BREAKING: GW Necromunda Underhive Revealed!

GW just pulled the covers off of new Necromunda Underhive game minis at the NOVA Open – GO GO GO!

Necromunda: Underhive

 

Gameplay

Miniatures

Escher gangGoliath gang

Sexy minis!

Artwork

 

~What do you guys think? More as it comes in.

  • How do you make it without standing terrain. This is just space hulk.

    • ZeeLobby

      Does seem like an odd miss. Especially after the awesome terrain in Shadow Wars

      • benn grimm

        It’s so weird, it’s like Shadowmunda stole all the terrain and rules which should have been with this…

        • zeno666

          No, no, no. Its all part of the plan.
          You have to buy both games now to get one almost decent one 😉

    • BaronSnakPak

      If they included terrain and 2 gangs in one box, it’d cost a fortune. The full game can be played with 3D terrain, the box set is just the intro to it.

      • No terrain and 150$ oops.

        • Nuno Castilho

          Did they announce it as 150$? I’m thinking it’ll be more like the same price as Bloodbowl, which is 100$ – same level of components and same number of miniatures

      • MightyOrang

        That’s what was in Shadow War…

        • danbond

          Shadow War had the terrain though which would have retailed individually for about the same price as Shadow War cost (at least here in the UK)

        • BaronSnakPak

          Shadow War was a limited print, used 10 yr old scout and ork boy sprues, it was a clever way to get rid of surplus stock and sell expensive new terrain. You were buying the terrain and rules. Underhive is 20 brand new minis, if they include $70 terrain the entire box cost would balloon.

          • MightyOrang

            Fair enough, but let’s not pretend we were paying for rules that were already 15 years old

            And I personally think the orc sprue still holds up very very well

            Scout sprue was always crap

          • BaronSnakPak

            Ork sprue isn’t bad, but it’s by no stretch new, nor the reason people bought shadow wars.

          • lunahula .

            Those ork sprues have been kicking around a long while. I think since Assault on Black Reach? They are alright, but they are ageing albeit not as badly as space marine scouts and their poorly fitting arms.

          • MightyOrang

            All about that discounted terrain. Throw the rest out!*

            See also the Calth and Prospero sets for games I don’t need but minis I do…

      • zeno666

        Wow, what a nice save! I bet GW will appreciate that one and return the favour by reading some of your fan fiction 😉

        • BaronSnakPak

          What? How is that a save or fanfic? I think you replied to the wrong person.

    • memitchell

      NEVER, and I mean NEVER again utter the words “just space hulk.” There is NO “just Space Hulk.” That’s like saying “just Jimi Hendrex. ” OR, “just a P-51 Mustang.” Or, “just Saturn’s rings.” The correct phrasing would be, “Without standing terrain, this looks like it might instead play a bit like Space Hulk (which is OK, Space Hulk is a fantastic game!).”

      • Iconoc1ast

        Well said!!

      • Andrew Marshall

        Space hulk seems as basic as you lol.

        • Gary Pearce

          You haven’t played it? That devalued your opinion…

        • DangerBeaver

          Basic? What’s basic about a game that introduced Genestealers, the Deathwing, and, oh yeah, Terminators! I bought mine in 1989 and have been hooked since.

    • Iconoc1ast

      The zone mortalis style mat is to represent the underhive i am sure with the house gangs fighting around the manufactorums using the sector mechanicus stuff. I think that it was to add different play styles to the game.

  • araekyus

    Hulkmunda? Necrohulk? Spacemunda?

    • memitchell

      Drop it. Just drop it. Defiling two great games is not adorable.

      • Iconoc1ast

        XD

      • Amdor

        Oh but it is fun. Also space hulk is good but far from great

  • frankelee

    lol, if they’re planning to charge $150 for a board game with two Necromunda gangs, I do believe I’ll save that money for something else.

    • SWISSchris

      Buy the minis on ebay / old necromunda minis and play OG necromunda or this. $150 for what, 20 minis? is nuts.

    • Brandon Rutter

      where are ppl getting this 150?

      • Krev_Grazl

        Out of their behinds!

      • Gary Pearce

        from the rings of Uranus

  • Michael Linke

    More importantly, the terrain is 2d Zone Mortalis tiles!

    • Brian Griffith

      Yeah, Forge World mentioned they’re going to be revamping and expanding their Zone Mortalis line in conjunction with this.

      • Cergorach

        I would love it if they made the basic boards the same plastic as the Realms of Battle boards… Would buy them then!

  • piglette

    Dang that trailer was pretty cool.

  • I hope those mats are just the tabletop replacement or there are rules for classic fights. Necromunda without 3 dimensions ISN’T Necromunda. If it’s just another board game they will have once againt swung and missed no matter how nice the figures may look.

  • Sleeplessknight

    Wait… it’s a boardgame??? With cardboard game tiles? Fail.

