40K RUMORS: Cypher Revealed!

After decades of mystery and evasion, the Dark Angels most wanted has a name.

Cypher has been with the game for a long time.  Everyone has been wondering who the hooded man is exactly.  One thing is certain, he’s getting anew miniature in the upcoming Rise of the Primarch and headed out way in just a few days.

 

Who Is Cypher?

There have been many plots and suspects over the years regarding his exact identity. Today a new name comes forth from the community.

+++SPOILER ALERT+++

 

via dakka’s Orock

“Apparently cypher is redloss, first captain of the dark angels dread wing and Captain of the Lions honor guard”

Exactly Who is this Candidate?

via Lexicanum:

Farith Redloss

Farith Redloss was a member of the Dark Angels during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy.

Redloss was originally a native of Caliban, and most of his family was killed by the Great Beasts that roamed the forest. When he was 8 years old, his settlement was rescued by The Order and Lion El’Jonson. The young but determined fighter was selected to become a member of the Dark Angels thereafter.

Eventually commanding the Dreadwing, he became the voted lieutenant of the force after recommendation by his predecessor Constantine. As commander of the Dreadwing, Redloss was frequently at his Primarch Lion El’Jonson‘s side. When the Lion arrived at Macragge Redloss led his honour guard and later helped battle Konrad Curze when the Night Lords Primarch was loose upon the planet. Farith later helped lead the hunt for Curze, personally leading the Dreadwing in the attack on the Zepath System in the search of the Night Haunter. He then took part in the hunt for Curze in the Illyrium region of Macragge when the Lion finally cornered the Night Haunter.

Dreadwing

The Dreadwing was one of the six specialized formations called Wings of the Dark Angels Space Marine Legion during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy. The speciality of Dreadwing was total warfare where the voted-lieutenant bearing title Dreadbringer used Destroyer Marine Squads supported by other types of squads to bring total anihilation of a foe on specific battlefield. The Dreadwing utilized mass armored assaults of Land RaidersSpartan Assault CarriersMastodons and Fellglaives with advanced weaponry. They were also known to employ weapons of mass destruction such as Phosphex and Vortex Weapons.

Thoughts

There was no followup from the OP on the information, but if true, we talking about a heresy-era guy who been walking about for 9,000 years with that sword on his back.  It’s also a guy who had a very sinister job – commanding the Destroyer elements of the Dark Angels back in the day.

 

~In any case, we’ll know one way or the other in a couple of weeks. Do you believe?

  • SilentPony

    Wait, wasn’t he that Librarian from the Heresy?

    • Kritarion

      I also thought it was Zahariel, gven that he killed the Lord Cypher before that.

    • BrassWitch

      “Current” cypher is indeed Zahariel. However, it seems like there is still a couple of novels to go before we finish the DA story line, so it could go either way.

      • SilentPony

        Given all the stuff Cypher can do, it makes way more sense he’s a psyker rather than just a dude

        • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

          I mean, Cypher doesn’t have Psyker rules, but he does have the skills of a Moritat, which are Space Marine heroes closely associated with the Destroyer squads Farith Redloss commands…

          I always assumed his more mystical capabilities were linked to the Watchers in the Dark, which could wind up applying to any Dark Angel.

    • Philip Estabrook

      Has there ever been a ruleset for Cypher where he was a psyker? None that I can think of.

      • SilentPony

        Not that I’m aware of. That’d be a nice little thing if in fact he’s Zahariel(the Cypher Librarian during the early heresy era)

  • Liam Lofty Loftus

    Spoiler Alert…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    Unless things radically change, Zahariel is Cypher as of the end of Angels of Caliban

    • Dylan Langdon

      They do. Read pandorax.

      • Pandorax confirms nothing of the sort. It may have been any of the Calibanite Librarians. If anything, Angels of Caliban with its introduction of Zahariel’s cabal makes it even more likely that it is somebody else.

    • GingerPowered

      Spoiler alert… “Cypher” is actually a title, not a name

  • markdawg

    I am Alpharious!

    • euansmith

      Nah, mate, he’s taller than you.

      • GingerPowered

        Pretty sure he spells his name different, too

        • Steve L Duelist

          With two Ls

          • amaximus167

            With two LOLs

      • Dennis J. Pechavar

        That is why I am actually Alpharius.

  • Angry Panda

    Never heard of him.

    • Carey_Mahoney

      Yep. No big revelation to me either.

      • Angry Panda

        Just another random guy in the Warhammer 40k Universe.

  • Steve L Duelist

    Damn, I had the Deathwing Captain Holguin, pegged for the 40k Cypher. Since the relieve on Cypher’s new model and reveal of March’s white dwarf, the mention of Guiliman not pleased with Cypher’s sword. As he was the one carrying the blade for the Lion, and vowed the reforge it after Big Blue snapped it

    • grim_dork

      Awesome theory, like it.

