GW BREAKING: Confirms Next Three 40K Codexes & More

From the horse’s mouth at NOVA Open we get word on that the next three codexes of 2017 will be.

New Codexes

We’ve had a bunch rumors doing the rounds, but GW just pulled the covers off the three codexes after Adeptus Mechanicus:

 

Craftworld Eldar

 

Tyranids

 

Astra Militarum

 

 

Chapter Approved

Next up we hear more on the 2017 Chapter Approved book will include:

  • Updated matched play points for all armies.
  • Campaign system for planetary invasions.
  • Apocalypse rules.
  • More Narrative Play and Matched Play missions.
  • Vehicle Construction Rules return!!!
  • Expanded rules for factions that have not yet recieved a codex to equalize their power.

 

HOLY COW – The Vehicle construction Rules were crazy back in 5th Edition.  This will be interesting…

~Have at it!

  • generic eric

    What are “vehicle construction rules?

    • Defenestratus

      Think mad garage 40k style…

    • Malisteen

      points for stats/chassis, guidance on how many weapons, rules for variant weapons (modifiers like gattling, long barreled, etc. Basically, a semi-official system of homebrew rules for scratch built & kit bashed vehicles, plus monstrous creatures for bugs. They were a ton of fun, if utterly broken and as such never allowed in competitive play.

      I’m actually shocked to see they’re bringing them back, considering how GW have beem moving pretty hard against providing rules even for weapon swaps not supported in currently produced kits, let alone kit bashes or scratch builds.

      • Brian Griffith

        Bear in mind, it’s only for open and narrative play, not for matched.

        • Malisteen

          Even so, semi-official support for scratch-built and/or kit-bashed models on any level is surprising to see from GW given recent trends.

          • Matthew LeBlanc

            Also Custom Knights. Think of the possibilities.

          • Nic Bryan

            Think bigger…I’mma make a Warlord Titan now.
            With fists and guns.

          • Atogrim

            Actually, it is not. Of course GW is running the turnament track hard. But on the other hand they play the bring-what-you-want track for the casual players.
            In my opinion, that perfectly fits into what they are trying to do for the casuals at the moment.

          • Malisteen

            It really doesn’t though. Everywhere else in the current rules, they’re dropping support for anything that doesn’t have bespoke kits. See the bike and daemonic steed riding heroes dropped from the space marine and chaos marine codeces, the dreadnoughts losing their dual-dakka rifleman builds since those options aren’t in the box. Yeah that stuff is still playable from the index, but even then only kind of – for instance the steed-riding CSM index characters don’t get their legion rules and can’t access most of the stratagems in the book.

            There has been a definite trend towards ‘if it doesn’t come in the box, then you can’t play it’, whether in matched play or not. This is the first explicit support for kit bashing from GW in…. years.

          • euansmith

            Promoting Kitbashing would help sell more kits; especially with idiots like me who will pick up a kit rather than buy a bit off a Bitz Seller.

          • Xodis

            Idiots unite!!!! Yeah I do the same. I can always justify a whole kit for a single bit…somehow…

          • euansmith

            “But… but… you can only get that headlight with the Baneblade kit!”

          • IronGryphon

            Yippie! My squadron of Rikarius Pattern Razorbacks shall scour the foul xenos in the name of the Emperor once again! Woot! Woot!

            A couple weeks ago, I specifically asked customer support about my custom vehicle and make rules for them. Now it’s offical, he he.

      • Prisoner 42

        Could you make transports? because It would be a great excuse to bring the pain train (triaos) for mechanicum I don’t care about the cost I want to use it in 40k.

        • Nic Bryan

          Or the Ordinatii. Cheap titan-killer? Sweetness.

        • A.P.

          Back in 5th I designed a Fire prism transport. Made up rules why it could only transport Fire Dragons and the whole bit tons of fun. I think I still have the Twin linked Fusion guns for the bottom turret.

          • IronGryphon

            Or build your own transports for your Primaris Space Marines 😉

        • Malisteen

          Back in the day you could make transports, and land raiders are specifically mentioned for these rules, so it seems a safe bet.