    This game was begging to be packed with the sector mechanicus terrain like Shadow War Armageddon.

    • Sleeplessknight

      Okay, I spoke too soon and replied without reading the full article. At least without proper terrain this will hopefully keep the box cheap and give people the option to get the terrain separately. I still think this would have been better off as an expansion to Shadow War Armageddon.

      • Brian Griffith

        Yeah, I’m thinking the price of the starter set is gonna be more akin to Blood Bowl than to the Horus Heresy boxed games, given the number of minis.

      • Nope I’ve heard 150$

        • Cite your source or shut your trap.

          • GW store. We discussed this all day. I’ll just printing this file off and playing old school rules.
            http://files.sigil.biz/data/necromunda_terrain.pdf

            P.S. you come off as a bit angry. You might want to talk to someone.

          • bomster

            Hope you find a way to print out the old plastic bulkheads as well, otherwise you might not get very far with these.
            Honestly – you might be better off getting one of those mdf sets various companies offer for around $50-$70 to fill a table. You just might need to glue some plastic gubbins on them to make them look slightly less like a suburban playground or paintball arena.

          • Gary Pearce

            it’s not the first time people asked for source. But yeah that is rude

          • So you have no proof, then. So: shut your trap.

        • Sleeplessknight

          I’m hoping you’re in Australia.

        • bomster

          $150 is plausible. It may only contain about half as many models als the HH boardgames, but there seems to be some plastic scatter terrain added, which would mean additional sprues (especially if those pseudo-bulkheads are plastic).

    • zeno666

      Yeah its hilarious!

      But don’t worry, there will be a note in it that says “Rules for playing on 3D terrain: It costs 1 of your Movement to climb or decend 1″. ”
      Amazing.

  • DoctorBored

    Overpriced, just like all of their board games. The real interesting thing will be how these minis transfer into the normal game. I bet they’ll have gang rules in the updated Astra Militarum Codex.

    If they really think this game is going to stand on its own, I think they’re going to be disappointed. The people that really care about Necromunda have been waiting so long, they’ve already got one foot in the grave.

    • af

      > The real interesting thing will be how these minis transfer into the normal game.

      Disagreed. I’ve no interest in 40K, but a lot of interest in GW minis (when they are good, at least) and in innovative fast-play games. I’ll be terribly disappointed if this box ends up being merely a source of minis for 40K. Boring!

      • DoctorBored

        For your sake, I hope the game is fantastic. Frankly, I really do hope it’s a great game with lots of replay-ability, and I really hope they come out with more gangs just for this game and keep it its own thing.

        Do I think that’s going to happen? I’m sorry, but no.

        • Dude, the original Necromunda STILL has a vibrant and active community that isn’t going to go away anytime soon. We’ve been hung out to dry by GW for fifteen years now, and we’ve been DIYing it ever since. Getting shiny new minis isn’t going to change that for us.

          • DoctorBored

            They’ve done a good job of staying under the radar, like these gangs.

          • If I actually thought you game a damn I’d explain why, but you don’t, so I wont’.

          • zeno666

            They know whats best for them. GW would send their Level 666 Lawyers after them if they knew people where having fun with their old games (ie, not buying new stuff!).
            Lucky for them GW ain’t that good with the internets yet.

          • Gary Pearce

            actually they stopped doing that a while ago. Gw is just fine with the series of tubes

      • georgelabour

        Well the good news is that even it it’s little more than a passable way to sell some good vehicles and ‘terrain’ used to mark tunnels they’ll still be useful for the two or three Post-apoc mini rule sets that are out there now.

        • af

          Oh, I’m definitely hoping to use these minis with Ganesha’s ruleset for exactly this kind of setting! But if Necromunda itself was a good game, that’d be a plus.

          • Now I’m interested… have any links?…

          • euansmith

            If you Google “Ganesha Games” you’ll find their stuff. They do a bunch of games based off their own “The Song of [noun] and [noun]” system. You can also get their rules from Osprey Games, as “Rogue Stars” uses a version of them.

            Alternatively there are the Grimdark Future: Firefight Rules on the One Page Rules site (along with a bunch of other sets of alternative rules for GW settings).

          • af

            Google Ganesha Games and their rules “Mutants and Death Ray Guns“. Don’t be fooled by the amateurish art; it’s actually a solid skirmish ruleset. You may also be interested in Song of Blades and Heroes, for fantasy.

    • BaronSnakPak

      Where does it say anything about the price?

      Or are you just beating the “GW overcharges” drum?

      • DoctorBored

        I’m going by their other boardgames. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to the hypothesis that this is going to cost somewhere around 150 USD. Meanwhile, I can pick up a board game that’s already built with painted miniatures for half that price and don’t have to explain half the lore of to my friends when we sit down to play. *Points to any board game on the game store shelf*

        • BaronSnakPak

          Gangs of Commorragh- $60
          Bloodbowl – $100
          Killteam- $60
          First Strike- $40
          Know No Fear- $80

          The board games that cost $150+ also contain over 40 minis, and are more often just a cheaper alternative to starting a new army, the game included is an added bonus if you chose to play it. Underhive will have 2 completely customizable gangs, rules for the full Necromunda game, and an additional quickplay board game to ease people into it, that sounds like a ripoff to you?

