CSM Codex: Daemon Primarchs are On the Move

We’ve been keeping close tabs on the traitor primarchs and GW is advancing their stories.

The Chaos Marine codex is here and GW is following up on the plot from Rise of the Primarch regarding the traitor-primarchs.  Here’s the story of what happened to each Primarch updated up to the new codex. Some of these stories are vague, and many of these stories are quite old.  In any case, I have a feeling that with Guilliman and Magnus making their return GW is keen to return as many of the brothers to the tabletop one way or another.  I’ll mark the dudes who are dead in italics.

Welcome to Traitorville: Population 6 (maybe 7 – Alpharius is a snake)




Horus – Heresy Era



Horus – now…

Horus was killed by the Emperor of Mankind, and his soul was obliterated. His corpse was completely destroyed by Abaddon the Despoiler, who also took over his place as overall leader of the Chaos Space Marines.




Daemon Primarch – alive and kicking, plus he got his old house back!

Magnus rose to the rank of Daemon Prince of Tzeentch. He’s gotten his vengeance on the Space Wolves, made peace with Ahriman, and moved out of the Eye of Terror back to his original home on Prospero. He’s tried to kick Roubuttes ass on Luna and most importantly, has the first Daemon Primarch mini.  All Hail Magnus!




daemon_prince_angron_by_alex_boydDaemon Angron – SPOILER – He’s MAD!

Angron rose to the rank of Daemon prince of Khorne. I think we can assume that after his scantily clad EPIC days Daemon Angron has gotten some fancy clothes aside from a necklace. I think we can assume the light gladiator armor, insanity-dreads and and axe will all be there.  I would expect a Magnus sized mini that is even angrier than Skarbrand with a lot more gold trim.  It BETTER have a bunch of dead dudes/skulls on it’s scenic base. He’s been busy of late – this is what Codex CSM says about his recent activity:


Mortarion rose the rank of Daemon Prince of Nurgle. He’s not too hard to put your finger on; we have multiple images to use as a guide. The top one is from the Horus Heresy Card Game, the middle from EPIC, and the lower one is from the post heresy “Mortarion’s Heart” novel from Black Library.


Daemon Mortarion – Black Library novel cover

Mortarion, 8th Edition artwork.

Almost certainly Morty’s giant scythe.

I would expect him to be of Magnus’ size, with membranous wings, the giant scythe, and lots of Plague censors atop his ornate if corroded armor and possible tattered cloak. We last heard Mortarion plotting with Fulgrim in Rise of the Primarch and personally dueling with Guilliman during his 8th Edition invasion of Ultramar.  I have a feeling Morty is right around the corner with the Death Guard codex and his mini should be amazing based on that artwork!



Daemon Fulgrim

Fulgrim rose to the rank of Daemon Prince of Slaanesh. Luckily we have very good art of exactly what the serpent of Slaanesh looks like…

He’s a 4 armed serpent with wings, 3 swords, 1 whip and a totally arrogant face. What’s not to love? His armor is perfect and extra ornate – just like he’d want. If they just made that image in plastic at the same scale as Magnus it would be awesome! Last time we saw Fulgrim he was whispering sweet nothings into Guilliman’s ear and was sighted mowing down Astra Militarum in Rise of the Primarch.  I think we can safely count him in the “getting a mini” club.




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Lorgar – Daemon Prince

Lorgar rose to the rank of Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided. Here it starts to become a detective case because the official information is very scant. The only official artwork shows that Daemon Lorgar keeps his mace; and has four large horns sprouting from the four cardinal points of his head, almost like a crown. In one piece of artwork he has has large grasping daemonic hands. The Aurelian was never the largest or most potent of Primarchs on the battlefield, and I would not expect him to be as a Daemon Primarch. I would expect a slightly smaller than Magnus mini looking like an upright proud Daemon Prince. I would expect his mace and armor coated head to toe with Colchisian runes, books and tattered scrolls flowing in the wind.

Codex CSM updates his story and is sounds like Guilliman’s arrival is heralding his return as a player.  Read this:

That sounds like a LOT of cultists headed Guilliman’s way!




Perturabo – Heresy era

Perturabo rose to the rank of Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided. Here is the greatest mystery of all, as there are no images of Perturabo post Deamon Prince. He was pretty much a “man in the machine” when he was mortal and I would expect to see GW take that theme and amp it up to 11 on a Daemon Primarch mini. GW could go almost anywhere with Perturabo, but I would expect to see a Magnus sized part-man-part-daemon-engine flowing with gears, hydraulics, mechadendrites, his giant hammer, and plenty of firepower.

