40K: New Factions That Should Come In 2018

Will next year see the introduction of a new factions to 40K?

2018 is right around the corner folks, and that means it is time to start talking about what releases we could see next year. With all of 2017 Codices having been released people are already getting the rumor mill running about what should come next. Now as we’ve discussed, if they keep the same pace of new codex releases we could see as many as 20 new books next year. Despite that rapid release pace it is possible that not every current group will get a codex.. That being said, there is also the exciting possibility that we could get some new factions next year. Now when I say new, I don’t necessarily mean people we’ve never heard of before (like when the T’au first came out). In this case I mean either a faction that’s never had it’s own codex getting one, or a totally new faction being added to the game. Either one would help shake things up and provide for an opportunity to put out a ton of new beautiful minis. So without future ado, lets look at some factions that could, and should, get their own book.

The Fallen

There are some pretty big hints in Codex: Dark Angels that The Fallen are planning something big. Luthor has escaped from the Rock and is gather his forces to him. Moreover, the Dark Angles have apparently underestimated the strength of their wayward brothers. It is now said the Luthor has nearly a Legion worth of marines gathering. Think about that. That means something like a 100,000 or more Marines. That’s a bigger force than most of the other Traitor Legions can field. And yet so far we have only one pretty meh unit and Cypher. If these guys are going to be major players moving forward they need a better way to be represented on the table top. Giving them their own Codex could be pretty cool, since they have survived mostly intact.  Give them a lot of old 30K stuff, make some old looking models for them and bam. Moreover, keep them as having both Imperium and Chaos keywords, and really use them as something new. These guys could also be easy to produce as they could use a lot of the existing CSM and Dark Angel model range.

The Ynnari

Much like the fallen, the Ynnari are supposed to be a major development on the galactic scene. Yet they still are relegated to just three models. Sure they can pull from a number of other books, but in order to really make them a faction they need their own book. Now I still think the best way to do this is to slowly fold the other Eldar lines into the Ynnari. However even if GW choses not to do this, they still will need to come out with an standalone Ynnari book. Whether this book will just have a bunch of reprinted datesheets from other Codecies, or be totally new remains to be seen. A Codex with a ton of new hybrid units would be pretty cool.

Codex T’au Auxiliary

The T’au Empire is supposed to have a ton of client and allied races that fight with them. While the fluff talks about races like the Kroot, Vespid, Nicassar, Demiurg and even Humans, among others, being part of the Empire, only the Kroot and Vespids have rules. Sadly even the two races that have rules are kind of a joke, with some of the worst units in the game. Now the T’au already have a lot of units, and it’s clear the main T’au book should focus on the T’au themselves, and their awesome battle-suits. So lets get a whole book on the T’au Allies. Give all the allied races a few cool units. Maybe add a few more new races in. Build a true mixed species force and let the design team really play around with making new models. Not only would this create something totally new, but it would help build the T’au as a whole up. Right now any of the factions that only have access to one book are at a disadvantage. Just as Tyranids got Genestealer Cults to ally with, building the T’au up with a 2nd codex will make them a real force to be reckoned with (sorry Necrons & Orks).

The Hrud

 

Lurking in the background of 40K for decades are the mysterious Hrud. The Hrud are a mysterious, nocturnal, tunnel dwelling race often referred to as parasites. They may or may not be 40K’s version of Skaven. Either way, something about Hrud has caught the imagination of many 40K players, leading them to wonder about this race and how they act and fight. If GW wanted to introduce a totally new race, maybe one driven out of their home systems by the Great Rift, the Hrud would be a great race to explore and build on.

The Emperor’s Children

With the introduction of Codex: Death Guard, players of the other Traitor Legions have gained new hope that they too might get a Codex. For me the most interesting one by far would be an Emperor’s Children Codex. Fulgrim’s children seem to be one of the Legions that has deviated most from the norm, having picked up all the crazy sonic weapons and snake bodies a person could want. GW should really give them the Death Guard Treatment, give them 4-8 brand new units and some characters. Heck, we already know what their new tank should look like:

Like this, but pink, maybe some boobs – just on one side…

It really seems that if you just went all out with these guys you could make a very… special army. What can I say, I’m a sucker for pink armies and would like to see more of them!

