40K Rumor: New Space Marine Launch Kits

One of the oldest rumormongers is chiming in with more info on the upcoming Space Marine Launch kits!

75hastings69 is back with more intel on what the Primaris Space Marines are bringing in the new edition:

Take with salt…

via 75hastings69

AFAIK “Initially” there are 4 boxes of “troops/infantry/marines” (including the flying ones), 2 vehicles, the Dread, and 2 “character” sets, which I assume will be captains and Lieutenants. As for when I rarely dare to dabble in such things (especially after the timing of the plastic thunderhawk release…. which might still actually not be wrong, just my guess at the timing thanks to the “we’ve sold our last resin thunderhawk” making me jump to conclusions!). I will say I am “expecting” Death Guard to release after the boxed set and for new marines to be closely behind them….. however I could be wrong of course 😉

BTW I also never thought I’d be starting let alone be excited about an army of SM, however as the new marines range is small and not overwhelming and I like the armour and overall style I am going to start a SM army, just not sure what chapter yet.

So let’s break this down really quick – we know of the following kits are coming:

Intercessors

Hellblasters

Inceptors

Captain in Gravis Armour

Ancients

Primaris Lieutenants

Those are all the Primaris Space Marines from the box set. We’ve also seen the following two kits in picture form:

Redemptor Dreadnought

Repulsor Tank

 

4 boxes of “troops/infantry/marines” (including the flying ones), 2 vehicles, the Dread, and 2 “character” sets, which I assume will be captains and Lieutenants.

 

If this rumor pans out, that means so far we’ve seen 3 of the 4 Infantry boxes, 1 vehicle, the Dreadnought, the Captain, Lieutenants, and the Ancients. Now, I’m guessing that the Lieutenants and Ancients probably share a kit. That means we’re looking for at least 1 more infantry unit and another vehicle. That sounds pretty plausible in my book.

Now if we get our tin-foil hats on we can start to take some wild guesses at what those missing kits could be. One piece of tech that GW is dangling in front of everyone is the Gravis Armour. It would make sense that we get a unit box for more Gravis Marines – which could be the “Terminator equivalent” unit. (They aren’t Terminators, btw – as a reader pointed out there is no Crux Terminatus…)Also, the Primaris releases thus far haven’t really had any close-combat focused unit. Maybe we’ll see some type of Assault Primaris unit. Maybe it will be Gravis Armour Marines with Assault Weapons – who knows!

Of the vehicles, we’re missing one kit (again, if this rumor pans out). The Repulsor seems to be an all around tank. It’s obviously got transport capacity for the Primaris Marines and the fire power of a Predator. So the question becomes what combat role would the next kit fit? Could it be a Primaris Drop Pod? They could use some type of rapid-deployment option. Perhaps a Primaris Flyer? That would give them some air support and possibly some transport capacity, too. What about a jet-bike? They seem to be all about the “high-tech” options.

Whatever the case, it’s a pretty safe bet to assume that the Primaris line of Space Marines is not done and there are more on the way. What will those extra kits be? Time will tell…and don’t forget the Death Guard are brining some more friends too.

 

Well folks, what do you think the newer kit will be? Let us know in the comments below!

  • ja_kub_sz

    So what your saying is there won’t be plastic Sisters of Battle being released before I have grand children?

    • memitchell

      “Look, Grampa! GW just announced plastic Sisters of Battle!”

      “Grampa? Grampa! Somebody call 911!”

      • ZeeLobby

        Super depressing, but super likely, lol.

    • Rayna M. McCowan

      At this point I am to the point of getting Dreamforge Valkir’s with 40k weapons and female heads instead of waiting on GW for plastic SoB or pay out the nose for metal ones. I love the sculpts, but, not that much.

    • Spacefrisian

      Have some ugly deathguard instead so you can be proud of your crappy paintjob and win prices with it no matter how bad you try to make it.

