40K: LVO Faction Breakdown


The Las Vegas Open 2017 was this past weekend – come check out the faction breakdown from the event!

The weekend of February 3-5th, 2017 will go down as one of the craziest wargaming weekends of all time because of the Las Vegas Open. And thanks to Front Line Gaming we have a rundown of the factions that showed up:

via Front Line Gaming

LVO 2017 Faction breakdown

Eldar – 48

Space Marines – 42

Tau Empire – 37

Chaos Daemons – 29

Chaos Space Marines – 28

Cult Mechanicus – 20

Dark Angels – 20

Imperial Knights – 17

Space Wolves – 16

Necrons – 15

Orks – 14

Genestealer Cult – 11

Dark Eldar – 10

Blood Angels – 9

Tyranids – 9

Astra Militarum – 8

Grey Knights – 8

Eldar Corsairs – 7

Khorne Daemonkin – 7

Renegades – 6

Adepta Soroitas – 5

Knights Renegades – 5

Skitarri – 4

Harlequins – 3

Officio Assassinorum – 2

Deathwatch – 1

Militarum Tempestus – 1


This is just a breakdown of the Primary Detachment for each faction and does not include any allies. However, it’s pretty easy to see which factions are the most dominant. With LVO being the first major US tournament of the year, it’s going to be interesting to see how these faction break-downs change throughout the year. Right now, Eldar, Space Marines and Tau are sitting on top of the pack in terms of turn out.


Congrats to the LVO for an awesome event and what a player turn out!

  • LeroyJenkinss

    You mean aeldari?

    • joetwocrows

      There is no aeldari codex. Eldar is correct. 🙂

  • Defenestratus

    I’d like to see more informal gaming articles on BoLS.

    Promoting the competitive side of the hobby only perpetuates the terrible things about it.

    • Maitre Lord Ironfist

      there is not terrible stuff about competitive or casual. They are both valid (yeah, i said that as a more casual player)

    • Charon

      You are right. Your post is an absolute proof that these articles only spawn terrible people complaining about an article they could easily skip.

      • ZeeLobby


      • Pablo Martinez


    • TheseusRaholan

      And as a casual player, I enjoy these competitive side articles. To each their own.

      • Carey_Mahoney


    • Drpx

      Min/maxer ate my baby.

    • Pyrrhus of Epirus

      i have no way of knowing if its more hardcore or less kind of guys who visit these websites, id be interested if somebody affiliated with the site could tell us what gets more views, say a tournament recap article, or a recap of fluff they post here often. I know which articles i read and which ones i skip in the above scenario, and i do know which ones generate 10x the comments, and its not the fluff articles.

      • BClement

        Pretty sure you just answered your own question.

        But now I have a question for you: If you (as a non-BoLS affiliated person) can see which articles get 10x the comments why do you suppose they write the other articles?

        You know, all those “informal gaming articles” aka fluff posts that apparently people skip.

        • Charon

          To be fair, most of them are not “written” but c&p from lexicanum.

      • Pablo Martinez

        I will tell you, that the BOLS staff are not idiots. They post the articles that gets them the most reads and views because that’s how their business works.

        So, if you start to see a trend in articles, you can bet that is in their best interests as a business. Which is perfectly reasonable.

  • Commissar Molotov

    Surprised there were only 4 Skitarii armies. They seem like a powerful army to me (but I guess that’s why I ain’t a competitive player!)

    • Charon

      Cult Mechanicus – 20

      Mechanicus is the power house. Skitarii is only a small sub faction (like tempestus scions)

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        CM and Skitarii basically have the same number of units in their respective codexes, lol

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah, but Skitarii are limited by lack of HQ, so inability to CAD or AD. Makes them harder to build around. That’s ignoring the fact that CM is just bounds better unit wise.

          • David

            You’ve missed cadia we can now CAD under celestine

        • Drpx

          Why only sell one Codex when you can sell two?

          • Victor Hartmann

            One of many reasons to be thankful for the new leadership. Not that they’re perfect but he old leadership for GW seamed to be on the path of breaking everything into smaller sellable bits for higher costs.

            I have little doubt the old guys are shaking their head at the savings customers get in the new box sets. “You could have sold each model as a separate bar code for at least $12! Dern fool young’ns!”

