40K RUMORS: There is a 3rd Triumverate


The rumormongers are speaking about what to look for AFTER the Eldar book wraps up…

So far it’s been crazy year.  It’s still January and we’ve gotten Fall of Cadia with the first Triumvirate of Imperial heroes:



February will pick up the story with the Eldar and their own 2nd Triumverate of minis:

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The 3rd Triumverate ?

Which has everyone wondering – what’s next.  Starting last year with Eldrad, GW has been on a tear updating ancient IC minis with new fancy ones. Heck Ahriman got TWO (30k/40k) minis last year. A lot of people have been noting that the entire theme of Gathering Storm is Abaddon’s 13th Black Crusade. Then of course we get the cover of the January White Dwarf:



Now let’s note that a certain someone has an absolutely ancient mini that has been around since the 2ND EDITION Chaos Codex!  This mini is from 1996! If Abaddon was born in Texas his mini could legally drink now!


“I’ll take an appletini please – what are you looking at?!”

But today comes word that the powers of Chaos will get their due.  Old timer rumor-monger Mikhael says:


Urkanthos, (pre-Daemon-prince)

~The plot thickens…

  • petrow84

    Wishlist for the 4th: Ghazgkull, Nazdreg and The Beast (or Tuska, the Daemon Killa)

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Wishlist for the 5th: Old One Eye, the Red Terror and Deathleaper

    • Lord Elpus

      Rather have Orkimedes in there myself!

    • Atharius

      Didn’t they eventually learn that The Beast was just a group of Alpha orks? Or was there a single big guy at the end? That series got so repetitive.

      • petrow84

        Yup, it was, it would be just awesome to see some 30 feet high ork monstrosity – a true avatar of Gork (or Mork).

        • kingcobra668

          Was it a group of orks or one big one?


          • petrow84

            Both. It was the conglomeration of a group of prime orks, if I remember correctly.

      • Emprah

        It was a group of big guys , one for each clan. They were even bigger than Ghazgkull, whose name apparently means “I am slaughter” too.

        • Atharius

          Yeah they made them seem impossibly big. The first time they go to Ullanor a single Alpha wipes out the entire team of terminators and the last Imperial Fist. Second time to Ullanor it takes a Primarch ‘dying’ just to kill one. THIRD time to Ullanor yet another alpha wrecks an entire terminator kill team. When they said they were going back to Ullanor for a third time I almost stopped reading right then and there. The Imperium is anything if not hard-headed.

          • Jared van Kell

            You have to admire their tenacity.

    • kaptinscuzgob

      id like Orkimedes to make an appearance

    • Karru

      It’s more likely that the Ork one would be Ghazgkull, Mad Dok Grotsnik and possibly Orkimedes. Thus far both “Group sets” are core leaders of their faction(s). The great WAAAAGH!! that Ghazghkull is gathering right now is supposed to be the one starting Ragnaork. It makes more sense that the characters involved in it are those that Ghazghkull has commanded from the very beginning.

      • gserhar

        I’d almost give my left arm for a new Ghazgkull. Not that I think the old/current one is a bad or outdated scuplt, because it’s not. It’s just way, WAY too small to properly reflect how huge he should appear on the tabletop, IMO.

        • Vorropohaiah

          i’sure a new Ghazgkull will be crazy big to the point that half the internet will complain he;s too big 🙂 can’t wait 🙂

          • euansmith

            A Knight Titan sized Ork Warlord? Sign me up 😀 I guess one could be kit-bashed from something like Glotkin.

          • Karru

            There is always a limit for what is considered “too big”. Cawl is on the edge, but still acceptable. Ghazghkull should be around the size of a Deff Dread at most, anything bigger than that would be “too big”.

        • Benjamin E

          I’m waiting for the Gathering Storm book about the Black Templar/Armageddon Steel Legion crusade catching up with Ghazgkull, who was too much of a weedy git to stick it out on Armageddon and finish the fight there!

          • amaximus167

            And I am waiting for Angron to come back to Armageddon while the BT and SL are off on some silly fools crusade…

          • Karru

            Ghazghkull was actually getting bored/having visions from Gork and Mork. That’s why he left and is now building the largest WAAAAGH!! Imperium has yet to see, eclipsing even the horde Beast gathered. This WAAAAGH!! is supposed to start the Ragnaork, an event that brings Gork and Mork into real space.

