40K: Fall of Cadia Announced

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Games Workshop has pulled the covers off the next big event for 40K: The Gathering Storm – Fall of Cadia!

The Warhammer Community Team unleashed a ton of new teasers and trailers for the next chapter in the Warhammer 40,000 saga. And it doesn’t sound too good for the Imperium…

via Warhammer Community

First we get a fairly dire warning from the Imperial forces stationed at the Cadian Gate…then again with a title like “Gathering Storm – Fall of Cadia” this does not bode well…


“Reborn in Black and Gold” – hmm. That’s interesting. I wonder what the narrator was referring too.

They also had the following to say about Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia:

The Eye of Terror is about to open and unleash a tide of darkness, Daemons and traitors into an already beset Imperium. Against the unified might of the Traitor Legions stand the heroes of the Cadian Gate, who will stop at nothing to drive back the Gathering Storm.

The scene is set for the most epic narrative in the history of the 41st Millennium – a fitting celebration of 30 years of Warhammer 40,000 and a great way to kick off the next 30 years of grim darkness in the far future.

The Gathering Storm begins with the epic events detailed in the Fall of Cadia – available for pre-order on January 7th.

And what would a teaser be without some new miniatures to show off?

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Saint Celestine and the Geminae Superia

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Inquisitor Greyfax

 

The miniatures accompanying the first Gathering Storm book represent a few of the factions that stand against the Legions of Chaos, including: our first plastic Inquisitor miniature, the huge and hunched form of an ancient Archmagos Dominus, and the angelic Saint Celestine, resurrected (or possibly, saved from the dust bin) leading the Imperium’s armies.

 

Well now we know what to look forward to in January – 2017 is going to be a year to remember!

 

Plastic Sisters of Battle! What’s next a plastic Thunderhawk?

  • ZeeLobby

    Man, the back and forth of the full plastic sisters of battle feud is going to be epic. To me this sounds like Celestine is back in the campaign book, and doesn’t scream new sisters codex with fully updated line to me, but I’m sure some people are still expecting it. We shall see…

    • CMAngelos

      They’re baiting the playerbase to see how many have a heart attack from the stress before release. Obviously.

      • ZeeLobby

        Almost seems like it, lol.

  • Black & Gold – Black Templars and Saint Celestine.

    • Drew_Da_Destroya

      The narrator is Abbadon. Black and Gold are the colors of the Black Legion.

      • Heinz Fiction

        Pretty obvious. And I don’t even play chaos 🙂

        • Drew_Da_Destroya

          Yeah, neither do I. I’m left wondering why people are even confused by this.

      • ZeeLobby

        The narrator is clearly Ben Roethlisberger, and clearly he’s implying a Steelers victory over the Ravens this Christmas. Which is just silly and will never happen.

        • Drew_Da_Destroya

          I mean, who even plays Football on Christmas anyway?

          • ZeeLobby

            Champions (well purple ones)!

            On a side note my in-laws are huge Steeler fans, so I’m really hoping the Ravens crush them. It’d be like the ultimate gift from Santa, haha.

          • Drew_Da_Destroya

            I’m from the Philly area, so I always hope that the Steelers get crushed!

          • ZeeLobby

            Sweet. Yeah, them and the Patriots. Just can’t stand either, haha.

          • GulMek

            Sorry we can’t stop winning… but I agree, steelers can suck it

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah yeah yeah. I’ll accept a truce because of our equal hatred of the stealers!

          • Muninwing

            new england native here…

            i don’t care much, but pats fever is everywhere around me. when it’s not sox, bruins, or celts…

          • Xodis

            Cowboys play the day after Christmas against the Lions……Sounds like its going to be a great Christmas 😀

          • ZeeLobby

            😀

          • Slargy

            go lions….

          • Xodis

            Good luck lol

          • lorieth

            Does that make your father-in-law a Steeler Patriarch?

          • ZeeLobby

            he does wear steeler oven mitts to not “hurt” anyone when he high fives during game days…. :O

        • Aztec43

          Last I check your teams colors were black and yellow.

          Who Dat!

          • ZeeLobby

            I’ve dug deeper via Google, and it seems to be a pretty heated debate. The Wikipedia states black and gold, but strong supporters of the Wiz Khalifa song swear by black and yellow. The conundrum!?!?!

      • But why will ‘Emperor’s Angels’ be reborn in black and gold? Does that make sense? The Black Legion aren’t the Emperor’s Angels, are they?

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          Perhaps the Dark Angels (or some other Space Marine chapter, they are, after all, “Angels of Death”) will turn traitor and join the Black Legion.

          • I prefer believing in the “Black Templars Crusade with Saint Celestine at the front” comment of the GW-2016-review video.

          • Slargy

            Hate to say it, but space marines in general are referrred to as “angels” many of times. This is 100% referring to the black legion coming back. Remember, the black and gold pattern is a recent ( relatively, the warp messes with time) development as a symbol of the shame they exhibit for failing to take terra the first time.

          • “Recent” as in “happened before the first Black Crusade when Abaddon first broke out of the eye for good”

          • Adam Murray

            It’s the fallen I think. The narrator might be cypher

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Could be.

          • Kullen

            They might go heretic but never traitor

        • Dan

          The Space Marines are the angels of the Emperor. They’ve been called that, at least with poetic license, forever.

          Especially when you consider out-of-universe the Heresy is just literally the War in Heaven from Christian myth. The “angels back in black and gold” is the Traitor legions returning under the banner of the Black Legion.

        • ILikeToColourRed

          in “the first heretic” the word bearers are referred to as angels – so i believe its a generic term for space marines

      • Hot_Dog_Heretic

        I’m hoping this means we see some fallen Dark Angels join the Black Legion. Or, even better, see a Blood Angels successor turn to Khorne.

  • Rainthezangoose

    I like the candle.

    Wont celebrate until i SEE plastic sisters.

  • Lion El’ Jonson

    …..I know it must happen to make Chaos great again, but it saddens me to see Cadia fall. Ten millenia fighting hell itself comes to an end, for the proud fortress world.

    • ZeeLobby

      Eh. Maybe it’ll be like Praag in the old world, and they’ll retake it but it’ll be haunted. Would be kind of cool.

      • Lion El’ Jonson

        It’s just all the history for Cadia will most likely end here. It has to happen, it must, but it’s a sad end to a proud bastion of the Imperium.

        • ZeeLobby

          Oh I agree. It would be twice as disappointing if nothing actually happens (aka all of GW’s past campaigns).

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Well as we said elsewhere, Cadia did get messed up before. Some of the moons were destroyed, Kor was blackened but still there. Prime got a continent leveled or something like that. Allowing Chaos to go unchecked into the imperium as a whole, even though they didn’t win win, and it felt as nothing changed.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah, Chaos is just ALWAYS running rampant through the streets, lol.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Didn’t mean it that way. Just that the gate can’t hold them back from sneaking about. That larger than just small raiding parties can go freely in and out of the EoT. As that was the fluff in 3-4. Until they retconned in 5th. So Chaos could just appear anywhere they wanted. Which allowed the narrative for anyone to fight them. Sadly fluff and story progressin can kinda sorta, hinder narrative play. People get locked into it. Heck I do not see anyone playing their own custom chapter anymore, always sticking to official paint schemes and the like. No one making their own lost legions of troops, no one making up who the lost primarchs are, etc.

          • ZeeLobby

            Oh, I know, I was just joking. Haha.

          • Frey Jepson

            Yep. The antagonist gets literally kicked in the nuts. The End.

        • Frey Jepson

          Sad? Have you ever heard of Warhammer End Times and what they did to the entire universe?

          • kloosterboer

            To be fair, that universe was only 1 planet.