          If you don’t have to explain the lore for other games, why would you have to explain it for any GW games? Good vs Bad, simple as that. It honestly sounds like no matter what they announced you would’ve been disappointed

          • DoctorBored

            Of those that you listed, including Necromunda, only 3 of them are ‘good vs bad’ and besides Bloodbowl, they’re all just ways to get people more 40k miniatures. Also there was that assassins board game that was super expensive for the 4 models that it had.

          • Brian Griffith

            Blood Bowl is probably the closest comparison for the number of miniatures and presentation, though.

            $100 is a decent bet.

          • BaronSnakPak

            Which would be $5 per (multipose) mini, rules and “terrain” for one type of game, and rules for the full game. Not a bad deal if that’s the price.

            But it seems the OP fancies pre-built, pre-painted minis, no background fluff, and one way to play board games. Not that that’s a bad thing, but clearly not what Underhive was ever intended to be.

          • Brian Griffith

            Yeah, as far as what Necromunda very definitely is, in every incarnation thus far, applying the “high-end boardgame” model would be a betrayal of what Necromunda fans wanted.

            And they’re out there, just like the Blood Bowl fans were. We’ve been busting their expectations for sales, and we can have nice things again.

          • Gary Pearce

            Or gw

          • BaronSnakPak

            So you missed the point about board games not needing lore explained, then repeated what I said, and then capped it off by being wrong about another game.

            Again, it seems like no matter what they announced, you intended on saying it would be an overpriced waste.

          • DoctorBored

            Board games need a sense of context to get people brought into the game. Betrayal at the House on the Hill is a fantastic example. “It’s Scooby Doo but someone becomes a traitor.” Boom, done. People are invested.

            “Yeah it’s about some gangs in the future. Underhive? Uh, it’s like a huge mega-city… it’s like Judge Dredd. Oh, but you don’t get to play as a Judge or anything, just the gangs. Which one is the bad guy? I mean, they’re all… bad? Good? You fight each other.” By now, you’ve lost people’s interest and if they play, they’ll do it begrudgingly.

            It may not play out that way, but this is what I predict across many gaming stores across the country.

          • BaronSnakPak

            Maybe for you, but generally speaking games just need to be fun. Chess has no lore, monopoly has no lore, etc etc etc.

          • Gary Pearce

            I’d hate to see you explain 40k or age of sigmar…

          • bomster

            Yeah, but it was only $10 on ebay if you already had all the older assassins and chaos stuff in there. I’ve played A:EF four or fire times in the last year – which is more mileage than I’ve gotten out of some of my tabletop armies.

        • af

          I get the painted miniatures thing for non-hobbyist gamers, but what lore is there to explain? There’s some kind of hellish sci-fi world and some gangs fighting each other with retro-futuristic weapons. Done explaining!

          • palaeomerus

            Body builder gang, all women gang, religious fanatics gang, weapon manufacturers gang, normal boring nobody gang, sunglasses and trench coat baldy gang, mini gang of rich kids in powered armor hunting poor people like in the Predator movies, cannibals with a devolutionary disease, mutants, cyborg slaves, tribal separatists who have a naturalist’s approach to living in abandoned sectors of the hive, Imperial hive-cops, bounty hunters, criminals driven out of society, an actual religious mob who wants to wipe out undesirables, psykers/heretics.

          • af

            Exactly none of that needs explaining. It’s all standard post-apoc tropes.

    • memitchell

      You are an idiot. Or, else, you do a great impression of one.

  • lunahula .

    I want it but so many contradicting things! Return of those classic bulkhead plastics but new and improved! But nothing to attach them to in order to make three dimensional structures! Great models but not many of them, suppose the cost will show whether this is a good deal.

    Also templates are back? But it uses 8th edition rules as the basis for its own rules now?

    • memitchell

      About those classic bulkheads, you might be on to something. Two of the boards are more narrow. I wonder if they could be attached to the double bulkheads for an elevated level, with the bulkheads as the ladders, too?

      • lunahula .

        I think people probably got their hopes up that it would come with the new plastic terrain featured in shadow war armageddon.

        I think it more likely that this will be a cheaper boxed set with these items and intending to follow the same kind of sales path as Blood Bowl. I think we have to reserve judgement until we see the price.

        But yeah that board isn’t what people expected, but I think they may not be seeing it for what it might be with those bulkheads and other inserts and things. Time will tell of course, but no reason you can’t just make your own terrain or get the GW terrain bits you want and use them. If the boxed set is a high price and doesn’t have them then sure the complaints are justified.