      • Jared van Kell

        I can see Armageddon falling but to a dual invasion of both Angron and Ghazgkull, neither of whom will be willing to work with or back down from the other. Either way it is going to be bad day for the Imperial forces on that world.

        • Adam Murray

          He’s tiny compared to the new mega boss from AoS

          • Jared van Kell

            Which is why he is likely to get a new model. Back when his current model was released he was one of the biggest figures going but he has since been eclipsed several times over.

        • Karru

          I highly doubt that Ghazghkull would come back to Armageddon or at least at the same time as Angron would. Considering that Ghazghkull is currently somewhere on the galaxy’s edge considering that he is fighting Tyranids, I highly doubt that he will make it to Armageddon in time before Angron sweeps it. I can see Angron returning to Armageddon for round two.

          • Jared van Kell

            However I can see that he would not take someone else trying to conquer Armageddon very well since he has promised to return and conquer it once and for all. Not only that but I think he would jump at the chance to take on Angron by interrupting his invasion with one of his own.

    • Mr_Pickles

      With the constant fighting of Tuska and his Waagh, they should be pretty big by now…

      • petrow84

        And very skilled in killing daemons.

    • Infamous Wendigo

      Gutzmek Wazdakka needs to return as well…

      • petrow84

        Wazdakka’s Super waagh highway with Nazdreg’s tellyporta gubbinz = ork shock-waaghs around the Universe!

    • Drew_Da_Destroya

      Ghazghkull, Nazdreg, and Makari!

    • benn grimm

      Definitely Tuska…

  • Grudir

    Abaddon sure. And, hey, a new Chaos character could be sweet. But Urkanthos? He’s just some rando Khorne Daemon Prince who barely managed to pull off the one job he had, and (Gathering Storm Spoilers) got cacked and managed to get the entire Hounds of Abaddon wiped out for good measure. Here’s to hoping it’s literally anyone else.

    • Bearpunlawl

      Please… Anything but yet more khorne stuff… If we get a triumverate with a khorne daemon prince I will be so dissapointed… If GW had a flag it would be blue, gold and red by now.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        Have you not seen the truck load of Tzeench stuff GW dumped on us recently?

        • Bearpunlawl

          ofcoarse I have and it’s a good thing. But there is no denying that both gw and forgeworld have had a weird khorne crush for the longest time. would be very pleasing to see undevided or some 40k nurgle or slaanesh stuff

          • WolfStar

            Blood for the blood god!

          • Rainthezangoose

            *laughs like a mad man* slannesh?! Haha that would be the day *wipes tear from eye*

          • Ella Laszlo

            who knows…. i mean… eldar is the next thing so its only natural to bring in Slaanesh for a full service in the workshop.

          • Bearpunlawl

            Yeah… I’m a nurgle fan and seeing how little attention slaanesh has gotten makes me sad that my god will probably be the last to see some attention xD

          • Ella Laszlo

            Lord Ma’mon will bless us in time.
            waiting on new sisters models as well.. sisters of nurgle to serve the Lord of Life

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            Most of Slaanesh’s range is in plastic. All Slaanesh needs is a new Greater Daemon and a Fiend model.

          • amaximus167

            And Emperor’s Children.

          • Vladamyr

            having just bought an entire armies worth of metal Slaanesh models, and spent countless hours converting them with some of the new plastic kits, I am fearing and almost certain they are going to kill Slaanesh. Cuz that would be just my luck.

          • Darth Bumbles

            Even in AoS which is currently mysteriously Slaaneshless, the worshippers of Slaanesh still exist. I can’t imagine GW Squatting any army these days. At worst you’ll just lose any daemons from your army list IMO.

          • kingcobra668

            Yeah, but it really just seems like you’re parroting an internet meme about hating khorne. Pretty repetitive and weird itself.

          • Emprah

            Enjoy the new mobile game, Khorne Krush. It is like candy crush but with hearts and skulls and blood.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            Daemon Princes cannot be Undivided any more. 🙁

          • Darth Bumbles

            What about Daemon Primarchs? Both Lorgar and Perturabo are Undivided.