    • It is massively more likely to be Holguin at this point. He is the keeper of the Lion’s sword after Guilliman breaks it, and there’s no indication as of yet that it’d pass on to Redloss, who was also in the novel.

      • Steve L Duelist

        Only indentation would be, Cypher refers to his possession of the blade as a promise. Perhaps Hologuin dies and make Redloss promise to take the sword later in the story, it has been twist and turny so far.

        I theorized the modern DA, their hurt and Cypher’s mission are born of a pact between the Emperor and Watchers, and the codex says only the watcher and emperor really know what happened to the Lion.

    • Loki Nahat

      I still think it’s highly likely Holguin, seems the ‘spoiler’ leak may have gotten deathwing and dreadwing confused

      • Steve L Duelist

        a bit odd given Deathwing is better known in 40K

  • piglette

    I’ve never met a non Dark Angel player who was interested in Dark Angel fluff.

    • Dan Wilson

      Personally I really am not into the DA. Except the fluff around Cypher. That element alone… Perhaps precisely because he’s their very antithesis.

    • Ben

      I’m a Space Wolves player and keep up on the Angels. Gotta watch out for those shifty bastards. 😛

      • Leif Leegard

        Aye, we Dark Angels always have an eye out on you feral pups as well. So it’s only fair you be worried.

    • grim_dork

      Totally agree, but then as a Chapter they’re not very good at finding stuff.
      The same story has been going on for ten. . .thousand. . . years. . .

      • Loki Nahat

        methinks you don’t understand how large the galaxy is

    • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

      As a Chaos player, I keep tabs on all the Traitor Legions.

  • Darth Bumbles

    Unless I’ve massively gotten the wrong end of the stick, wasnt there a 40k Dark Angel sent back to 30k by Warp shenanigans in Thorpe’s Legscy of Caliban series?

    Ever since I read that, I pegged that fella as Cypher.

    • Tshiva keln

      If I remember correctly it was the 40k version of Cypher who went into the anomaly and presumably into the past. Must come back to the future at some point (did they still have Delorians in 30k?) Or snuggled down with the Lion for 10,000 years of relaxing spooning.

      • Darth Bumbles

        You’re right, just Cypher.

      • Steve L Duelist

        maybe he is 20,000 years old now, or switch places with someone

  • 6Cobra

    Farith Redloss? God, I hope not – what an uninspired choice. The guy whose strategic philosophy is “nuke it from orbit – and even thats not sure enough.” In the novels he’s a one-dimensional, my-only-tool-is-a-hammer type. Of course, so is Abbadon in the Horus Heresy novels, and he supposedly somehow morphs into a Moriarty-in-space after the Heresy. So maybe Redloss becomes more interesting, grabs some pistols, and startes zipping around the Galaxy. There’ll need to be some serious character development between then and now.

    • Jonathan Russell

      Only tool is a hammer? He must be a mechy 😎🔨

      • Leif Leegard

        Or an Iron Warrior….

  • Old zogwort

    Phosphex….. 😐

    • lorieth

      They’re glow-in-the-dark Carnifex’s, used to help the Hive fleets find their way in the Warp. Stupid Shadow.

      The DreadWing have a few in stasis and let them loose when they want some laughs on a night mission.

      • Leif Leegard

        So, like Predator and Alien story line all over again…

  • euansmith

    Why is Dark Angles armour green? That’s Red loss, that is.

    • helvexis

      Dark Angels changed their colours to green to honor the lost forests of Caliban after they Accidentalyd the planet

    • lorieth

      An acute observation.

  • iscokeit

    Wait – what about the sword?

    • MechBattler

      It’s supposedly the Lion’s sword, which went missing after the primarch’s battle with Luthor.

  • barry sadler

    I really hope they state that the current dark angels are descendant of the traitors repentant and are hunting down the loyalist fallen to cover it all up

    • vlad78

      That’s what I had always thought. I still don’t undrstand where this rumour about Redloss being cypher really comes from.

  • Joost Bruikman

    Thought it was Zahariel. He killed the old cypher, and took his job in the last book. Furthermore he has the pistol skills in his fluff, a connection to the watchers and he’s a psyker.

    • Meanwhile, Holguin has the sword, as presented to him for safekeeping by the Lion himself, after being broken by Guilliman. Redloss is a very unlikely candidate.

      • Deathwing

        I agree. This sounds like a trolling attempt by someone who is actually in the know.
        Zahariel is being made up to be cypher in every aspect of the 30k HH books. If they go and make Redloss the current Cypher there are a few authors on the HH team that are going to have to do some hard selling on that concept at some point in the HH books.

