Geekery: The League All Is Here

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… almost all of it, anyway. Check out this new photo from the set of Justice League.

USAToday published their list of must sees in 2017, and it came with this still of the cast….

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Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot return. They are joined by Ray Fisher as Cyborg, Ezra Miller as Flash, and Jason Momoa as Aquaman. In some sort of giant transport ship thing. The Frank Miller inspired tactical suit is growing on me, but I’m not digging these versions of Cyborg or Flash. Sometimes less is more.

We haven’t gotten a look at what Snyder has in store for this since SDCC. They wrapped principal photography in September. We’re due for something beyond a still in the next few weeks.

What do you think of the new costumes? 

  • Horus84cmd

    Ewww that shocking CGI on cyborg. I hope that is not a finished pass on frame…..

    • ZeeLobby

      Eh, that just shows my preference for marvel over DC. I had to look up who Cyborg even was. LoL.

      • Thomas

        Me, seeing the cast of heroes: “Gee, wonder which ‘beloved’ hero they’ll kill off to manufacture some drama.”

      • Shawn

        Cyborg has actually been around since the 80s, if not earlier. He was originally a member of the Teen Titans, and I think he joined up before Dick Grayson took on the mantle of Nightwing.

    • rtheom

      Cyborg’s hands look so tiny…

      • Senexis

        Ray Miller for President! Miller 2020!

      • euansmith

        That’s unpresidented!

    • All his crotch needs is a jaw and it’s a Decepticon – once you see it, you cannot un-see it… http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e53b91ecb1d21394706891c8919531529efad0a4865bb521e369f2e45567f858.png

      • Horus84cmd

        hahahahaha – “You fail me yet again, Aquaman… GET THEM”

      • Thomas

        A jaw and an extremely jarring and out-of-place Mercedes™ logo =P

  • Ravingbantha

    When the world is in danger from an alien invasion, who do we call? A guy who can talk to fish….

    • EnTyme

      Pick up a comic published after 1950 sometime. Aquaman is a straight up badass.

      • Ravingbantha

        Bruce Wayne doesn’t know that. All he’s knows is that at some point insect looking aliens show up to conquer earth. So naturally he would spend his time hunting down a guy that can swim underwater a and talk to fish.

        • EnTyme

          And swim at supersonic speeds and breath underwater. Also super strength, and the ability to survive subarctic temperatures. But by all means, go with the lazy joke and focus on the fact the guy has a telekinetic connection to sea life (which, btw, comprises some 97% of the life on the planet).

          • Aurion Shidhe

            You forgot to add that he is effectively King of 70% of the surface of the Earth. The only Justice League member that can challenge him in a fight is Superman.

          • Shawn

            While I like Aquaman, he’s not the only one that can fight Superman. Wonder Woman has super-strength too and a capable fighter. Batman has even fought Super-man, but with a little assistance from Kryptonite.

          • Muninwing

            Martian Manhunter is about as strong too… but if not for his weakness to fire he’s nearly on par with Supes

          • euansmith

            Plus Invisibility, Intangibility, Shape shifting, Telepathy… blimey he’s ridiculously over powered.

          • Horus84cmd

            Overpowered…..Isn’t that any major DC superhero in a nutshell?

          • euansmith

            If I was in charge, I would give Resurrected Superman a limit to bring him more in line with any sensible story line. I’d make it so that he is still the strongest, fastest, toughest, superest dude around; but that he has a limited amount of energy to call up. The more he pushes himself, the more more quickly he drains his reserves; with him needing to rest in the sunshine to recharge. The same with the Flash, of course, having to take a pizza break break after any major use of the speed force.

          • Muninwing

            that’s actually why i’m not a huge comics fan in general… “the unassailable is the uninteresting”

            and nothing is more unassailable than a hero who faces no real danger. no weaknesses that cannot be overcome, no need to stay dead permanently, no penalties that last longer than one writer’s ideas.

            DC is the most guilty of this, but Marvel falls into the trap quite a bit too. Just look at what they’ve claimed Scarlet Witch can do.

          • euansmith

            I his defence, he Martian Manhunter is at least terrified of fire; which is a bit more of a common threat than lumps of some blown up alien planet. But otherwise he has the most ridiculous suit of super powers going.

          • Horus84cmd

            Don’t nearly all main DC heros have one thing (usually stupid) that scars/weakens them?

            Superman = Kryptonite
            Green Lantern = the colour yellow

          • euansmith

            The original Green Lantern was vulnerable to Wood of all things. 😀

          • euansmith

            Wait until Martian Manhunter turns up and Aquaman tries to steal his Oreos 😉

          • Jesse Cavazos

            While I like Aquaman a lot I feel like Bruce Wayne’s sole concern in this movie is to get ANY superhuman on his team.