Plenty of Options

GW has a rich setting to draw from if they want make new books. Certainly I’d like to see more than just x number of new MEQ armies out there. Still another part of me wants to see every major chapter and legion get their own book. In the end we shall just have to wait and see if 2018 will bring us something new and wonderful.

So folks, what new faction would you like to see get it’s first book in 2018? Let us know, down in the comments! 

 

 

 

  • Paul Davies

    It would be great to have new factions but even better if GW could give new plastic models for their existing range. Some factions still rely on older models!

    • Jack

      They need a new Abaddon

      • Paul Davies

        Totally agree, they need to totally phase out all finecast and miniatures over 25 years old!

        • BT

          If you add in metal figs as well that are still in use (ala Abaddon) think about how massive of a undertaking that might actually be to upgrade them all to modern sculps and size.

          I wonder if it has ever occurred to GW that the reason why some units/figs don’t sell well isn’t because of their rules, but because the figs suck so bad that no one wants to play with them (Rough Riders).

          • Fredddy

            Most new releases come with new rules, so you can not really tell. But a new model should never hurt the popularity.

          • Cergorach

            They need to fill the rest of the year, all the Codexi are being frontloaded, with dice and cards. Time to get some new plastic crack!

        • eMtoN

          As much as a I agree with a complete phase out of resin and metal figs, I’d also be happy if they could just get production to catch up with existing demand. There are quite a few things I’ve been trying to get for almost two months to finish off a couple armies.

      • BT

        They need a lot of new stuff. One has to wonder what their production facilities/capabilities are like. Is that holding them back where they can’t make new figs and update old figs at the same time?

      • PrehistoricUF0

        I agree, I have no idea how they haven’t released an updated model, especially with Cadia finally falling and Abaddon finally going somewhere with his Crusade.

      • silashand

        I suspect he will get a new model when the next campaign book and associated triumvirate box set comes out, whenever that may be.

      • vlad78

        hell yeah
        Primaris abaddon !!

    • Killer Bee

      Totally agree, New sisters please. Can’t believe the only female army has miniatures from when I was a teen. The Avatar model needs a new kit too. Gw needs to pump more miniatures out.

    • ZeeLobby

      GW’s new focus will most likely be on smaller new lines of models (ala GSC, Deathwatch, Deathguard, etc). They want people to buy new stuff, not possibly replace old stuff.

      • nope none

        Why not replace old stuff? That old stuff has updated rules. People want it.

        • I would like to buy carnifex models, but can’t. It is holding up any further expansion of my tyranids army, which is literally on hold until I can get them, as I am not building up the rest of the army without them. The only thing they were meant to be doing was putting the new rules in the box, nothing new to the model! 🙁

        • ZeeLobby

          I mean I guess? I know 3 sisters players. 2 of which love their old metal models. Would they buy some of the new stuff if it dropped. Sure, but most likely only the new units. That said, release an arbites army, and I know several people who would instantly buy 2K worth. I mean you just look at their release schedule for the last couple years, and the majority has been new things rather than replacing old.

          I could see them releasing a mini faction, replacing one old unit, and then releasing 6 new ones (thousand sons). I could see them doing like Striking Scorpions and then adding several more scorpion themed new units for a specific sub-faction or something. But I really don’t see them doing a Dark Eldar second coming type release anytime soon for the old stuff. I think Tomb Kings hit them hard (hard enough to basically trash the army and not care about it).

    • Bigalmoney666

      *cough Ork Warboss.

  • Vayle

    what about a faction, like, something imperial…
    hmm, what about something that is similar to the space marines but different, let’s make them something like, the army of the

    Ecclesiarchy, and instead of normal space marines, let’s make them women…

    • Dan Brugman

      clock reset

      • Mr.Gold

        what about short people…

        • Arykaas

          with a tendancy to have beards …

        • Martin B

          Clock reset.

