Warhammer Fest 2017: The Heresy On Display

Games Workshop shows off some of the sweet new Forge World Models that will be available at Warhammer Fest 2017!

Heresy Era fans get ready for Warhammer Fest 2017! Forge World will be on hand to tempt you with some new awesome looking resin miniatures. Plus the GW crew will talk about the Fate of Warhammer in the Age of Heresy!

via Warhammer Community

Legio Custodes Telemon Heavy Dreadnought

“This guy towers over even a Contemptor Dreadnought, with a bulk comparable to the Leviathan class, but in an artificer wrought hull. That would be deadly enough, but it’s also piloted by one of the Emperor’s personal warrior bodyguards – this guy is going to kick face.”

“..here’s the Crimson King next to one of his little brothers.”

“Since the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 was announced, we’ve had questions about the future of the Horus Heresy game. Warhammer 40,000 models from Forge World, as we already know, will get full rules for the new edition, but what about those games set in the bloody time of the Age of Darkness?

Well, we can let you all know today, Forge World will be talking about the future of Horus Heresy games at Warhammer Fest this year.”

 

Well that’s some great news for Horus Herey Fans. I know a few of them have been chomping at the bit to learn what GW has planned for their beloved Horus Heresy armies. Will they also get new rules for 8th or are they going to continue down the current ruleset? Based on how Games Workshop has been handling the 8th Edition roll-out so far, I’m pretty sure they have been giving this one a LOT of thought.

If you want to be the first to know then you’re going to have to attend Warhammer Fest 2017. This year promises to be packed full of some crazy good times for fans of Warhammer 40k, The Horus Heresy, Age of Sigmar, and Forge World!

 

How do you think GW and Forge World will handle the Age of Darkness moving forward?

  • Kinsman

    So happy we’re getting plastic Primarchs. These look derpy.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Leman looks great IRL. The pictures are just taken from weird angles.

    • Muninwing

      i’ve seen one i didn’t like — yodeling Fulgrim. and it made far more sense when placed with its pair in a combat scene vs Ferrus.

      the FW Rowboat is much better quality than the new plastic one. Which is nice (and which i’ll get to eventually), but is just not the same level of quality.

      a lot of it is angle, and seeing it in person instead of a flattened image.

  • OldHat

    UGH. An announcement for an announcement. Just tell us what is happening to our beloved Heresy, GW! I am a Millennial and I can’t wait 27 days for info – I need it now!

    • Walter Vining

      its getting 40k’d

      • OldHat

        I am hoping it is an official announcement of a new rulebook from Forge World “Age of Darkness: The Rules” or some crap, which will be a revised 7th Ed, because 30k is pretty darn balanced right now (ignoring the 500lbs canister of Phosphex in the room).

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          I too am betting they will just revise 7th edition and release their own rulebook.

          • Walter Vining

            no its been confirmed that it will go to 8th eventually

          • Shawn

            Where, when, and by who?

          • Walter Vining

            Twitter, last week, pete Foley who’s doing the rules. #make30k8thagain

          • Shawn

            Gotcha. Thanks.

        • Shawn

          I’d argue that it’s easy to balance marine vs marine.

          • OldHat

            It is a lot easier, though they do have more than just Marines. AdMech, Knights, Militia, Solar Auxilia, Talons. Yet, they have done a very good job at keeping any one faction from being top dog. Got to applaud FW’s rules team.

  • SilentPony

    They can’t move Horus Heresy to 8th. They already said its staying in 7th. Not even GW has the balls to tell everyone their $100 black leather codex is not obsolete.

    • Walter Vining

      they said that it WILL happen, just not right away. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • SilentPony

        Then they’re gonna lose more players with 8th than they did when they did Age of Sigmar.

        • Walter Vining

          good. less people to make the hobby terrible. and cheap stuff on ebay. or models that are burned to make other stuff worth more. awesome. love it. leave.

          • SilentPony

            You know its a bad thing when people leave a hobby, right?
            Ask a Fantasy player. If you can find one.

          • Walter Vining

            I can find a sigmar game much easier than I could ever find a fantasy one. Funny sigmar is far out performing fantasy, and in some cases and markets its even out performing 40k. Must be doing something right.
            And into Felicia he said, “fare thee well”

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Shrinking player numbers are bad for everyone.

          • Walter Vining

            so are people who whine about the game and any changes that happen to it. I would rather less people that don’t complain as much than tons of people with tons of complainers.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            People who are invested in something are bound to complain when it is mishandled. That is human nature.

          • Walter Vining

            how much do you want for your stuff?

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I’m not likely to give up entirely, but perhaps bow out of 8th, depending on how it plays. Its funny, I expected the guys where I play to be really looking forward to 8th, but the prevailing mood was pessimistic or cautious. There was a lot of talk about continuing to play 7th, and how we weren’t bored with it and that none of the problems people talk about were really a problem in a small group of friends who wanted to get along.

            My club is just starting to get into 30K, talking about building armies, which lists and books to use, and this change is a huge obstacle that has stopped everyone in their tracks.