        • David

          It’s not unit numbers it’s price
          6 X ironstrider = 1 unit =£180 =270-330pt depending on if you upgrade them with bad guns.

          Conversely CM kastelan robot £42 290pt (without upgrades)

          Also I bet a fair few of those CM are War con which is really both factions

    • Karru

      Skitarii isn’t that powerful. Cult Mechanicus is the scary army.

  • Looking at the new codexes we got in 2016, it’s odd to see such a spread between Genestealer Cults which were common whlie being a large difficult army to assemble and paint up – and Deathwatch which are small and easy to collect, but almost absent.

    • Commissar Molotov

      Cult seems like it’d be a good hard counter to the “gunline” armies, thanks to Cult Ambush. I bet that’s why it was so highly represented.

      • ZeeLobby

        Yeah. It’s a rock to the common scissors.

      • Drpx

        On top of people being sick of gunlines.

      • Pyrrhus of Epirus

        of the 2 main gunline armies (eldar/tau), cult dominate eldar who have weak overwatch, weak melee, no interceptor while tau are the gold standard for interceptor and overwatch anyway. Its a hard counter to one faction, which had already begun to really get surpassed by many 2016 releases.

    • gordonshumway

      Yeah but Cults are a strong codex with competitively priced units and a new and often meta-breaking rule in Cult Ambush. Deathwatch are…well, the opposite of all those things. No doubt Deathwatch is neato…but it tends to not be worth its points on the table and must be played almost perfectly to see any success at a competitive level.

      EDIT: Also my guess is most of those GSC forces were eBay-style “pro painted”™

    • Karru

      Not really. Deathwatch wasn’t meant to be an army of its own like Genestealer Cult was. Deathwatch was clearly meant to be an allied codex like Inquisition. It would be much better idea to take a normal SM army with Double-Demi and add some Deathwatch to it if you wanted to roll with them.

    • Charon

      In an Eldar dominated meta, Genestealer cults tend to prosper. However they got pretty much nerved by the new FAQ.
      Scatterbikes and warpspiders are pretty much lost in melee. Usually they never get there due to their mobility. Cult ambush nullifies that.

    • Troy G

      Also, Tyranid players have been crying for a playable codex for years now. GSC is the closest GW has come.

      Space Marine players meanwhile have been just fine, so there is no hurry to pick up deathwatch.

      I think it illustrates clearly that if GW wanted to sell a ton of models they’d fix Nids or Orks. Another rework of space marines isn’t going to have as much impact on sales.

      • ZeeLobby

        Ah, the dream, THE DREAM!!!

    • ZeeLobby

      Uh. Not if you consider how much better GSC are when facing the current meta in a tournament. This is a true scale of power level on display.

    • Davor Mackovic

      Well it happens when people need to win with plastic to soldiers. Like really how many of those “Eldar players” are really Eldar fans and play for the love of the fluff?

      At least we know the person who played Deathwatch plays for fun and not to win with plastic toy soldiers. 🙂

      • Victor Hartmann

        I’m genuinely curious how we know he “plays for fun and not win”? He (or she for that matter) may have had a very successful tournament and won lots of games smashing people left and right but still not made Top 8. Or got thrashed heartily even though he (yeah, it’s probably a he) had tried to make a cut throat list.

        But we probably agree, he probably wasn’t there so much for the wins as just having fun. Like the vast majority of tournament players.

        • Davor Mackovic

          And those 48 or what ever Eldar players, are only playing Eldar because they are easier to play with and will drop them once a new flavour of the month or more powerful army comes along?

          Yes there are Eldar players who always played them but funny they were not so many of them in 5th edition. Even in the begining of 6th edition they were not many Eldar players. Now they have a new codex so MANY Eldar players now. Even more come 7th edition. Coincidence? Or people needing to win with plastic toy soldiers? 🙂

          • Charon

            To be fair Eldar always had a very broad tournament presece through all editions.
            If you want to make a valid point you should use Dark Eldar in your example. They were quite powerful in 3rd, dropped in the following editions into insignificance and got played more in 7th before the FAQ disallowed Eldar to hijack their transports.

    • Victor Hartmann

      GSC is pretty cool, they actually play similar to their fluff.