  • Defenestratus

    Eldar baby! Yeah!

  • DoctorBored

    This is bigger than people realize. Admech, Eldar, Tyranids, and Astra Militarum.

    My bet is that we’re going to get more Primarchs, and the next one is going to be a loyalist, since this puts 3-4 Codexes between now and the next big release… Here’s hoping that Eldar at least get a few updates to some of their older models while they’re at it.

    • Defenestratus

      Unlikely but I’m hopeful that we finally get some new plastic aspects with their accompanying Phoenix Lords but I’m not holding my breath…

      • DoctorBored

        Yeah, sadly. I guess they want these codexes released by November? That doesn’t allow for any time to release actual models for any of these.

      • Cergorach

        I seriously doubt we’ll see plastic Phoenix Lords anytime soon…

        Replacing the Craftworld units that aren’t yet in plastic is already a massive undertaking. Seeing as how long it took for the new Jetbikes to release after the leak of them years ago, I suspect probably a couple of years…

    • Malisteen

      I doubt any of the currently announced books after death guard will be getting new models, other than maybe a separate release of Cawl for the Admech book and Eldrad for the Craftworld book. Would be nice to see, but probably shouldn’t get our hopes up.

      • bobrunnicles

        Standalone release of Cawl is already confirmed – $55 I think (!).

    • Dooms Day

      well. of course we were gonna get more primarchs including loyalist. like almost all of the daemon primarchs are back walking about. Even lorgar is back.

    • Pcm979

      I’ll put money down on Russ. He’s the most popular of the remaining not-dead Loyalists, and he’d synch up nicely with the inevitable Thousand Sons Codex.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        Problem is, Lion has been teased, he is also at a known location primarch, and is alive.. just… rip van winkling it atm.

        • Pcm979

          Where was he teased?

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Teasers months back, through comments about a lion. Although could be AoS, it was a strong feel. Plus the fluff pushes he may be the next Primarch. But yes I feel Russ would be a more welcome one, and popular, despite fluff. Although I thought Russ or Johnson would have been far more likely then Gulliman so…

          • Rafał Pytlak

            We don’t take kindly of these there heretic wolves from Ferris, in these parts son.
            I take Lion over Russ any day. Now please give me that sweet sweet Sanguinius model. My precious Golden Hawk boy…

          • I_am_Alpharius
          • Rafał Pytlak

            We know Alpharius, we know…

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        The next one will be Russ. There has been a lot of foreshadowing for him, both in the fluff and by the developers.

  • DoctorBored

    Also, that Chapter Approved better have more in it than just FAQ and updated points, being 35 bucks that we gotta pay every year if we want to make our armies properly.

    • Severius_Tolluck

      Will have planetary strikes rules, apocalypse, and various other new modes for narrative play and such.

  • TenDM

    Awesome. Next I just need Blood Angels.

    • Pcm979

      You and me both, buddy!

      • pokemastercube .

        me three

        • Rafał Pytlak

          Me fourth…fella.

  • Sleeplessknight

    “Vehicle construction rules?”

    Dear god, please no…. I remember those abominations from 3rd ed.

    • Matthew LeBlanc
      • jexinator

        OH, so that’s where the Primaris Repulsor came from …

        • Cergorach

          Yes, it came from a deodorant bottle, something virtually unknown among the 40k players since the Rogue Trader days… 😉

        • It’s where the Rampant Rabbit came from, rather.

      • Luca Lacchini

        Still looks better than the Repulsor

      • bobrunnicles

        That actually kinda fits with a Tau aesthetic 🙂

        • OldHat

          * T’au

          • bobrunnicles

            Lalalalala I can’t hear you 😉

    • G Ullrich

      The vehicle construction rules are just for Land Raiders for now – to customize them – so not the wild west from 3rd.