  • Badgerboy1977

    Given the incredible quality of the triumvirate’s so far I can’t wait to see what they do with a chaos one.

  • SisyphusIsHappy

    I hope its all new Chaos. Abbadon still needs a new mini yeah, but holy hell give us new people or hell expand some of the other characters you have even. Everything is Abaddon this and Abbadon that! So bored of Abbadon!

    • kingcobra668

      Its HIS 13th black crusade….

      • Reven

        It’s not like he does it all alone though.

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          But he is the Big Cheese and he desperately needs a new model.

          • Reven

            Oh absolutely, however I can understand if someone got sick of hearing about him all the time and want to hear of other/new chaos characters.

      • Pedwidge

        Go Abaddon, it’s your cru-sade!

      • SisyphusIsHappy

        We have been hearing of almost no one but HIM for 20 years now. Yes, he needs a new model, but I don’t really need a new rehash of “Zomg he is gonna do the vengeance to teh Imerperium!!1” for the thousandth time. Okay, I get it, he feels wronged and even though he is the arch villain of the setting, he feels he is in the right and wants to shatter and rule the Imperium of man. They need to either progress his character or bring in some new faces. If he’s one of the triumvirate for Chaos and the all other factions get brand new characters, that sucks. I am glad he is doing something now, but geez, the Black Legion and the Cult Legions are really the only Legions that get ANY air time, and even then mostly World Eaters and the Black Legion, with Thousand Sons more recently. There are four other legions that may get novels but never really see major action. That is what I mean. The Black Crusade is the event where Abaddon manages to get the Legions allied to smash the Imperium. So where is the glory for the other Legions? Heck I would almost be fine with Death Guard or Emperor’s Children, cause they have had no face time as of late either.

    • Brian Zaspel

      I would be fine with this if he got his own box like Ahriman on the disk.

    • Vladamyr

      I agree with this, also there are other important things going on in the universe during the black crusade. unless it has been retcon’d the Night Lords are about to go beat up the eldar…let get a NL model…..i may be a bit biased though

  • TenDM

    Gathering Storm looks like it’s going to last a while with a bunch of other factions getting a box like this. If that’s the case I’m guessing Abaddon will be the final one. Either that or second to last, with Abaddon kicking the Imperium down and then somehow the Imperium gets a ‘we lost Cadia but won something else’ victory and the final set of minis.

    • amaximus167

      I feel like the GW guys in the video said this plot was going to last through 2018 at least.

  • Darth Bumbles

    Maybe Warlord Kossalax is going to be Abby’s more competent general bucking for his job as Warhampster?

  • Andy Wise

    a triumverate of triumverates eh? A good Abaddon would sell like hotcakes I’ve no doubt. Also “I’ll take an appletini please – what are you looking at?!” bravo sir, that’s what I come to BOLS for 🙂

    • Ebsolom

      I imagined that line with a Geordie accent : )

  • Andrew

    Seems like they’re pushing for new characters with this whole thing. I’d be surprised if Abby was in one of those boxes. Sure, Celestine was, but I think they’ll put him in his own box myself.

  • Karru

    As long as Abaddon remains mortal, I’ll be fine with the rest. If it was up for me to decide what it includes, I’d rather go with Typhus as one of the characters. As I am currently not super familiar with the Gathering Storm lore, is the Typhus Plague Fleet still floating around with Abaddon?

    • Severius_Tolluck

      It was pivotal in bringing down some of the harder defenses!

      • Karru

        A smart move by GW would be to make the Chaos leader box have Abaddon and 4 Lords, each one representing one of the gods. Basically the old Lords of the Black Crusade formation from Apocalypse.

        • Severius_Tolluck

          I agree.

        • amaximus167

          Was just having a text conversation with a friend about this.

