Pimpcron: Warhammer Can Counter Politics

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Pimpcron does NOT discuss actual politics in this article; you’re safe.

Welcome to another edition of Pimpcron’s Philosophy Corner. Today, we are going to tackle how wargaming can show you the true self of your wargaming buddies.

I Have Two Friends

Well, I actually have way more than that, I’m like a totally rad dude. You are all my friends, right? Sure you are, and I have at least, at least twelve readers. That’s why I have so many kids, because making new friends is harder than making new kids. And even if they find me insufferable, they still have to love me. OR ELSE!

I have two friends that are literal polar opposites politically. Unfortunately I am “friends” with both of them on that cesspool of politics known as Facebook. I scroll down and find pro-this or pro-that nonsense from the one, and then a couple flicks of the finger reveal anti-this and anti-that from the other. If a bystander looked at both of their posts, they’d say “Gee, I don’t think they get along.” And he’d say that because my theoretical bystander is kind of a master of understatement. And I’d look at him blankly, incredulous that he’d even think that was worth saying, and reply, “… yeah.”

[Photo hilariously unrelated.]

God help them if they ever got into a political argument, they would probably call each other every name in the book, and really hate each other. They’d look at each other as stupid, or fascist, or a “sheeple” or any other assortment of names to paint each other in negative light for not agreeing with their point of view. I’ve seen both of them post some non-facts about the other party, and both of them are guilty of posting totally dyed-in-the-wool political talking points.

But Here’s The Catch

These two guys are super, super nice guys. They both have families and love their children, they both are good to their spouses, and they are both the first people to drop everything and help you if you need a hand. Literally two of the first people to offer help with my convention Shorehammer last year were these two. If you post a picture of a model you just painted, they are quick to give a good comment and a like. Never a bad word or negative comment comes from them, and they are always supportive of their friends’ personal events like baby videos, graduations, etc.

So I stand here and look at these two talk to each other calmly over lists they’ve built, or new releases they’re excited for, I can’t help but laugh. Because if they were talking politics, they would hate each other and call each other names as they trigger each other with talking points.

“So then I said, ‘No, you’re the stupid’. And then he saw my side of things.”

So which is it? Are they terrible, brain-washed, narrow-minded sheeple for their respective political dogmas? Or are they loving husbands and fathers who are always willing to help a friend?

The Truth Is …

Despite what they may claim or post of Facebook, I judge people on their actions instead of words. (That’s why I hate the Kool-Aid Man) And from what I’ve seen is that both of them are great people. Sure, they may not see eye to eye on social topics or policies, but when they are at the Warhammer table, they are just people with a shared hobby.

So if they are both great people, then this must all be a misunderstanding. I can’t possibly see these two people as nice people on the outside, but horribly evil people on the inside. Here’s what I think the truth is: they both want what is best for humanity, the budget, and each other. But they have different ideas of what is “best” and different ideas on how to achieve it. If we all took a minute to look at our radical fellow wargamers and saw just how cool they are, we could start fixing things for the better.

It has been said that there is no true evil in the world, only shellfishness and ignorance. Which seems kind of unfair to shellfish, because how can they change what they are? Oops. Ya know, on second thought it seems more fitting to use the word selfishness. Oohhhhh! Selfishness. Now that sentence makes a lot more sense to me after all these years. In all honesty I was planning on just glossing over the first part and focusing on the ignorance.

Man, I hate when a bad word pun gets in the way of philosophy.

Any-who, we have to start understanding that there is more than one side to a person. I’ve discussed before that our stereotyping is a tool that our brain uses to understand and classify our world (even if it is poorly used and hurts people). But sometime we have to sit back and say to ourselves, “well, he is total rube online, but gee in person he’s a sweetheart.” Then chuckle that we called our big burly friend a sweetheart.

So come on guys, we may see different views on what is “best” and may have different preferred paths. But until we realize that the other one isn’t just simply an evil sheeple, we will continue to get what we’ve gotten. Off the top of my head: war, bad things, Serenity cancelled, nasty stuff, poverty, and Lil’ Wayne. You don’t want your children to grow up with more Lil’ Waynes, do you? I didn’t think so.

Wargaming can help show up that we are mostly good people, if we take the time to look.

Well, most of us except Tau players.

Tell me how terrible Tau players are in the comments, and how they don’t deserve your respect or friendship!

Countdown until someone is accused of being a Nazi in 3 … 2 …

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  • NagaBaboon

    The Nazis were just shellfish really

  • Shiny Dog

    Awesome pimpcron. Thanks for starting another Friday off with humor. And yeah I agree, tau players are TERRIBLE. Something about those fish people always hollering about the “greater good” that just rubs me the wrong way. Or maybe its how they never, and I mean NEVER, move from their deployment zone. And don’t get me started on these so-called “crisis” suits….

    • Pimpcron

      See? This person gets it.

    • ReveredChaplainDrake

      And how the Tau are so greedy that they treat the Kroot like second-hand citizens. You might say the Tau are kinda’…




  • Ben_S

    Wargaming brings us together. Except those WAAC jerks. They’re selfish and ignorant.