            Anyhow it seems I’ll have plenty of company if I don’t want to play 8th. I suspect we’ll keep 7th going in parallel to 8th, the way I still see people playing 8th WHFB as well as 9th Age, KoW and AoS. It will be interesting to see if anyone develops a smarter version of 7th. With luck it might be FW with a version tailored for 30K.

          • Shawn

            Interesting Knight. Overhear, I used to see WHF games every Saturday a decade ago and that only lasted a couple of years. However, people have been playing 40k all the time. Now people are getting into AoS more and more, while still playing 40k.
            Also, folks here are all looking forward to 8th edition.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            its bound to vary depending on gaming group. Games get popular or disappear due to very local conditions. My experience over the last 6 years after returning to gaming has shown that.

            My first club 6 years ago (south central England) lost all its warhammer players after 6th/8th, and there were only 3 of us left playing 40K although there were about 20 guys who had played. They had switched almost entirely to historicals or Dystopian Wars/X-Wing with very occasional WHFB8 and LoTR games. Then my second club (South West England)had a variety with everything being played including 40K, 9th Age, KoW, AoS, X-Wing, DW, Infinity and WHFB8. My current club on a Scottish island is much smaller, there is wall to wall blood bowl at the moment due to a league happening, but I’ve also seen D&D, CofC 15mm WWII, X-Wing, Silver Tower and there are a half dozen regular 40K players. Not seen any fantasy games yet.

          • Shawn

            Yeah, I can relate. I’ve been all over the country and what’s played is different everywhere. I was just surprised that no one in your club looked forward to 8th. Seems kind of strange to me with most of the problems that crop up with 7th, the disparity between armies (and factions withing armies like my Iron Hands..

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I don’t think those things are such a problem in a small established group.

          • Shawn

            No doubt. And I think, if the clubs in Britain, are like traditional clubs, I can see where a general consensus and feel of the game for the group would mitigate any problems with the game set. I also like that coming from an rpg background. Ally my years playing rpgs it was second nature to come up with house rules you liked or tweaked those rules that you felt the designer erred. For some reason, at least in my area, and I think many other wargamers in the U.S., aren’t very keen on using house rules. They balk at anything that doesn’t make their codex better. A shame really.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I think a cultural difference does account for some issues people outside the UK have with 40K. I don’t mean to dismiss balance issues though, we feel those badly too, they definitely affect the fun level, since most people on some level do play to win. When an army you collect is wildly unpowered or overpowered it is a problem, but not as much as it would be in a pick up game situation.

          • Shawn

            Agreed. I can’t say for other areas of my state or the rest of the country really, but have the general sense that there aren’t any clubs like you have in England, not unless it’s in a university. I think that would be great if we had something like that here, then if we were thirsty or something we could have a pint or two.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            sadly, unlike the last two clubs my current club meets in a church hall, so no beer for sale. Can always sneak some in with me though 🙂

          • Shawn

            Good enough!

          • Andrew

            Trust me your not the only one, the vast majority of people I have spoken with plan on staying with 7th edition. Out of the 30 plus players I have spoken with only 2 are exited about playing 8th edition. The vast majority of players care a lot more about variety and having armies with different rules making them unique. Most people realize that in order to have diverse armies sometimes you might have to deal with imbalance, also most people love what GW has been doing the last 5 years, with the release of Primarchs, Titans, Flyers, Formations, Diverse range of Psychic Powers, these allow for a wide range of games to be played, and even peope who sometimes like to play more even games realize that a quick discussion before the start of the game limiting what army list they bring is more then sufficient, their is no reason to dumb down the game for everyone else.
            Something that GW is finally realizing after speaking to my friend in their design team, after last week they are realizing that the only reason that 7th edition didn’t seem that popular is because that the small minority of people displeased with the current edition where a lot more vocal online then those that where happy with the current edition.
            But what GW should have done to placate the petulant children was release all the codex’s before working on any of the campaign books. All the armies that had a 7th edition release where very balanced with one another and all that was missing what Orks and Tyranids. But perhaps that would not have even satisfied them, because whenever you speak with someone who complains about the balance of the game it becomes abundantly clear that the only thing that would placate them was if all armies had the same rules and same unit profiles, and that models should just be aesthetically different. In fact a few weeks ago I was playing with one of my 30k armies and one of these type people came up to me and said that if it wasn’t for the Primarchs, legion specific rules and units then 30k would be a perfect game.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I think you are right on all counts. People complained about 7th, but it wasn’t the core rules they were complaining about but the army construction. Even though, as you say, that could be sorted with some communication. I think the people who suffered most were Americans who tend to have pick-up games in stores without prior arrangement.

            I feel worried about 30K, just as we were getting into it! I have 100 MkIIIs ready to roll!