          • Karru

            Considering that CSM still lacks “good” sculpts for god specific Chaos Lords, it would be the smartest thing to do. Also, considering that this is a Chaos centric event, giving them a kit with 5 HQs doesn’t sound that bad to me. It would also be extremely great move by GW to make them part of the 4 “cults” within Black Legion. Basically allow them to make certain units as Troops or allow taking Marks for free. The key thing here is the fact that you have to be Black Legion to use them. So you cannot take the Nurgle Lord in a Death Guard Detachment and give all your Death Guard units free Marks of Nurgle.

          • amaximus167


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  • thereturnofsuppuppers

    Make Abaddon a giant Daemon Prince! MAKE HIM HUGE

    • Chiwawa

      Well with all these new huge models I would not be surprised
      The dakkadakka factions would be happy 😛
      I am really curios to see the size of the models of the loyalist Primarchs.
      Will they be dwarfed by their daemoniac brothers or will they have grown a few inches in the millennia 😛

  • Stephen Pearson

    Warlord Kossalax is presumably Kossolax the Foresworn -http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kossolax

  • Nyyppä

    At this point it would be wiser to just kill of the CSM as a faction and make chaos all about daemons.

    • euansmith

      But Marines will continue to fall to the siren call of sweet, sweet Chaos; so the supply of Chaos Marines should be pretty infinite.

      • Nyyppä

        Not fast enough. 😄

  • ZeeLobby

    Uh. It’s def Chaos.

    • euansmith

      “def Chaos”? KAOZ ORKZ!!! 😉

      • Desmond Burke

        Stormboyz of Khorne!

  • Alvin Adorno

    Great unclean one, thypus, plague marines and terminators.

  • 6Cobra

    So, two Khorne characters in the Triumvirate? Because we didn’t have any of those already.

  • Badtucker

    im sure this was debunked…also Urkanthos was killed.

  • Vorropohaiah

    How about good old Fabius?

    I’d love to see a modern interpretation of him and a squad of his goons

    • Karru

      Problem with that comes from the fact that Fabius doesn’t give a single flying F about the 13th Black Crusade nor listens to Abaddon. Abaddon on the other hand most likely knows Fabius’ reputation too well and won’t hire him.

      It would be a nice addition to the game. Make him similar to Celestine and give him a couple “extra wounds” in the form of the bodyguard experimentals.

  • euansmith

    “Warlord Kossalax (Ed. no idea???)”

    I think it is a misprint; any self respecting Choas Lord should obviously be called “Warlord Kolossalaxe”.

  • Ravingbantha

    Like I said yesterday, it’ll be some Old Ones, who make peace with the Necrons, admit they made (and thus have a way to control) Orks and Tau, and some way to communicate with and ally with the tyranids. This way they can lump all them under one faction.

  • grim

    I will pee my pants a new abbadon comes out…

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Prepare to despoil your pants!

  • NoNameMonster

    isn’t the next triumvirate going to be: Vect, Sylandri Veilwalker, and a psychic wraithlord?

    or is that one not happening now? 😉

  • Diagoras

    Oh joy. Abbadon and two Khorne characters. How interesting and fun. Definitely not wasting an opportunity to bring in significant and beloved characters that still need models.

    I was hoping for something more along the lines of a Triumvirate of Chaos Undivided, with Abbadon, Erebus or Kor Phaeron, and Honsou or the Warsmith (daemon Barban Falk).

    • Severius_Tolluck

      Id say abbadon, Fabius, and Typhus!

  • Defenestratus

    You know who else have been around since 2nd edition? All the f**king phoenix lords. You think GW would want to update those? Give us some new sculpts? Hahaha silly you for thinking that GW would give us what we want.

    I’m just saying Chaos players (as you’re already aware) – don’t get your hopes up.

    • deris87

      You jez jelly cuz Ynnead so fine.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Oh ok, I’m sorry you don’t like the three new awesome models that the Eldar are getting.

  • Roughneck

    If it was going to contain a new Abaddon model wouldnt it have most likely been absurely pictured in the fall of Cadia photos rather than the old one?

    • Severius_Tolluck

      Well.. youd think the st Celestine would be in the agents of imperium that was released the month prior then?

      • Roughneck

        No as that codex isn’t meant to be used that way, as a sole army book but more a add this elite strike force unit codex. She was omitted purposely to be in the Fall of Cadia book and boxed set. Plus she was in the Digital Codex still, GW explained all this with the codexes release.