  • ja_kub_sz

    ???? Didn’t think so…. 😕

  • Mike X (Official)

    Those aren’t Space Marines, they’re Space Marine Primaris – which, according to even Games Workshop, are an entirely different faction.

    • ZeeLobby

      LoL. this joke never gets old!

    • Coltcabunny

      That’s not a Space Marine, that’s a picture of a Space Marine!

  • I hope the legs on the dread aren’t fixed, it would be nice to vary poses.

    • SPlatte

      They don’t seem to be fixed. The 2 Dreads they have shown on the event (was it WarhammerFest?) have different poses. The toes seem to be poseable as well as one of the foots was tip-toeing.

  • ZeeLobby

    Damn flying Nikes!

    • OldHat

      I can hear them swooshing about the table.

    • Ludwig Hesselbach

      What are you referring too?

      • ZeeLobby

        That hover shoe primaris fly in!

    • georgelabour

      Well anti-gravity surf boards were astartes gear back in Rogue Trader so…..

      • ZeeLobby

        Why they haven’t made grav suppositories is beyond me.

        • georgelabour

          If FFG had only just renewed their license long enough to get a new edition of the Rogue Trader RPG out…

      • But back in rogue trader Marines were criminals and prisoners. Back to the roots!?

        • Muninwing

          … so they were all Night Lords?

        • georgelabour

          They already have.

          In the carcarodons novel they travel to a prison planet in order to procure new inductees from amongst the populace.

  • Xodis

    Or Possibly the Rhino Primaris that is already in the Index.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      Such a missed oportunity. A plastic Deimos rhino with pred and vindi versions would have been bl0ody brilliant.

    • Coltcabunny

      The Rhino Primaris is the Warhammer World exclusive Rhino variant. Same goes for the Land Raider Excelsior

      • Xodis

        Ah, well that stinks.

        • Coltcabunny

          Don’t get your hopes up for Primaris Psykers either. They’re for Imperial Guard.

          • Xodis

            Weird.

      • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

        Converting mine.

    • Porty1119

      The Rhino Primaris is a command vehicle, not a transport for Primaris Marines. Confusingly.

      • Xodis

        I noticed that, seems like a not-so-well thought out idea on GWs behalf.

  • That small round stand under the tank looks stupid. Makes it look like it is hovering above the ground. They either need to skip bases for treaded/wheeled vehicles or make a base that actually accommodates them.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      It is meant to look like its hovering. I understand your confusion though since bizarrely they’ve made the grav-plates look like tank tracks.

      • ZeeLobby

        It was an odd design decision for sure.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          The painting doesn’t help at all either.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah, maybe if they were painted the same as the hull they wouldn’t stand out as much.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Or a glowing green or similar.

        • Muninwing

          land raider ski-doo, only hovering?

      • AircoolUK

        I still think it looks like the Ultrasmurfs version of Rincewind’s Luggage.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          Now I want to buy one to make a Primaris version of Fred Flintstone’s car!

    • mtvanars

      I think it is hovering, it’s a hover tank

    • ZeeLobby

      LoL. Can’t tell if joke or not…

    • Got any tau stand break ?

      I like it.

    • That thing *is* an anti-grav hover tank. It doesn’t have tracks and it doesn’t have wheels.

  • AircoolUK

    So basically, this is a tarot card and tea leaves prediction?

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      Much more scientific than that. On a level with Palmistry at least 😆

  • I think we can safely expect that GW is going to give Numarines the Sigmarine treatment. Welcome to the summer of Numar.

    • Coltcabunny

      Adeptus Restartes.

      • Xodis

        Best name yet

      • EnTyme

        Led by the primarch Reboot Gulliman

      • Erick Earle

        Adeptus Retardes

      • Vachones

        We call them Chad Marines. Its a meme thing.

        • AircoolUK

          I’m English, I don’t understand the ‘chad’ thing. Would you mind explaining?

