Geekery: Discovery is Falling Apart

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The release date for the new Star Trek series has been pushed back, and now it’s lost its show runner.

The issues with this project seem to be never ending. Last month CBS announced that they were pushing the series premier back from January to May of next year. The explanation was that the team needed more time to meet audience expectations, and perfect the special effects. I can’t blame them, especially after the trailer they showed at SDCC.

There’s no official cast list for a show that was supposed to start filming last month – there were complaints about not having a lead actor as late as yesterday. The set was supposed to be ready last month, and hasn’t been completed. CBS has said they will be ready to start filming next month. Maybe. Possibly. Kinda doubt it.

They pulled in two new producers in August. Yesterday it was announced that Bryan Fuller is leaving his showrunner position, and Akiva Goldsman is being brought in as a producer. He’s the guy behind such gems as Batman and Robin, The Da Vinci Code, I am Legend, and Insurgent. He has no formal connection to Star Trek.

I think we can all see where this is going…

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CBS Interactive president Marc DeBevoise’s promise last month that:

“[we] have an amazing inaugural slate of originals for CBS All Access and world-class creative teams behind each of our shows. This lineup and release schedule will ensure we deliver the highest quality, premium series that are sure to appeal to both existing subscribers and new audiences alike, throughout the year”

…is feeling very hollow right now.

  • Ross Allan

    Still kind of feel this might be a good thing…not keen on yet another series set before Kirk et al.

  • Jonathan B.

    CBS/Paramount needs to abandon the reimagined alternate reality stories and pursue something between Kirk and Picard. Either that or move into the 25th century post Voyager. And redesign that turd, I mean ship.

    • euansmith

      Maybe CBS could just release Axanar instead?

      http://www.axanarproductions.com/

      • cudgel

        Thanks for the link !

      • Moose

        no, self aggrandizing pos.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        The problem is that that series held so much more promise than this series.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      CBS owns the TV rights, Paramount the movie rights.

      The TV show is not set in the alternate universe of the movies. This show is set pre-Kirk but long after Enterprise.

      • Ciaphas Cain

        Oh good I was worried. Nice so Early Federation?

      • Horus84cmd

        Mis-direct excuse, every star trek film has been produced by Paramount, not just the recent 3. Its ‘paramount tv studios’ who became CBS when they rights where “transferred”. They could choose to use either universe.

        • Scott Horn

          The timelines don’t split until the day Kirk is born. Discovery is set before that point.

          • Horus84cmd

            Whats that got to do with the price of lemons? That makes no difference to who owns what.

          • Scott Horn

            It makes the choice of universe academic, because they’re the same.

          • Horus84cmd

            ha I see what you did there.

    • Ciaphas Cain

      Oh is this the Garbage Fire New Movie Universe?

  • Bryan Ruhe

    No Bryan Fuller? Oh dear. This is not good.

    • He’s on as EP and has gotten the arc for the first season figured out… but, he won’t be nearly as involved because he’s too busy at this point.

      It’s just another set back/let down on a pile of issues going on with the project – it just seems to be self destructing.

  • Dirheim

    We are having a Nemesis coming

    • D. B.

      Don’t even say it. Not funny. That film was a two-hour warp core breach.

      • Dirheim

        But they seem to follow the same formula with a director doesn’t know the warp of Star Trek

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        Nemesis was an ok film script-wise. It could have been better but it was not awful. I think it would have been much better if Paramount had allowed Frakes to direct again.

        • D. B.

          Well, Frakes did First Contact, and I’d have loved to see what he’d have done with it.

      • Ciaphas Cain

        Hey I liked it.

        But that might be because a mate came over with some weed just before I went to see it…

  • Horus84cmd

    Looked awful. Why go back in time within the original continuity universe? The new films had wonderfully set up a new universe to explore/re-explore plot lines in a different way. Why they hell, did they not pursue that? Or if they wished to stay in the original continuity then, why not go further forward in time again?

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      The rights of Star Trek are split between two different companies. They are not going to share their toys.

      Also, thank god it isn’t set in that abomination of a universe that is the movies. That universe is Star Wars with the name filed off and Star Trek characters inserted into it.

      • Ciaphas Cain

        This, all of this!

      • Horus84cmd

        I know they’re produced by different companies, but it not like they can’t work together if they wanted to -Look at Marvel and Sony getting together for spiderman. It a mis-direct excuse, every star trek film has been produced by Paramount, not just the recent 3. Its ‘paramount tv studios’ who became CBS when they rights where “transferred”

    • Ross Allan

      I think setting in the future of Kirk’s world is what made TNG and DS9 work – we saw the Federation and it’s environs develop. The end of the Dominion War left it all ridiculously changed – let’s see the state of things a generation or two beyond that. I’d pretty much kill to see Sir Patrick back for an ‘old man’ cameo.

  • euansmith

    I’d like to see a series focusing on the Red Shirts and Technicians who should be making up the Away Teams. With a stable cast of characters staying on the bridge and doing some actual commanding, they could cycle through the guys who get sent down to the planets as they get eaten, possessed, enslaved, killed, kidnapped, seduced and generally hosed down by a cruel and unfeeling Universe… plus Ferengi.

    • ZeeLobby

      That would actually be a unique take.

      • Kolobius

        Unique, but realistic

    • Ciaphas Cain

      Another Idea would be an anthology style ‘Tales of the Star Trek Universe’ show. Each episode a different cast and a different story, set in a different place. Or not, you could tie it all together with a DS9 style setting on a frontier planet or Station. Maybe frame each story as a tale in a tavern. Star Trek: Tales From Quark’s Bar or something.

      How awesome would that be, we can learn more about the many alien races that make up the Star Trek universe. My favourite DS9 episodes were always the ones where you learned more about the alien cultures.

  • The combination of terrible ship design, not very promising advertising (“action oriented”) with questionable decisions in their pay model (aka it’s complete wank) and now the sacking of Fuller…
    Yeah. This is gonna suck.

    Perfect choice of picture, btw.

  • D. B.

    Some things about the new series might be controversial (I like the recycled McQuarrie design), but it looked like something with great potential.

    And now this? Seriously? How could they have such an interesting concept look even less developed than several months before? So far, only cryptic allusions and a trailer which could be described as promising, if lacking somewhat in the CGI department.

    • ZeeLobby

      Like dude’s basement level of CGI.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        It is the quality I would be pleased with if this were Axanar.

        Not a main line CBS show.

        • ZeeLobby

          exactly. I mean I’ve seen shows on crapier stations with better. And this is a sci fi show. It’ll be an important aspect throughout it’s run.

  • Paul Applebaum

    Axinar was scuttled for this?

    • The lawsuit is still in courts. Let’s hope Axanar wins. If they win and become a success, maybe just maybe the suits at CBS and the movies will grow two or three brain cells.

  • Chet Atkinson

    The programme will be fine guys – don’t fret 🙂 A lot of hoo-ha over nothing