        • memitchell

          What many people don’t quite grasp is that much maligned plastic bulkhead and cardboard Necro terrain was more than a cheap alternative to “real” terrain (which did not exist in the mass market then, anyway). The Necro terrain made the game work. It was extremely modular, a couple of sets could cover a 4′ x 4′ cheaply. And, more importantly, it allowed the minis to “enter” the terrain, move around in 3D, while providing essential cover from shooting, without needing extra bits, like plastic barrels, etc. Sector Mechnicus doesn’t even do that, and it ain’t cheap. The terrain would be my only trepidation, if I did not already own a bunch of the old terrain from way back when.

          • lunahula .

            Aye, back in the 90’s my brother was a staffer at our local GW and he used to bring loads of the bulkheads and cardboard floor pieces home and make huge and elaborate hive settings with them.

            Not high quality, they were basically assembled, glued firmly together and sprayed, but you got a lot of verticality to play with and yeah the handy thing was you could move models up and down, but also through without too much difficulty.

        • Severius_Tolluck

          Not to mention, the first release of necromunda if I recall or, was it one of the expansions provided terrain just like we are seeing, where it was corridors that you laid out. It was for the underground part, like tunnels then it was for the 3d surface with towers.

          • Gary Pearce

            I don’t remember that….

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Dunno what box it was, but I had a stack of card stock that was kinda like dungeons tiles as shown in the pic above and we played it just like that, as if were tunnels. Now come to think of it, it may have been cross contamination from one of the original expansions for 1e space hulk, but you could use it. As everyone said above, I am sure there will be more use of all that great terrain they made, why would you not , if it was an easy way to push product!

  • 6Cobra

    It’s too early to tell, but if you had asked me “what’s the one sure-fire way to torpedo a re-release of Necromunda” my answer would have been to make it a 2D board game. Leaping from catwalk to catwalk, falling into a lake of acid, clambering up ladders, falling off ledges.. that IS Necromunda.

    • Cergorach

      Yes and no. That is Necromunda if you played it before, most GW customers are on a 3 year cycle. So most have only heard rumours and legends at best.

      How do you represent Necromunda with all that without spending some SERIOUS time on terrain building? The plastic and cardboard terrain was OK 20-25 years ago, but these days it’s not up to snuff. So you would need to go all plastic, that’s a huge investment and the box would cost a ton, new people wouldn’t be as interested in it as they could be now if the box is priced like other board games of the same caliber (like BB).

      There’s a reason why the Shadow War boxed set was such a limited release…

  • So now that I’ve read the ACTUAL article from GW I once again realize how pathetic BOLS is as a ‘news’ page. You can see screen grabs here, or the actual article on the GW page.
    .
    They say the box has the card tiles to represent sewers and such but the game can be played on regular 3d terrain. That’s great, but they sold me with the “modular hair” line. 😛

    • af

      Seriously. This breaking news “article” has little to no info. Why not directly post a link to the actual article with useful info: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/a-closer-look-at-necromundagw-homepage-post-2/

    • benn grimm

      Funny you saw it here first before then going to the ACTUAL article, then came back to comment on it. Could be said the BoLs post did it’s job as a community/news hub and space for commentary pretty well…

      • Actually, I came back to the Disqus page, not BOLS, but then some folks might not realize they are two different things. I saw the video in my YouTube notifications and googled it. GW hadn’t posted the article yet, so BOLS was the only thing that came up.

  • kobalt60

    I’m hoping the multiple shots set on 3d scenery means there is a table top version in addition to the immediately discarded tiles. I swear to you GW, if you frak up Necromunda, I will still buy it, but boy will I piss and moan about it. I will also buy the gangs, fyi

    • BaronSnakPak

      From the GW article:
      “The set’s gaming tiles and simple bulkhead scenery allow you to play games very quickly and easily, and make the game very portable.

      As well as the underhive style of play covered by the boxed set, there will also be ways to play Necromunda with the multi-level skirmishes that defined the classic version of the game. These work great on tables using the Sector Mechanicus terrain sets released earlier this year (great news for anyone who built a Shadow War Armageddon board).

      Both ways to play are tense, tactical games that recreate the no-holds-barred brutality of underhive war – you’re going to have a blast.”

    • memitchell

      I want your “immediately discarded tiles.” I have about 5 GW boardgames I could use them with.

    • Wildcard1980

      Lol this is about the most true statement I have heard that matchs how I feel at this point.

    • benn grimm

      This. ^^

  • So, in addition to d6, I see scatter dice, and two other kinds that appear to be for ammo rolls or sustained fire, and injuries. The markings visible on the injury dice appear to map directly to Flesh Wound (blood drop in cross), Down (broken bone) and Out of Action (skull).

    I see 3-7th Ed-style templates. Thank god.

    I see tokens for On Fire, Loot, Flesh Wound and Broken, plus one other I can’t identify (Overwatch? Blind? Hidden?).