          • Crevab

            For english memers, change the d to a v

          • Vachones

            A “Chad” is an internet meme/slang term for a young attractive “dude” who’s life is lifting weights and picking up women, typically its used in a derogatory way. Google Chad and Meme. These new marines seemed to fit.

          • Ludwig Hesselbach

            Still, what?! I’m American and I have no idea what you speak of. Of course I’m so out of the loop when it comes to slang terms it’s sad.

      • SWISSchris

        8th is Age of Guilliman. Even the big fluff changes whiff of AoS. Galaxy ostensibly overrun by chaos. Apart from the amount of time that has passed, this is not a million miles away from the gist of AoS.

        • Muninwing

          “Even the big fluff changes whiff of AoS.”

          not everything badly-written is AoS-related…

          • SWISSchris

            I was not referring to the quality of the writing. As I explained.

          • Muninwing

            joking.

            sad because also not joking.

          • SWISSchris

            I agree completely – these are weird times for 40k!

    • AircoolUK

      Fine by me. Apart from some Kharadrons (ironclad and thunderers), I’ve not been interested in GW mini’s since Silver Tower.

      Looking forward to painting the P-Marines.

  • Rajak

    It is now only a matter of time until SM go extinct. Primaris are going to be the new SM. Just wait a few years and the lore will kill off all old marines.

    • ZeeLobby

      Who knows, they might have rules forever. It’ll be interesting to see how long Tomb Kings have AoS rules. I imagine it’ll be a good indicator for mini-marines.

    • Xodis

      Possibly, but I’d say its more likely we will see another lore reboot before that happens. In order to obsolete the old Marines they need to do away with the “Primaris” completely and just replace the models. If they just replace them in 40K, they still have to keep making them for 30K.

      • ZeeLobby

        But i mean those are like totally different sprues. 30K/40K space marine models never really overlapped.

        • Xodis

          Kind of, but whats the chances of them keeping both sizes, especially as we see now that the lines are overlapping? We have specific entries for multiple versions of Terminator armors, maybe even Different Marks of Power Armor someday too.

          • ZeeLobby

            Eh, I think the crossovers were just a way to generate more cash off the recent HH plastics. I don’t think they necessarily have to stay or will. I’d honestly be shocked if they upscaled the HH models, but I guess they could do it. They just currently have no real need to. HH units still have a place in the current fluff (mini-marine additions), and the smaller scale is justified for 30K in that same fluff. It’ll be interesting to see what they do, but it’s not like they’d have to update one because of the other. I mean all their big tanks/fliers/walkers could still operate fine with the new SM scale. It’s not like a lot of the FW stuff was Baby Bjorn GK style.

          • Xodis

            I was saying to make the miniMarines obsolete they would have to redo the entire range of HH models since we do get that overlap, and GW prides themselves on the models being interchangeable between the games.
            So until HH goes full Primaris size, we can expect to see miniMarines in the future, even if their only new releases happen to be HH crossovers.

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean not to make minimarines obsolete in 40K. You could just write them out. I mean heck, if someone wants to pay for FW resin to continue their minimarine army, I’m sure GW will fully support that. Cha-ching! Haha.

            Eventually you won’t be able to start them without going that route as a new player though, and then it’s only a matter of time until people just don’t play minimarines.

          • Xodis

            True, but if there are rules for them I wouldn’t call them obsolete, unsupported most definitely.
            But for miniMarines to truly go the way of the dodo, we have to have a fluff reset and remove the Primaris lore completely.

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean I don’t know why we’d need a fluff reset. The story is moving as is. You just simply have all the minimarines die or get upgraded. Boom, gone from game. Sure the new marines will be “Primaris” marines, but hten you just stop printing primaris on the boxes and codex, and it’s lost to history. it’ll just be another “founding”.

            All this said, they should have just replaced the line. The fluff behind it is just dismal, lol.