          • vlad78

            Squats don’t need clocks. Give them stilts and they already are Iron Hands space marines. They have a time counter included in their visors.

          • Martin B

            Lol

  • plasticvicar

    Tau Auxilliaries would be a winner from a fluff standpoint. Caught between the tyranny of the Imperium, the horrors of the Great Rift and being eaten by Tyranids, hundreds if not thousands of lesser alien races would be seeking protection from the Tau Empire, signing defence pacts and allowing them access to a significantly greater portion of the galaxy.

    • Koen Diepen Van

      I rather see them fix Tau proper first. Nothin abnout the index list works. support drones are useless There are no viable anti tank weapons. Crisis suit units are pointless. The whole index stinks

      • JPMcMillen

        I could see it as two books. A Tau Codex covering them and their major allies (Kroot). Then a second book for those who want to field some of the smaller allies.

      • Chris Hilliard

        How are Crisis Suits pointless? Air dropping 9 suits with triple burst cannons is the highlight of my week!

        • Koen Diepen Van

          Well that is until you discover that you can also air drop 6 commanders whit 4 burst cannons for about the same points and and deal double the dammage

  • tchuck

    Fallen could be cool. You could have most unit be both chaos and imperium, but have some units only chaos, without imperium, and vis versa. Although they are traitor in Dark Angels’ eyes, not all turned to chaos.

    • orionburn III

      At first I thought a stand alone Fallen army would be really meh, but it has merits. It could make for some interesting mixes like Genestealer Cults being able to run with both Nids and Imperium units.

  • Frank O’Donnell

    The Fallen as 40K needs more marines 🙂

    • vlad78

      Wait you haven’t seen the primaris fallen space marines yet.

  • Fredddy

    I’d like to see some Adeptus Arbrites. Or at least some new IG plastics: the Cadian kit is 10+ years old (came out for the Eye of Terror book), lacking most of the options, and the Catachans were ugly even when they were new 15 years ago.

    • BT

      A new Rough Rider kit would be awesome. But to me that is what is actually holding GW back is that they can’t update old figs and produce new stuff at the same time.

      • Fredddy

        Sure but at this stage Rough Riders could almost be considered as something entirely new:) As for the new figs, no one told them that they can not introduce a new IG regiment in the codex especially now that Cadia is destroyed.

    • JPMcMillen

      Both Cadian and Catachans need to be redone with ALL special weapon options on the sprues. Then maybe start with the other, major, AM armies. Or females. Or both. There are 3rd party companies that offer these which prove there is a market for them. It would just be nice to be able to use them at an actual GW store.

      As for the Arbites, I could see them but I doubt there’s enough variety in their units to really do a full blown codex for themselves. I could see them in a book with other smaller Imperial forces like the Custodes or Sisters of Silence. Hopefully all expanded to give something at all levels (troops, elites, fast, heavy, HQ).

      • Fredddy

        Yes, maybe not a full codex, but 4-5 new units could be easily done: shotgun squad, shield squad, some HQ, bikers and maybe a new vehicle.

        • JPMcMillen

          I was thinking:
          HQ: Leader type with options.
          Elite: Snipers, CQB squad
          Troops: Basic squad
          Fast Attack: Bikes, Cyber-Mastifs with handler
          Heavy: Close range support tank

          • Fredddy

            Maybe an own Rhino/Chimaera/Taurox or even that GSC truck-version

          • JPMcMillen

            That’s what the Repressor was for. I was thinking something more tank, less transport.

            http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Repressor

  • Solotaire Confinement

    I’d like to see another extra galactic force, but different to the Tyranids. Maybe this could explain the origins of the Tau Ethereals how they appeared mysterious and such?