Codex CSM gives us this little bit on Perturabo, the first new writings on him in years:

So two key points – He’s still got his hammer and like Lorgar, Perturabo is now out of his house and on the warpath.

Night Haunter


Night Haunter Heresy Era


Night Haunter – Now…

Konrad Curze, aka Night Haunter, was assassinated by Callidus assassin M’Shen. He allowed her infiltration, apparently wanting to die.



Alpharius Omegon, Alpharius was apparently killed by Rogal Dorn during the Battle of Pluto, and Omegon assumed his title afterwards. After the Heresy, Alpharius (or perhaps in reality Omegon) was reported killed by Roboute Guilliman on Eskrador. But the source which reported his death may have been manipulated. It is not known if Alpharius or Omegon is the Primarch killed in the report. Due to the report’s unreliability, neither may have been killed.  

Good luck on this one.  I for one thing think he should never be given a mini and stay lost in the shadows of legend and folklore forever. Even better how about a set of rules with no model to reflect *his presence and attention* on the battle at hand, with no model. I AM ALPHARIUS!

What’s GW Up To?

I think it’s hard to read that and not think that GW is priming the pump for the return of all the known Daemon Primarchs. In fact I’m starting to get a suspicion that with 8th Edition, GW has seen the success of the Horus Heresy setting and is trying to re-bottle the magic. What if 8th ends up being the conclusion to the Heresy with all the living Primarchs on both sides returning to continue the conflict?

~What do you think GW is planning with the primarchs?


  • Damon Sherman

    I kinda miss when the Primarchs were off the table and left to be mysteries. Well, that cat’s out of the bag now.

    • Munn

      Only the loyalist primarchs were mysteries. We’ve always known what the traitors are up to.

    • Graham Bartram

      I kind of like having the Horus Heresy stuff giving us different ways to play, primarchs, whole squads of space marines with plasma weapons and stuff like that. You know, the stuff that wasn’t in 40K.

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        There is still one thing 30k has that 40k doesn’t… decent rules.

        • weeler

          Its 7th edition rules, written by GW. In time it will be converted to 8th. How is it different?

          • Mike Holmberg

            Mainly the codexs as HH does not have the mess of free units and rules that 7th had via detachments (also you don’t have the multiple detachment mess 7th had).
            In rules that ignore moral are very rare so moral actually matters.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            FW have said they aren’t going to 8th but instead they are writing their own version of 7th.

        • danbond

          only somewhat correct, 30k plays far better than 7th Edition 40k every did due to not having to worry about bucketloads of special rules, nasty detachments etc. That said, 8th does play better than 30k.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Well its a matter of taste, but I find 8th greatly lacking in tactics and feel compared to 7th.

  • YetAnotherFacelessMan

    You skipped half of Fulgrim’s section.

  • Nyyppä

    Well, Lorgar, if he ever gets a mini, will be the logical last step. I just hope that they get rid of the horns.

    • YetAnotherFacelessMan

      I will be angry if he doesn’t have all 4 of them. They’re part of his look, just like Fulgrim’s snaketail or Magnus’s chest tusks.

      • Nyyppä

        I don’t think that it’s a good idea to make a model look so bad that most would not use the model just because of the shame it brings with it’s looks. The horn nipples on Magnus are bad, but that 90s blow out hair simulated by horns is just not acceptable.

        This is Lorgar now. http://i46.tinypic.com/vfcily.jpg

        • YetAnotherFacelessMan

          Nope. Doesn’t matter to me. I understand updating things when you’ve got an idea to improve them, but you can’t be ashamed of your source material. Lorgar has four horns, one for each chaos god, because he is the iconic Undivided guy. If they take that away, it’d be the same to me as making a new model for Commissar Yarrick that had a reasonably sized prosthetic hand. No. He has an ork power klaw. It’s stupid, silly, and over-the-top. That’s what makes it great.

          • Nyyppä

            I have no problem with 4 horns. That’s just the wrong way to do them.

          • YetAnotherFacelessMan

            They form the star of chaos… that’s the only right way to do them.

          • Nyyppä

            They form a comical Ace Ventura type of a hairdo. They could have put 2 horns either side of his head and it could have worked. They could have put all 4 horns on his forehead to form a crown. I can probably think of a dozen more ways to make it not automatically look bad. The one in the pictures can not not suck.