          • Xodis

            Wouldnt GW dropping the Primaris name be a fluff reset though? Its like how no one mentions the Dr Who american movie…sure its there, but we all kind of ignore it. I didn’t mean a reset as in prior to the new advances, that would eliminate the new Primarchs returning and dropping all that cash that can be made from them…never going to happen.
            I seriously doubt GW continues 2 similar yet differently sized lines though, we will either see FW models creep up in size or make a big leap.

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean I dunno, aren’t Eldar now Aeldarians, lol.

          • Xodis

            No, they always were……lol

          • ZeeLobby

            were what? Aeldari? Since when? LoL. None of my old codexes call them that.

          • Xodis

            Added the lol to signify sarcasm hehe

          • ZeeLobby

            Oh, hahahaha. Yeah. I mean it’s a good example.

            Plus I mean to imperial citizens, who mostly go through life never seeing a space marine, could they really differentiate Primaris from regular (especially since in the fluff regular look a lot like Primaris), haha.

          • Xodis

            True, but GW doesn’t have to sell Imperial Citizens on the lore, fluff, and new price tags lol
            Of course the Imperial Citizen they probably cant tell the difference between TAU or Aeldarians, so I wouldnt worry about their views too much lol.

          • ZeeLobby

            I’d hope that imperial citizens are brighter than the current citizens of earth, in which case it’d be a harder sale. I mean you’ve seen people defend some of GW’s most idiotic moves available here. I don’t think GW in the end would really care, as long as their sales went up for that year. Reselling space marines to players who already own 10K points of space marines is like their wet dream, lol.

          • Xodis

            Earth/Terra seems to get dumber as time moves forward so who knows what its like in 40K years. I will say that nothing sells better than the same popular product remade bigger though lol

          • ZeeLobby

            I’m not even sure GW is a British company anymore. Bigger is better is the ‘Merica way!

          • Xodis

            Well we do have most of the biggest mega corporations the planet has seen. We are only a few dragons away from going full Shadowrun.

          • TheWanderingJewels

            Dunno. The EU’Crats of Yurp are giving it a go.

          • They always were. And Craftworlders never were called Craftworlders, but Asuryani. We always had been in war with Eurasia after all!

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        Its interesting to speculate.

        I am really curious to know how FWs version of 7th will play. Might be a great way to play the really cool armies from the last couple of years in a non overpowered way.

        • euansmith

          Which rules are FW going to work with? In the article about the release of new FW books, it talks about 8th Edition.

          • Xodis

            FW units are 8e, but HH will stay as 7e and get their own core book for now it seems.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            There are new FW books for 40k/8th, but they announced at Warhammerfest that 30k is staying with 7th and they’ll be releasing a version of 7th, modified for 30k, shortly.

      • Maybe they don’t. There’s now new lore that Primaris actually were even around in 30k already, just that Cawl wanted to tinker with them ‘a little more’.

    • SilentPony

      They basically already did. Over half of ALL space marines are missing, the blood angels and all their successors were basically annihilated, forcing an in-take of Primaris, etc…

      • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

        If you mean had their butts pulled out of the fire by Girlyman and reinforced with numarines, then yeah.

        • Loki Nahat

          no he doesn’t mean that, he means that GW killed off normalstartes in faecal writing to give an exuce to sell primaris

          • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

            Proof? It’s not like what happened to Cadia.

    • vlad78

      Might be a long time. How old marines sell without many new kits will dictate the schedule. But the day they phase them away is also the day all those old kits could be used to play primaris marines.

      I think regular marines will stay even if not updated. It brings variation to the range despite the fact the minis are almost the same.

  • Timotheus

    Silly me was thinking this article was about actual Space Marines…..

    • ZeeLobby

      Nah, just the better ones. Time to move over mini-mes!

  • SilentPony

    So, wait…the box set kits ARE the Primaris release? There will be no separate, different sculpt, generic Intercessor squads? Just a re-box of what we’ve already seen?

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Not according to people who went to Warhammer World. they said the full release would be multi-part kits.