        • Dan Wilson

          All of the cadian survivers will get stationed elsewhere. Some planet will be renamed New Cadia, which already sounds cool.

          • Muninwing

            even if that doesn’t happen, unless Cadia is utterly destroyed (which, actually, would shake things up a bit…) there is the possibility of it being a semi-occupied and contested planet. either for the duration of the campaign or indefinitely.

            it would be a twist, for Cadia to be the hinge upon which the defense of the Imperium turned. that they are largely overrun, but after Chaos overextends itself the rebels and some reinforcements retake the planet and slam the gate shut on the Crusade and its supply lines… then pincer the incursion.

            i wouldn’t feel robbed if they did something like that. sad that it was predictable this early… curious about what Cadia would be like as a half-ruined death-planet… concerned about how they would keep Chaos active afterward… but not robbed.

      • euansmith

        Making Cadia the location of a mash up between Necromunda and Mordheim? With Cadian survivors fighting over supplies in the chaos warped ruins of the fortress cities?

        • Muninwing

          that would be an awesome game.

  • Severius_Tolluck

    My body is ready! I have been waiting for this for so long! I remember having a high rank as a sisters player during the last 13th BC! Ialso started collecting Skitarri to ally with my sisters in this edition, and unf.. we get the two together! That condemner bolt pistol is cool, the inquisitor looks a little like Kate Beckinsale. I have the old ones with the goofy hair, but I must admit, I like this one slightly more as it is a nice mix of the two types. The man with the hat and pistol, and the armored women.

    • Valeli

      I’ve got to say, I don’t like most of the inquisitor models and have never particularly wanted one around my army. This one I’m sort of a fan of though.

  • Mr_Pickles

    So are the black pillar things on Cadia still there? Are they related to Necrons/will Necrons have a part in this story?

    • ZeeLobby

      Hopefully they won’t try to pigeon hole every single faction into this again, but I assume they’ll go with whatever can generate more sales.

      • OldHat

        They have been pretty good about keeping campaigns limited in scope of late. I think the idea is to give clusters of factions campaigns that highlight them, instead of a brawl between everyone.

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah, def a much better way to do it.

      • Muninwing

        sadly, trying to get everyone involved is actually a good idea. it gets everyone playing.

        now, getting everyone involved in the larger overarcing plot is kind of lame and burdensome, but that’s separate.

        Crons are still on certain worlds. Tau are always going to try to expand. Nids eat stuff. Orks do orky stuff. that’s going to be in the background at least. But suddenly making every one of them hit a peak frenzy and get involved in the events of the time? that gets lame fast.

    • EnTyme

      A large part of Cadia’s backstory was that there was some Necron tech on the planet that was put there to suppress warp energy.

      • Frey Jepson

        It was a star god creation. More accurately

        Mag’ladroth’s.

        • EnTyme

          My mistake. I guess my point is that the Necrons were always part of Cadia’s history.

          • Muninwing

            at least for the last decade or so…

  • SilentPony

    High heels and armored corsets with the breasts cut out so them taataas are front and center.
    Glad to know the last 30 years have done nothing to stifle the pure noble Battle Sisters’ fetish fashion sense.

    • ZeeLobby

      Their boobs point towards danger!

    • CMAngelos

      Boobs are bad. Nothing should ever be allowed to be even remotely sexy when females are involved, Because that’s terribly demeaning.. or something.

      /sarcasm.

      • Kefka

        No, but two conical add-ons to your chestplate screaming “stab me in the heart” are just plain unpractical… or something.

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah. I don’t get why people can’t admit that it doesn’t make sense and move on. Why they try to justify or defend the impracticality of it is beyond me. GW will be alright without them, haha.

          • CMAngelos

            See that’s the thing they are Impractical. But so is most of 40k as a whole. This is just Impractical with boobs so it’s bad. Apparently.

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean some people just don’t like it. There’s nothing wrong with that. I personally don’t care, but I’m not going to attack a person who has issues with it, cause there are issues with it, haha. Practicality issues, sexist issues, etc. I get that.

        • Xodis

          Correct, who likes practicality, its not like its a Candle on someones….hat…..

          • ZeeLobby

            LOL. The more I look at it the dumber it gets. Almost like a hundred lit candles on a flyer going faster than the speed of sound…

          • CMAngelos

            The candles are kept alight by pure faith in the Emperor! Do not doubt his ability to keep candles of retribution aflame!

          • ZeeLobby

            How foolish of me! Ofcourse! 😀

          • georgelabour

            Trawling through loads of novels over the years has shown that the imperium often has a high tech item slapped into a supposedly low tech container.

            So things like candle shaped power cores that project holographic flames is not only something they’d do, but has been mentioned in more than one novel.

            So, there ya go.

          • ZeeLobby

            OK. They throw that in her fluff, and I’m on board, haha.

          • SilentPony

            Perfect for night fighting too. The enemies don’t know which plasma candle is a Battle Sister, and which is a native Plasma firefly!

          • ZeeLobby

            DAMN YOU FIRE FLIES!

          • georgelabour

            Why would they need to add that little detail? It seems superfluous considering its relative lack of importance to providing character to a toy soldier used in a wargame.

            I mean, they don’t even tell us that cherubs are little more than mechanical frames, wrapped in fake baby bacon, and controlled by a cloned bird brain. So why would they need to mention her candle might in fact be a slow decay power occilator with holographic lumen projector…wolf?

            Also I just really wanted an excuse to use baby bacon and bird brain in the same sentence. Thank you for providing it.

          • ZeeLobby

            Cause it would be a cool thing to have in the fluff, and would be tight to explain to people who don’t know the game at our local store, rather than being like “they put a candle on her hat because she’s dumb”.

          • georgelabour

            Oh well. now you know they exist.

            And also how cherubs are made.

            Sadly the knowledge of how cherubs are delivered is a {Redacted} that would result in censure by the {redacted} for violation of the accords of Storkia {redacted}.

            But hey, the candle things still neat.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha.

          • memitchell

            How Cherubs are made?

            When a Mommy Cherub and a Daddy Cherub love each other very much, they give each other a very special hug. And, that’s how Baby Cherubs are made!

          • georgelabour

            HERESY!

            Without cloned bird brains and manufactured baby bacon those are but blasphemous spawns of the heretek and the sinful!

            Report to your nearest free thinking biological processes redemption center for mandatory morality implants citizen! There will be cake.

          • euansmith

            You had me at, “… bacon.”

        • Donald Lindsey

          So is yellow caution tape armour.

      • SilentPony

        Soldiers aren’t supposed to be sexy. Try telling female Marines that you’d love to let them fight, but they’re not attractive enough. They need push up bras, thongs and heels and would it kill them to put on a little mascara?!
        How can we trust them to find and control a primary objective when they can’t even find a lipgloss that matches their boltgun?!
        Slay the Warlord?! More like slay that wardrobe, right ladies? Girl power!

        • ZeeLobby

          LoL

        • CMAngelos

          Oh I forgot everything has to be dirty brown shades of boring. Nothing can be whimsical, to go along with all the dirt grunge and blood.

          It’s a science fiction universe, full of impractical BS, Gothic Corseted murder Nuns are the least of the things on the impractical list.

          • SilentPony

            No, no, that’s pretty high up there. The only all female army wears fetish outfits is pretty blatant and tactile when the vast majority of the 40k setting doesn’t appear on the table.

        • CMAngelos

          See now in the defense of women or whatever you’re trying to do, you come off as supremely sexist instead.

          Sexy does not mean incompetent, lewd, ditzy or anything negative. It simply means appeal. Am I going to tell a marine they can’t fight cus they’re not sexy? Only if I have a deathwish.

          But I’m not going to chace the same deathwish telling a female marine they’re a marine so they can’t be sexy!