    • Spade McTrowel

      Eldrad can explain this mystery.. 🙂

    • Muninwing

      40k had always toed the line better than most with scale, partly BECAUSE of how unrealistic and insane the extragalactic scale would need to be. Nids get a pass because they are legion, and semi-sentient without a real culture past consumption. space-locusts.

      if the Warp’s connection to the galaxy is predicated upon sentience, then a vast empty gulf millions of light years wide would have no anchoring to the warp, and thus no guaranteed way to cross it. and Tau technology would be less fit to venture across that void…

  • euansmith

    I think that GW could make some quick cash by doing rules for the Sylvaneth for use in 40k as part of the Ynnari or some other Eldar faction.

    • Andy Wise

      Codex Exodites then? Yeah I know it looks like a bow –
      it’s actually a bow shaped gun…

      Seriously though that could be a good kicking off point for a dedicated Ynnari codex as they could be drawn into the wider galaxy through that…

      Yeah – lets do that.

      • euansmith

        Or, it looks like bow, it is a bow; however, its Wytchwood Arrows will phase through your armour and devour your soul 😉 Any casualties caused by Wytchwood Arrows are replaced with Wytchwood Dryads.

        • Spade McTrowel

          Hmmm

          Hrud army made using the Sylvaneth line. Wonder what codex to base it on?

    • I think that a good idea. I’d like more alien factions. thinks not resembling humans as closely would be neat.

    • TheMawr

      Only as demons imho. And not Ynnari nor Exodites.

      With the exception of Drycha who I see as the quintessential Avatar of Isha. (but avatars are demons too)
      Aesthically fitting perfectly with the other Avatars very monstrous/inhuman and elemental;
      Isha, Made up of wood & bugs
      Khaine, Fire and Stone… theoretically.
      Ynnead, Soulstones and an aetheric whirlwind
      Cegorach, made from golden quicksilver.. :p

  • Martin B

    Emperors children would be great, especially with new plastics. I’ve got the old plastic and metal kit sat on my shelf assembled but unpainted. They were nice but they are really showing there she now. Always wanted to build a squad of them to look like slipknot (they always had a suitably chaotic look to them) the guy on the deck could count as a las-cannon and the guy (I think it was the one in the clown mask) on the percussion could have been really unusual to build if it was based on footage of them on stage where he was on top of the kit.

    • Fredddy

      The biggest problem with Slaanesh is that it could not and should not be done kid-friendly. Of course you can alibi with “oh music and drugs are just as fitting”, maybe they are, but the more Slaaneshy stuff are out there the thinner this excuse is for the lack of sexy stuff.

      • BT

        But that is just it, you don’t even have to go that route if you don’t want to. Just by ramping up the sonic weapons combined with 30k-est armor could be enough.

        Think about it, vehicle/dread sonic weapontry kits would be a huge impact alone. Why wouldn’t EC have sonic Preds and Land Raiders? Think about what their version of a sonic Vindicator would look like? Could also do Demonforged sonic variants or even be given a transport flyer (aka Thunderhawk) because they are such slave takers. Heck, say they have a sonic version of Deathstorm/Deathwing Drop Pods that might have Doom Sirens attached to them as terror/subdual weapons. There is a ton of stuff you could do just bit-wise that is added onto existing kits that could be make them a ton of money… just look at Chapter doors as an example of this line of thought. It is a way to update old kits without have to make new kits.

        Then if you want to look list-wise how to make them different, you give them back Apothecaries. Now you are /really/ making them unique from the other traitor list. It makes perfect sense fluff-wise because of the combat drugs and the like. And best of all, you have existing FW models for this and it allows you to create new models in the future. Give them their own version of Primarius Marines thanks to Bile and other Apothecaries who might have studied under him. Think about what their version of Warp Priests might look like and how important they actually are to the EC with the Sonic Tech they are using. Bring back Phoenix Guard Terminators and redo Chosen to be more fitting.

        Give them female cultists ad S/M slaves if you really want to make them sexy, but I don’t think it is even needed. You don’t have to make it sexual at all and it still can be Slaanesh and Emperor’s Children and different and unique.

        • Fredddy

          You could maybe make them sort-of-unique with sound stuff, but it is just one extra option for each entry of a generic CSM list. To call it a full codex you need to cover the entire domain of Slaanesh which is way beyond sound guns.

