40K: Blood Angels Don’t Need Centurions

Centurions “missing” from Blood Angels? More like “skipped over by the” Blood Angels.

When we first teased the Table of Contents, a lot of folks noticed a “missing” unit from the Blood Angel: Centurions. But I don’t think this was an error at all – in fact, I think it was totally intentional as the Blood Angels took one look at them and said, “Nah. We’re good.”

First off, the Blood Angels have a certain aesthetic they try to uphold. They are master artisans of war and of art. The Centurions just don’t fit in… The Blood Angels like Gilded Golden Warriors and Black-Clad Terrors. The Centurions like the 80’s a tad too much.

 

Aside from the “Look” the Centurions also don’t fit the play style of the Blood Angels. They like fast, aggressive armies that give in to their preference for close combat. The Centurions…well… they just don’t seem to be able to keep up. “But at least they can ride in Transports!” Yes. But maybe that’s why they can’t keep up to begin with.

 

But for all you folks that are screaming about how awesome they are on the table – the Blood Angels have other options to run besides Ripley’s Exo-Power Armor. For Close Combat the Death Company fill that role just fine. And don’t discount the access to Death Company/Furioso/Librarian Dreadnoughts – I think BA are just fine on the Close Combat front.

And in terms of shooting fire power, yeah, missing Grav-Centurions does sting…But the BA has Baal Predators and…okay, you got me there! Not having them does stink for the Blood Angels. I guess the Vanilla Marines will just always have that one extra thing over Blood Angels. Quick everyone, burn your Blood Angels and start over with Ultramarine or the world will end.

Those aren’t Blood Drops. Those are Red Tears.

But on a more serious note, Centurions are SUPER expensive in all three catagories: Points, Power Level, and Price (money). Frankly, as a Blood Angels player myself, I’m not really missing them in the book. The Blood Angels got the new shiny Primaris Marines and they have some really great Close Combat options that are made better by their rules. Would I like to have Grav-Centurions? Sure. But it’s not like I can’t just take an allied detachment anyways. How else am I going to get a Loyalist Primarch on the table?

 

Centurions?! We don’t need no stinkin’ Centurions!

What’s your take on the Blood Angels and the “missing” Centurion units?

 

 

  • Aurion Shidhe

    RE: the last pic – too soon man…

  • Drpx

    Also, not a Primaris model either. The phasing out has begun.

    • Jonathon Runge

      I hope so. The problem still remains with their lore. That is my one overwhelming problem with them. They don’t contain self destructive flaws that make for interesting 40k “protagonists” and factions. They make the setting less interesting. They are economically unsustainable and would drive forge worlds into rebellion trying to supply them while also hindering supply lines for the Guard. Given the precarious nature of any system in the dark Imperium deploying and sustaining Primaris Marines is like late WW2 german tank philosophy. Damn stupid and driven by the policy of inept leaders. Accept the ones given, make no more, and send the rest to the front while you make something that makes sense given the situation. Just making a more stable gene seed would have done actual good. Thunder Warriors with modifications based on gene seed would have been a good addition based on established lore. Take all the washouts for the space marine trials and turn them into short lived super solider cannon fodder.

      • Karru

        You clearly haven’t been following the latest trend with GW writing skills. They no longer make good storylines. That was one of the reasons why they did a hard reset for Fantasy and why they pulled a deus ex machina in 40k. The writers they currently have for the new models they want to sell just don’t have the talent to write a proper characters/factions.

        There are really no more “limiting” factors for either world. In 40k, Primaris Marines don’t just stomp over everyone because it would remove everyone else as a faction. Meanwhile in AoS, the reason why one faction isn’t overpowering the other is purely based on the fact that the leader(s) of the said faction are too overpowered, but only on their own playground, so one faction cannot go stomping over the other. Those are the only things keeping the lore in “check” right now.

        Before in both Fantasy and 40k they had absolutely fantastic rules placed that made sure no one could go “this faction wins because of this”. In Fantasy, Chaos couldn’t win because the Gods didn’t want to destroy the world as they needed the Mortals in order to exist, also the forces of Chaos were quite disorganised and could go disloyal very fast. In 40k, Imperium was just too big to fall, but due to their overly religious tendencies and the degrading technology, they couldn’t overpower all the other factions.

        Neither of those rules exist any more, which does make me sad. Luckily I can just ignore the garbage lore and use my own canon.

        • Snord

          You say it’s all about selling models, but the main reason for ditching fluffy limitations on factions is whining from players, who don’t like to miss out on anything.

        • LankTank

          I think the herald of this lore death was with the GK codex and anything Matt Ward touched, looked at or breathed on. Then you have poor people like Adrian Smith trying to fix his nonsense.

      • Karru

        You clearly haven’t been following the latest trend with GW writing skills. They no longer make good storylines. That was one of the reasons why they did a hard reset for Fantasy and why they pulled a deus ex machina in 40k. The writers they currently have for the new models they want to sell just don’t have the talent to write a proper characters/factions.

        There are really no more “limiting” factors for either world. In 40k, Primaris Marines don’t just stomp over everyone because it would remove everyone else as a faction. Meanwhile in AoS, the reason why one faction isn’t overpowering the other is purely based on the fact that the leader(s) of the said faction are too overpowered, but only on their own playground, so one faction cannot go stomping over the other. Those are the only things keeping the lore in “check” right now.