          It’s part of the aesthetic, it’s part of the setting. For Sisters of Battle the armor however ridiculous in Actual practicality is there version of Marine BDUs and Plate Carriers. It’s their uniform, don’t like how they look tell that to a real SoB and you likely get a boot to the junk same as you would from implying anything you just said about a Real marine.

          It’s Grimdark Science Fantasy. If you don’t like the look, don’t buy the minis, that’s all there is to it.

          • SilentPony

            No no, there’s a difference. I’m not saying Marines can’t be sexy, I’m saying its absurd to tell those that aren’t they have to meet a certain standard.
            And try telling one who isn’t wearing make-up that she needs to doll herself up before going out on patrol.

            Its seems like people think empowering = a set standard of sexiness all women must meet.
            That Battle Sisters HAVE to have large breasts because its whimsical, they HAVE to wear high heel metal combat boots, because they’re symbols of the Emperor’s might as, literally, objectified through shoes, they HAVE to wear armored corsets because hey Space Marines look stupid covered in robes, ropes, leather, paper, candles, gold eagles and wearing codpieces too, so they just wanted to fit in!

          • CMAngelos

            being Empowered in its simplest terms, Is being comfortable with yourself, moving in positive directions and making choices for your own betterment.

            To most of the women i know, being empowered means being Okay with the fact “I have boobs, what i do with them is my choice, and what others think MY standards should be should not impact how i live my life as long as I am truely happy”

            NONE of which even exists in 40k. You’re Chosen to be a Space Marine, You’re Chosen to be a Sister of Battle. You are Drafted Sometimes chosen to be in the Imperial Guard.

            Choice is not something that exists much in 40k

            Boob armor in a dystopian grim dark hellscape future has Zero to do with Anyone’s Empowerment. Its there to fit a role and a setting and a uniform projection of the fighting force as Women, no more no less. It is a projection of Perfection in the same way Space marine power armor is.

            ANd if you want to get into possible In Universe reasons:

            No one has to have Big, small, or even both boobs to be a sister of battle. The armor is Uniform because it is -metal-. Ceramite power armor to be specific and will be the same whether the girl under it is an A cup or a D. Infact i would imagine if you want to get super technical BECAUSE its uniform, those with Too large would either be restricted or -removed- given what sort of setting it is in order to maintain it.

          • Valeli

            “I’m not saying Marines can’t be sexy, I’m saying its absurd to tell those that aren’t they have to meet a certain standard. ”

            So the solution is to have more ugly (subjective, VERY subjective) sisters in the model line up so we can destroy their unified appearance that is a universal goal across all model lines and all be upstanding non-sexist citizens?

            Please.

          • Haighus

            To be fair, there are only two models I can think of that wear heels, the Canoness released recently, and this Inquisitor. By and large, GW has been more practical than that when it comes to heels (John Blanche artwork notwithstanding).

            I don’t mind heels on the Inquisitor, because that is just as much her civilian attire as it is her combat attire. I do on SoB, which is partly why I’ve not got the Canoness.

          • euansmith
          • LittleMonster

            Funny, I’ve been reading along through this discussion and figured I’d chime in, since I think defenders of armoured bewbs are completely missing the point of your posts here in order to justify the fact that they like armoured bewbs. They’re being deliberately obtuse [or are simply dense] if they really don’t get the difference between the ridiculousness of two-handed chainswords and the ridiculousness of sexy fetish corset armour with freaking high-heeled boots.

            It goes without saying that every faction in the game is defined by “awesome, but impractical” so shot-trap chestplates aren’t the real problem with the Sisters, it’s that they’re the only army that is overtly sexualized across the board for absolutely no reason except to titillate. Of course belt-fed, fully-automatic rocket guns aren’t practical weapons and nine-foot-tall genetically-enhanced warrior monks who wear nearly impenetrable armour but leave their helmets in the Rhino are insane, but at least they fit into “the grim darkness of the far future…” Sexy fetish murder nuns also look cool, but are intended to appeal to heterosexual males and there’s no getting around that. Leave off the “sexy fetish” part and they’re fine, but busty corset armour doesn’t even really make sense in-universe: there’s no fluffy rationalization for it. Freaking SLAANESH is less sexualized, and they’re the only faction that actually justifies it!

          • SilentPony

            Thank you for putting this so eloquently. You summed up in 1 post what I spent hours trying to convince people of.
            There is a massive difference between Space Marines wearing huge shoulder pads or carrying swords as tall as a basketball player, and the only all female army wearing high heels, makeup and literal fetish equipment.

          • LittleMonster

            Exactly, and it was pretty ironic to have a bunch of guys deciding for the rest of us that an army of women in boob-tastic fetish wear isn’t sexist at all [they’re wearing empowered armour!] and that we somehow just don’t understand the fantasy/sci-fi setting. Honestly though, the discussion did stay pretty civil, which is a credit to both sides, and you showed lots of patience trying to make your point.

            Interestingly, there was an article posted on BoLS recently about Dungeons & Dragons’ evolution into a game more appealing to a wider range of players. This notably involved the loss of the most blatantly cheesecake-y elements from the original world, which seems just slightly relevant here…

          • Muninwing

            see, maybe it’s just indicative of who i hang around with, but i don’t see the Sororitas as sexualized. except the Repentia.

            sure, bewb armor. and corsets. and some high heels. that’s a tuesday (literally when i was in college: that was the local goth/industrial scene’s nightclub event). if that’s titillating to you, then you don’t get out much.

            i also get that the Sororitas are
            – an all-female army that exists because of its sex (and the resulting gender construct), due to the edicts surrounding the Ecclesiarchy
            – as stylized as any other army, showing off its distinctness in an ornate and stylized manner
            – surprisingly tame, image wise (again, with exception to the Repentia, which are complicated and kinda creepy)
            – no different than focusing on the sheer size/bulk of the Astartes as a symbol of strength, or the spikiness/rot/fire/etc as a symbol of chaos corruption

            this is actually best summed up by a different article, as applied to the Sisters. go read Yorknecromancer’s editorial on why Sergeants not wearing helmets makes perfect sense. here’s a link: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/03/40k-deep-thought-dont-put-helmets.html

            it’s that same mindset that would take the kind of woman who would join a convent of militant nuns to fight for the glory of the god-emperor as one of his “brides” (and that’s a concept borrowed from christian clergy, so that’s not a creepy made-up excuse but an exploration of a real-world idea), and convince here to suit up and fight evil. and if she is suiting up and fighting evil as a deliberately-female member of a warrior-nun convent, why would she want to hide something that she is probably proud of — the fact that she is a woman, and a “bride of the emperor” because of it?

            – it’s not sexist to include women.
            – it’s not sexist for those women to be attractive, or unattractive, except if that’s an abnormality in comparison (and even then it’s debatable)
            – it’s not sexist for those women to be capable
            – it’s not sexist for a woman to want the freedom to actually be feminine
            – it’s not sexist for female players to want to be reflected somehow in the culture of the game, or the fluff

            you can argue that the game itself is a giant boy’s club, and that of course the very inclusion of the Sororitas is a sexist construct, since why can’t women be Astartes or Cadians or Vostroyans or the like…? Sure, i get it. that’s actually a far more complicated issue… and a reason why it’s pretty sad that there are no female cadians even still. but it’s a magnification, a fascist grimdark nightmare in a universe that is so much further down the terrifying scale that that extremism is the only thing keeping reality from crumpling. in such an exaggerated setting, everything is exaggerated.

            so picking on one which makes sense as part of the whole is actually doing a good job excluding women and femininity in the name of white-knight defending it.

            you can not like it. whatever. opinions are like that. you can think it’s kinda creepy — sure, but not really less creepy than a host of other things. that this is such a touchy point is a little ridiculous though, especially with a ton of dudes alternating between condemning the existence of bewbs and approving other titillation because bewbs.