      • ZeeLobby

        I imagine we’ll see World Eaters well before Slaanesh (if he/she/it ever shows up). Everyone keeps pointing to Slaanesh references in all the books, but no even hint of upcoming support anytime soon. I almost wondering if they’re just hoping people forget.

        • Apocryphus

          I’ve just accepted that GW wants to put Slaanesh away and been buying third party bits and models to make my EC look proper.

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean there’s REALLY no reason for it to have taken this long. I mean if their intention was to build hype, it’s been hyped and is over at this point. Everyone I know whose played Slaanesh plays something else now. Sure they might pick it back up with a new huge release, but nothing GW has put forward has even hinted at something like that down the road. I’d say Sisters is more likely at this point.

          • Apocryphus

            Agreed. It’s really unfortunate, though I’d be equally happy with Sisters. I think the way they treated Slaanesh with AoS was a pretty clear indicator of how GW was going to handle him in the future.

          • Muninwing

            my actual guess is that the new batch of writers just don;t know what to do with Chaos.

            they have a big scary cosmic-level bad, with implications of all sorts of directions to go in… but to do so they need to understand why the Four work in concordance with each other, and that the AoS writers made Khorne primary but let the GHR sneak in shows they understand little to nothing about the balance and opposition that make up the Four… never mind the actual spheres and domains of each one.

            I know there’s stories of some (american) puritanical/religious voices among upper management that have a history of trying to sanitize the products (people who worked under a certain ascended VP refer to his forcing them to call the “hellgun” a “heckgun” and cite his promotion a bit before the redo of the IG that changed the weapon to “hot-shot” instead as a sign of his influence), but there’s actually a ton about Slaanesh that is complicated, and the simplified “nekkid ladies with knives” interpretation definitely needs an update.

            i could write pages and pages about how chaos works as a system. the current batch sure seems to just not know what they want to say about it all.

      • Martin B

        I completely agree, the slipknot squad was something I thought would be fun to make. Slaanesh as you say should quite rightly be about excess in all things, that’s how he/she/it was always portrayed when I was growing up. That’s how it should stay..

        • Muninwing

          all excess…. for some, it’s sex and sensation, for some, it’s pride and vanity. others might indulge in food, drink, drugs, or other extremes. others would want to dive too far into self-expression, or music, or extremes of relationships. Casanova (the real one, who probably slept with his own daughter and was excommunicated for seducing a nun, showing he had no boundaries nor limits) would be a great example… but so would performance artists who abused their physical bodies to make a statement, political leaders whose nationalism and extreme views cause horrible tragic events, or cult leaders who bask in the adoration of their followers.

          People like to look to de Sade as a good example of a Slaanesh-influenced famous person (or, again Casanova)… but Jeffrey Dahmer, Jim Jones, Pol Pot, and Gordon Gekko (or Jordan Belfort, who he’s based on), or some nameless local serial stalker who makes local headlines all caused huge damage to others due to their immersion in their own excesses and extremes.

          Slaanesh is perhaps the most complicated of the Four… taking up most of the seven deadly sins. anyone who thinks that Slaanesh is just sex and drugs doesn’t have a good imagination, or a sense of history, or an idea of what “love” and all its affiliated extremes can really sink to.

  • BrianDavion

    You forget the obvious. Adeptus Custodes. as a full fledged faction. we know that HQ is coming

    • BT

      Now that they are including more and more FW stuff, there is also stuff like Eldar Corsairs and Death Krops.

    • Balor

      I think that FW has done more stuff GW prime has a lower chance of doing a major release for them. I to would like to see them done by GW prime.

  • Bootneck

    Squats!

  • Coltcabunny

    Rak’Gol. That is all.

    • Muninwing

      Rak’Gol are awesome, and would be a lot of fun to include… but would be an incredibly low-option low-count army that would not really play well on the current scale.

      if they want the game to be more skirmish, then they should create better skirmish-level rules (maybe convert the system to d10 to facilitate this?), and then include Rak’Gol as antagonists.

      or maybe if they focused more on narrative games and campaigns, a mission where a small chunk of each army faced off against a group of Rak’Gol would be a fun interlude.

      but as a whole force, it might not be doable. especially not with the current horde-forward rules.