  • ReveredChaplainDrake

    Kinda’ funny that IG come after Tyranids… and the representative image that BOLS chose for IG was a Genestealer Cult Leman Russ, of all things. So basically Eldar, Tyranids, and more Tyranids.

    I feel I should be more stoked that I am that Tyranids get an update this fast, but really the best that could happen is plastic re-releases of resin models (looking at you, Biovores). I’m a bit too gun shy that we’ll suffer a massive, massive, massive, massive, massive nerf, and the rules are really what matters at the end of the day.

    • AwesomePizza

      I smell hearsay and infection. Get the flamer.

      • Matthew LeBlanc

        To late for that. GET THE NAPALM.

        • AwesomePizza

          Wait why doesn’t Guard have a flyer with flame weapons? Spraying fire all over the battle field?

        • Pcm979

          Phosphex for everybody!

    • Jabberwokk

      All your tonkz are belong to us.

      You have no chance to survive.

      make your time.

  • KombatWombat

    Not to be That Guy, but…

    The authors on this site have been saying repeatedly that ‘GW has said’ ‘we’ve been told’ ‘it’s been confirmed’ that Xenos Codex books come out next year and that this year would focus on Imperium vs Chaos.

    They created their own rumour, perpetuated it enough on their own site that they could use their own previous articles as a reference for something being confirmed, then spouted a rumour they started as truth.

    This is what happens when you drink your own Kool-Aid.

    • Are you new here? This is perfectly normal behavior for BoLS.

    • I_am_Alpharius

      I suspect wherever that rumour came from was related to”new models” as opposed to codex’s and a conclusion was leapt to – ever since I heard it I’ve not believed it. So I doubt that any the of the Xenos books will be accompanied by any major models, baring any kits that aren’t currently available separately

    • BClement

      So Death Guard are next month (September) and that’s probably a 4 week release.

      After that it’s Ad Mech (October)

      Then we’re going to get Shadespire (November)

      GW typically doesn’t do new stuff in December, it’s all packages and “discount boxes” type releases.

      Then we kick off a new year with 2 Xenos books and then Guard.

      So this year was the year of Imperium and Chaos. Next year is the year of the Xenos races…

      How are they wrong again?

      • Blinghop

        GW announced it will be 10 codices by the end of the year (Death guard makes 4). Also, judging by the release of Grey knights and CSM in the middle of primaris releases, we’ll likely get admech a week or two into the death guard stuff. After that, they can do another double release of the next two books if they don’t have models and releasing the last in November early December wouldn’t be an issue. Besides, there are still 2 more codices to be released if GW is to keep their schedule.

        I don’t care either way about the rumor, but your time table is off. It’s easy to forget most of these are going to be just the book drop without the fanfare of new kits. It is real easy to sneak in a book or two among other releases.

        • BClement

          That’s true too, but don’t forget AoS releases mixed in there as well.
          And are we counting the Chapter Approved?

          I know the plan was 10 books by the end of the year – we’re probably not going to get new kits for them however, so I agree with you.

          That said this year was still Imperium vs Chaos. If the Xenos books come out (Eldar then Tyranids) that still sets up quite a few more Xenos books and a xenos-centric theme for next year.

          That was the point I was trying to make, even if the timetable was off. Thanks for pointing that out.

      • I_am_Alpharius

        Deathguard codex’s are on pre-order 9th September for release on 16th. Only items that appear to go on pre-order for Death Guard that weekend are: Codex, Mortarion, Datacards, Dice and a webstore exclusive (box of 3 Plag-Marines) called The Plague Brethren.

        Ad-Mech Codex, along with Cawl, are on pre-order 16th September for release on 23rd. Oddly the “Collectors Edition” Ad-Mech codex is being sold earlier, with pre-orders on 9th for release on the 16th.

        No other Nurgle stuff is advertised in the WD. However, since WD does not strictly contain every release for a month, it is a safe bet that the other kits will be coming later in the month on the 23rd and 30th.

        Shadespire appears to be October and Necromunda is November.

        *All dates from WD

        • BClement

          Yes – thanks for pointing that out. I don’t have next months White Dwarf yet and I skip the leaks on those.

