40K: Primaris Characters Rules Spotted

Datasheet rules have been spotted for this weekend’s Primaris Captain & Librarian. Take a look.

Rules Images via miniwars 7-5-2017

The rules for both these kits are in the boxes and it looks like they have been spotted in the wild by some gamers. Here’s the first rules images doing the rounds on the new Uber Marine leaders:

Primaris Captain $35

Space Marine Captains are both superlative warriors and strategically gifted commanders who lead Space Marine companies into battle. Those Primaris Captains who favour Mk X Tacticus armour are amongst the most determined and unstoppable of their ilk, and they let nothing keep them from their duty.

Primaris Librarian $35

Eyes blazing and fists crackling with roiling energies, Space Marine Librarians stride into battle to destroy their foes. Some hurl blasts of warp-force that crush their victims to paste, while others twist the flow of time itself or revitalise their brothers with incredible dynamism. However they choose to fight, all Librarians are potent psykers, harnessing their potent mutation and a force to defend Humanity.

 

 

Future Primaris Characters

Note the Primaris Characters decal sheet.  Can you spot the character on there that hasn’t been unveiled or rumored yet?

I’ll give you a hint – he carries a Crozius…

 

~What do you think of the rules?

  • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

    Meh. Not even T 5, and mono-pose with almost no wargear options. Gonna have to give this kit a hard nope.

    • BaronSnakPak

      The only Captains with T5 are gravis, and on a bike. Why would a no-name captain in regular primaris armor be T5?

      • dynath

        to justify 35 dollars

        • Horus84cmd

          wow three comments in and complaining about the price – original. How about just don’t buy one?

          • Richard Mitchell

            customers have the right to complain about prices. It is not illegal to do so in the U.S.

          • Horus84cmd

            Errr oook? Doesn’t make it any less tedious to hear the same old lines.

          • Andrew O’Brien

            Their comment suggests they wont. What is the comments section for if not to comment?

          • Horus84cmd

            Just the continued tedium of it. Everyone knows GW is a costly hobby. Either people are happy to pay it or they’re not. I simply don’t get moaning about it at every juncture.

          • Shawn

            When given a free medium to voice their opinion, even when unwanted, people will still voice their opinion 😉

          • Horus84cmd

            For sure. I just find it continually pathetic to do so when wargaming is a hobby not a necessity. In terms of the level of things to gripe about in the world the price of plastic toys soldiers is quite low on the list.

          • Shawn

            No doubt

          • dynath

            Please go on about how your jumping to the old “get over the prices” line is any less tedious than my frustration with pricing and lack of options.

            I made one joke to the effect that having a higher toughness would help justify the price of the otherwise lack luster model. And to be clear I’m not griping about a 35 dollar price tag. I am gripping that it is a CRAP MODEL for 35 Dollars. GW can do better, and I expect better for my money. Just because you don’t have standards doesn’t mean I don’t.

          • Horus84cmd

            http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e54ead5af921b95421a197983dea8b50afe7c816671439f00f97ce00a8455f3c.jpg

            Don’t get your pannies in a twist. Don’t like it then don’t buy it, no ones got a gun to your head saying you must.

          • dynath

            I love your reuse of an old meme to prove my statement is old and played out. LOL.

            My “pannies” aren’t in a twist over GW’s prices. My aggravation comes from

            – A: you felt the need to jump on a comment you didn’t have to respond to. If it is so old and played out why did you feel the need to respond causticly in the first place? give me a reason these models are so justifiably priced or just ignore my 4 word comment.

            – B: you dismiss an argument that has been repeated so much because you’ve heard it before. The argument gets repeated because a lot of people believe it’s true. Refute the argument or don’t but don’t dismiss it because you’ve heard it before. If these models are worth it to you, fine, that’s you. You do you. Of course a lot of people aren’t you and do feel GW’s prices are to high so they can do them and we can just not play our games together, Mkay…

            – C: People go in circles on GW’s price all the time because it is actually an important discussion. See GW used to have this adverse reaction to talking to fans. And fans bitched that GW wouldn’t take input. But they recently started changing that. They actually have forums and have listened to input. Now for all those people who really want to know things there is actually a chance GW will answer questions. Guess what, some of us want to know why these models are actually priced this way. What makes them decide that a monopose model with very few customization options and virtually identical rules is worth 35 USD. I want to know how they price things. I’m sure someone else does to. Maybe not you. Maybe you are ok with dropping a couple of hours of your paycheck on this model without knowing whether you are getting a model that’s had a lot of thought and energy put into it to justify that price. We all make choices. My choice is to be informed if I can be. So I want to talk about price.