  • J Mad

    I’m guessing the Hrud might be a real thing only b.c of its fluff (they really want to kill of slaneesh) and they might even work with Ynnari to do it.

    Players been asking for and wondering about 40k Skavin for a long time anyways, this is the perfect chance for it.

  • Alexis Muscat

    Ok even if my dreaming side wants an Emperor’s Children codex , it won’t be a thing. Because they already have rules from the CSM codex and the next Daemon Primarh will surely be Angron .. so the World Eaters are surely the next in libe.

    • Fredddy

      A WE codex could be cool if it is not just about a bunch of angry guys called Bloodgore Goreblood and names like this but if they bring back the old Khorne fluff of Khorne being the god of war machines too- there is a lot of potential in the daemon engine theme, we saw that in DG codex.

      • Spade McTrowel

        Totally read that as Wood Elf codex.

        Totally blew my mind. 🙂

  • Sonic tooth

    i wish they’d release sisters just so i could stop reading the constant moaning about them in every post

  • I know a bunch of Ork players might say they want the clans again, even as a subfaction from the codex but I hope they’re int he codex.
    The fallen could be interesting but I doubt they need a codex, I don’t see that doing them justice. Unless it includes both Luther and the Lion. I’d be on board if they are in and have models.

    • orionburn III

      For all the talk about GW doing another Triumvirate that featured the Lion it would make total sense to see a Luther figure included in that set.

      • I hope they would. I think I read that for 30K there had no plans for Luther to gt a model. I’m working on my First legion now and had hoped to be able to divide my forced between all the factions that had separate loyalties within the first Legion. I’m shooting for, good guys or bad guys in both 30K and 40K ideally. I’d really hope that along side new modes would be a nice plot line with a few twists. Maybe?

        • Muninwing

          it makes little sense for FW do do a model of that dude who rode the bench and got mad about it… seriously, he’s only effectively in one battle, adn it’s after he betrays the Lion after Horus is defeated.

    • Aurion Shidhe

      I would love to have models for the different clans. I’m still playing with some of the old metals just because they are distinct.

    • Aurion Shidhe

      I would love to have models for the different clans. I’m still playing with some of the old metals just because they are distinct.

  • Balor

    Hmmm GW’s plan is most likely Primaris, Sigmarine, Primaris, Primaris, Sigmarine. They seem to have a pattern right now.

    • Stormwolf

      You forgot to mention Primaris

      • Carney3

        But I don’t LOIKE Primaris!

        • Stormwolf

          Then they will force feed you for the whole year with Primaris until you finally LOIKE them. “Primaris Aut Mortis” – buy primaris or die! No forgiveness, no pity, no remorse!

    • Aurion Shidhe

      What about “Primaris, Egg, Sausage and Primaris”?

      • Carney3

        Except they’re all out of Egg and Sausage and replaced them with Primaris, so you have Primaris, Primaris, Primaris, and Primaris.

        Lovely Primaris, Wonderful Primaris (Primaris Primaris Primaris Primaris)!

  • Kabal1te

    I have a feeling tau will see new models again, probably that one psychic race they are allied to in the fluff whose name escapes me at the moment. tau need smite spam too after all. That said for new armies Slann would be interesting.

    • Chris Hilliard

      Niscar? They tend to stay on their ships, and the T’au intentionally hide them from the Imperium.

  • eMtoN

    I want to see Vect and the rest of the Drukhari special characters in 2018.

    • Stormwolf

      It is more probable they kill Vect in the new fluff than they will make a Vect/Dais model

      • eMtoN

        Sadly, I think you’re right.

        • Stormwolf

          The only thing that prevents them from killing Vect is that they would have to make a Lady Malys model to replace him. But they don’t want to do any new DE model and that’s why Vect stays alive.

          • Kabal1te

            Sadly I think you are right.