          Still, there are a few other Death Guard kits not mentioned like the new Plague Tanks thing – as you mentioned.

          Even still, if Shadespire is October and Necromunda is November, Ad Mech will be in there somewhere. I stand corrected.

          Oh and don’t forget we’re getting Blightwar now and that probably means we should be getting a Nurgle Daemon book/supplement for AoS as well. We’re not even talking about GW’s releasee schedule including AoS stuff (which folks seem to forget about).

          I still don’t see how the anyone is saying that that BOLS is wrong about next year being the year of Xenos releases. That was my initial point. My timetable was slightly off, but the point still stands:
          This year was clearly an Imperium vs Chaos theme. Next year we should get a ton of Xenos stuff for 40k.

  • kobalt60

    First thing listed in chapter approved is updated points. You’d think the lesson learned in AoS would not have been forgotten so quickly. And returning VDR rules? So…….now that everything has been renamed, and IP issues are settled, they are encouraging use of models from other systems? Hello again Dreamforge

    • Luca Lacchini

      I’m honestly more stoked to field my alternative Leman-Russ(es) based on WWI MkIV british tanks.

  • DawnStone

    Time to start praying for those plastic aspect warrior sculpts again!

    • TenDM

      Praying for plastic Aspect Warriors, Pheonix Lords and Rangers, expecting new dedicated Ynnari units.

      • A.P.

        Ynnari are not Craftworlders and would have a separate release. But yes, pray to Khaine for new aspect sculpts in plastic.

      • A.P.

        and in addition who is to say they havent been sitting on new aspect sculpts for over a year now. they have created most if not all of the parts for them in the form of plastic Autarchs and wargear so the CaD files are in place just have to do some switches here and there to make the kits and extra bits.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        We won’t get plastic Phoenix Lords. At least not en-mass. They are too niche.

  • markdawg
  • Crevab

    Glad they’re varying up the releases rather than the speculated Imperium and Chaos only

    • Iconoc1ast

      To a point. If 2018 was going to going to be the year of the xenos as many had speculated then maybe there may have been some new kit releases with it. They might pull some rabbits out yet though. I would love to see a plastic Lictor!

  • ANevskyUSA

    So these vehicle construction rules means that I can have my dreadnought with an autocannon or multimelta again? Or my land speeder with 2 multimeltas or 2 heavy flamers? It would be nice to be able to use my already-painted models

    • Rabid Wombat

      When were those particular loadouts ever made illegal? Just because the models GW produced didn’t have the particular weapon options available doesn’t mean that there wasn’t published rules for their use (which admittedly is silly that the baseline Multimelta for a dreadnought isn’t available anymore since Black Reach went out of print).

      • ANevskyUSA

        I guess it depends on whether you think that a datasheet in the Space Marines Codex replaces a datasheet of the same name in the Index. I can see Index datasheets that have no Codex equivalent being still valid (like the Imperial Space Marine or Kor’sarro Khan on Moondraken), and GW has said as much, but doesn’t the Codex datasheet for a “Dreadnought” replace the Index one for a “Dreadnought?” The Codex datasheets have removed options from, inter alia, dreadnoughts and land speeders that do not come in the current kit.

        • Rabid Wombat

          From the Warhammer Community, May 7th article “Codexes; Your Questions Answered”. Yep, I read that if it isn’t in the Codex, but it *is* in the Index, then the Index takes precedence (aka Khan still on Moondrakken). Notice they also include the Land Raider Terminus Ultra, which as far as I know hasn’t ever had rules in the Space Marines Codex. Of course, you are now working out of two books, so you have to make sure that all the keywords are playing nice with each other.

          • ANevskyUSA

            Yeah. That’s why I think that the vehicle construction rules are needed to field a dreadnought with an autocannon now. While that option exists in the Index, it does not exist in the Codex entry of the same name – it is no longer listed as an option in the datasheet itself, and “twin autocannon” has been removed from the dreadnought heavy weapons list.