      • SilentPony

        and? The starter set is a multi-part kit.

        • Dan Wilson

          As in, poseability, which the starter set has little of.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            Yes.

            The starter is mono-pose, like the Dark Angels from the last starter. The real kits will be pose-able, like normal marines.

    • Vachones

      I would hope they learned their lesson from the Dark Vengeance set. Those Chaos Chosen looked so so good, and never made it to a multi-part kit. Sad really.

  • highwind

    Intercessors and Hellblasters are probably the same kit and I guess the “fourth” new unit will share a kit with the Inceptors and will be close combat orientated…

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Good call. Most likely.

  • Boreno

    The Gravis armour, according with the Dark Imperium novel, are the “primaris terminators”. I think DG and primaris during June-July and August (I hope so!)

  • AircoolUK

    heh… best ‘rumour’ I’ve ever seen is that tool who posted a picture of a sprue that had the words;

    Games Workshop Limited

    printed as part of the cast and was insistent that the model was a limited edition ‘cos, y’know… Games Workshop Limited.

    Ahhh, that was funny.

  • SPlatte

    4 boxes of “troops/infantry/marines” =1. Intercessor/Helblaster combi-box, 2. Inceptor box, 3. they mentioned a recon squad on stream, 4. Close Combat Guys or maybe an terminator equivalent box with guys in Gravis Armour.

    2
    vehicles = 1. Repulsor as a transport and 2. an MBT.

    For Character boxes one could guess that there will be a box with Librarian, Chaplain and Captain and one box with the smaller Characters like Lieutenants and Ancients.

    • Dan Wilson

      I’ve been informed that there are actual Primaris assault marines as well, so that will probably be the inceptor combo.

    • Missed the recon thing on stream. Were there anymore details given b/c I am using the Primaris in the box set for a raven guard army

  • Ravingbantha

    Seriously, is anyone actually surprised by this? This is what GW does, I’d be surprised if most of the rest of this year wasn’t filled with Death Guard and Primaris Marine releases. This is their chance to take their most popular selling line and resell it to the same people.

  • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

    Intercessors/Hellblasters are obviously going to be a combo kit. Kinda hoping the Inceptor kit will have more options than what’s in the Index, but for lack of evidence, that’s not a sure thing. Holding out hope for all in one Marine Character boxes, though.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      I doubt we will have a Marine super codex because we just got that in the form of the Index. Thins are much morel ikely to be slit up. My bet is that we will have:

      – Space Marines
      – Primaris Marines
      – Dark Angels
      – Blood Angels
      – Space Wolves

      • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

        I don’t see them giving Primaris Marines their own Codex. Even with the new stuff, there’s unlikely to be enough model diversity to justify a Primaris codex. You’d need to have at least the same amount of units as the Stormcast Battle Tome and enough options per kit that the army doesn’t feel copy-pasted, which the Index just doesn’t provide.

        • “Not enough model diversity” didn’t stop GW from making a Harlequins Codex. Primaris will have far more very soon.

          • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

            Pre-existing models and a community that actively wanted them in the game. Most of the folks suggesting that there will be a new Primaris codex, despite statements from GW that Primaris is not replacing the Space Marine lines at all, are the ones that are saying that the Primaris line is replacing Marines, both in the fluff and on the table top. Who’d want to make criticism and doomsaying like that true?

          • I don’t know. I was just saying that GW did it before. Not more and not less.

  • AX_472

    Space marine index boox lists Land raider excelsior (with grav cnnon) and rhino pimaris (with twin plasma guns and an orbital relay). also company vets on bikes. 🙂

    • And those are already available for a year at Warhammer World exclusively. You know, the “Bling-Raider”.

  • Deacon Ix

    Possibly me being cynical – but are primaris marines a way of getting an IP?