          • Muninwing

            why do you think they don’t want to do any more DE models?

          • Stormwolf

            Because they are a niche army. Eldar are the more popular one, and even they don’t sell half as well as marines. GW invests most of it’s money on Marines or on new specialist games, because they expect highest income there, not in Commoragh.

          • Muninwing

            i played them in 3rd, and i still would have agreed that they were a niche army then…. but they’ve had a whole retooling and a complete makeerreaction

          • Stormwolf

            The remaking of DE line was one of the greatest modeling successes in GW history. DE became one of the most beautiful sculpted army ever. But GW saw that this new line still doesn’t sell as good as they would like to, DE are still a niche army. And therefeore they will never make such a “mistake” again.

          • Muninwing

            it’s sad that they’re so myopic.

            one of the biggest complaints is that when the sales team gets more of a say than the creative team, imbalances happen.

            meaning that it’s not good models, but usefulness (exploitative or no) in the game that sells units.

            so releasing beautiful models with crap rules does not create sales the way they want, based on their own used strategies.

            so… why release gorgeous models with bad rules?

            and why blame another “niche” army, like SoB, for lack of sales, instead of creating a product that will sell… for whatever reason? i’m not saying cheez them out, but maybe put them on the same power level as SM?

            when ET killed WHF and they tried to justify the rushed implementation of AoS, the constant excuse heard was “well, older players don’t buy anything anymore.” solid blame on the consumer, not on the producer who is supposed to woo the consumer. it’s become a pattern with GW, and it’s one of the off-putting things about the company.

  • tau4eva

    +1 for Tau allied book

  • Defenestratus

    If GW “folds” the Eldar factions into the idiotic ynnari, then my almost 30 year old collection, not just Eldar, is mothballed, permanently (as opposed to semi permanently which it is now). In addition to losing its gaming appeal (thanks 8th) it will have lost its fluff appeal to me as well.

    The Ynnari just don’t make sense from an Eldar fluff perspective. Let’s start an Eldar death cult…. but wait, I thought every Eldar life was more precious than a million human lives and must always be preserved!!!

    The followers of Asuryan will always be around, and the effort to homogenize the Eldar race into a silly faction will thankfully never happen.

    • Stormwolf

      I would prefer Exodites than Ynnari but GW prefers to make Ynnari.

      • Muninwing

        i would prefer that the Ynnari is the new way to change and unify the Eldar, including the Exodites. and that there’s plenty of room for expansion into a complete and varied army choice. but that’s just me.

    • Stormwolf

      I would prefer Exodites than Ynnari but GW prefers to make Ynnari.

  • marxlives

    Blood Ravens Codex, they already have a strong presence among randos because of the games, Games also did a good job fleshing them out. Also, Blood Ravens vs Thousand Sons would be pretty epic. I might even play 40k again to make that happen.

  • vash113

    I’d like to see Arbites, and an expansion of the Talons of the Emperor and Ynnari.

    • Muninwing

      i’d love to see Arbites and the other mini-factions of the Imperium consolidated into a coherent playable list…

  • PrehistoricUF0

    I’ve been waiting ages for a dedicated T’au merc/alien line of models. Personally, I’ve always hoped that the Kroot would be developed big time, but even if GW released a ‘T’au Alien Mercenaries’ line composed of a big mix of stuff that’d be fine with me.

    Despite not even being a Dark Angel player, I’ve always wanted to see the Cypher/Fallen story developed. Aggravates me that we never get closure on Cypher’s story, it’s always open-ended to the point of being annoying.

  • Talos2

    Squats, sisters, bretonians, And tomb kings obviously

  • Carney3

    I would want the Necrons to be de-mystified and de-Egyptianized and turned into a straightforward Saberhagen Beserker / Terminator Skynet style pure machine AI enemy that is hostile to all life.

    The backstory could be rectonned into something like this.