    I see a little wedge-shaped bit that looks like a sight arc tool, which means the old 90° rule is still there.

    I see 2nd Ed-style stats on those cards (incl. M and I), but with additional save types at the end: looks like CL (or CH. Chemical?), Will, and Int.

    These are good signs.

    The terrain is very Zone Mortalis-ish, which we knew was coming. It’s a good method for creating flat-pack portable terrain to keep the game easy to transport and help keep costs down. And it’s not like we weren’t all using Space Hulk tiles for fights in tunnel and vent systems anyway. Considering the article explicitly calls out old-school skrimish rules on top of what’s presented, this is good. More options is always better than less.

    I DO NOT see any Juves. This is really no surprise, because there’s no way in hell GW would get away with openly depicting young teenagers killing each other these days, but is disappointing nonetheless. However, since we’ve all been converting and scratch-building and generally DIYing this stuff for fifteen years now anyway, this isn’t much of a loss.

    Alright, I’m officially excited now.

    • Gary Pearce

      Great breakdown, thanks. Are you in the Yaktribe?

      • I lurk, but haven’t really had cause to join the community proper so far.

  • Malisteen

    Loving that Escher gang, apart from the boss with her somewhat overblown hair and kind of awkwardly positioned whip. But the rest of them look great. They’ll fit right in with my Dark Vengeance chaos cultist, adding some welcome gender diversity to my units. Evil is an equal opportunity employer, after all.

  • Mike Tbone Green

    ooo yeah!!!

  • Kiskatona

    The centrepiece on the first art shot…..is that Mad Donna? Seems like she lost the pointy bra and found something a little more sensible.

    Now I’ve seen a few shots of the Escher gang all together…..I’m liking them a lot more, to the point where I’m now considering starting a new gang. Though I agree with Malisteen that the boss’ whip does look a bit awkward. Hopefully there are other options in the box.

    • Brian Griffith

      I do expect we’ll see Mad Donna in resin at some point, though as you said, I’d expect the old Material Girl to get revised a bit.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        Maybe a new name that is not as punny? Or more up to date.. like something to do with Miley Cyrus….

        • I_am_Alpharius

          Naaa just a make-up laden face and wobbly old person chicken-wing arms still pretending to be 30…

          • Severius_Tolluck

            I’d buy that for a dollar!

          • palaeomerus

            Mad Donna is in a motorized wheel chair with an iron lung installed. Heh.

        • Brian Griffith

          She does have an actual name they could use. “Mad Donna” is just what you call her when you hope she’s not in earshot.

          D’onne Ulanti is her real name.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            True, but the whole point is so she could make fun of who was a pop culture reference at the time. Just like they used to have that model called Ram Bones, and Sly Marbo.

      • I_am_Alpharius

        Is that because she’s living in a material world?

  • Wildcard1980

    Well GW has done it again. They have taken a great game and turned it into a crapy board game. I dont even need to see the rules to know this game is going to be crap compared to the original. You take a game from a 4×4 table to a 2D board game. At this point I am done with GW.

    • Brian Griffith

      Read the actual GW article.

      2D isn’t the only way to play with the rules in this box.

      • LankTank

        Don’t get in the way of some one jumping on the moan wagon with such trivial information as facts.
        As stated he doesn’t even need to see the article, or the rules to start complaining.
        He is probably even professional at it

        • Wildcard1980

          Well not a professional but I have been playing the game since the original box set when it came out 20+ years ago. What I am saying is that taking a game from a 4×4 3D table top and making it work on a small what 2X2 board is a huge change. That doesn’t fit with any of what the game was back when it can out. So while you can say I’m moaning this is moaning with an eye to what the game was.

          • Gary Pearce

            no, the new added stuff doesn’t fit as its new and added.

          • Well technically Confrontation was the first version of Necromunda and that wasnt a 3d game. All the artwork was tunnels and cramped rooms. We have come full circle.

    • Kiskatona

      It is odd that this time BoLS didn’t provide a link to the original article, but there they say it can be played on 3D terrain. They specifically mention ‘great news for anyone who built a Shadow War Armageddon board’, so I’m assuming it’s a 4×4 board.

      • Wildcard1980

        Right but the rules are going to be based of it being a board game. So at this point unless there is some kind of maricle this is going to ruin everything that was good about the old game. Its turning into space hulk with gangs.

        • Brian Griffith

          You seem to be commenting on a game you’ve imagined inside your head instead of the game GW has been talking about pretty openly.

        • Kiskatona

          Right now we know diddly and squat about the rules. Can’t we wait until they start talking about the mechanics before declaring doom and gloom?

          • BaronSnakPak

            You can’t have an article about GW without declarations of misery and unreasonable expectations.

            -Come look at this new GW thing!-
            “I don’t know what it is yet, but I hate it, and knew they would screw it up from the start.”