          • luke-vdv

            Well the issue hasn’t changed so why would the complaint?

          • Horus84cmd

            True enough. I just really don’t get the complaining, which comes with every product. It’s a wargaming hobby not a necessity. There are far more important things to be gripping on about than the price of plastic toy soldiers.

        • Shawn

          Hey Dynath, sorry I didn’t get a chance to reply to your post regarding Shapeways. Seems BoLS shut down the page altogether. I wouldn’t mind discussing it further with you in some other forum or, or facebook, or something similar.

          • dynath

            We can talk if you want, not sure if Disqus can PM or anything but i know shapeways can, PM me on there if you like.

          • Shawn

            Same name?

      • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

        Why charge $35 for a mono-pose model?

        • BaronSnakPak

          I don’t know, I don’t work for GW, but theyve been doing it for years. This is nothing new.

        • Spacefrisian

          Might as well go with using a model from the 12 euro kits and some random fancy bits.

        • OldHat

          Because they are damned gorgeous, highly detailed kits? The era of $15 metal figs has been gone for a decade and even then, they were monopose too.

          • euansmith

            Yeah, but the metal minis also doubled up as an effective close range weapon in rules’ disputes. The damage from a thrown HQ choice might have been lower than that from a metal ‘Dread, but the rate of fire was higher.

      • Horus84cmd

        This ^

        • Richard Mitchell

          Your comment kinda of highlights the echo chamber brand loyalists live in. Anyone who has played GW and any other game knows that 35 dollars for single model that is not on a medium or large base is insane. Looking at the Infinity line and Wyrd line (which have most detailed miniatures) an equivalent runs between 9-15 bucks.

          Looking at what you can get from 2ed Malifaux (http://www.thewarstore.com/wyrd-miniatures-arcanists.html) or Infinity (http://www.thewarstore.com/corvus-belli-infinity-nomads.html) for 35 dollars, ya those prices are WAAAY inflated for what you are getting.
          Even when you ignore The War Store’s 20 percent discount and look at the retail value.

          • Horus84cmd

            Waaaait a minute…did I manage to comment about price in that literal single word comment of “this”. God I’m skilled with a single word…

      • Bigalmoney666

        Because GW has a history of making the new thing hands down better than the old thing and people still expect the same.

        • BaronSnakPak

          And they also have a history of making regular captains and librarians T4, so…

          • euansmith

            “But this is Primaris, see, Pri-mar-is. It’s a whole new ballgame, kid; another level of plastic crack. Now hand over your dinner money.” 😉

  • neshta

    They will still be hard as balls to kill with my Nids…. -_- I’m already sick of fighting marines!

    • Chris Hilliard

      That feels like 90% of the game right now. Just one Marine list after another.

      • NNextremNN

        Wait until they have their codex but all others don’t.

      • OldHat

        Really? My FLGS and its League is maybe half Marines and all of them are different. We have Dark Eldar (!), Orks (!!), and Guard (!!!), along with my AdMech. Then again, the hobby is expensive and people play what they like and all that.

        • Chris Hilliard

          Space Wolves, Death Watch, Blood Angels, and Ultra Marines, along with two Chapters of generic Marines painted to look like Chaos without committing to the Chaos Marine rules. That was just what hit the table this week. People have other armies, but thanks to 30K they only use their Marines.

        • Richard Mitchell

          With language like that you should wear a monocle.

          • OldHat

            …I do. Two of them. Connected by a frame. Clever, right?

          • Horus84cmd

            WOW neat idea I shall called it a Bi-monocle*

            *patent and trademark pending, UK, EU, USA – well the world really.

          • Iconoc1ast

            XD

    • BaronSnakPak

      The Nid players in my scene have been crushing Marines (and most other armies too). Almost all marines, including characters, are easy to kill now, thanks to AP weapons, and non AP weapons in large blobs (ork choppa boys).

      • I didn’t know Nid players have ork choppa boyz.

        • Nyyppä

          Hormies work just fine.

      • Adam Sinclair

        stationary Exocrines make biopulp out of marines!

        • euansmith

          Mmmm… tasty biopulp.

          • OldHat

            I prefer mine pulp free.

          • NovaeVox

            Mk.X melts in your fifth stomach, not in your maw.

  • orionburn

    Did I miss something, or should it be new characterS? I haven’t seen anything for a Primaris Chaplain or an Apothecary.

    • euansmith

      There was a picture up earlier in the week of artwork featuring the Apothecary, but not mini photos yet.