        • Severius_Tolluck

          And your point? What this means, just as it was in End times, just as it was in the constant battle tomes of Aos…GW will release it when they feel like it and show it to you when they wish. Most likely it will be in book three.

          • Roughneck

            This isn’t the End of Times though is it? Also, he would be in Last Chance to buy now if it were the case? It’s not when they feel like it, they plan it 3 months at least in advance now to coincide with White Dwarf.
            My point is your Imperial Agents Codex point is worthless and doesn’t contribute to what I said.

          • Karru

            I am not exactly sure about your logic here. Are you saying that arguing that Celestine didn’t appear in any of the Imperial Agents photos isn’t the same thing as Abaddon not appearing in the Gathering Storm? It is extremely likely that Abaddon is getting a release, GW just wants to hide it as long as possible for the “LOOKATTHISOMGBUYITNOW” to maximise the shock buying.

          • Roughneck

            I meant she wasn’t in the book at all and wasn’t intended to be in it ever. Really like the Eldar character seen in the photos for Fall of Cadia.
            The reason she wasnt it the Imperial Agents book was dual fold as she was technically Dead before being reborn for the Fall Of Cadi hence not being in the Codex when it was released.
            Nothing to do with shock buying, if Abaddon was getting a new release soon he would be in the last chance to buy like Celestine was before she was released, that’s just common sense from observation.
            Abbadon’s new model would have been glimpsed in the Fall of Cadia,s photos if there was plan to release one soon as per the norm for GW in the past i.e the Trygon in white dwarf before its release and the Space Marine statue in the Honoured Imperium Terrain set. I could state numerous other examples to prove my point but two will do as there’s many many more of new models shown in plain sight.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            That is your opinion. However, it reflected what you made in your own statement. Why not have new things in a book that is to have a list? It doesn’t so why would they have to adhere to that. Also They are running it like End times does not mean it is AoS nor does it make anything last chance to buy. You also have time before they probably start to pull models off the shelf. Further more if it is an Abbaddon Ascended let’s say, it will be just like Archaon was where either are applicable should you have them. As one is larger with different rules. Where did you get three months, seems rather arbitrary.. in any case the next book would be next month, making it 3 months since the first reveal of the Triumverate and Fall of cadia.. so that would coincide with your magic minimum month theory. So before spotting things randomly, why don’t you sit and wait. As I am sure within 3 weeks you will find out.

          • Roughneck

            Think you will find they have already told people publicly on Facebook that it is not “The End of Times” for 40k today!
            It is not an opinion on whether it would or wouldn’t be in last chance to buy as it would, that’s fact.
            The reason Celestine wasn’t in the Imperial Agents is fact as well, stated by Games Workshop and hence not my opinion.
            Abaddon hasn’t ascended though has he?
            Three months is again fact and if you go to Warhammer World events and speak to the WD writers they will tell you as much, but let me guess you never go to these? Whereas I do.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Ok let’s go through to the top. When I said “it like end times” does not imply it is end times. Just that I find that is similarly played out(opinion). So if GW says it is not, it is not, but that does not change that how they are releasing models for the event is similar. That these are timed releases and will trickle down. It will take time for said model if they are going to remake the model to come out. Since GW has on numerous occasions in previous books released models even though depicting the old model IE end times, agents, and many more… There is a high precedence that that is just how they do things. Also they don’t always just turn off things and but them on last chance. Again it may take time. As before you came up with some magic three months, which I agree things are in fruition and therefore were well planned out before hand. The plan to phase things out however may be longer than you perceive.
            So your whining that just because it isn’t this or isn’t that, does not change how they decide to sell models. As I said it may even be a whole new thing meaning that two can exist in the same time. Furthering that, they can say all they want about anything on WHTV but things can and do change. GW has done so in the past. Wait a month before you start calling the “sky is falling” or” no new nothing”.

          • Roughneck

            There’s no magic three months WD admit they wrote it three months in advance what part of that don’t you understand? It’s not magic but fact it’s written months in advance, why do you think the sisters of battle where away on campaign when everyone was calling for plastic sisters it was for fall of cadia.
            The only person whose whining here is you! I’m stating facts and saying if he were to have a new model it would have been glimpsed in Cadia and the existing in last chance to buy.
            To be honest I don’t care if he does get a new model its just pointing out a fairly obvious observation about how Games Workshop do things by someone who works with them.