          • LittleMonster

            Excellent points all around. I was definitely oversimplifying to make a point, mainly that whether or not the Sisters are a problem can’t be simply dismissed by saying “sci-fi universe, get over it.” Which seemed to be the main argument in their defense.

            I disagree that it’s “indicative of who you hang around with” though: I spent much of the 90s in the Los Angeles goth scene and, just because I’m a bit de-sensitized to corsets and the like, I wouldn’t pretend spike heels and clothing that exaggerates an hourglass figure and breasts aren’t sexualized because they’re not novel to me personally anymore…

          • Muninwing

            alright, i get that. but i also know plenty of women who wear such clothing as regular attire instead of special or specialized costuming.

            note that there are what — two models that have high heels? one that’s a Sororitas? so that’s less of an issue.

            what i find interesting is that you’re exactly right — accentuating a female body. that’s what we are discussing here. it does not matter how it is done, but the why.

            why would women as members of a female order of warriors wear armor that showed that they were female? probably to prove a point. and consideration of that seems beyond reason for some reason…

          • LittleMonster

            Yeah, it’s true that the heels aren’t really much of a problem one way or the other, since they only appear a couple times. And I actually LIKE the Sisters’ models, silly as the aesthetic may be. I was just annoyed by the dismissive, know-it-all tone of some of the posters. There’s an interesting discussion here to be had on the topic, but instead I felt like I was listening to the worst stereotypes of gamers discuss sexual politics.

        • Xodis

          correct, soldiers shouldn’t, so someone go tell those Space Marines to quit polishing and decorating all that armor with golden bling…they look like streetwalkers.

          • ZeeLobby

            That’s what i call them when I see them across the table from me!

          • SilentPony

            Yes, they should. Sanguinary Guard with sculpted on abs and nipples is absurdly stupid, even by Marine standards.
            And yes Dark Angels wearing hoods over their helmets is stupid too.
            As is Space Wolves with jump packs wearing fur capes.
            As is Ultramarines covered in golden eagles that make it impossible to fit through doorways.
            As is Raven Guard covering their armor is white and gold, to make them more stealthy.

          • Karru

            So there is literally anything you enjoy about 40k aesthetics?

          • SilentPony

            I like the Tau. Sleek, stealthy, efficient, no decorations like jingling chains on stealth suits or giant spikes and hooks on bikes meant to whip and dodge between building and tanks.
            I like Orks. Absurdly stupid soccer hooligans who think if its green, its better, red is faster and everything needs more guns. At least they’re not trying to be prim, proper gentlemen soldiers who good technology and a respect for the rules of engagement. They’re just ‘hit ’em with a stick, and then shoot ’em and then hit ’em again’. Absurdity is fine, as long as you don’t pretend to not be absurd.

            Nids are okay, if stupid. Why eat biomass when solar power is more reliable and attainable for a species wide energy source.

            Hell, I’ll even go with Emperor’s Children because their whole thing is wildly impractical, gauche, sexually explicit, artistic satanic hedonism. So spiked codpieces and hooked chains that link eyeball to foot is right up their demonically enhanced absurdity.

          • CMAngelos

            So lessee…
            Tau: Giant BLOCKY robots = stealthy and sleek. Mkay
            Orks: Its okay to generalize a Sect of culture (English football fans in your case) If its funny!
            Nids: T hey’re cool but they should follow my views of things instead of the reason they exist in the game!

          • Karru

            It feels like he has no idea what its the point of sci-fi or fantasy.

          • SilentPony

            There is a massive difference between Orks, that are absurd and know it, and Marines or Sisters who are but don’t.

            Orks think if something has more guns its better, because they believe having more guns is better. Absurd? Yes. Stupid? Yes. In keeping with the established idea of Orks being absurdly stupid? Yes. Checks out.

            Space Marines and Sisters think they’re all super serious, practical minded soldiers, and you can tell who is the most senior and serious by how many candles they have on their backpack. Or by how flared out the wings on their shoulders are. You know, those same shoulders they then try to stealthy sneak through doors and bunkers. While wearing candles. And hoods over their helmets, because well, the helmet isn’t anonymous enough or its just too unfair to use their enhanced vision and they need to give the enemies a chance.

            Orks are supposed to be impractical and absurd in everything they do.
            Sisters and Marines aren’t.

          • Valeli

            If you’re saying it’s not realistic…. sure.

            But neither is having super-soldiers who spit acid and hold three stomachs, and keep fighting when mortally wounded because their armor injects them with stims.

            It’s just the game. And, again, if you don’t like that, cool. But it is what it is.

          • SilentPony

            But where’s the line? That’s my big issue. Why is this thing right here considered Fantasy Gothic Sci-Fi awesome, but that thing over there is just silly?

          • Valeli

            Oh, don’t get me wrong, I consider this just silly too. ^^. But I have fun with it.

            Would love to continue the conversation, it’s probably a good one to have, but have to run out the door. Maybe later if I remember to come back here.

          • SilentPony

            No problem. i have a response to you up above that’s pending(I think ’cause its too long. I don’t use any curse words or anything)
            that I’d love to get a response to if you get around to it.

          • Muninwing

            why are you only drawing the line when it’s women involved? that’s what bothers me about the bewb-corset-armor — the inconsistency.

            Dark Eldar have some bewbs on some of their models. does this offend you quite as much?

          • Muninwing

            but that’s half the point.

            they are so extreme in their mindsets that they do not understand how far across a line they have gone.

            the part of Sisters that has always appealed to me is their insane faith in a god that never wanted their worship. they are an utter perversion of his wishes and ideals, yet they have found power in their own insanity and chalk it up to their devotion.

            that in itself screams grimdark to me.

            so look at the ceremonial attire of the Custodes, or in real life look at parade uniforms. more for show than function. they’re there and through, hitting that point and going out the other side. no different than Garro’s huge eagle chest — utterly impractical, but get a message across.

            it’s so weird to me that so many people will look at the freakinng PAULDRONS of the Astartes and not bat an eye… not even notice that there are no women models for the IG, where there are entire companies of all-women, and more that are mixed-sex… especially from Cadia (while it still exists) where everyone is required to do some form of military service… but raise a weird uncomfortable objection when it’s female models that are even mildly impractical.

          • SilentPony

            As far as Tau go, yeah some of their robots are too block, but some of them aren’t meant to be stealthy. Some are meant to be mobile, thus jump packs and retro thrusters.
            The ones that ARE meant to be stealthy, the stealth suits and ghostkeel, are not overly blocky and have sleek shoulders and armor.

            But i’ll give you yes, the unhelmeted Tau look needs to go. It was a bad idea, poorly implemented.

          • Karru

            Time to use your logic then.

            Tau is dumb as heck. There are bare headed models for guys that are basically blind, totally not practical so its stupid. There is an entire fighting force that uses colour red as their main colour, Farsight Enclave. That would be totally unpractical in a battlefield situation. Those fliers wouldn’t be able to fly due to aerodynamics, it would be ripped apart in seconds after going super sonic which its supposed to be able to do.

            You like Orks, but hate anything unpractical?! You do realise that their explanation why everything they build works is because they BELIEVE IT WORKS! They also are literally very angry Toads. They are walking, talking, face stomping mushrooms. They make bigger and effective guns from duct-taping weapons together. Orks don’t pretend its absurd.

          • Valeli

            “Right up their demonically enhanced absurdity.”

            That’s just the thing though.

            Everything about 40k is absurd. Sisters of battle are no less stylized and absurd than the emperors children, albeit in a slightly different way. Space marines are absurd. The idea of the IG sending countless billions into grinders to their deaths is (tragically) absurd. Orks are patently absurd in nearly every way.