    The Orks are a genetically engineered soldier race, made inherently ungovernable in order to prevent their being “turned”. In response, the enemies of the Orks’ creators come up with the Tyranids – the ultimate biological weapon. In response to THAT, either the Orks’ creators or somebody else has to make the Necrons / Berserkers and program them to destroy all life because of the genetic diversity and adaptability of the Tyranids would otherwise enable the Tyranids to evade the Necrons’ definition of enemy life.

    • Mr.Gold

      they had so much better fluff before Ward came along…

      • Muninwing

        everything that Ward touched was better off before him. rules just as much as fluff. the game was much better balanced before his ascendence as well.

    • Muninwing

      that’s a biiiig retcon. i doubt they will do that.

      i don’t dislike the idea of the now-mindless ancient cyborg/robot menace. I don’t dislike the personification and egyptification of their leaders. i just think there needs to be a greater distance between them…

      like, maybe one in ten thousand still has memories of the past and a sense of purpose past mindless killing, and if one of those isn’t the commander they are still a formidable force of mindless destruction.

      maybe an alternate idea of what the “court” is, or a corrupt berserker protocol kind of thing as a malfunction over the millions of years that they have sat dormant, or perhaps just less focus on the SCs and the named individuals in the egyptified version, and instead a look at the real threat of an isolated tomb world waking up and unleashing terrifying inhuman killing machines across the whole planet.

      then again, they really need to bring back Pariahs, and include better Fear rules that actually affect everyone (even Space Marines, though perhaps at lower strength).

  • Carey_Mahoney

    Exodites!

    How could they possibly forget those on that list?

    • eMtoN

      For people asking about exodites – I just don’t understand it. Aren’t they basically the “hippy love fest“ aeldari? To my knowledge they don’t attack anyone. Sure I remember a battle were exodites teamed up while flying dragons or something like it to protect themselves but that’s quite a bit different from being an aggressor.

      I guess I’m just asking: what would the army be like?

      • Spade McTrowel

        Craftworld Eldar = High Elves.
        Dark Eldar = Dark Elves
        Exodites = Wood Elves

        The exodites are the boy-you-stepped-into-the-wrong-neighborhood-now type of elves. Ignores you if you’re ‘over there’, but will savage you if you come to their home uninvited.

        As for playstyle, I imagine they to be very hit-and-run with built in shoot-and-fade mechanics coupled with terrain manipulation and a couple of monsters on tap. Dinos rather than tree people and eagles.

      • Carey_Mahoney

        It would be epic. Sci-fi elven dino riders? Sounds basically unfailable to me!

        • Muninwing

          if they are going to stick with the Ynnari idea, they need to consolidate the Eldar. that means cutting up the current division
          (Craftworlds, Dark, Harlequins, [exodites], and [corsairs])
          into a different model… maybe going with unified and outsider?

          the best approach to Eldar i’ve heard anyone float is a reunification… that the Craftworlds have a great convocation, including factions from Commoragh, and due to the influence of the Ynnari decide to try to rebuild a second Eldar Empire. they choose a series of planets outside of Imperial reach, terraform the planets, land/crash a Craftworld onto the first one to use as a base… then they drop off new settlers, and the remaining Craftworlds go seeking to convince Exodites to relocate to these new planets. the new factions become
          – Insiders (Ynnari, some DE, Eldar, Harlequins, Exodites) and
          – Outsiders (Harlequins, some DE, Exodites, Corsairs)

  • Chris Hateley

    Squats.

  • Elijah Herstal

    New factions? No, please. I’d rather the codexes be finished and get updated models in plastic, rather than ‘finecast’ that breaks into pieces of you scowl at it hard enough.

  • Jared Jeanquart

    Kroot Mercs. Gimmie back my Kroot Mercs.

    Kroot HQ, Kroot Psyker, regular kroot, ambush kroot, sniper kroot, kroot on runner-beasts, kroot on Allosaurs, Kroot on a T-Rex with a gun, hounds, krootox with weapon options.

    Maybe some kind of open-topped skimmer transport cribbed from the Tau. Maybe also an armored airship. Or steal even more from the Gungans with support units like a shield generator mounted on a big ox beastie.