      • Rafał Pytlak
        • Vayral

          I wonder at what point he thought “hm, my legs feel odd”

          • Rafał Pytlak

            Well considering he ascended during the heresy, and shrieking in orgasm while at it…probably he paid it no mind.
            A loss of his “kielbasa” being a hedonist of Slaanesh, now that’s a problem…

          • Graham Bartram

            pssst… snakes have two “kielbasa” buddy. XD

          • Rafał Pytlak

            Then by Slaanesh…rejoice! Twice the sticks, twice the fun! ^_^

          • IronGryphon

            So much for perfection!

          • xD!

    • Fergie0044

      Honestly I’m surprised he wasn’t sooner on the release list – I mean who’s really invested in the bitter rivalry between G-man and Magnus? Give us Lorgar or Russ and lets see a proper grudge match!

      • Nyyppä

        Not disagreeing, but since GW has made it their mission to make WB useless in the game I think we are safe to assume that Lorgar either never gets a mini or it’s the last one of the bunch.

        • Fergie0044

          🙁 shame, story wise he’s the one I most want to see. Game wise I’m getting morty next month!!!

  • Diagoras

    “He was pretty much a “man in the machine” when he was mortal and I would expect to see GW take that theme and amp it up to 11 on a Daemon Primarch mini. GW could go almost anywhere with Perturabo, but I would expect to see a Magnus sized part-man-part-daemon-engine flowing with gears, hydraulics, mechadendrites, his giant hammer, and plenty of firepower.”

    Yeah, you’ve pretty much nailed what I’m hoping for.

    Don’t expect to find out for quite a while, though. Not until all the Cult Primarchs are released, at the very least.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      I am expecting something like a super Soul Grinder.

    • danbond

      Whilst I’d love to see a Perturabo figure for 40k (Iron Warriors is my main army for 40k, always has been), I’m not convinced they’ll do any of the traitor primarchs except the 4 god specific ones

  • Fergie0044

    “The Aurelian was never the largest or most potent of Primarchs on the battlefield”

    Say what?!?! Yeah back when he was loyal but after his ‘awakening’ he’s now a psyker only slightly less powerful than Magnus and in the early days of the heresy was right hand man to Horus. Read Betrayer and tell me he isn’t now up there with any traitor Primarch in terms of power. Not to mention the word bearers still being a powerful and relatively united legion in 41M. I’m still holding out hope for Abaddon to die and Lorgar to step forward as the new high priest and warmaster of chaos!

    • YetAnotherFacelessMan

      I think he could definitely have a role as a buff-generating/summoning guy. It would be extra great if, like Guilliman, he only had 9 wounds. That way you could hide him behind a wall of lesser daemons and cultists. 😀

    • Aura1

      He did become psyker powerful, but he would still have been crushed by Guilliman if Angron hadn’t been running around like a tanked up Milwall fan. Not sure Lorgar should suddenly be big and powerful – but a walking psychic buff bubble no doubt.

      • Fergie0044

        Naw he could have taken G-man or at least made a good go of it. He deliberately chose not to in keeping with the prophecy that he could either kill him for personal glory or not for the greater good of the war effort.
        i assume getting Angron to demonhood (and therefore not dying to the nails) was better for the war. But hey, there more books to coem so its still up for debate.

  • Rafał Pytlak

    Lorgar is back from his 10, 000 bathroom break? Things will get freaky. Maybe he’s behind the Cixa…cita…the new galaxy size rift? Or he spended the last 10 millenia putting Argel Tal’s soul back together?

  • euansmith

    “… four Chapters of Adeptus Astartes, two Titan Legions and over thirty Imperial Guard Regiments…” barely sounds enough to restage the D-Day Landings, let alone retake “three dozen star systems”.

    • georgelabour

      Four thousand marines, several HUNDRED warlord titans plus escorts, and potentially millions of front line guardsmen.

      Now remember that a single squad of marines can make the difference in a planetary campaign. Now multiply that by a hundred.

      Also we’ve seen a ‘mere’ demi-legio of only four or so Warlords, plus escorts, burn a new volcano into a spot where a hive city once stood.

      Finally a regiment of guard is a more nebulous label than in reality. It can consist of anything from a platoon of survivors all the way up to corp sized organizations.

      • euansmith

        Thanks, I didn’t realise that the titans came in such big chunks. Otherwise, four thousand Marines isn’t much to write home about given how they perform on the tabletop 😉

        • georgelabour

          The size of a legio is not a fixed thing. The ordo Sinister is a mere dozen titans but all are psi-titans (or imperators in previous lore)

          Most legions have a great deal more titans than that. They just end up split into smaller battlegroups and demi-legios since only the most important operations would require a hundred warlords.

          If you want an example of the carnage that just a ‘mere’ demi-legio can inflict then the book Warlord isn’t bad.