            The whole thing is very tongue in cheek.

          • Haighus

            I think Nids DO likely get energy from the sun. They get biomass to grow, as raw material- the fleets cannot get larger, and become totally overwhelming, without absorbing more raw material, and taking existing biomass is probably more efficient than just absorbing non-organic materials and trying to undergo fusion or something to convert them into biomass.

          • Xodis

            So with all of this lack of “practicality” how can anyone ever claim that another army is too impractical?

          • It’s not your thing. Got it.
            Armoring your opinions in sanctimony doesn’t make you any less of a jerk when you push them on someone else. If you really want to make a stand for women, arguing about 40k is about the least effective use of your time I can think of. If you just are trying to pick a fight on a subject you like to fight about, then arguing about 40k is probably the most effective use of time I can think of.

          • Valeli

            And yet plenty of actual historical armor had sculpted abs, pecs, or other ornamental elements.

            It’s been a thing. No joke.

        • Donald Lindsey

          Female marines have a very strict set of guidelines as to how their hair and makeup are to be worn, and I’ve met quite a few who are downright sexy.

          • SilentPony

            Try telling those that aren’t that they don’t qualify as Marines.
            Oh and also they need to be in high heels and wear cup-less corsets in combat.
            Because its empowering.

          • CMAngelos

            Who says someone must be sexy to be a Sister of Battle either?

            Ever notice they ALL have the same hair, Makeup, Armor, etc.. Like ya-know.. A regimented Uniform?

            Even if it is a ridiculous uniform it IS a uniform and sets Uniform Standards for All of them. So.. where does this “You’re not sexy you cant be XYZ” argument even come from?

          • SilentPony

            They all have the same skin-tone and cup size too, so I guess we’re to assume the dye skin to be tan and surgically enhance breast size.
            For uniformity, of course. Makes them look more like a legit army that way.

          • CMAngelos

            Again you are treating the armor as if it is cloth.
            It is Ceramite POWER ARMOR… So again, what size the girl under it is, Is actually irrelevant. The inside of the armor may be customized to the girl but they all provide the same outward appearance as the Daughters of the Emperor.

          • SilentPony

            How does that work thought? If they’re As, then that’s a lot of hollow armor right there. Bs might fit, but bounce, Cs are fine, and no one is bigger than that.
            ’cause its all the same model, there has to be a level of uniformity because no one is bigger.

            Which could all be solved if they didn’t make armored pockets for breasts, just like they don’t make armored pocket for a Space Marine’s testicles.

          • Karru

            I have some very bad news for you. Everything 40k is pretty much uniform and doesn’t have that much difference between specific armies units.

            All Guardsmen are the exact same height, majority of them are the same face and body type.

            Same thing with Orks, Eldar, Space Marines, Ad Mech, Genestealer Cult etc. It’s almost as if in miniature games it would be unpractical to have literally hundreds of different parts that allow you to make different height, body type etc models.

          • SilentPony

            Eldar Guardians have breastplate for female Eldar without high heels and corsets.

          • CMAngelos
          • SilentPony

            At least they don’t have high heels and corset.

          • Karru

            Go look at the Wraith Constructs and hold on to something.

          • SilentPony

            Yeah, dumb there too.

          • CMAngelos

            So again the question becomes.. If you hate what appears to be 90% of 40k.. Why are you still playing?

          • SilentPony

            The game system is alright. Little clunky, but there’s always a match to be had.
            Popularity is pretty big when it comes to hobbies that need more than 1 person.

          • Valeli

            Will agree to that 100%. GW or Fantasy/40k weren’t my first choice wargame by a longshot.

            But finding a match is about 75% of what matters (more or less depending on your personal approach to the hobby, of course).

            GW’s brick and mortar store support ensuring I’d always have a match is the single biggest reason I went with their system. It’s a huge asset, even in the “digital age”.

          • CatachanCommissar

            HAHAHAHAHHAHA

          • Karru

            But clearly it’s not enough! I mean, what about the breast size issue you were complaining in your last comment? Suddenly gone now?

          • SilentPony

            No, not gone. But more forgivable because their breasts aren’t a central catching feature on their model.
            With the Eldar it looks like the fact they’re women is an addition to the model, not the central feature like it is for the Sisters.
            Banshees less so, but their central point is the flared hair on the helmet and their running stance, but certainly less suggestive and sexualised than the corsets and heels of the Sisters.

          • Valeli

            Because the studio was going for a different look?

            And was trying to spoof a gothy club vibe for sisters?

            I still don’t see the issue. 40k is full of spoofs. Starting with the very idea of space elves, if we’re going to bring up the Eldar.

            If you’re trying to argue that heels and a corset imply a lack of feminism or something, I think you’d find almost everyone in the aforementioned spoofed clubs would disagree. Strongly.

          • CMAngelos

            its called a codpice and some armors do have them. but most of the time they’re surrounded by Ceramite.. and yaknow a couple orders of magnitude smaller than breasts..

            As for the “Empty boob pockets” Its called filled with Protective padding, much like the Under suit they already wear, wich is nearly the same as the Marines body suit they wear (Not speaking of the Black carapace by the way)

          • Muninwing

            umm… pretty sure that codpieces are a historical accuracy. and while it’s not customary for me to go inspecting my models’ junk in great detail, pretty sure there’s no space that’s “smooth like a ken doll” on the average astartes.

            and let me point out that you’re the one who has started the creepy analysis of the breast sizes of your toys. this level of obsession — particularly when applied to one specific line and not all the others — is just plain unhealthy.

          • Valeli

            Cup size, maybe.

            But skin tone? Hey now, that’s up to you.

            I don’t get the whole sexy thing though. I know a lot of people who’d find the miniatures amusing rather than sexy. But if you find them attractive, I see nothing inherently wrong/right with that.

            40k is a very pulpy game. On the whole men don’t tend to resemble spess murines or have the sculpted abs of bronze-age armor either. But what’s the huge deal?

            Are they supposed to be realistic representations of humanity? They’re not. The SoB probably aren’t either. But so what? No one’s making any deep statements about rights or equal pay.

          • Ryan Adams

            The whole point of the sisters having feminine features, boob armor, is so that they look feminine. They are after all the DAUGHTERS of the Emperor. Their armor is a symbol of what they are. Remember if you are gonna talk about who is empowered in 40k just remember, in the Emperor’s view men have to get genetically modified, and look like him, to be the best they can be and women just have to work out.

          • Valeli

            “Remember […], in the Emperors view Men have to get genetically modified, and look like him, to be the best they can be and women just have to work out.”

            Hahaha! This. So much this.

          • Muninwing

            have you actually gotten a look at the old rank-and-file of the metal models? not terribly sexy.

            and how is metal power armor cupless?

            i get it… you’ve got a modest puritanical sentiment. i grew up in New England, so i know something about the prudish puritans and the vestiges of their beliefs that still exist in state laws.

            but by picking on the female models you’re actually setting a huge double-standard. which is its own form of sexism.

      • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

        It’s straight-up boring design, dude. There is so much more they could be doing with the models if they weren’t dedicating a portion of their looks to “Hey, look, we’re women!”.

        • CMAngelos

          Like what exactly?

          • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

            For starters, boob-cups are a massive limitation to adding decorations to the chest plate, since they need to fit on/around the cups. What if they had, say, a cuirass with a sternum coming to a sharp ridge (think the prow of a warship) – for the grunts, this could be left relatively plane, simply used to echo the arched windows of gothic architecture, while for more decorated models, this cuirass could bear an aquilla or skeleton in the style of a ship’s figurehead, small square vents akin to a fortress’s windows, simply the fleur-de-lis etc.