    • Jabberwokk

      Lines drawn sir! Lines Drawn!

  • NNextremNN

    Well fk you too you dead robot space nazi.

    • Pimpcron

      lol. I guess you play Tau?

      • NNextremNN

        Oh come on you were asking for this I even bet you have some Tau models yourself 😛

        • Pimpcron

          I’m ashamed to say that I did have the beginnings of a Tau army once, but sold them after never playing a single game. SO I’M CLEAN!

          • NNextremNN

            Sure thing keep telling that yourself 😉

            You helped bringing them into the world even if you couldn’t handle the greater good yourself.

          • Pimpcron

            No! Lies! You’re twisting things! 😛

  • gordonshumway

    Following Pimpcron’s logic he must be funny, clever and a really good writer in person.

    • Pimpcron

      Thanks! All of that is true. You have a good eye for talent.

  • ABorder Prince

    Judge people on there actions amazing people need to be told this. Nice read GG

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      Actions like how they vote?

  • m3g4tr0n

    “Pimpcron does NOT discuss actual politics in this article; you’re safe.”

    Such a missed opportunity to trigger people.

  • thereturnofsuppuppers

    bad article man.

    • Pimpcron

      How so suppup? Gotta give me more than that.

  • tau4eva


    • Pimpcron

      Says the Tau player. lol

  • Jabberwokk

    The Hivemind cares not. We like you all equally….in our belly.

  • MechBattler

    Politics have become just plain silly. This is the best approximation I can find.
    The chimps are politics, we’re the raccoon. And that just happens ALL day long.

    • Pimpcron

      Oh snap! poor raccoon. He’s in the wroooong neighborhood.

  • Carey_Mahoney

    “Wargaming can help show up that we are mostly good people, if we take the time to look.”

    LOL! 😀

    • Pimpcron

      Lol. Editor didn’t catch that and neither did I.

  • sonny2dap .

    Now for some religion with a 40K twist,

    “There is neither believer or non believer, neither slave nor free, nor is there male or female for you are all one, as part of the hive mind.”

    Primus Galatian, revelations of the great hunger.

  • Severius_Tolluck

    Wow I am surprised that extremes from both sides did not add two sense on here! Almost proud of the internet for a change!

  • gordonshumway

    I thought I’d just take a cheap shot at Pimpcron and leave it alone as I normally do, but something about the banality and dishonesty of this piece, along with all the people head-bobbing and patting the author on the back made me want to expand a bit on why this piece, more than any other Pimpcron has ever written, really grinds my gears…

    Despite what Pimpcron would have you believe by setting up this cherry picked example (or hypothetical) here, rarely is there ever a situation where two sides are equal in the demonstrative lack of morality in their beliefs and actions, or the disconnect between the two. While it is entirely possible that both of these people the author describes are equally troll-like online but pleasant offline, it is VERY unlikely. And almost irrelevant.

    The author claims to judge people on their actions, but somehow this only counts the actions they engage in offline, when they are not protected by a cloak of pseudo-anonymity and surrounded by an echo chamber that agrees with them, or in some cases with close friends and family too wearied by their behavior to engage with them.

    Political disagreements and partisan bickering is one thing, but it is a slippery slope. Some things people say, lent undue weight due to our culture’s worrying obsession with giving equal weight to both opinion and fact, are hurtful and destructive to the lives and well-beings of others. For example, I would argue that a person who engages in hate speech online (my own example here, not what Pimpcron proposed above obviously) but behaves reasonably well at the gaming table is still someone I want absolutely nothing to do with. They may be a consummate sportsman at the FLGS, but if I know or find out that they make racist jokes in their spare time, in all honesty, they are worth less than zero to me as an opponent, and really, as a member of a society. And the people who tend to drag either the soft or hard forms of this type of behavior into the game store, most often alienating people in the minority (queer gamers, women, and people of color) tend to be from one end of the political spectrum. Confident that others should just grow thicker skin, they peddle borderline acceptable versions of worse things they say online as simply an edgy, in-your-face personality.

    Unfortunately we have gotten to a place in our culture where the scourge of false equivalency and a misunderstanding of the virtue of “tolerance” has fooled people into believing that they must accept anti-social and destructive speech and behavior, especially online, because “everyone is entitled to their opinion.” And in gaming/nerd culture there is too often a plethora of mental acrobatics done to excuse and defend similar behavior offline under the cover that gaming and geekery, traditionally dominated by young alienated white men, is the bastion of those with poor social skills, who mean well but just don’t know any better.

    Anyway, my point is this: We all know better. We know what it means to be a compassionate, moral person as well as what it means to be a good sportsman. We shouldn’t excuse poor behavior on- or offline just because someone “is mostly nice” or “doesn’t know any better.” We should confront anti-social behavior, and try to engage those who bring it to the gaming table to make them aware of both the effects their actions and speech have on other gamers, and why they aren’t entitled to it and it won’t be tolerated.

    “Can’t we all just get along” only works when you use peoples’ differences as an opportunity to teach them to be better, not when you use their similarities to ignore glaring inequity in their positions.