          • Horus84cmd

            You’ve mean Synders insane need to add character after unnecessary character to the plot. This films got a additional cast of minor-ish comic support characters as long as your arm…..

          • EnTyme

            Except, you know, every one of those characters were members of the Justice League. Hell, Cyborg is the only one who wasn’t a founding member.

          • Horus84cmd

            No I am talking about this lot:
            – Joe Manganiello as Slade Wilson / Deathstroke
            – Willem Dafoe as Nuidis Vulko (someone to do with Aquaman
            – Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor: the hereditary CEO of LexCorp.
            – Jeremy Irons as Alfred Pennyworth:
            – Diane Lane as Martha Kent
            – Connie Nielsen as Queen Hippolyta (WW Mum)
            – J. K. Simmons as James Gordon
            Amber Heard as Mera (Aquamans wife)
            – Kiersey Clemons as Iris West (Flash’s Girly).
            – Kristofer Hivju as an ancient Atlantean king
            – Julian Lewis Jones has been cast in an undisclosed role.

            Now granted some of these guys have alot of comic history, but how vital are they going to be the actual story being told in the Justice League film. How many of these characters are going to have more than a couple of minutes of screen time? Not only will the film have to introduce the Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg but all these guys (barring Martha, Lex and Alfred). Thats Eleven characters and not including the baddie Steppenwolf (and perhaps even Darkseid). Insane!

          • EnTyme

            God forbid they create a cinematic universe with frivolous things like “depth” and “character motivation”. Heaven help us!

          • Horus84cmd

            Did I say that no – erm no. Yes the universe needs depth to succeed long term and is what cinematic franchises mean that much more, but does one film need all of this either?

            It is too much for one film to handle well and with the respect the source material deserves. Sadly I fear it will overall will strangle the a pace and smoother plot of the film.

          • Thomas Gardiner

            The point.





            Your head.

          • EnTyme

            That’s definitely the way I see it. If you’re a metahuman and haven’t robbed a bank yet, you’re in.
            P.S. Aquaman isn’t my favorite either, I just get sick of people going for the easy joke.

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  • Victor Hartmann

    ” In some sort of giant transport ship thing.”

    Stormraven would be nice 😀

    • euansmith

      It is a plastic Thunderhawk… Bruce Wayne has the money to make it happen!

  • pompeyladBFP

    please dont be like that horrible mess like SvB or SS.. Shocking missed opportunities

    • Horus84cmd

      Don’t hold your breath. I reckon it is going to suffer the same issues that BvS did – in that during production Synder gone “wouldn’t it be cool if….” and just added more and more unnecessary rubbish and additional characters.

      I feel SS had a better story in it, if Warners had just let Ayer release the cut he wanted to release – which was far darker and grittier.

      • Muninwing

        except that Superman is supposed to be the counter to the “darker and grittier” — and the MCU movies have foregone dark and gritty in favor of actually telling a real story, and it’s worked better.

        i’m really surprised that they are letting Snyder have another one at this point. it’s just not working.

        • Horus84cmd

          Secret hand shakes and who you know I think has kept Snyder in.

  • Senexis

    It’s probably the least flattering angle they could have shot that from – well-lit, straight on, flat-footed static poses. Just about everything they tell you not to do when you’re learning how to draw comics.
    Batman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman look great. Flash is growing on me. Cyborg… we’ll see how he looks on film

    • Horus84cmd

      The whole shot looks either composited together (like they’ve add the scene late in the game and could not get all the cast back together) or just not finished.

  • effinger2

    The Flash’s costume sucks.

    • Countdiscount

      And CyBorg looks like a Michael Bay Transformer. Looks like he’s about to transform into a Porsche or something.

  • Emperor’s Champion

    flash looks too armoured for my liking. TV version is so much better.

    • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

      Apparently, your second sentence describes the entire DC Cinematic franchise.

      • Nogle

        Something that sits wrong with me. They want us to watch the flash on TV, but not use the actor in this?!?!?

        • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

          This is kind of a lesser issue with the MCU (JW’s hand-wringing aside). I’m not sure if DC’s using the same production team to run their TV series and their movies, but judging by the differences and lack of continuity, I’d say no.

          • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

            I see. Ironic that a comic brand known for spinning properties off into their own worlds, and having side worlds set up for divergent plots, is largely venturing to keep everything in one continuity, while it’s competitor, oft credited with inventing the retcon, is letting its properties stand largely on their own.