          • Wildcard1980

            There is a difference it’s not new it’s over 20 years old. To take a game that was totally based on customizing a gang to your liking and make it into a board game with stat cards for gangers is crazy. So unless they are missing a lot of stuff from the pictures. Cause I don’t see any kind of gang roster I don’t see any way to mark down how many guys a ganger takes out so you can lvl him up. Now it is just a box set but I see a lot to be worried about with what I see.

          • Brian Griffith

            The only way you can really reach this conclusion is by ignoring all the news that has come out about this so far.

            Like the news from FW Open Day when they said this is just the starter set, that they’d be covering all the original gangs in plastic, then moving on to the expansion gangs, the fanatic gangs, Hive Secundus, resin characters, etc.

          • Wildcard1980

            Right it’s a starter set for what’s suppose to be a narrative game that has a rule book smaller and thinner then most games. The set for SWA at least came out the what they where passing off a narrative play. So unless they are going to start selling sepperate campaign sets or selling a campaign book on its own I don’t see much to think there is going to be much customization.

            I don’t really care about models if there is no setting to go with it. Necromunda was the narrative play all I see so far is a board game that you and have different gangs to fight with just like you can use space wolfs or other marines in space hulk.

          • Brian Griffith

            Are you… just sort of sticking your fingers in your ears and humming every time I say something that contradicts what you’ve assumed this to be?

            This is a full game line. They will be selling these gangs separately, in addition to further gangs. It is going to be supported. You’re trying to make it as if one product tells you everything when even the information we have so far shows there’s two modes of play:
            *A Zone Mortalis style mode using corridors.
            *A more three-dimensional style using walkways the likes of which you can make using the Sector Mechanicus kits.

            We have it straight from the horse’s mouth that there are loads of weapon options in the gang kits, as well as multple head choices, and even modular hairstyles from what GW is telling us. Your gangers will all look unique.

          • BaronSnakPak

            From the GW Community article:
            “We’re very pleased to say that both these gangs will be full, multi-part kits, with an enormous level of customisation.

            One of the best things about Necromunda is building a gang and equipping your gangers with wargear, and each kit is absolutely packed with options. There are weapons for any situation, from classics like the stub gun to more esoteric choices like the repurposed industrial equipment of House Goliath or the chem-weapons of the Eschers.

            As well as these, you’ll be able to arm your gangers with grenades, gas masks, additional armour and even modular hairstyles. Whichever gang you build, each member will be a character in their own right – perhaps a lumbering Goliath bruiser equipped with a rudimentary stub-cannon, or a fast moving Escher assassin wielding twin duelling laspistols.

            The set’s gaming tiles and simple bulkhead scenery allow you to play games very quickly and easily, and make the game very portable.

            As well as the underhive style of play covered by the boxed set, there will also be ways to play Necromunda with the multi-level skirmishes that defined the classic version of the game. These work great on tables using the Sector Mechanicus terrain sets released earlier this year (great news for anyone who built a Shadow War Armageddon board).”

            Choose to ignore the bits that dispels you worries if you feel like staying worried.

    • memitchell

      Curious. When has ever GW taken a great game and turned it into a crappy board game? Oh, right. Never. They have made some good boardgames. The Warhammer Community article (which is MUCH more informative, and MUCH less controversial) says the game can be played as a boardgame AND a skirmish game. Maybe if you had ever played any of the boardgames, you’d have a little more faith.

      • Wildcard1980

        I have played space hulk every version of the game. In fact I still own the original terminations that came in the box set. I have play most of the others. I am not saying GW makes bad board games I am saying that Necromunda as a game will be a bad board game. But. as proff of GW turning a good old game into a kind crappy game is Warhammer Quest and the silver tower those while the game play was ok it just isn’t a good as the old game.

        My worry is yes it says you can play both but please tell me where you can make a game even and balanced when you can go from one game in a 2×2 flat board with just walls to a 3D board where distances can double or triple and still use the same mechanics and have each gang be ok.

  • James Pridgen

    The CL is Cool it was a stat in early Warhammer Fantasy, Rogue Trader, and The Realms of Chaos books

    • Severius_Tolluck

      AKA Nerve, or composure… Yep. Or haha, remember Sagicity?

  • Brian Griffith

    Looking at the plastic parts of the scenery, I’d wager they slot right into spots on the Sector Mechanicus stuff, extending their versatility. The tentacle in particular looks like it’ll fit right over a Sector Mechanicus manhole or Prometheum Relay pipe end.

  • I’m starting to think the re-release of all these old games is so they can upkeep the IPs for video game licensing.

    • Brian Griffith

      You don’t spend hundreds of thousands on new plastic molds just to keep a trademark alive.

      • I’m not saying its the only way they will make money, but all the old TM’s are coming up.

      • Morat

        Yet another reminder that GW has a salaried staff making tools for them. Manufacturing costs are not significant when you have that infrastructure. They would be wasting money if they weren’t constantly churning out new sprues. Only remaining cost they do have to bear is the cost of a block of high grade stainless steel. Not insignificant that, but not a six figure sum by far.