            There were loads of things that could have been simplified, some of the things that are happening I have advocated for years, such as a M characteristic and the unification of vehicle and monster etc rules into a single system. There was no need for that to mean the loss of detail though, simple rules could have ensured armour facings and weapon types were still important and that vehicles felt different to monsters. Seems GW have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

            Assault, likewise, was always too complex, but simplification can easily go too far. Seems the new system is too gamey and too far from the simulation/RPG roots of 40K to really keep the mood of 40k.

          • Shawn

            Definitely agree with the first paragraph Knight. Can’t say too much the rest as I’m more of a recent addition to war gaming and 40k. However, it does make some sense. Although Shadow War Armageddon is giving met that rpg vibe that I like.

          • Shawn

            I think you are right to a degree. While 7th is mostly a good system and really only needed a tweaking in my book, I still feel that there was too great a disparity between armies. Player’s shouldn’t have to have a discussion regarding how and what to play because the game designer was too lazy to play test it.
            Also, that diversity isn’t going away. You’ll still be able to buy war gear for each unit when you do Matched play. Having awesome new toys to play with is great, but most folks certainly don’t have fun in a one sided fight, especially in tournaments. And while you can say you and your opponent can discuss what to play, then that person may never get to run his Titan because the opponents will away say no, because they don’t have anything to deal with it. This is where a balanced system is great because now you can get all those awesome toys and be able to play them too.

            I think the new edition is one of the best approaches GW could have done. Not only is the new system get extensive play testing, it will also have the rules continuously updated and tweaked for balance. In this regard, it is better to start from the ground up.

          • Andrew

            What about the people who Whined and Complained about 7th edition and the balance of the game, going as far as crying after losing a game, should they have left.

          • Walter Vining

            how much do you want for your stuff?

    • Alexis Thouin Bourdeau

      Every party needs a party pooper.

      • SilentPony

        Yeah, duh. GW has been trying to poo-poo this party for years.

    • Leif Leegard

      That, and they have to find a way to incorporate expensive Titans people bought into the new rule set so their guns can hit more then just one unit per turn, before they get ballsy and change to 8th…

    • Chet Atkinson
      • DJ860

        Forced myself to read the article, which as a dog owner, made my blood boil and my skin crawl.

        I think though, considering the implications, if you’re going to suggest that GW are by-proxy, using dog leather, you should probably have a little more information/data to back it up than an article referencing how gloves are made from dog skin taken in China.

    • Talos2

      They’re not obsolete. The rules have already changed in the red books for some stuff anyway. The black books are there for the fluff and the campaign systems, which will still work.

      • Chayuth

        All the stats will be obsolete as soon as they change the rules to 8th.

  • orionburn

    What’s the weapon on the Dread? Assuming something specific to the 30k world?

    • Leif Leegard

      Something new just for it, more then likely. Looks like a twinlinked Gatling Laz cannon array.

      • SilentPony

        Looks like a plasma minigun to me

        • Leif Leegard

          Looks like classic Laz tubs on the drum. don’t se the normal dangly bulb thing that plasma usually gets.

        • Walter Vining

          looks unbalanced. #make30kgreatagain #8thedition30know

      • orionburn

        The ribs on the barrels do make it look like a laz weapon. Looks cool as hell whatever it is. The power fist is kind of boring, but the rest of the model is fantastic.

    • Aura1

      Probably an Adrathic weapon given they’ve invented those as ‘banned for everyone but the Custodes’ in recent fluff. They also fit the ‘look we know this looks like a projectile weapon but it totally fires destructor beams after we realised giving the Custodians bolters was a bit lame but the sculptors were done months ago…’

  • Crablezworth

    I’m not exactly looking forward to GW invalidating a collection 140$ books… but I guess that’s just “toxicity” or whatever the sheep are going with these days

    • Shawn

      Unfortunately, that’s the nature of wargames and rpgs. They’ll always move on to another edition. At least from now on, it will be a living rules document that changes as needed without having to overhaul the system continually.

  • Graham Roden

    I’d settle with 7.5. Take some of the good bits from 8th and blend them into 7th. -1 to hit for moving with heavy weapons, He who initiated close combat gets to go first (watch firedrakes destroy everything), change vehicles to a wound pool. Simple changes that alter very little but speed an already balanced game up more.

  • euansmith

    I wonder if Dreadnoughts are ever brought out of their slumber, to find that someone has drawn eye-brows on their sarcophagus?

    • ikari_kun2002

      Venerable Brother Thorki from the webcomic Lost In Space woke up with a smiley face…

    • Matthew Pomeroy

      pity the brother who did it 😀

    • MechBattler

      Some drunk Blood Claws probably did it to Bjorn every so often.

  • Admiral Raptor

    30k always made the best of 7th edition. Games were fun despite the bad 7th ed BRB. I’ll be happy when it moves to 8th alongside 40k.

    Funny to see all of the folks bent out of shape that their books are going to be obsolete. They must lack any kind of pattern recognition.

    • vlad78

      Who will buy the big black ones if they make them obsolete before finishing the heresy?

  • am1t

    The Heavy Dreadnought aesthetic is looks like a Privateer-press mini IMHO … stupid and ugly.