            Currently, they’re limited to “boobs with lines on them”, “boobs with crosses them”, “boobs with spikenipples”, and “skullboobs”.

            And hey, these are just the idle thoughts of one guy, about one part of the armour – think about what amazing stuff the design team could do if they got away from the boob-cups etc – they’re a really limiting canvas!

          • CMAngelos

            None of those are bad ideas however, to me, boobs or not I like the Sisters design because it is simple but elegant at the same time.

            Otherwise GW has a tendency to over complicate details like this guy:

            High chaplain of the Scrolls, of the scrolly-skulls space marines chapter.
            https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8MUyRmghXs8/V87jZ6OmNpI/AAAAAAABHDs/ngeo2Lbsx_sx1jIqlUoKSHh-tMCg-ltOwCLcB/s1600/newchaplain.PNG

          • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

            On the latter point – saying that they could prevent overdesign is a pretty weak positive quality. That, and while overcomplication can negatively impact some centrepiece models, it typically doesn’t spread to the bulk of the army (although this is getting pretty far into the realm of the subjective).

            As for the earlier simple-but-elegant note – yeah, I agree that’s one of the strengths of the design, but my appreciation of those strengths is why I’m disappointed they didn’t take the chance to strengthen those qualities even further.

            There are only so many details one can add to a model before it becomes overburdened, and the “hey guys, look, this model’s a woman!!!!” details aren’t earning their keep.

          • CMAngelos

            Fair point, however I have a feeling this will be an “agree to disagree” type of topic as it really is subjective based on personal taste.

            I will however state that thus far I hear a lot of complaints (especially in the AoS side of things) of models for even basic troopers becoming way too busy as far as detail goes and in some cases I am inclined to agree.

            With the Sisters design, whether you like it or hate it, you know immediately who and what they are even when they are a ‘clean’ design. They stand out much the way i would say Deathwatch or Grey Knights differ from other Marines with Most of their models being not over burdened with details simply detailed differently.

            I would hate to see the sisters lose this quality.

    • OldHat

      You are not familiar with any empowered women, are you? Or do you condemn anything sexual as pertains to women just to sound progressive?

      • SilentPony

        You don’t really know what empowered means, do you?

        • ZeeLobby

          Well duh, it means showing off your boobs! All those “empowered” strippers!

          • SilentPony

            Who knew the Spearmint Rhino was actually a training center for the Adepta Sororitas?!

      • Hawt Dawg

        The word progressive makes me angry.

        Like Hulk angry…

        • OldHat

          You should probably watch less Fox News then.

          • Hawt Dawg

            Don’t watch mainstream media. I have yet to fall for the brainwashing.

            Yes, yes, being white auto-makes me a murderous nazi who feeds on living puppies.

          • OldHat

            So much projection, so little time.

          • CatachanCommissar

            You sound like a barrel of fun.

          • OldHat

            Hah! I hilariously live in North Carolina. And happen to be a barrel of fun, but you must not read my comments here often. Just ask ZeeLobby. 😀

          • CatachanCommissar

            I go to wilmington nc every year! I trust Zee, so now you and I are best friends. Let’s all make out. Triple kiss.

          • Hawt Dawg

            Burn my face! I hate my race?

    • Evil Otto

      Oh good, a “boob plate” argument. Haven’t seen that before.

      #firstworldproblems

    • Darth Bumbles

      I’m kind of hoping Greyfax kills a Daemon by kicking it in the throats with her heel…. and turns to her offsider and says “I told you they were more than just decorative”.

      • SilentPony

        Yeah but its just as likely she charges Abbaddon, trips over a rock, tumbles and blows her own head off with her boltpistol. Abaddon laughs so hard he calls off the entire invasion because nothing he does will ever be more embarrassing or hurtful than Battle Sisters in heels.

        • Darth Bumbles

          She’s an Inquisitor though, terribly impractical is their modus operandi.

    • Bayne MacGregor

      It’s an Underbust Corset, a very common form of corset.

  • Spacefrisian

    But what about the basic battle sisters, the one with boots (or heels) in the dirt. The actuall backbone of a Battle sister army, where are those pics?

    • ZeeLobby

      They’re coming! And anyone who thinks otherwise I’ll call names!

      • orionburn

        Being rude on the intranets? Shocking I say!

        • ZeeLobby

          It’s a scary world out there :D.

  • Heinz Fiction

    If I compare Celestine and her companions to the Sisters from Raging Heroes they look a little underwhelming. But at least some new plastics…

    • CMAngelos

      Pin-up Apples to In Setting Oranges as far as that’s concerned, In my opinion.

      • ZeeLobby

        Er… This is a pretty amazing model by comparison.
        http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7888c3fb4c6c6e28efea6f06e179a412cddba55a7eac8cb16a57366365ca3219.jpg

        Still has silly birds, but wutevs.

        • Lion El’ Jonson

          I got a few Void elves from them, and their quality is amazing. That being said, Gw’s Celestine would be less of a chore to paint the Erzebel, and she looks good to me.

          Funnily enough Gw’s Magos has put me off, because of all the stuff I’d have to paint on him.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha. It’s odd that his detail is all very to one side as well.

        • Heinz Fiction

          Yeah thats the Celestine stand-in model I was thinking of. I’m not complaining that the new Soros aren’t as sexy (though I wouldn’t mind), but they just look kinda boring (and difficult to transport in one piece…)

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. I’m just not a fan of the scrolls. They’re too big and bulky in comparison to the proportions of the models themselves. I actually liked the pose of the old model where it looks like she’s levitating slightly off the ground.

            But, all new GW models are competing to be the tallest, so I guess it was to be expected. And I’m not saying in anyway that the Raging Heroes model wouldn’t be tall, it’s just a good example that they do make great models that aren’t just “pin-ups”.

          • Muninwing

            i’m concerned about the snappage. those scrolls look all pretty until they have to actually support a model and be used in a game.

            hm. the same argument about the ornamentation of “bewb plate” only done more practically. and yet not creating quite so much indignation and outrage…

          • ZeeLobby

            yeah, for me it’s almost always transport. We rotate around houses and stores, and I just see that thing snapping at some point.

          • Muninwing

            i played Dark Eldar back in 3rd-4th, and the Raiders were terrible about not breaking off of their bases. when i started a new Wych-cult army (that became utterly unuseable in 5th), i came up with a method of magnetizing the flight stands.

            if i’d just have to use a small flight-stand anyway with them, i don’t get the point of the ribbons. it’s a required conversion waiting to happen.

        • Badgerboy1977

          Neither the pose nor the face do it for me and the wings are far too overpowering in my opinion, also doesn’t fit the sisters aesthetic as far as I’m concerned.

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean I’m not saying that it’s right for everyone, but it’s a good model, and very dynamic (more so than the GW one) and it’s definitely not what most people would consider a “pin-up”. My issue with the new one is how close she looks to the sisters flying next to her. In the age of GW embellishment they held back (well if you ignore the flock of birds and massive scrolls).

          • Badgerboy1977

            No I wouldn’t say “pin up” which is definitely something I dislike in many minis (far too sexualised often) and the detail looks to be good but I actually don’t really see it as being dynamic more a confused collection of components to my eye. Again highly subjective of course.

          • ZeeLobby

            I got you. I can see that. To me it looks like she’s calling a prayer, or calling down a blessing. GW’s on the other hand, looks like she’s presenting a target, or about to Superman eye-laser something, lol.

          • Badgerboy1977

            For me it’s more of an ascension pose from a religious piece of art, imagine her surrounded by a bright light for example. Not saying its the most dynamic mini GW have ever made but still looks great to me.

          • ZeeLobby

            Should have made her looking up then, into the heavens, or down, at the mortals below. She’s just kind of staring into space, like a deer in headlights, haha.