          • Holger Wurst

            You don’t need Vehicle Construction Rules in order to play a dreadnought with autocannon. GW explicitly kept the Index options alive:

            https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/codexes-your-questions-answered-july-5gw-homepage-post-2/

            “While the indexes are designed to cover a long history of miniatures,
            the codexes are designed to give you rules for the current Warhammer
            40,000 range. There are a few options in the indexes for some Characters
            and vehicles that are no longer represented in the Citadel range –
            certain Dreadnought weapons that don’t come in the box, or some
            characters on bikes, for example.

            Don’t worry though, you can still use all of these in your games if
            you have these older models. In these instances, use the datasheet from
            the index, and the most recent points published for that model and its
            weapons (currently, also in the index).

            They still gain all the army wide-bonuses for things like Chapter
            Tactics and can use Space Marines Stratagems and the like, so such
            venerable heroes still fit right in with the rest of your army.”

  • Charles Lowry

    Interesting at Craftworld Eldar. I kind of thought there would be a combined Aeldari Codex.

    • phobosftw

      Whaat- you really thought GW would make a dumb move like that? as many codexes (yass) as possible is the way, maximizing profits ftw!

  • Dennis J. Pechavar

    Welcome to the Imperial Guard!

  • That Craftworld Eldar book better come with some Aspect Warrior plastic kits, because it has been nearly a DECADE since the Dire Avengers plastics came out. It is way beyond time for some Aspect Warriors model support. And a nice big Eldar Avatar too!

    • A new Avatar is much needed! It is such a shame that the Avatar has been languishing for decades!

      • phobosftw

        The Forgeworld models are perfect, no need for new designs, imo anyways..

    • PiotrekEtoo

      New Phoenix Lords?

      • phobosftw

        Praying for this – the Jain Zar model is currently the ugliest model of all time, they need to do her justice!

    • PiotrekEtoo

      Shining Spears and Warp Spiders didn’t get an update at all. Well, Shining Spears are an upgrade kit for old jetbikes…

  • Gunther Clone C

    Funny they used a GSC for Astra Militarum’s photo. 🙂

  • Iconoc1ast
  • Amdor

    I dislike idea of changing points in separately sold book. Its errata thing to keep points balanced. Or even better – playtesting (i see your eyes widening gw) and actually selling at least somewhat balanced codices

    • Fraser1191

      I think their reasoning was here’s all our new stuff and we may as well through in point changes for the book only people

  • Pete McGwire

    Forget custom vehicles, I just want Stealth suits with smart missile packs.

    • CthulhuDawg

      Wait, that’s a thing?

  • Silverbeast

    Nids!! OMG, nom nom nom:D

  • Fergie0044

    So that’ll make it 4 non-marine codexs in a row! Who’d have thought?

  • Antoine Henry

    Already a Chapter approved after 3 month, they like to sell stuff… Not even after all codices are out…. I still wonder why people pay for those garbage and just not download them for free. Paying for miniatures that you like ok (even if you can find them rapidly at -30% to -50% secondhand almost new), paying for books absolete before you have finished reading them ? Nay

    • mhtsaropinigitakis

      totaly agree…i have never paid for a book the last 10 years.. i amde the mistake 2 times but never again

    • OldHat

      What? Really? The Index books were specifically made to level everything for the new edition. They were always a stop-gap. And that is it. Otherwise, Chapter Approved clearly has more in store as a supplement and replaces nothing. Jeez, quit crying about these obviously positive changes. GW seemingly cares about their game for the first time in a long time. That is good, even if we have to buy a book here and there (god forbid!).

  • luke-vdv

    Damn, still hoping Imperial Guard will be somewhere in the title of their codex.

  • Perturabo

    Did you really use a Genestealer Cult Leman Russ as example pic for Astras? o.O xD xD xD

  • Dalinair

    Looking forward to nids big time.

