40K BREAKING: The Dark Imperium

Games Workshop talks about the purpose of the Primaris Space Marines – It’s the Indomitus Crusade vs The Dark Imperium!

When Games Workshop showed off the Galactic Map I noted that planets like Baal were on the opposite side of the Cicatrix Maledictum and that things were not looking good for them. Well now GW is back with some more teasers on just what exactly is going on and it sounds like things have gone to hell, literally.

via Warhammer Community

Perhaps an optimist, but never a fool, Guilliman learned from the Horus Heresy, and he foresaw that the forces of Chaos would never relent in their aim to bring the Imperium low. He anticipated that devastating times would once again engulf the galaxy and knew that warriors resilient enough to stand against them would be needed as never before. That time has surely come.

Travel through the Cicatrix Maledictum is all but impossible, but sporadic contact has been made, through temporary warp-routes, to a few of the best-defended worlds on the other side – and things are not looking good.

On the far side of the galaxy-spanning warp storm, things have quite literally gone to hell.

There, the light of the Astronomicon is obscured behind a psychic maelstrom of nightmares and the entire region has been dubbed ‘Imperium Nihilus’, or the Dark Imperium.

Read the full breakdown of the Dark Imperium HERE

Cut off from the Imperium, stranded on the “Dark Side” of the galaxy, and a hive fleet heading straight for them the Blood Angels are in a world of hurt right now. Now the question will be if they have the resolve to weather the storm and survive long enough for their reinforcements to arrive. On top of that, once the Indomitus Crusade gets there, will it be enough to make a difference?

These are the questions I’m asking as we learn more about the Dark Imperium. Who knows what other horrors are happening on the other side of the galaxy. Entire systems could be falling to Chaos worship, barbarism, and madness. Human Sacrifices, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!

Or maybe we’re just being Debbie Downers – I’m sure everyone on the far side of the galaxy is fine. Probably ushering a new age of peace and prosperity. Heck, they are probably developing new, safe ways to travel the warp. Yeah…No more Grim-Dark at all…

Yeah, right…


Are you looking forward to finding out what the heck is going on with the Dark Imperium? What else are you looking forward to learn in the new lore for 8th edition?

  • Private Skittles

    What’s with all of these labels man? Dark, light, just pick a few Imperiums and let’s party!

  • Terran side of the Cicatrix Maledictum : Lighter grimdark
    Other side of the Cicatrix Maledictum : Grimmer, darker grimdark

    • Antonim

      Ultra-Ultramarines to the rescue!

    • Heinz Fiction

      The political situation more or less resembles that of germany between 1945 and 1990: The eastern part is cut off by an impregnable wall and everything looks rather bleak over there…

      • euansmith

        But on our side we have Nukacola and Rokknroll.

      • Alienerd the unbannable

        And Roboute Hasselhoff is here to break through.

        • Me

          He stole the show in the Sponge Marine movie!

    • Ronin

      It’s good for narrative flexibility since players can have a broader spectrum of grim dark to choose from.

      • Philippe Lego

        50 shades of grimdark 😉

        Doh. Someone beat me to it… back to my cave

    • NovaeVox

      Tim Burton’s Dark Millennium/Christopher Nolan’s Dark Millennium

      • Xodis

        That’s actually highly accurate lol.

    • Jonathan B.

      The Terran side – white meat
      The Baal side – dark meat

  • TheWanderingJewels

    I sense GrimDerp in the offing

  • Walter Vining

    who let the dogs out?

  • ILikeToColourRed

    chaos is doing well for once

    here comes a new hero to save us yay, wins everything without struggle

    meanwhile: we cant support another marine faction without cutting one of the existing ones, which one do you suggest?

    • GrogDaTyrant

      Knowing GW, they’ll probably cut Orks to fit a new marine faction. It’s the logical choice, since they ruined them beyond the Suck Black-Hole’s Event Horizon.

    • Karru

      Space Wolves and Blood Angels gets dropped and “replaced” with Guilmarines. GW can pull the classic “you can still use them as Vanilla Marines, just imagine they are survivors of their Chapters tragic destruction”.

      • AircoolUK

        Well, that would be sad. I’m not a big fan or Blood Angels or Spacewolves, they seemed to have drifted from their origins to please the Buffy The Vampire Slayer crowd.

        They never really agreed with me, a bit of a gimmick.

        • bfmusashi

          The Blood Angels have long been known for their snappy banter.

        • euansmith

          They would have got away with it too, if it hadn’t been from those pesky ‘nids.

      • Gunther Clone C

        Don’t…don’t even tease. The loss of my pups would be too great. T^T.

      • euansmith

        “These are sad Blood Angels; sad that they survived the destruction of their Chapter. These are angry Space Wolves; angry that they survived the destruction of their Chapter. See, the fluff is progressing.”