          • Badgerboy1977

            She’s looking at her foes across from her in battle though surely rather than “into space”, not something that Jesus etc had to face in the stories as far as I’m aware.

          • ZeeLobby

            Well then they better release some other tall models so they can see eye to eye :D. I mean you just mentioned ascension, and most ascensions have the ascended looking up or down. Gives the subject a sense of motion, or add some depth to their character. Are they pitying those below them, or excitedly facing their heaven. She’s more Doctor Manhattaning and charging her lazer, lol.

          • Badgerboy1977

            Ascension as in the pose just to give a sense of her divinity not literally ascending to a higher plane which would seem pointless in battle, also all you need is her enemies to be the other side of a field or ravine (just a little further away and she’d look like that) or on a slight rise or maybe a large demon or mechanical construct of some kind. I don’t see it as an issue personally.

          • ZeeLobby

            Error

          • Heinz Fiction

            GW’s looks like she smoked something funny a minute ago…

          • ZeeLobby

            DEFINITELY on Slo-Mo.

          • Muninwing

            “pin-up” is sexualized. it’s the whole point of pin-ups. it’s what they were for. if they aren’t sexualized, it’s not a pin-up.

            that said, i often find them boring or trying to hard. as much as the actual game of Kingdomdeath looks really neat, their volume of pin-up models being what you saw first in their kickstarter convinced me to not bother.

          • Badgerboy1977

            Yes I do realise that pin up is in itself sexualised, I was referring to the pin up style models themselves rather than the style (could have worded it better possibly) and I agree they tend to lack imagination quite often.

          • Muninwing

            alright, in other words we look at it in much the same way.

    • Badgerboy1977

      Not a fan myself, much prefer GW’s take but beauty is subjective of course.

  • Sonic tooth

    Realy like the sisters and mechanicum. Not sold on the inquisitor yet. Love saint celestine. Hope they dont kill her off……beautiful mini. Really cant understant why daemon primarchs woukd take orders from abbadon.

    • Lion El’ Jonson

      Well it is said by some that Abbadon killed Fulgrim. He went against his own daddy and won. Abbadon pretty much is I dare say above their level in terms of infuence with the traitor legions, if maybe not quite in power

      • ZeeLobby

        :O, when did fulgrim die?

        • Lion El’ Jonson

          It’s not confirmed his dead, there was a rumour during the legion wars that Abbadon killed Fulgrim. Emperors Children will vehemently deny this happening, and will most likely kill you on sight if they hear ya saying it.

          • Sonic tooth

            Thats awful fluff if its true lol. Abbadon is still a space marine at the end of the day?

          • Lion El’ Jonson

            Abbadon has done a lot of things since the heresy. He’s so much more then a simple space marine, and yet he’s still himself even after all the years in hell. I suggest reading Talon of Horus, it really shows what exactly happened with Ezekiel during the legion wars.

          • ZeeLobby

            Def a good book.

          • Sonic tooth

            Ill get to it eventually….i still reckon sigismund could have taken him down one on one (but obviously that didnt happen)

          • Sigismund v Abaddon is coming in The Black Legion, sequel to Talon of Horus, coming in late summer 2017. Abaddon wins, obviously.

          • Abaddon made the daemon born from the first human murder his servant. That thing wounded the Emperor bitterly. He took out cloned Primarchs and made the real ones kneel.

          • Emperor’s Champion

            Fulgrim died the day he set foot on Laeran 🙁 lol

          • Kefka

            He was the one who truly died on Isstvan V, if you think about it 🙁

          • He reclaimed his body and ascended.

          • ZeeLobby

            Eh. Would be a good way to remove scantily clad slaanesh from 40K.

          • As per Fabius Bile: Primogenitor, Fulgrim is still on his lonesome but sending various daemons to take warnings to Fabius. The daemons are eager to mock Fulgrim with Bile’s disregard for his gene-father.

  • DeCold

    Okay GW with the name like this, you have to deliver us new plastic renegade guardsmen with new codex.

    • Sebastien Bazinet

      Or at least some better cultists boxes. Would like to see a dual kit of Renegade guards with cultists

  • GiftoftheMagi

    While I think the Mechanicus model is WAY overdone, the rest are fine if with too much gold on the Sisters and not enough color on the Inquisitor.

    However, not even the news about the rebooted Eye Of Terror campaign is as big as the idea that we MIGHT get a Nercomunda version for Dark Eldar.

    • OldHat

      Overdone? Sir, have you read any fiction for the AdMech? This guy is par for the course for a high level Magos.

      • ZeeLobby

        Eh, aesthetics are subjective. I can definitely see how the model might be less confusing as a subject with maybe half of the little tubes all over.

        • Lion El’ Jonson

          ….I fear taking my brush to that…and I am actually a good painter!

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha. yeah. Definitely daunting. Looks like a good blast of silver and picking out some bobbles here and there should do a pretty good job. I can’t imagine anyone going NMM on this guy though, haha.

        • Badgerboy1977

          To be fair he was talking about the fluff rather than aesthetic opinion and in that respect he fits perfectly given the descriptions and art.

          • ZeeLobby

            Right, but he’s using fluff to question his description of “overdone”. I was simply justifying why he might say something like that.

      • GiftoftheMagi

        Since Rogue Trader. He is and isn’t. Some of the High Magi are so heavily modified that to call them human is laughable. However, this model feels too random to be one. Even in the craziest situations, the modifications have a purpose. Too much on this model feels “Yeah stick something more there. That looks cool!”. It just doesn’t sing to me.

    • Badgerboy1977

      For me he’s amongst the best minis I’ve seen and I absolutely can’t wait to put paint brush to him, each to their own though of course but he does also fit with the fluff perfectly.

      • GiftoftheMagi

        For me, detail is fine as long as it serves a purpose. Some of the detail and extra parts of the Mechanicus model seem to just be random, to the point it’s hard for me to understand what they are or what they do. After a while it becomes a bit much. So yeah, not impressed.

    • Brian Griffith

      If your main qualms are regarding paint jobs, that’s an easy problem to fix.

      • GiftoftheMagi

        Oh yes it is. I already have several ideas. NONE of them use the color gold.

  • Nyyppä

    Does this mean that the legions get another update that also combines all the rest of the supplements, you know, one that has more than one playable legion….like maybe 9?

  • Laurence J Sinclair

    And the actual Community article makes a direct reference to the bin joke regarding Celestine. This may be the limit of plastic Sisters, guys.

    • ZeeLobby

      “Nu uh. It’s scientifically proven!”

  • Solaq

    Well this news explains Codex: Imperial Agents.

  • Horus84cmd

    You’ve got to hand it to GW. They may be late to the game in terms community engagement and the internet, after dropping the ball a decade ago….but BOY! (or GIRL!) are they showing how its done!

    Arguably, putting other competitors to shame at the same time and showing certain gaming blog sites how blogs are done too.

    • ZeeLobby

      By leaking updates of future releases that most other systems tell their players of months in advance?

      • Horus84cmd
        • ZeeLobby

          Haha. I’m not saying YOU can’t be happy. I just find the “showing them how it’s done” and novelty vibe funny and misplaced.

          • Horus84cmd

            Haha fair play. Like many thing in life it can be oh so easy for brains to go the negatives. I like to try and congratulate the positives.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha, no doubt. These are huge positive steps in the right direction. I just can’t reward them yet, I want them to go further. Rules discussions, design decisions, a forum, etc. Get it to the level other games have gotten to. They’ve started dipping their toes in such things, which I’m greatful for.

          • Hawt Dawg

            Be careful!

            The better they get at it, the harder it will be for you justify your internet existance.