      • orionburn

        Ah…okay. I thought a photo was floating around and was surprised that I didn’t see it. Now we know that near everything is going to get Primarisized. Looking forward to seeing how the Chaplain turns out. Not a big fan of the Raivererervsisiessis skull mask, but that’s largely due to not liking that look on the Ultramarines blue.

      • Spacefrisian

        Easy to miss it hasn’t been repeated 5 times yet.

  • 3AcresAndATau

    Why does the transfer sheet only have options for Ultramarine characters? The other chapters need some love too. :/

    • BaronSnakPak

      Thatd be a large size transfer sheet to cram into a clam pack box.

      • You know, back in the 90s, GW was putting multiple small sheets of transfers into blisters which were even smaller.

        • kloosterboer

          Music was better then, too.

          • EnTyme

            And kids had more respect than they do today!

          • kloosterboer

            Get off my lawn!

          • luke-vdv

            You don’t have to be factious every time someone mentions something from GW’s past.

          • euansmith

            They don’t HAVE to, but I feel it adds to life’s rich pageantry when they do.

    • euansmith

      It also contains a transfer sheet for the villainous “Omega Marines”.

      http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39d3c9cf3d41d6f326149610ddde2dc225ecaf7253dbe5d467d17a34e00e96b8.png

  • Drpx

    –Character abilities function as bubble auras now
    –Bigger characters means bigger bubbles.
    I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE GW!

  • SacTownBrian

    That Librarian looked like he was wearing Gravis armor under all those robes but I guess not. Since he’s got no transport why take him over a regular Librarian?

    • UltimateCrimson

      Well I’d imagine that Primaris transports will be released soon with the announcement of the codex dropping this month. Because of that, you should have no reason to not take the Primaris Librarian due to it costing the same as a regular librarian, but with a slightly better stat line. The only problem is if you can live with yourself for buying such an overpriced model. Personally I’m slowly realizing that this model isn’t as overpriced as I thought seeing most plastic librarians are $37 Canadian and this one is $45

      • euansmith

        I’m hoping for a Primaris Triumvirate box or other character collection offering a “massive saving” over the price of the individual minis. Alternatively, a box of Gravis armour guys who can be kitbashed in to all of the character minis. 😉

      • orionburn

        Had that same realization. My libby in terminator armor is only $4 cheaper. Personally I hate any single character models of that size being priced over $30.

        Even if Ezekiel is still metal he’s a bargain at $17 (USD).

  • Carey_Mahoney

    Wow, they have quite a lot of wounds in their stats. A bit over the top…

  • Koen Diepen Van

    Personaly if find it very disturbing that primaris marines have such few wargear options. I makes me fear that gw will go a route where options slowly becomes a thing of the past.

    • euansmith

      Maybe they are saving them up for the Codex?

      • Koen Diepen Van

        Why? Makes no sense. I think it just has to do whit the model. Model whit less options is cheaper to produce. Not giving it more options than are on the model does not allow for third party companies. Profit. (or sadness in case of the playerbase)

        • Ronin

          I’m hoping it’s more for balance reasons and to keep people buying regular Marines. Primaris Marines look cooler and newer, but they lack the versatility of normal Marines which makes them easier for beginners to pick up.

        • euansmith

          The models we are seeing so far are the simple, push fit ones from the starter sets. Maybe the multipose sets (if they do them) will have a zillion upgrades, like the Tactical Marine sprue?

          • Koen Diepen Van

            And they would release 2 profiles for each unit?

          • euansmith

            If they do it, the stat line would remain the same, but one would give you more options; options that the push fit starter set sprue wouldn’t give you access too.

            We’ve already seen a Auspex turn up on the Easy To Build: Primaris Space Marine Intercessors sprue that I can’t see on the Dark Imperium sprues. I’ve not seen the Dataslate for them, but I presume that it features some bonus for having the gadget.

  • Kefka

    Well Bols, you could at least use the screenshots with the whole page. It clearly states that these rules are only meant to “get your miniatures on the board” and that the full rules and options will be in “your index/codex”

  • OldHat

    Helmeted Libby. Nice! Might get one just to paint.

  • YetAnotherFacelessMan

    I’m a little disappointed that the stalker-pattern bolter can’t single out characters. Still, nice to have a dedicated long-range shooting option for a captain. Now he can chill near your devastators or artillery with a Lt. and buff the backfield.

    • euansmith

      I’m imagining them lounging behind a wall, making laconic comments, and taking potshots every now and then. Like Robert Redford and Paul Newman in some too cool for school war movie.

  • Agent OfBolas

    Hmmm …. I really like how those minnis look. I’m not a SM fan, but I love Primaris armours.