        • Darth Bumbles

          AS long as we get Lukas Strifeson as the surviving ranking Member of the Vlka Fenryka, and thus de facto Great Wolf I’ll be happy.

        • Ebsolom

          I wonder if that would bring about the MegaDeath Company? : /

          • euansmith

            😀 Fantastic!

    • Donovan Palmer

      please don’t fool yourself. The Special Snowflake marines supposedly have super pure purest of pure gene seed from the specialest of special people the primarchs, all of them.

      That means that they will be on their way to make safe spaces in every space marine chapter which of course means firing the existing employees and hiring a new staff of all snowflake marines.

      To translate… All marines are dead. Don’t listen to GW’s lies.

      • georgelabour

        So the Imperium will become like UC Berkeley?

        Wow..that is not only even more grim dark but will involve magnitude more witch burnings…

      • David Leimbach

        As long as Orks become ANTIFA, we’ll be ok.

  • Horus84cmd

    Hmm interesting road to take. Give the Imperium half the 40k universe and the other half to chaos (and assorted others).

    • Derek Lee

      Hey Chaos, welcome to the material world. Now you are going to have to start paying rent like the rest of us as well as dealing with the Nids and Necrons, have fun!

      • Trey

        Will be fun when all the Daemons attached to a Chaos force just … blink out .. as the Nid Shadow cuts them off.

      • Frey Jepson

        That is a very good point. Chaos is going to be harried now that they are balls deep in the crap storm of the Imperium.

  • Deacon Ix

    50 shades of Grim Dark?

  • Xodis

    Sounds fun, but I honestly hope this isn’t the main “preview” for today lol

    • Farseerer

      haha, I know right. Not much there at all

    • BaboonKing

      Well, it says “We’ll be back tomorrow with more news on rules in the new Warhammer 40,000, as we take a look at teleporting and reserves.”

      • Xodis

        Ugh…must have glazed over that. If they are not going to tease anything worth teasing than just release it already lol

    • Gorsameth

      They have to ‘tease’ something for another ~25 days.
      Not enough rules in 8th edition to fill that time.

      • Xodis

        There are at LEAST 25 different units that could be teased lol.

  • Farseerer

    This is obviously concrete proof that the entire BA model range is about to be cut to make room for the new marines we saw yesterday.

    • yorknecromancer

      Surely more likely that Blood Angels get Chaotic ‘successor’ chapters which are all full-on vampires? With that classic ‘flayed man’ Astorath the Grim-style armour inspired by the suit Dracula wears in the Coppola film?

      Which, and let’s be fair here, would be utterly awesome.

      • Xodis

        Well, Im sold.

      • euansmith

        “Ze Chapter Master duz not dvink… vine…”

        • Trey

          but he loves the night life….

          • euansmith

            He loves to boogie.

      • georgelabour

        To be fair..I’d buy at least one squad of guys in that style of armor.

        And then we could get frag cannone and librarian dreadnoughts for all the other astartes to boot.

    • Scatter 667

      i don’t think they are goining to squat any of the marine chapters. After all its there cash cow and blood angels specifically got new stuff rather recently. I think the fluff will evolve and new stuff will be added. Time will tell if the old sculpts will be fased out, but i don’t think so for the new future. Given the fact that Deathwatch was added and still people don’t really picked it up and added them to their armies.
      The Blood Angels will be fine, but they will take heavy losses in the battles to come. Interesting times…

      • Trey

        being cut off they may either get permission or take it on themselves to “upsize” the chapter Black Templar style.

  • rtheom

    If they want to be really cool, in a couple years they’ll have the big warp rift begin to dissipate, and the Imperium wonders what happened. They send out scouting vessels only to find that the Hive Fleets have consumed everything behind the rift and grown so large that they literally snuff out the warp storms via the Shadow in the Warp as they advance. 😀

    • euansmith

      And then it is all hands on deck! Man the pumps! All factions combine in to two Grand Alliances; Us and THEM.

      • bfmusashi

        Stop positing a Radmaggedon that can never be. It gives false hope ; ;

        • georgelabour

          False hope is the first step off the road of disappointment…

          and onto the trail of impotent rage.

      • Trey

        Necrons .. you take point! (heck y’all hate live things even their bullets are live!)

        • euansmith

          “01000110 01101100 01100101 01110011 01101000 01100010 01101111 01110010 01100101 01110010 01110011 00111111 00100000 01000100 01101111 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101100 01100001 01110101 01100111 01101000 00101110 00100000 01000001 01100011 01101011 00100000 01000001 01100011 01101011 00100000 01000001 01100011 01101011 00100000 01000001 01100011 01101011 00101110”

          • Trey

            So you are ticklish to flesh borers?

  • BaronVonYoloing

    Is it really breaking news when it takes you guys nearly 2 hours to make an article like this? Surely it doesn’t take that long to write 4 paragraphs of speculation? (mostly covered in said article already?)