            Unless you are after Privateer Press next…

          • ZeeLobby

            Honestly I’d probably go back to lurking. I’d probably just visit for rumors as I’d be too busy writing new and creative lists and playing with my friends and at my LGS. I mean that’s what I did before the abomination that was 6th. Before I felt the need to go out into the great desert and bring law to the lawless. To show the ignorant their unknowing ways!

          • Hawt Dawg

            If you leave my reason for being on the internet dies.

            A great fisherman must catch his pikes… 😉

          • ZeeLobby

            Well then you must start to undermine the great GW machine!

          • Hawt Dawg

            Ten forth!

            Great hatred mode activated!

  • Derek Lee

    I wonder if there is the possibility that Cadia will break apart from all the crazyness and bombardment to make something like the Dark Angel’s “The Rock”.

  • I want that magos, but my mechanicus are dark mechanicus so it feels weird taking a naked character. Amazing sculpt though. I love Celestine, she’s so much more subdued than say the flying stormcast dude with gal maraz.

    The inquisitor is great, although I could do without the boob plate and the heels

    • ZeeLobby

      I almost wish she had more detail. Besides the birds, and scrolls, and tosh, I kind of wish her armor was a little more embellished. Something to make her stand out (besides being taller, haha).

    • Mr.Gold

      great Magos, heres hoping they will do Archmagos Kotov (G. McNeil Mars Trilogy) Next…

  • Xodis

    Anyone notice we still haven’t seen confirmation of the green orb looking leak yet?

    • ZeeLobby

      The ones with souls in it? I’m pretty sure it’s the Tzaangor pic in the video. It looks to be in the center of the disc he’s riding on. I’m assuming the cloak in the dirt is that of a new changer of ways (hopefully).

      • Xodis

        I must have missed that, well than….. kind of hoping for something more…. lol

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah. I imagine they’re holding a lord of change in their back pocket. At least I hope they are.

  • Frey Jepson

    Black Legion! Of course that means this time an endless host of most every faction of chaos.

  • Hot_Dog_Heretic

    The transmission is from a penal colony. That could mean penal troops!

  • Amon-Alex69

    Ok next “big” mini a new Abaddon ? Hyped me so much !

  • SilentPony

    Wonder if its anything like the Fall of Medusa or 13th Black Crusade where they just retconn it in the next edition for being too exciting…

  • Baldrick

    Black and Gold………Legion of the Damned are going to arrive on mass and kick everyone’s behinds, backsides, etc………. I think the narrator is color blind……the cleansing flames of the Damned can sparkle like gold……..with that black armour.

  • Eric Etheridge

    Honestly I want to see some nonsexy ladies from GW but not for any of the reasons most people have.
    My reasoning is that its boring. Not quite as boring as twenty groups of space marines, but, boring nonetheless.

    • Xodis

      I think we have differing views of sexy lol. Sure the armor accents or even highlights their psychical female characteristics, but other than that….they are pretty meh.

      • Valeli

        What kind of sick man doesn’t get turned on by a bob. It’s almost as if you’re not living in the 1960’s.

        Madness I tell you, madness.

        (As an aside, I’d argue that the bob look most sisters are sporting is inspired from Jeanne d’Arc… which is a reasonably fitting inspiration).

        • Xodis

          Dude, I have NEVER gotten turned on by a bob lol

          • Valeli

            hahaha, right?

            There’s someone for everyone though. Someone for everyone.

  • Valeli

    I don’t like the wings on Celestine. Way too AoS inspired (and I don’t like the wings there either). Taste is subjective and all though, so I’m sure some will love it. (And I am glad it more or less proves a new book is coming out that will re-include her, unlike the current IA abomination).

    What I /do/ love is plastic minis for the SoB!

    I like the other seraphim as well. The wing thing bothers me much less when it’s just ~5 strips on a stylized jump pack and, what’s more, it’s like I’ve been saying for a long time now: new seraphim are the /perfect/ models to showcase just how far GW’s models have come. These are quite nice.

    I’ll not be repurchasing my entire army – not until I see what the next edition does with the rules at least. But this is a squad I’ll absolutely be picking up stat.

    Good on you GW. Thanks (at last, but still).

  • Dumbcow1

    Black Templars and Sisters at the gates of Cadia. Nothing is more Templary than our massive fleet meeting Abandon head on!! We all know Helbrecht is unrivaled in fleet command, not to mention a living saint fighting by our side! No pity, no remorse, no fear!!!!!

    • Grumpy Scot

      Huron Blackheart’s services may be required!

  • Carey_Mahoney

    Stormcast Sisters of Battle

    • Valeli

      Yeah….. yeah 🙁

    • kloosterboer

      Right!? Fantastic!

    • Daniel Hall

      Oh you mean they look EXACTLY as they always looked….?

      Its plastic versions of the same models.

      • Carey_Mahoney

        Not quite.

  • Malisteen

    I hope we get a new Abaddon model. It was a little disappointing in Fantasy’s end times that the big bad of that ark didn’t get his new model release until well after it was over. Hopefully they’re a bit more on-the-ball this time. It would be a shame to be stuck with the shrimpy old outdated abaddon model through the whole 13th crusade.

    • TheWanderingJewels

      Failbaddon the Armless is Perfect. Grandfather Nurgle says so

      • Malisteen

        Old memes are old. What is this, the Ellen Degeneres show?

  • dinodoc

    Age of Emperor is coming. 🙁

    • kloosterboer

      It so is! Prepare to have your faith tested…

    • BRING IT.

  • Carl Frieder Kathe

    The female Inquisitor with the Repeat Crossbow with Barrel Magazine is great!

  • You know, the boobs could be just made out of foam to show that it is a female warrior. This assumes at some point we get past the feminine is weak thing and stop forcing female soldiers to look as masculine as possible.
    If you don’t like it, that’s fine. Trying to use “science” to explain your position on a fantasy sci-fi mash up set over 38,000 years in the future seems to be a tad OCD.

    • Haighus

      I was thinking this, that the breasts don’t have to impair the functionality of the armour much, as the true breastplate can be beneath them. Obviously, there will still be a weight and mobility cost, but then that would be less than some of the other impractical stuff all over 40k.

      • euansmith

        Not bwoobs, but shaped charges?

  • Thalandor

    Holy cow that Inquisitor Greyfax. Best GW model I’ve seen since forever. Must have…

  • DeadlyYellow

    That inquisitor looks like a pretentious steampunk cosplayer.

  • Joe

    I absolutely love these minis.

  • Chris Stevens

    the crossbow in question, is probably a Condemnor Bolter. a 1 shot crossbow that causes a perils of the Warp test against psychers.

  • MechBattler

    I’m sorry plastic sisters naysayers, is that a plastic Celestine and Seraphim?
    WOOT! WOOT!

    And Inquisitor Greyfax looks badass too.

  • Mud_Duck

    Geminae Superia? I wonder if these are replacement Seraphim, a new unit (body guards?), or what? hmmm.. Does this bode well for the return of the flying nun of doom?
    “What do you mean, We can’t copyright Serphim? Bob, I guess we’re going to have to go with your latineze constellation naming guide. That’s right take the constellation names and add ae to the end of them.”

    Not sure if I like the backpacks on the Geminae, I guess if those are the new normal for Seraphim i guess I could use them for the Superiors and the metal ones for the regular.

    So they’ve finally given Celestine wings, guess we can put that argument to bed, thou I’m not sure I’m sold on the model. The pictures and paint job kinda make the model look ‘meh’ to me, should be nice to see what a better paint job/ pictures do for the model

    • Reven

      Personally I think it’s more likely Celestine’s guards since they were painted to match her when previous Seraphim would be painted with their armor being black with red cloth like the rest of their order.

  • Shawn

    I may want Belsarious for my admech, but I don’t think I need a whole campaign book.