        • I don’t even believe it’ll be Zahariel, personally. He’s got a redemption story coming before the end, I’m sure, but his modus operandi is different. Holguin makes a more likely candidate than him.

          The funny thing is that people still peg Zahariel for Epimetheus from Pandorax, even though by now we know Zahariel had a whole cabal working with him, with some of the members being doubtful.

          I really have to wonder how much ForgeWorld’s Alan Bligh and Gav Thorpe are involved in the ongoing storyline. They’ve both been working on the Dark Angels for the Forgeworld Heresy and the Black Library series, and cooperated a lot for Angels of Caliban. I can’t believe that GW would simply ignore their two most profitable arms in this case when they have almost 10 years of prior work on the mystery, and then shoehorn an unlikely candidate in there that doesn’t share anything with the character from 40k.

          • Deathwing

            GW does have a “Lord of the Lore” guy that is suppose to make sure most everything they write, be it in novels or rule books, jives and matches up. I would hope he would pay special attention to the cypher issue as that has been a VERY long running character.

          • wavelover42

            SPOILERS AHEAD…..
            Now this will be wild speculation on my part. If this rumor is not true It is entirely possible that Zahariel is Epimetheus, and Cypher all rolled into one.

            Noting the fact Epimetheus is captured by Abbadon at Pandorax, and had his gene seed removed. It is entirely possible that Epimethius escapes(Zahariel had the ability to pull that kind of escape off) and warp shenanigans ensue. This might be a way to explain him poping up in different places and times.

            If i remember correctly Epimetheus is supposed to to be turned over to fulgrim? If Epimetheus is, or was turned over to Fulgrim(which would more than likely be on the planet of pleasure in the eye of terror) Epimetheus escaping would still have to traverse the demon planet and Eye of Terror. Epimetheus would more than likely not be corrupted by the warp becouse of his Grey Knight training and purity.

            The only holes that can be poked into this theory is how would Epimethius obtain his older Armour and the Lion Sword? Why go as Cypher instead of Epimethius? Pandorax vague info on Epimethius brings up more questions. Epimethius wanted to avoid the Grey knights for reasons unexplained. The conversation between Epimethius and the Demon hints strongly that Epimethius is Zahariel. Zahariel does become the New Cypher in the last published Dark Angels 30k novel. We will not know how the final dots are connected until the remaining unpublished novels are released.

  • There is zero evidence to support this rumor.

    Holguin, not Redloss, receives the Lion Sword from their Primarch. It is broken by Guilliman, in Holguin and the Lion’s presence, and Holguin gets it for safekeeping and eventual repairs.

    Redloss, meanwhile, screwed things up for the Lion by going Destroyer on Macragge and enraging Guilliman to the point of kicking the Dark Angels out. He’s not exactly in a good position right now, and certainly not as trusted as Holguin is currently.

    Holguin is there beside the Lion when Guilliman has his fit. He is there when the Lion returns to confront Roboute about Curze. He is there saying he plans to get it reforged. Redloss is barely in the room before the Lion takes Holguin down with him to Macragge.

  • Earl Tower

    Either way, I’m looking forward to seeing how all of this unfolds. I always enjoyed fielding Cypher.

  • BT

    All I know is that someone has a massive hard-on for Cypher, to the point of making a command class in 30k (Mortait) for him that is otherwise not represented anywhere else in the game. So there is not one other Mortait in the Chaos legions or Vanilla legions that survives?

    GW has tons of characters like him that they do nothing with and went nowhere. Crack open the Blood Angels Codex to see what I mean (Mephy, Dante, Sang).

    Dark Angels have been a joke since GW ditched the black armor.

    • You mean no mention of Moritat as in this?
      http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Moritat

      • BT

        Moritat as in the Legion Centurion upgrade. It is totally a Command class as it is a HQ option (think Captain level in 30k), but does have special rules like it can not be your Warlord or your compulsory HQ choice.

        It is designed to make Cypher possible in a retroactive manner because Cypher existed in the game before the class did. When they created the class, they added in the other guy listed. Before that, Cypher was in effect just a Marine using the Gunslinger rules. Now they have justification for him where they had none before.

        I will point out that GW has written entire suppliments going on and on about a special character, to then no release a mini or give them stats. So Cypher here has someone’s deep, /deep/ love in GW to go to the lengths given in 30k and now to be (rumored) to be the new Emperor’s right hand man.

        • Daniel Hall

          Uhhh….Its a continuation of a story 20+ years in the making for Cypher.

          Its just figuring out his place :p dont look to deep into it, its a neat thing if true being Redloss

  • Commissar Molotov

    The Matrix movies got worse and worse as they explained it more and more…

    Just stop, Gee Dub. You’ve got a great sandbox for your game. Know when to stop digging.

  • Evil Otto

    Revealed: Cypher’s name.

    It’s Larry. Just Larry.