    • Derek Lee

      I come here for the comments and not the articles, well the speculation articles anyway. A post on one of those articles actually broke the new marine link before BoLS had it’s three( one good one and two watered down speculation stories).

    • Ulrik

      Wow, people will complain about everything. I feel you are entitled to faster writing on BOLS?
      If you read the Warhammer Community article, Im now sure what you are complaining about. You have the information. If you didnt, than it doesnt matter…unless some of your frined mocked you because of (horrible!) being uniformed for whole two hours!

      Or…you are just annoying spiteful guy who feel waning excitement to sit on high horse. And not realizing its not horse, but pig and not high, only covered in manure.

      TL:DR – Give me (and them) a break with such childish behaviour.

  • Karru

    A good way to replace old SM collections with the new ones I guess. Kill off the old marines, but “save” their heritage in the lore by making them part of the new Guilmarines GW gets two birds with one stone right there. They give a lore reason why BA suddenly only has Guilmarines so people will have to get ready to replace their old collections in time.

    It’s either that or BA just gets “miraculously” saved at the last minute from total annihilation. Then their model line continues to exist, but nothing new will be gained because Baal is gone so all new BA are Guilmarines.

    • SilentPony

      Or the Eldar just show up and magically bring Sanguinius back to life. ’cause they can bring dead people back to life now.

      • georgelabour

        And return rubric marines to normal. Don’t forget about that.

    • Derek Lee

      Chapters aren’t always “miraculously” saved. Sometimes they all really do die and the Imperium secretly cobbles together a 200 marine company and says, “Look, they are totally fine and only need a few hundred years to replenish”.

      • euansmith

        Maybe there is a actual Chapter of Stand-In Marines who get assigned to bridge the gap while the shattered Chapter is rebuilt.

        “Who are we this time?”

        “Crimson Fists.”


        • Derek Lee

          I like to think that between the time of Thunderwarriors and Geneseed Astartes there was a time where the Emperor just sent crates of power armor and bolters to Guardsmen with a note saying “This armor makes you 33.3% better” and Russ was still once just a man. Pretty much all the retcon material can still be true, but the circumstances have gotten stranger since the first time it got published.

          • bfmusashi

            I blame warp/real space interfaces. That and/or each edition is a separate cycle of creation.

          • Trey

            Very ReWrite. (Key Anime) so would that make the Emperor or Eldrad kagari ?

          • bfmusashi

            The dress makes me think Immortal God Emperor of Mankind.
            I was thinking more Evangelion since it sometimes is about giving the fans exactly what they want so they choke on it and hopefully consider what terrible people they are 🙂

          • Trey

            ReWrite has more options.. and I have a deep dislike of eva… especially after reading the red cross book

          • bfmusashi

            Key’s never been my bag but I’ll try to give them another go 🙂
            No one’s supposed to like End of Eva. It’s amazing.

          • Trey

            oh Its no end of Eva.. its Eva as a whole. but ReWrite is 2 very different stories (related) season to season I like the first more but both are good.

          • Derek Lee

            Yeah on warp travel, sometimes you might pop out before you even enter it and sometimes the imperial bureaucrats tell the reinforcement Marines to paint themselves the wrong chapter before the original guys enter the warp to return to reserve.

    • Muninwing

      no, Navigators will remember that the galaxy is 3-dimensional, and they will find ways to sail around the warprift… that’s my bet.

      especially in the center, where it is much much wider.

      why are they trying to make this seem like someone’s middle school D&D campaign?

      • Karru

        Because that’s exactly what it is. Both AoS and new 40k lore is comparable to your stereotypical D&D story a new GM would write. Very bland, filled with clichés and repetitive events. They have lost all their good writers over the years so they have no real talent on board any more. They only have their BL writers, but they are focusing on HH and their BL books. The game lore is in the hands of monkeys with typewriters.

  • SilentPony

    Oh the drama! Oh the suspense! Will Games Workshop kill off an entire range of models, fully 1/4 of the interesting chapters?!
    OH OH! I can’t take it! I have to know!

    This is just like the Space Wolves almost sorta basically totes for realz Pinkie Promise being destroyed, I’m serious guys, in Warzone Fenris.
    And GW totally didn’t just write a single paragraph saying ‘Yeah, they won. All good’

    • GnomesForge

      Yikes. Pushing the cringe bar there.

  • Shawn Shaggy Symes

    And the xenos get to sit at the kiddy table.

  • Trey

    The Dark Emperium will have a lot more freedom of action for commanders and Chapters.

    RG might re make the Imperial Army!

    I know this will not happen in game, but if a Marine chapter say the blood angels have access to A.M. equipment and less access to Marine I can see Marines in Chimera and Griffons replacing whirlwind.

    A.M. would be stripped of most bolters as ammo would be diverted to SM use so maybe a ground mount multi-laser could be a “alternative standard” to Heavy bolters.