    • Pimpcron

      These are, in fact, two real people and the point was to show that we need to find common ground. When that is established, we can build empathy and more understanding. Understanding, of course is bred from the lack of ignorance. So if we ever aim to settle our silly left-right verbal wars and actually fix things, we need to try to understand where the other is coming from. because most people I have met are not actually evil. Just ignorant and selfish. Both of which could be remedied if they had empathy for their fellow human. Also, I never said hate speech from either of these guys. They are both quite political and polarized, but not bigots that I’ve seen. So you and I aren’t talking apples to apples exactly. I agree with what you said, but you have to also understand that even bigotry is from a lack of understanding. it’s really easy to look at someone who is different and say “I don’t like them, I’m better” until you get to know them and realize they are decent people. What is the starting point for reaching out and getting to know someone? Common ground. Like warhammer.

      • gordonshumway

        Your “decent people” comment again attempts to establish a false equivalency, and is hilariously close to what just got our president in a lot of hot water. That both sides are equally to blame for their inability to be civil is both simply false and ignores my main argument, that the root of the problem is an imbalance in inherent value between facts and opinion, between what is demonstratively true and what people “feel”, or more correctly feel entitled to feel.

        We need to remember that tolerance is an agreement, not an inalienable right or get-out-of-jail-free card. When people break that agreement they are not entitled to tolerance in return until they can reestablish the original terms of the agreement. There is an EXTREME moral difference between being intolerant of destructive behavior, speech, and social/religious/political views, and being intolerant of large groups of people due to essential and immutable parts of their being.

        Framing this disharmony as “left-right verbal wars” is disingenuous at best, and dangerous at worst and is a product of our media abdicating their responsibilities for the past several decades. And, to be perfectly honest, it speaks to the worst our country has had to offer almost since its inception. In service of free speech and false understanding of “tolerance” we allowed people to voice totally maniacal ideas and opinions in the political arena, ending up in the delightful national hangover that is the current presidency and our ongoing era of “alternative facts.” Not every opinion is created equal and not every idea deserves equal time. You are not entitled to my understanding if your idea is pure lunacy, and you are not entitled to my tolerance if it is dangerous or works to actively harm others. Period. I do not have to meet you halfway, and in fact as a moral person I shouldn’t.

        However, I acknowledge that your original example is probably not so extreme. It is admirable to try to find common ground with others, to engage civilly where you can and to pursue deeper knowledge that leads to understanding. I just think your article was tone-deaf and poorly timed for a period in our nation’s history where the most powerful person in our country tacitly endorsed, or at the very least offered sympathy for, white supremacy, one of the most destructive human institutions in the short history of our species, with polls showing that decent majority of his supporters agreed with that sentiment. This is nothing less than unacceptable, and it is not something that kumbaya-ing over a tabletop game is going to fix. Because while I can disagree with someone over their opinions on taxation, education, military spending, corporate welfare or any number of other civic issues and happily meet them halfway in conversation, I cannot share a gaming table with someone who believes that large swaths of their fellow citizens are less than human or somehow deserve less dignity based on essential elements of their humanity, despite whatever misguided excuse they may have for holding those beliefs.

        • NNextremNN

          Pimpcron never went into detail about what those two people disagree and never said they used hate speech against any minority.

          Let’s say person A want to increase taxes to create free education for everyone. Person B wants to lower taxes so everyone can pay for education. Their goal is basically the same but there methods are fundamentally different.

          Like you said the pseudo anonymous echo chamber the find on the internet and social circle enforces their opinion and makes the other opinion an enemy which has to be destroyed by all means. While I agree this is generally a bad behavior. I too appreciate they leave this out of the game and can still enjoy a game with each other. Even better if they agree they just have different opinions and can still be friends.

        • Pimpcron

          Once again, I think you’re probably not seeing this, but you’re making a pretty good-natured and positive article into more than it is. You keep going off the rails of my topic, because you are clearly mad about other things. And with everything going on in the world, you should be mad. But those other things you mention are not my topic. lol

      • gordonshumway

        And I just want to say to you separately that the reason I poke so much fun at your bad articles is that I believe you should know better. From the handful of great stuff you have written (which if you will note, I have cheered appropriately) and from your appearances in other 40k related media I gather that you are an intelligent and thoughtful gamer and person. I just think the majority of these throwaway BoLS humor articles are kind of beneath you. I see you as one of the only contributors of value to this pretty mediocre website, so I would hope you’d use that responsibility to elevate the conversation, not play the role some sort of tongue-in-cheek wiseacre. I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed in you.

  • faeslayer

    On occasion I’ve found out the player across from me was a straight-up bigot.

    I don’t feel like playing against people like that, so, I don’t. And I don’t really feel like a super fun game of Catan makes up for being a dick out in the real world. We probably like some of the same bands, too, who cares?

  • BrianDavion

    welcome to life, where you can have fun and get along fine with people if you don’t discuss politics. Discussing politics publicly used to be seen as a bit of a abd thing. something it was unwise to do because it could unnesscarily make enemies.