          AS for tabletop performance vs lore depictions…

          Sorry my dancing shoes got worn out the last time I had that discussion.

      • Rafał Pytlak

        A difference when fighting humans/orks maybe.
        A daemon primarch having FIFTY THOUSAND KHORNE BERSERKERS + daemons? Yeah, I don’t buy the “4 chapters was enough” crap

        • georgelabour

          This crusade was in the aftermath of Angron’s crusade. As in, he’d come and gone by then.

          Also note it said it took seven centuries.
          Which means those 30 regiments were just there at the start and likely got some backup during some of that.

          • Rafał Pytlak

            Hmm…true, i might have overlooked that part.

            Still, would like to know how much imperial resources was thrown an Angron’s little crusade when it was in full swing…

  • pokemastercube .

    the hammer perturabo has isnt actually his. it belonged to ferrus manus before fulgrim took it from him and then gave it to perturabo

    • Rafał Pytlak

      Ferrus had it for less than 200 years. Perty has it for over 10 millenia.
      I think by now it’s more Perturabo’s than Manus…but let’s not “lose our heads” over this subject, okay? 😉

      • ZeeLobby

        Only if you ignore the fickle time flow of the warp. Perty might have only had it for what felt like 199 years.

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          or a million years…

  • wibbling

    Fulgrim would be an astonishing model. A huge snake body, lapping and looping over itself, then rising up to his torso, four armed and giant Dorghar esque wings behind that?

  • Talos2

    Curze didn’t want to die, he wanted vindication. And he was never a daemon primarch so I’m not sure why he’s here

    • Graham Bartram

      There is no permanence in flesh, only death. Praise the machine, praise the Omnissiah.

  • lemt

    For Alpharius Omegon they could pull a “Trazyn the Infinite” and have him replace any un-named character you control. For example, you could keep him in reserves, and at the beginning of any of your turns have him replace any un-named character you control because IT WAS HIM ALL ALONG! But when killed you only get points for having killed the original character, because OMG IT WASN’T REALLY HIM, WAS IT?

    • I approve this idea because Alpha Legion = Shenanigans.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      They kind of do that now by shifting their Warlord title around the battlefield to every single character in the army.

  • Richard Mitchell

    Makes a good excuse to stop supporting 30k.Though the 8th ed Primarchs may be worth it. They will look awesome.

  • MrLodgik

    WHAT ? Perturabo cannot have forgebreaker because the Iron recuperated the damned thing from him ?

    “is thought that the weapon, possessed at some point by four different
    Primarchs, was in the hands of Perturabo until it was taken from him,
    during an assault on a world around the Eye of Terror, by the Morlock captain of the Clan Avernii, thus returning one of the most prized artifacts of the Horus Heresy back to the Iron Hands chapter.”

    • Red_Five_Standing_By


      • MrLodgik

        It’s what written lore wise

  • Randy Randalman

    Okay, no, they won’t be Magnus sized kits. Magnus is that big because, A) he was always taller than the others anyway; and B) his sorcery and exaltation as a follower of Tzeentch have perpetuated the illusion of his grand scale.

    Expect Guilliman to be closer to the scale of most of the Primarch releases (at least for the torso and limbs).

    • I expect all the Loyal primarchs to match Guilliman’s scale – but the Daemon-Primarchs are just that …daemons. That gives the sculptors lots of flexibility to make over the top crazy kits. I really want Fulgrim to be like a coked-up Studio54 Mawloc.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        I imagine some of the Primarchs will be different.

        Like Russ could be a werewolf.

        Khan could be a Motorcycle-Centaur.

  • piglette

    Primarch Hammer 41,000: Collect all 12 primarch action figures today!

  • IronGryphon

    You mean he still has Ferrus Manus’ warhammer which houses the entrapped spirit of the Iron Hands’ primarch and will be released when made contact with a special relic hidden away by Clan Kaargul on Medusa.

  • miniwar monger

    I love to see them back. I sucks that 40k is the main System and doesnt have real frontmen and we were left with the 2nd row to star the show.

  • luke-vdv

    Now we just need proof that Alpharius or Omegon are actually leading loyalist Alpha Legion forces from the shadows. Or maybe one leads Chaos and the other Loyalists (if the deaths aren’t true). Either way, I want to see a model damn it. The mystery is cool, but I want a model to field.

  • Fomorian

    Would be nice to see a full new Civil War within the imperium with all those famous primarchs, loyal and heresy ones in their demon form. Anyway it definately means more cool and amazing models for us the hobbyists :)! …