      I’ve got a nice collection of Deathwatch and enjoy playing them. I even have a favorable win rate. But I’d have to agree with others who have posted that they are too expensive on their own and function better as allies. Also, there are some weird inconsistencies and omissions in their HQs. Makes them a bit less flexible.

    • Pyrrhus of Epirus

      higher power level = higher representation

      Cult is a great anti eldar force and eldar were the most represented faction at the event. Does anybody find death watch tearing up the tournament scene?

  • Daniel Lee George Zimmerman

    Magnus has already had an impact. I don’t have last years numbers but he is putting CSM back up there

    • Charon

      Not so much Magnus, but the Rehati War Sect which is Magnus + Daemon Princes.
      It is basically the upgraded version of the Daemons Infernal Tetrad.

      • ZeeLobby

        Lol. Yup. And it falls under CSM. I’m sure there were more CSM as well, but I doubt they placed well.

        • Pyrrhus of Epirus

          another awesome CSM list with no CSM in it, much like all the awesome CSM lists from lastyear featuring cultists and nothing but demons or KDK.

          On a personal level, im really on the fence with 40k going forward, i despise the magic system in this game now, and the new hotness is obviously things like conclave, cabal, magnus, flying magic DP. I refuse to play that kind of game and frankly im being left behind at my club/tournamnets, maybe time to start up guitar lessons again if 8th fails to correct it, why throw good money after bad in a game im starting to not like.

          • Charon

            From a non tournament POV (but still in a competitive meta), Traitor Legions did help out some Legions a lot.
            Deathguard for example is perfectly able to field ordinary CSM without sacrificing efficiency.
            Yes, not every Legion can do that. But on the other hand this is no different from SM where you dont see Salamanders or Black Templars in the meta either.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. I’m just not sure if Deathguard are still able to hang in a competitive meta. Sure they got better, but the gap between them and the next level is still massive.

          • Charon

            Depends on your opponent and if you can accept a boring playstyle that lets you win via VP while beeing the only one sustaining losses.
            Warband MSU with T5 and FnP ObjSec is pretty solid. Just dont expect them to do anything else than camping objectives.
            It is a bit like a worse version of Gladius.

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    Why would someone run Tempestus? I like them but that codex has “ally” written all over it.

    • ZeeLobby

      🙁 I run tempestus…

      • Koszka

        You’re not alone friend.

        • Kolobius

          If I bought into a IG army I would only run Tempestus. But I would never run it as a competitive list

    • Drpx

      To be the guy who ran Tempestus.

  • Pumbadumba

    How does one even run an Officio Assasinorum Army? Can’t you only take 1 assassin in the detachment?

    • Drpx

      Article only listed primary detachment. Not allies.

    • Kyle Goguen

      They have the formation that is all 4 assassins

      • Pumbadumba

        Isn’t that still only ~500 points?

    • winterman

      Also primary faction in ITC for awards and such is the one with the most points dedicated to it.

  • Jeremy Larson

    Okay, I want to see the army lists that had Officio Assassinorum as their primary detachment.

    • Pablo Martinez

      One of them was Assassin Taskforce x2, and legion of the damned squads.

      • Jeremy Larson

        That sounds absolutely amazing. Maybe not effective, but amazing.

  • Painjunky

    Eldar, SM, Tau, deamons, magnus and friends…
    As expected. No surprises then.

  • Aaron

    I wonder what kind of chaos marine lists they were? deathguard?

    • winterman

      Magnus in some form or other. Usually allied to daemons or renegades. At least the CSM that were battling at top of heap

  • Kolobius

    I took pics of like 300 armies while there. Easily half had allied Riptide Wing

    • Admiral Raptor

      The guy with the Ork Dredd list sounds awesome! I hope he did well 😀 (but somehow doubt that was the case)

      • Kolobius

        I blew apart his solo dredds, his grot tanks, and was able to take out most of his big squad including the warlord. However I couldn’t take down his big mekka stompa thingie. I got primary, he got secondary, and he had 1 more bonus point than I so he did actually win his last game. Going into Round 6 we both had 2 losses and 3 wins tied for 99th with a handful of others. I can’t look up where he ended

  • Reven

    Wooh! 5 Sisters 😀 lol