Privateer: New Community Development Forum

Privateer is adding a new Community Integrated Development forum so players can get more involved.

via Privateer:

Not long ago, Chief Creative Officer and WARMACHINE and HORDES creator Matthew D. Wilson announced our plans to unite Privateer Press’ game development team and our passionate player community under the banner of Community Integrated Development. Since then, we have been working furiously behind the scenes preparing to roll out this exciting new era of WARMACHINE and HORDES.

Well, with an electrifying SmogCon (soon to be Lock & Load Europe) behind us and with Grymkin: The Wicked Harvest revealed as the new HORDES faction, it’s my distinct pleasure to announce that our very first CID cycle will kick off next Monday, March 6, 2017.

On that day, at 10 a.m. PST, Community Integrated Development will go live! You will have the opportunity to get a look at Grymkin models in detail and, if you feel so inclined, to help us put the new Faction through its paces in its final leg of development. Through CID, you can help shape the final models that will hit the tabletop starting at Lock & Load 2017 in July.

This Friday, our fearless Development Manager Oz Schoonover will be posting an Insider that will cover the nuts and bolts of the CID process as well as several key best practices for providing the most effective and useful feedback. In addition, this Insider will link to our Community Integrated Development How-To PDF, which our intrepid Playtest Coordinator Jack Coleman has labored to put together and polish in recent weeks. This detailed guide to the entire CID process will also be stickied for your convenience on our new CID forum.

Oh, did I say new CID forum? Why yes, yes I did.

As part of the launch of CID, we are rolling out a dedicated CID forum, separate and independent from our main forums. The CID forum will be the place to access and discuss the latest CID test rules and to provide feedback, both through discussion threads and via our new CID reporting tool. The Privateer development team will be interacting regularly on this forum, answering questions and partaking in discussion on the latest CID materials.

While the CID forum is not live yet, registration for it will be open on Friday when Oz’s Insider goes live. The Insider on Friday will have a link to the new forums so that you will be ready to go on day one the following week.

In conjunction with the launch of the CID forum we are also undertaking some exciting and long-overdue streamlining of our current forums. More information about this change can be found here. However, one important thing to note is that, in order to allow us to finalize these changes for the launch, all Privateer forums will be offline from March 1 through March 5. The revamped forums will go live again alongside the new CID forum on March 6. 


~What do you think of Privateer’s new community development focus?

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    From what I can tell, they are basically killing the forum as we know it. The forum will just become a place for rules questions and new players. Playtest discussion will go to the CID Forum. All other discussion will go to Facebook.

    There was a HUGE outcry against this on the forums.

    If I had an established forum, I would be jumping for joy as I expanded my forum with the hope of attracting WM/H players to my site.

    • zeno666

      Thats not what I’m reading.
      Sounds to me like they want the CID-threads to be seperate from their Main forum.
      Which I can appreciate so it doesn’t get cluttered with the stuff and can continue business as usual.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        The other posts on their site and on their forums were more specific. Their streamlining is basically going to gut the forums.

        Additionally, after the insider was posted, the mods locked every thread asking for more information and the staff at PP, including the community team, went completely silent.

        • Drpx

          The purge has begun.

        • crazytuco

          And there was something like 48 hours’ notice given. There was a trove of faction-specific information on there, as well as the IKRPG forum that had numerous Play-By-Post games going with no answer one way or another as to if they would survive the changes or be nuked. The whole thing stunk, and a goodly portion of the regulars felt as if they’d basically been given the finger.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            PP really flubbed this one. If they were going to kill the forums they should have just told everyone as much. Yes people would have been angry but that is preferable to nuking the forums with little notice. I mean there were, as you say, PbP games going on and loads of juicy threads that needed to be backed up. It was really unfair of PP to not give more of a notice.

        • V10_Rob

          Tread lightly, PP. These are the sort of self-inflicted wounds that cost GW dearly.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            They really did, long term.

            Granted, it can be difficult to manage a community but owning that community is definitely preferable to farming it to other sites. PP will find they have much less control of and cooperation from the community as a whole when they move the community off site.

            I will grant you things could get heated on the PP forums but everyone there was knowledgeable and well versed in the game. Their passion came from a love of the game. That is definitely not the case on Facebook.

            I also have a sneaking suspicion that the CID forums are going to be micro-managed by PP. Users will not be able to make threads, only comment on threads created by PP, and those threads will be highly curated to remain on topic.

          • crazytuco

            One of the hallmark’s of the PP fan community is their willingness to forgive PP’s flubs and respond with a gracious understanding when PP staff engage the community. The refusal to answer the simplest of questions on this matter (i.e. will the faction-specific forums remain? will the IKRPG forum remain?) would likely have quieted down the most butt-hurt among us even if the answers had not been what the forum users wanted to hear, based on the responses to situations similar to this in the (not too distant) past.

            PP seems to be in a more precarious position than they have been in my memory (going back to when I started playing just before Escalation released). They are less than a year into a new edition of their games and have had multiple SIGNIFICANT changes made to the game over the past several months. Meanwhile, games like Infinity, Malifaux, Guild Ball, and X-Wing continue to maintain or increase their fan base, while at the same time GW, the big fish in the pond, is very near to releasing a new edition of 40k.

            The moves that PP has made recently remind me a good deal of the moves made by GW ten to fifteen years ago that arguably led to the success of PP’s early days by way of a WFB and 40k player exodus.

          • zeno666

            Indeed. Years ago PP was dancing around and using GWs bad decisions to gain ground.
            But now they’re really starting to feel more and more like GW :
            Very sad.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            There is no doubt in my mind that the new edition was shoved out the door way too early. It was not ready for prime time.

            To me, it feels like MK3 was a last ditch effort to stave off some financial woes in the face of growing competition from other smaller games and a resurgent GW.

            It probably staved off the woes in the short term but long term the edition has been fraught with problems. You should not have to update tons of cards right out the gate, let alone a whole faction.

            I love the game but it is not in the best place right now.

            Hopefully things will turn around once the Grymkinn come out.

          • V10_Rob

            “You vill talk about our game, only our game, and only in zee properly proscribed forum. Vhen we ask you a question that impacts our product marketing, you will answer immediately, truthfully and enthusiastically. Anyzing zat does not conform to our carefully regulated community guidelines is verboten.”

            Hey guys, did you see that…

            “Silence! You vill only speak when spoken to, or zere will be… consequences.”

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