  • Sonic tooth

    how dare those female characters display their blatant femininity! its a disgrace to women everywhere! breasts?! absolutely disgusting!! i demand gw redesign these minis with boring chest plates.

    sincerely,

    Mr easily offended overly p.c gamer.

  • GrenAcid

    I claim that white haired lady as mu waifu. GET YOUR FILTHY HADS OF SCUM!!
    Great trailer now I have to find someone to share box with cuz Im sure they wont sell it in parts like just gangs.

    • bomster

      Well, they did repackage the Human and Ork teams from the Blood Bowl set a few months after it came out. So I assume that each of the six gangs will be available separately in time.

  • euansmith

    Well, TTCombat are going to be happy to have a new market for their Death Quadrant terrain.

    https://ttcombat.com/collections/sci-fi-gothic-scenics/products/death-quadrant

    • Neal Laxman

      That’s pretty cool terrain, love how mdf can be used for so many things!

  • J Mad

    I want those models for my Wyches…. to day Wcyhes are bad

    • Gary Pearce

      Hilarious that for the last two decades people have been using wyches as Escher…

      • J Mad

        Well when wyches were knew the other models were 8yrs+ now wyches are 8yrs + old and these models are new 🙂 funny how that works

  • thomas28

    Necromunda was one of the best games I have ever play in my life

  • Foxdonut

    Well, looks like it is time for a very expensive all female conscripts army.

  • Rainthezangoose

    This better be £60 tops

    • I_am_Alpharius

      Wishful thinking – unlikely. Far more like to be in the £95-100 range; similar to Bloodbowl.

      • Albert Ross

        Blood Bowl was/is £65

        • I_am_Alpharius

          Whoop my bad. Corrected 🙂

          • Rainthezangoose

            Exactly it’s a small model count and has flat terrain. The reason Horus heresy and Deathwatch are so expensive because they basically come with two small armies, this is two small squads…like £65 would be MAX this would be worth based on what we have seen.

          • I_am_Alpharius

            Perhaps split the difference and it will be priced around £75, like Space Hulk has been in the last couple of runs. Similar sort of product consisting of a load of cardstock and some minutes. I feel it will be slightly more expensive than Blood Bowl, since there is a lot more card-stock items in there.

          • memitchell

            Have you guys actually seen Space Hulk? It comes with:
            12 Space Marine Terminators,
            1 Artefact, 1 Dead Space Marine, 1 C.A.T.
            22 Genestealers,
            1 Broodlord
            1 Rulebook,
            1 Mission Book
            And, a load of cardstock (which really does count as content).

          • I_am_Alpharius

            Yes. I have owned two editions. Why are you getting your pannies in a twist and getting all high and mighty.

          • memitchell

            You sound like you don’t know Space Hulk came with 37 miniatures. Bloodbowl looks to be the best comparison. ($100).

  • I_am_Alpharius

    WOW. Looks awesome. Interesting root to take by have simple card and small plastic terrain in the box. Its good that rules will still allow to use the “traditional” Necromunda multi-level battlefields through using the Mechanicus terrain.

    • Gary Pearce

      surprising in that shadow war is Necromunda 2.0

      • I_am_Alpharius

        yeah it is.

      • Riddel

        Id say 1.5

  • benn grimm

    Excited about new Eschers, slightly perplexed by the lack of decent 3D terrain/addition of what look like new rules. Fingers crossed they accompany this with terrain and gang kits. I’ll give the new version a fair try, but not in the bowling ball sector of the under hive.

  • zeno666

    Its a board game?! LOL!! What an epic fail!

    • I_am_Alpharius

      Read the actual WH-Com article before complaining! The set comes with the 2D card stock and some small scenery bits, but full rules will included how to play on 3D terrain features too i.e. the mechanicum stuff and 40k stuff et al

  • Troy Dean

    It baffles me that people aren’t actually reading the Warhammer Community page. Here, directly from their article:

    “As well as the underhive style of play covered by the boxed set, there will also be ways to play Necromunda with the multi-level skirmishes that defined the classic version of the game. These work great on tables using the Sector Mechanicus terrain sets released earlier this year (great news for anyone who built a Shadow War Armageddon board).”

    There’s more information in an article than just the pictures; Hugh Hefner isn’t the one peddling our plastic crack.

  • Thomas

    By the Throne, that video was cool.

  • Admiral Raptor

    A little underwhelming for me. I don’t much like the Escher sculpts and the provided terrain is a little anemic. I would have preferred a box more like the original. I’ll wait and see how it develops, and maybe grab a squad of Arbites whenever they get around to them.