            Still, I think if you’re passionate about the way their comics are represented on the screen, you should watch what you find to be quality rather than just taking the stuff you hate.

        • DC doesn’t do TV/movie crossovers – it’s company policy.

        • Muninwing

          years ago, when they were starting to consider this line of movies, they also considered using Tom Welling after Smallville finished.

          instead, they let the show fade into mediocrity by adding one or two too many seasons, they let the actor fade from people’s memories, and they decided that it wasn’t important to go big until Marvel beat them to it.

          there were rumors of some of the same writers, producers, and directors that are now working on the Marvel stuff who were ready to go on the DC movies, but got shut down by the studio. and that Avengers was their second choice, which only came about because DC balked. i’d love to know if those were true, because some exec over at DC headquarters must be kicking himself daily about now…

  • Donald Lindsey

    Well, it’s not the Justice League without Superman.

    • Cavill is on the cast list – not sure how they’ll handle resurrecting him.

      • Horus84cmd

        badly?

        • Likely… but how badly?

          • Muninwing

            if the last two movies are any indication… pretty badly.

          • Horus84cmd

            on a scale of b-to-adly. I’d hedge my bets on adly

      • Me

        That plot line is actually covered in the comics. I expect that the actual explanation of his return will be similar.

        • I’m aware – Snyder doesn’t do a good job at sticking with the comics, though. He’s already made it clear his run of movies aren’t adaptations.

  • Thomas

    I honestly can’t even find adequate words to express why I dislike these DC movies so much, it’s like an instinctual reaction. I dunno, they just seem so sterile, so flat. The colours are so washed out, the dialogue is so stiff, the whole thing feels like it was designed by men in suits as a marketing exercise. There’s no feeling behind these movies.

    The visuals are so bland, and they try *way* too hard to look “badass.” Like the superhero equivalent of an over-designed gaming mouse. Too many angles and too much black plastic.

    And these movies try *so* hard to be clever, while being utterly stupid in practice (and this is a Snyder thing. Dude thinks he’s some genius auteur, but I’ve literally heard better and more incisive writing in high school English classes).

    “Oh, but what about all the weighty themes?” They’re not weighty. They’re cliched and overdone. The sort of crap you find on a t-shirt at Hot Topic. Smashing heavy-handed religious imagery in our faces doesn’t make a “smart” movie. Just ask the Wachowskis how that worked out in the Matrix sequels.

    It’s a shame, because I’ve always preferred DC’s IP to Marvel’s. Batman and Superman are the frickin’ TEMPLATE for most superheroes now. But the Marvel films, at their best, have real heart and they’re fun and they take themselves just seriously enough without descending into “gritty,” Disturbed lyrics territory.

    They’re multi-faceted and express a range of emotions, while maintaining an aura of tonal consistency. The DC movies are like an emo teenager’s wardrobe.

    • Muninwing

      i think you got it.

      they are trying too hard. meaning that they don’t know how to capture what it is that they want.

      it comes off as kinda immature. childish. only “clever” if you’re under the age of 16 and don’t have any idea of subtlety. like they are trying to pander to what they think the fans are like via stereotype, rather than make a real movie.

    • Horus84cmd

      The let down with the whole DCU is that, although it had its flaws, I felt, Man of Steel actually did set up the DCU on a solid footing. It was different, but no better or worse than Ironman, just different.

      I personally did enjoy MoS. Clark was powerful but also humanly flawed with his own uncertainty and insecurities that could be related to. The story didn’t overly repeat his origin, the film showed us something we’d not seen on film with the spot-light into Krypton. Zod was not just treated as a one dimensional character and to one degree you could understand his motivation; plus Michael Shannon nailed the role. In fact the whole movie was well cast.

      Now, lot of people didn’t like the whole superman killing Zod, but it was interesting twist an examination of what would Clark do give a impossible choice? Could that bit been of set up different so that didn’t happen – yes; Am I upset they choose that no. Same goes for the destruction. Was it a little over the top? perhaps, but it again was a interesting look at the worst consequences of what would happen if God-like characters fight.

      But after with BvS and SS the ball was so badly dropped.

      • Thomas Gardiner

        Yeah, MoS was deeply flawed but it was still watchable. It was still better than 2 out of 3 Iron Man films. The story was a lot more focused than BvS or SS and the characters actually grew a little.

        Sure, it wasn’t a masterpiece and it wasn’t as good a starting point as the first Iron Man, but it was a solid enough movie with some promise. Most of my problems with it really boil down to Snyder again (the washed out colours and such).

  • Greg Osborn

    None of them look real in that photo, more like statues or cardboard stand-ups.