  • Heinz Fiction

    Finally some real factions…

  • I_am_Alpharius

    Well those “insider” rumours, that no Xenos where a load trite – which I’m not surprised about! There was no way every codex would be a SM centric one. I’d hazard what that rumour really meant was that an Xenos codex would not be supported by large a miniature release as well. My previous codex guest list is buggered. So whats could the remaining two be?

    So far we’ve had (out or confirmed):
    – Space Marines
    – Chaos Space Marines
    – Grey Knights
    – Death Guard
    – Ad-Mech
    – Eldar
    – Tyranids
    – Astra-Militarum

    I think I’ll put my money on: T’au Empire & Thousand Sons. Perhaps there is slim outside chance of a cheeky brand spanking new Sisters of Battle codex in time for Xmas?

    • phobosftw

      Yes – here`s hoping for cheeky brand spanking new Sisters of Battle codex in time for Xmas 😀

    • Jabberwokk

      Looks like I’m getting what I want this time around Alpharius.

      Time for a mocking but stylish chortle.

      *Che-che-che-che-che-chee*

  • Rush Darling

    GDubs need to stop taking my money.

    On another note, excuse the naivety, but I thought points value adjustments were supposed to be available free online? Or is that just on top of this?

    • I_am_Alpharius

      They also will be (only points and updated datasheets) available free online on the same day as release.

  • Chad Underdonk

    Vehicle construction rules return (in Chapter Approved)?!?!?

    So I guess maybe there is a point to scratch building that Gargant for our next big game!!!

  • SWISSchris

    The Leman Russ you’ve used in the Guard picture is the GSC one ; )

  • Jabberwokk

    XENO’s BIIIIITCHESZZ!

  • Severius_Tolluck

    Vehicle construction was chapter approved during the end of third and carried into 4th. Didn’t think it was legal during fifth at all. As it was part of the experimental rules when they were testing 4th. It was also beyond abusable. Hopefully it is much more restricted this time around.

  • Edouard Decaen

    Nids and IG need a serious improvement. I have been disappointed about the nids for so long now

    • OldHat

      …IG need improvement? Uh….

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Nids need an improvement? Did you play the last two and a half editions?

  • Jared McWilliams

    Leman Russ tank is Genestealer cult not Astra militarum in that image..

  • EmperorOfMankind

    Astra Militarum
    *posts pic of genestealer cult Leman Russ.

  • Christie Bryden

    no thousand sons just yet, hope that means it will get new models when it comes, craftworld eldar I dont think will though, they have a full lineup, maybe a few re released kits with more goodies for specific craft worlds.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      They need plastic versions of all the Aspects

      • Christie Bryden

        very true.

  • memitchell

    With both the Tyranid and Astra Militarum codices in hand, the ONLY thing I will need for my Genestealer Cult Codex is my Genestealer Cult Codex!

  • Antonim

    Is that not a genestealer cult Leman Russ? I know, I know, but still one might think there is enough photos of regular AM transports out there.

  • rtheom

    But where are my Tyranid Construction rules? 🙁

  • Rayna M. McCowan

    Glad I held back some money for the IG Codex, surprised Xenos getting books already. But, eh, I don’t mind.

  • Rafał Pytlak

    “Astra Militarum”
    Shows pic of a tank with Genestealer Cult insignia.
    Is there something i don’t know, citizen? I’m calling the inquisition! http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d060a233235e57790b57b3449528def1e5bcbd59f01185178984a7678687e8d.jpg

  • Boondox

    Pure awesome!! Now if they’d start putting Chapter Approved articles in WD then it would be just like the good old days…

  • Rob brown

    Tyranids this year, I am so happy it’s difficult to explain!

  • eMtoN

    Called it – and I don’t even have “insider info”.

  • CF

    I like how the pic for Astra Militarum is actually a Genestealer Cult vehicle. Details, details.

  • Corvak

    Guessing Dark Angels is one of the last ones then :<

  • Does this mean my Kustom Battle Barge or my Stompa with a lot of kustom kit could be playable again? YAY

  • Corvak

    Something fishy…or possibly culty… about that Leman Russ tank