        Before in both Fantasy and 40k they had absolutely fantastic rules placed that made sure no one could go “this faction wins because of this”. In Fantasy, Chaos couldn’t win because the Gods didn’t want to destroy the world as they needed the Mortals in order to exist, also the forces of Chaos were quite disorganised and could go disloyal very fast. In 40k, Imperium was just too big to fall, but due to their overly religious tendencies and the degrading technology, they couldn’t overpower all the other factions.

        Neither of those rules exist any more, which does make me sad. Luckily I can just ignore the garbage lore and use my own canon.

    • But they did get a bunch of other non-primaris stuff ported over 🤔

  • Kabal1te

    So is the “blood angels didn’t get thunderfire cannons” article next?

    • Kabal1te

      I don’t think they got ironclad dreadnaughts either. I think that’s about all they didn’t get though unless I am missing something. I probably am.

      • Jason

        Venerable dreadnoughts also

        • SilentPony

          Now that you mention it, yeah, this unit entries seem kinda rushed.

          • Gentle_Ben

            None of these things were in index imperium 1 so for whatever reason it has been part of their plan from the onset of 8th

        • LankTank

          Yeah they only get Death Company and Librarian Dreads. And who wants those!

    • orionburn III

      And then replace Blood Angels with Dark Angels for the same thing 2 weeks from now.

      • Dennis J. Pechavar

        With obligatory snarky comments about them being traitors…because that never gets old.

        • orionburn III

          lol….so much this. “Oh, look, Chaos got an updated codex.”

          • LankTank

            *pats themselves on back* “I’m so funny”

          • Dennis J. Pechavar

            I’m clever and witty! Now on to calling Ultramarines “Smurfs”… I’ve been guilty of this one too many times.

          • Dennis J. Pechavar

            No one ever said that before lol!

      • Spacefrisian

        Thats not how you spell copy paste from Astartes dex with a new flavor and some money thrown at GW.

  • pokemastercube .

    i allways considered the fluff reason being that should a centurion pilot fall to the black rage they just start ripping the suit apart from the inside to try and get out, wracking a perfectly good bit of equipment, so the BA dont use them for that reason

    • Kabal1te

      So why doesn’t a unit inside a rhino that falls to the black rage tear their way out of the vehicle? Also where is the risk of the driver/pilot of any other vehicle or Air craft falling to the black rage? No centurions because risk of black rage is way too much a stretch for a fluff reason.

      • Spade McTrowel

        Schrodinger’s Rhino?

      • The rhino driver is also sick of black rage imho.

        • Bakvrad

          Be my witness!!!

          • Would be fun to drive death company rhino in a random way. 🙂

          • LankTank

            Theirs a movie about that. It’s called Fury Road

      • LankTank

        Because Rhino’s play cool jazz and all the Marines inside are just chilling and scatting. “Scooby dooby dubby Bloody Wuddy wingalings of blood”

    • Spacefrisian

      Aggresors are better for that, they got powerfists.

  • orionburn III

    It’s likely that we’ll see the same exact thing with the release of the Dark Angels codex. While we’re getting access to some things we previously couldn’t take (yay!) I’m okay with certain things being left to individual chapters. Although I would like to have Centurions it’s not the end of the world, and I wouldn’t expect other chapters to suddenly get access to a Dark Talon or Darkshroud.

  • BrianDavion

    blood angels where never going to get centurions. they can’t expect to get EVERYTHING Vanilla Mariens do

    • Spacefrisian

      They are vanilla marines, with there own dex. But dont tell the others, they might figure it out that all Astartes variations could have been in 1 book.

  • Aurion Shidhe

    As a BA player, I don’t care so much that we didn’t get Centurions. They don’t fit my jump pack heavy play style. Note: I didn’t say I won often with my BAs, just that I like playing them.

    However, if it came down to the visual appeal and sleekness of the unit, why do we get the Stormtalon?

  • Totally agree.
    For Sanguinius! Death! Death! Death! 😉

  • Tushan

    Are centurions “awesome!” on the table?

    What did the author smoke I wonder?

    • Fenix Dargon

      A bit of everything?

    • adamharry

      Apparently, I smoked your reading comprehension.

  • Dioscuri

    As a BA player, I’m not wild about the aesthetics of Centurions, so don’t miss them too much. Tartaros Terminators and Contemptor Dreads, on the other hand, are a welcome addition.

  • piglette

    Centurions are some of the worst models GW makes anyway.

  • Joshua Jenkins

    Grav centurions are waaaay too expensive

  • John John Slade

    That’s why Blood Angels are very ‘kind’ to give Blood Ravens a Centurion.

  • Wyatt Thompson

    Heretic,how could you not miss these awesome,but kikkin’ monstrosities??? These things are bloody fudging awesome. I destroyed a chaos Titan with just these mini dreadnoughts. Have your opinion my friend. I’ll have mine.

  • Snord

    I quite liked the Centurion models when I got some (they look better than GW’s photos suggest). A bit fiddly to assemble though. But I think the Primaris Aggressors, which are arguably similar in function, look much better. I am hoping that the Primaris Marines are the future, as their proportions are so much better than the ‘normal’ Marines. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but it’s not the first time the Marines have had a makeover.

    • Kabal1te

      I think the big issue is not that marines got a make over, they needed one. It is that they were made into totally new units. If they had done what they did to say dark eldar back a few editions ago, all new look, all new style, but still the same units and names, people would be fine with that. They could slowly transition to the new stuff while mixing it with the existing stuff. Primaris however is basically a seperare army. They have their own rules, their own transports, and don’t really mesh with normal marines. That’s the problem.

  • Ninety

    Centurions look dumb as hell anyway.