    • carlisimo

      Not necessarily; they already had “Adeptus Astartes” as the IP-protectable name for Space Marines. The squad types and weapons do seem to be getting IP-safe names though. Which is annoying; it’s a lot harder to identify them by name now (the old XX-pistol, XX-gun, XX-cannon was nice and intuitive, and the exceptions were still easy to figure out).

      They simply realized that human minis were getting as large as Space Marine minis and had to either shrink the former or enlarge the latter.

      • Nicolas M

        Then why not just do that? Just scale the new SM figs, like they have already done for the terminators, instead of ruining the lore and making sure you’ll have to buy new figs to be able to play the “new sm”?

        • Maybe they feared nerd-rage for upscaling stuff without fluff-reasons.

          • Nicolas M

            What? An upscale would have been influff. The fig would have finally matched what they are in the lore.

            On the other and, the Primaris and a terrible piece of lore nerd-rage inducing.

          • Muninwing

            it’s… yeah. it’s almost insulting the low level of quality that the GW studio’s fluff writing and plot have come to.

          • I’m totally aware of that. I’m just guessing.

    • Naa, they just needed a way to “make 40k fit for another 30 years of selling Space Marines to the same people that already bought them all”.

  • BK

    I’m just not liking these new marines aesthetically. The helmets look 30kish and these poses are all pretty generic holding a bolter posed.

    • SilentPony

      To be fair, they do have generic mrk4 helms, and are posed pretty stiffly. So you’re not off the mark.

  • piglette

    Do Iron Hands have Primaris marines? I am thinking of starting an IH army if I get the starter box.

    • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

      No Chapter Rules yet, beyond Keyword interactions (stupid Smurfs with their stupid up-gunned Land Raiders), so go ahead and take them. Techmarines got simultaneously easier and harder to use, though.

  • Nicolas M

    Hot damn thos Inceptors are REALLY fugly. Even worst than the centurion.

    And the Redemptor Dreadnought look bad too, way too “gundamy” and with too much curve for a SM vehicle, it look like a bad fan concept tbh.

    • dinodoc

      Meh. The Redemptor looks more like it came straight from Robocop.

  • Shawn

    Thanks for throwing us pictures we’ve already seen about a half-dozen times.

    • And they will throw them at you a few more times to make sure they milk all the clicks they can get from that.

      • Shawn

        No doubt.

  • Shawn

    Thanks for throwing us pictures we’ve already seen about a half-dozen times.

  • SacTownBrian

    Im betting that the Inceptor kits is a double build with a close combat option because fly and impact on them begs for melee (Centurions…). I’m also betting the Repulsor is a double kit with a either a more shooty option (Predator) or a less shooty transport option (Razorback/Rhino anyone?). The second option seems to make more sense.

    • Actually I don’t see why Primaris would need a Rhino any longer if they can just mass-produce flying Land Raiders easily. And I actually doubt we will see new Marines getting anything that’s not “other existing stuff +1”. Because, ya know, Marines should have been one-up everything ever since… or something like that.

  • Woodybasket

    Different primaris unit types have been mentioned in the dark imperium book.
    Overlord primaris Marines (gravis with rocket launcher on the shoulder)
    Reaver or something like that ( stealth Marines with a big knife and heavy pistols)
    Overlord aircraft ( flyer bigger than a thunder hawk)

  • Fomorian

    From the new Dark Imperium Novel there are some other troop types mentioned for Primaris, listed as follows:

    Squads:
    Intercessor – Legion Tactical Squad equivalent.
    Inceptor – Assault Squad equivalent.
    Hellblaster – Tactical Support Squad equivalent.
    Reiver – Close combat and stealth specialists.
    Aggressor – Gravis-equipped marines with shoulder-mounted missile racks and Flame Gauntlets.

    Vehicles:
    Redemptor Dreadnought
    Repulsor

    Aircraft:
    Overlord

    • Muninwing

      half of that is try-hard silly. just over the top ridiculous.

    • Thomas

      Aggressors.

      With Flame Gauntlets.

      Go home GW IP lawyers, you’re drunk.