  • drakus40k

    Well, we can always use the new minis with the old rules…

  • phobosftw

    Hey everybody -Looks like the scatter die is back <3

  • Xodis

    Wow look at those Khorne and Slaanesh cultists models!!! lol

  • Brandon Rutter

    Check out Vince Venturella’s vid on his experience at the seminar. GW explained the game and their thinking with the release of this boardgame version and its expansion into the full “Gangwar”. Vince covers all that was said very well

  • Shinnentai

    Goliaths look great, but must admit I prefer the original Escher minis. I’ve got half a dozen hanging around somewhere, but I’m still hoping we’ll get one of those ‘Made to Order’ rounds for the original range (haven’t seen any Made to Order in a while).

    • memitchell

      I’m interested in the size of the minis. The original Necro minis are metal (except fro the simple plastic in the box set). Plastic minis have grown over the years. These look like they might be oversize. They might not match well with previous minis.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        OLD minis will make great juvs and medium level gangers, and then the new ones will be my all grown up legends!

        • memitchell

          Don’t think you’re thinking like an Escher.

          “Hey, Esmeralda, now that you’re are full-fledged Ganger, you’ve gone up three dress sizes!”

          Followed closely by the sounds of screaming and gunfire.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Tou`che pussycat, tou`che! True true, I was thinking more tiny youth grew up, despite some women wishing they never had.

  • Dan Wilson

    Those Eschers… FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

  • Richard Mitchell

    Great looking minis and a board game is great! I actually want to play this more, even if it doesn’t’ get support. As long as the rules are fast and loose, it should be a lot of fun to play in an afternoon with friends in the kitchen. I am hoping the 150 dollar price tag is not true. I usually expect 60-100 dollars for most really great board games but 150 seems like a bridge to far for me. Especially since it looks like this will be a one off.

  • Max Knickerbocker

    The game has rules to use 3-D terrain. Mentions the new boxed sets available separately

  • That’s not just artwork, that’s awesome!

  • Killer Bee

    such a rip off games workshop is now

    • I_am_Alpharius

      No more or less so than many other luxury pastimes people enjoy. It boils down to the level of personal enjoyment/pleasure etc.. someone gets from wargaming (or many other pastimes).

      • Killer Bee

        A new single space marine has gone up over 600% since I last played 20 years ago. $60 for a new space marine is beyond stupid. when my youngest boy hits high school, miniatures will be $100 each. It just saddens me as I would love for my older sons to get into 40k.

      • Killer Bee

        Yes but none of my other hobbies have gone up as high as over 600% since i started them.

  • Rayna M. McCowan

    18 mini’s and a bunch of terrain. I really want the Escher gangers and a lot of them, perfect Slaaneshi cultists.

  • memitchell

    A rumor from NOVA says Necromunda: Underhive is a boardgame set in the bottom of the hive. It is gridded like Zone Mortalis, but uses a ruler. An immediate “expansion” called Gang Wars moves the game up into the Underhive, and is the tabletop game. I don’t know if this is real, but it is the most reasonable thing I’ve seen about the game, so far.

  • Wildcard1980

    I will stand corrected but I do blame GW for some of this. If they came out and said they would be releaseing a seperate rules set that follows the old necromunda more closely at the same time they release the board game then they would have saved a lot of moaning. I’m still a little worried about what the rules are going to be because of them releasing it as a board game but at least the board game is not the focus of what they are building.

  • Timotheus

    Those Esher gangers scream “I wanna be converted and join your awesome inquisitorial force!!!” at me…….count me in!

  • Dan

    A lot of these comments seem to ignore that the terrain and gameplay showed seem to be strictly on a grid instead focusing on t he lack of 3D terrain.

    I’m sure 3D terrain is forthcoming but more importantly it being a grid sounds great to me. That simplifies a lot of thigns and also eliminates a *lot* of the issues with managing templates. Actually establishing an abstracted game board means they’re putting much more thought into the game design and mechanics than just “eh I guess measure in inches or whatever”

    I think that’s pretty encouraging, 3D terrain notwithstanding.

  • Boondox

    Meh. I’ll pick up the tiles that nobody likes on Ebay and use them for Space Hulk. This is a very lackluster release for such a good game….

  • Manwiththedogs

    Fear not. It isn’t just a board game according to Warhammer Community page, it’s the real deal. Finally! FINALLY!

  • Thalandor

    Can’t go wrong with big guns, big muscles and boob armour.

  • Mikey_V

    I played a bit of Necromunda back in the day, but not too much. I wasn’t very psyched for this initially. But that video trailer is pretty dope lol. I’m getting kind of hyped for it.

  • Riddel

    It is a shame that there is no multi level terrain In the box but GW have confirmed that there are rules for it.

    Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/a-closer-look-at-necromundagw-homepage-post-2/

    I also read that all the original gangs will return plus all the outlanders gangs and some new ones will be added but can’t find the source.
    If this is true that should be at least 11 different gangs to choose from soon after release

    A price has not bean announced but I would expect it in the same ball park as blood bowl.