  • SilentPony

    God, wouldn’t it be great if it was primarchs? Lorgar, Fulgrim and then a loyalist, like Lion or Corax.

  • Randy Randalman

    To the wishlists below: I don’t think we will see a bunch of familiar names get new models. Likely 1 familiar character with 2 new ones. It’s an easier way to inject a new storyline into the game, dramatically end another, etc. Can’t just hang on to the old characters forever. A lot of them were never very interesting anyway; or they had their time and we need to move on.

    • Graham Bartram

      “A lot of them were never very interesting anyway” ….well I have to agree but at the same time I will interject that the game has 3 types of characters, the fluff characters who need to be interesting because of fluff but just don’t need to see a table (Aun Va -the space pope, for example), the ones that are not important fluff wise but should be on the table because it’s fun (sergeants and such like with little buffs, IMHO the game lacks cool minor characters for a lot of armies)…. and finally the important fluff and game characters that make up the bulk of all the named peeps. They need to be good on table and have great fluff.
      It seems to me that GW sometimes miss the mark a bit on them sometimes.

  • Rafał Pytlak

    I’d be down for:
    2)Erebus (get some of that Word Bearers love)

  • Emperor’s Champion

    This galactic shake up has actually got me buzzing, apologies to all the people who have played for 30 years but I’m actually loving this and hope something as awesome as AoS comes along soon even if they aren’t overhauling the entire game.

  • Keith Wilson

    The Lion, Cypher and Luthor …. u heard it here first 🙂

    • *Luther. Luthor (Huss) is a priest of Sigmar in WHFB 😉

  • Gonfrask

    Correction, last time seen Urkantos was falling from a wall, a little bit dead

  • deris87

    In other news, water is wet.

  • Xodis

    So where is the image of someone giving Abaddon a beer?

  • Malisteen

    I mean, a chaos triumvirate of some kind is surely coming, but this particular rumor feels like just guesswork. Urkanthos in particular seems salty, as he was banished during the Fall of Cadia campaign, and it seems unlikely he’d be able to re-manifest so soon. Abaddon was even speculating on who would replace him, which feels like a setup for anyone OTHER than Urkanthos.

  • Angus Murphy

    Warlord Kossalax is a world eater

  • Angus Murphy

    or is that Kossolax

  • Thatroubleshootah

    Not into any of this stuff. It all seems kind of a hodge podge of influences that don’t really have any meaning for me.

  • silashand

    I’d prefer Zaraphiston over Kossalax(?) It would fit right in with the Wrath of Magnus storyline since he is originally from the Thousand Sons.

  • Munn

    Yeah, except celestine tossed urkanthos’s lifeless corpse off the walls of cadia.

  • Kord

    I am thinking it will be some generic chaos guys usable by any of the traitor legions. Frylock, Master shake and Meatwad.

  • Spacefrisian

    A new Asdrubeal vect on super Raider, with lots of stuff making it a pain to transport.

  • piglette

    Tuska please.

  • Jared van Kell

    Urkanthos was last seen getting cast off the side of the Kasr Kraf by Celestine and her Gemini Superior.

  • paxter

    I assume they need to keep this up for the next few months till the summer window there should be at least two more or even three before the big reveal of the new ed.

    They have not tap their best seller yet which I can easily say would be the marines

  • rpiazza72

    The Kossalax I know is a World Eater from the Foresworn warband but seen it spelled Kossolax used to be Solax a Sergeant during the Heresy. He mentioned with Barbarus a Rhino present at the Siege of the Imperial Palace.

  • eehaze

    Abbadon/Typhus/Kharn makes the most make sense from a story/marketing perspective.

    Kharn just got a new model, and Abbadon needs updating. Typhus looks great, but he’s not expensive enough yet.

  • kobalt60

    Abby, fabulous bill and dooooomrider

  • joetwocrows

    Need an Ork triumvirate.

    • Graham Bartram