but I couldn’t tell you what they off the top of my head. I’ve never quite got my old, grey head round using formations (I’m still convinced you need to start with a FoC force, then, points allowing, add formations. I know I’m wrong, but it’s stuck!)

          • Andrew Thomas

            Nope, although there’s a compelling argument for running Baronial Court instead of Household, due to the whole “getting shot in the 8u77 while standing around due to not being able to go to ground ever,” thing.

          • Nubu

            Looks eerily like loyalists get the better fotmation knight detachment.

          • OldHat

            Baronial Court gets a +1 to the shields. So there is that. Though honestly, getting twin Gatlings is so gross. Wish good guy Knights could take that, but I guess Chaos gets its own deal for once and isn’t an exact (or worse) spikey copy.

          • Lee Williams

            What are you talking about?

            Straight from Codex:Imperial Knights
            Ionic Shieldwall: As long as an Imperial Knight from this Formation is within 6″ of one or more other Imperial Knights from this Formation, it adds 1 to any invulnerable saving throw it makes for its ion shield on the front arc.

          • OldHat

            Yea, that rule. Thanks, I don’t have the Codex on-hand or memorized verbatim.

            And also there is the Adamantine Lance. Similar concept.

          • Lee Williams

            8u77? Are you scared to type ‘butt’?

          • Andrew Thomas

            Just saying.

    • Dan Wilson

      Or 24 rending AP3 shots… bye bye spehss marines…

  • Nubu

    So, the same old rules.

  • DarkSeren1ty

    So nothing new. Well, Larry this is how much Of a difference I think CSM Knights are going to have on their power since the last time these rules were released (earlier this year):

    About as much new info that was in this “article.”

  • Lee Williams

    Am I the only one that is annoyed by the fact that this has been in the Imperial Knight codex for months? Or that the author thinks he’s found some diamond in the rough? I mean this is just really stupid.

    “It was really only a matter of time until those rules made their way into real 40K book instead of a pamphlet from a boxed game that is long sold out.”

  • Mike Salamandrin

    So, if they can join the same armies as The CSM, does that mean deamons allied with Fallen Knights?

  • Orodruin

    Pardon the snark, but why was this article written as if we haven’t had Renegade Knights for a while now? There’s even a pic of the boxed game with the pre-existing rules that were copied and pasted into Traitor’s Hate.