    With less transport capability weapons that use less physical ammo may well become prized. las gun and muti-las lascannon and grav guns for infantry and laser destroyer las rapier at a heavyer level.

    and orbital bombardment via rocks. see footfall by nivin and pournell

    The Inquisition may be a tad less xenos phobic as chaos attacks both man and alien.

    Warp travel will be just as hard for chaos as the nids dark zone affects things.

    Where the nids are not blocking things there will be local beacons made my astropaths so smaller warp transits will be possible a series of lesser Astronomican may well be assembled in the dark Emperium.

    • euansmith

      The idea of local Beacons is rather cool. They would form natural trade routes and give structure to any war being fought in the area.

      • Trey

        And give GW a BIG campaign modeled on the Mid-Pacific in WWII

        • euansmith

          “From the Halls of Monty Zoomork, to the Shores of Tyranidanee.”

  • Agent OfBolas

    Super Smurfs 🙂

  • EnTyme

    So Dakkadakka has officially dubbed the Nu Marines the Adeptus Restartes. Just thought I’d share.

    • ragelion

      Funny enough I was getting ready to start blood angels for 8th, then primaris space marines come along and now? I am going to stick to my original plan and do necrons.

  • joetwocrows

    and what about the Webway?

    • The Webwhat? That stuff is heretic xenos tech.

  • The Basement Gamer

    Then how is it that the Blood Angels can field the new Supermarines?

    • ragelion

      There is a section in the article that states contact can be made. Honestly this story just seems like an excuse to devastate the blood angels so they can fill them out with primaris. Something similar happened to the space wolves wrath of magnus everyone?

    • georgelabour

      Sea turtles mate.

  • Bellumvinco

    I’m still waiting to see a pic of a Primaris Marine standing next to a Astartes Marine.

    • YetAnotherFacelessMan

      Here you go. They aren’t much bigger and blend right in.


      • MechBattler

        They do look like they fill up that 32mm base a little more. The models basically just have more realistically sized legs right? At least, that’s the way it looks to me.

        • YetAnotherFacelessMan

          Pretty much! ^_^

          Also, the sergeant seems to be on a terminator base to accommodate his rad pose.

  • Chris Elie

    Is anyone going to give any credit to the obvious Ghostbusters quote or should we just ignore it….. because I feel like it need to be recognized..

  • Horus Lupercal

    Angels convert to chaos to destroy the tyranids repent later…

  • Angus MacKenzie

    “No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there’s nothing to be afraid of.”
    – The Emperor

  • bubba9000

    Primarus Marines is the laziest most uninteresting idea ever. I can’t believe GW actually did this. There were so many other ways they could have gone, stabilization of Blood Angel gene seed (maybe later in the story arch), new method of developing Space Marines that’s more efficient allowing for greater numbers, maybe Guilliman suspending the size limitation on Chapters, new technology…anything but bigger better Space Marines that essentially invalidates or at the very least diminishes the existing lore. Terrible move GW.

    • archangeleong

      Agree entirely. By the way this is m y first bout of nerd rage ever in all the years of the interwebs so it must have really touched a sore point …

    • GnomesForge

      Agreed. Smacks of lazy market driven “writing.” Didn’t GW say that their IP was the most important asset they had? Whoops. Why did they bother spending all the time legally harassing peaceful citizens for violating ‘copyright’ lol over their plagiarized mish mash if they were just going to throw it to the dogs anyways?

    • sonny2dap .

      yeah thing is we all know they have to sell kits, we all get that but why not be like here’s a new mark of power armour and some new weapons/vehicles these are the brain child of girlyman and look how super awesome the new designs are, pretty much everyone I think could get behind that, but super super soldiers is just uninspired.

    • Devourer

      Agreed. I feel really bad for all the once great heroes of all the chapters that are now the “deprecated” old guys.

  • Viper666

    The real question is how they’ll explain to us how the Blood Angels will have Primaris Sigmarines everywhere in their ranks if they are cut off Terra and Mars…

  • Lumpenprole

    All set for the second coming of Jesus Sanguinius, I reckon.

  • GnomesForge

    Nothing like AoS. They only blew up HALF the universe.

  • Ryan Miller

    Dark Imperium, Light Imperium, deyz all gunna get a krump’n! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • David Leimbach

    Will the mix of marine sizes ruin the aesthetic of the game? Personally scale has always mattered to me. While not perfect, so far I’ve been able to overlook the variations and inconsistencies. But now… for instance – Imperial Guard standing next to ogryn look like they belong. How about regular-marine next to primaris? If my army is all regulars and my opponent all primaris, does it look stupid? So far we haven’t seen any images of mixed groups. This I think will be the real test.

  • Johan Strandh

    I LOVE the Ghostbusters quote. LOVE IT.