Geekery: Bright Sequel Has Been Green-Lit

We’re getting more orcs, elves, Will Smith, Joel Edgerton… and maybe the centaur cop. Maybe.

Bright has been pretty divisive. Critics hate it, but audience feedback doesn’t quite agree with them. It’s become one of those movies that has caused seemingly endless debates on social media.

I think it’s good for what it is: a movie made for a streaming service. If it was a theater release I don’t think I would feel the same about it. The script has some problems, and it has a habit of beating its audience over the head with concepts that don’t really need to be explained at all. There is some decent universe building, though – I’d like to see more stories there.

It did well for Netflix – 11 million views in its opening weekend, which would equate roughly to a $100 million in box office sales if it were released in theaters. It’s a no brainer to make another one.

Netflix didn’t take themselves too seriously when they confirmed that part two is on the way…

Yeah, they went there.

Will Smith and Joel Edgerton have both signed on to reprise their roles as LAPD police offers Daryl Ward and Nick Jakoby.

Screenwriter Max Landis is not returning, however. David Ayer will be writing and directing the second installment. He wrote the script for Training Day that helped Denzel Washington win an Oscar, and created one of the most memorable villains on film. My hopes are high that we’ll get a less heavy handed script this go around.

 

What did you think of it? Are you excited for a sequel?

  • EnTyme

    Bright had some problems, but it was a pretty original concept with “mostly” good execution. Looking forward to the sequel.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      It’s basically Alien Nation but with Fantasy races rather than aliens. Urban Arcana is not wildly popular in literature but it exists.

    • GWELLS

      Yeah I actually didn’t mind it as I think this world can really work as a franchise if better written and planned out

      But there is no defending that this film didn’t have some script and story structure problems. Especially in regards to the blatant racist parallels (ok we get it, orcs are the oppressed minority who don’t deserve it, so are all human ethic and racial groups equal in this world then? Are Elves universally better off than everybody else? And why are they so powerfull in the first place?). And I have to admit the pacing of the film was little all over the place as well, you tube reviewers on line can explain better than me.

      The new screenwriter I have great respect for and look forward to how he moves forward with it because I really feel this world has a lot of potential for a franchise, heck maybe theres a Zoo with a Dragon in it 🙂

      • BaronSnakPak

        They say in the movie that the Orks sided with the Dark Lord, thousands of years ago, and ever since then their race can’t be trusted.

        • GWELLS

          Yes I know, I am talking about the humans and there relationship with eachother (Blacks and Hispanics for instance) and how the heiarchy works and how it formed (like why are Elves so rich for instance).

          And the racist subtext of the film was too heavy-handed in its presentation, we didn’t need to be beat over the head with parallels so many times to figure it out. David Ayer is a masterclass writer with this subject and I feel they picked the right guy.

      • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

        “so are all human ethic and racial groups equal in this world then?”

        The movie did address this (fairly clearly, at least IMO). The first scene with Rodriguez (Ward’s sheriff buddy) references that, and there are a few inferences to be drawn elsewhere in the movie.

        Still, I feel like you might be falling into the trap of considering things left to reasonable inference as problems. Would the movie really be improved if, say, it heavy-handedly hammered home that all Elves universally are/aren’t better off?

        • GWELLS

          Yes I know, i am listing general questions people have brought up regarding the film.

          Also I don’t think so, if the movie goes out of its way to drive home the point relating to Orks being an oppressed class then it should at least better explain the rest of the world as well.

          And no I don’t think that inferences is enough, this movie was obviously made with intention of a sequel or some kind of follow-up and a movie should work on its own merits to carry the plot (that is the danger of falling into the Marvel trap were a movie merely exists to set up a future film, except this one wasn’t necessarily guaranteed to get a follow-up).

          And aspects of the world are murky if you start to think about it and honestly it would probably would have worked smoother if it downplayed the racial aspect a bit and focused more on the action aspect, as lets be honest this is just an action film with societal-satire tacked-on not vice-versa.

          Nevertheless that aside I actually did enjoy the film and think the world has potiential, I just hope for improvement in the follow-up with someone better qualified to balance the action and societal-satire.

          • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

            “Yes I know, i am listing general questions people have brought up regarding the film.”

            If you already knew that the film did address “so are all human ethic and racial groups equal in this world then?”, then why did you think that question was worth listing?

          • GWELLS

            All I said is that I noticed the line not that I thought it answered the question. It doesn’t answer enough, so are all humans above orks? Are they just somewhat disliked because of the Alamo or are they actively oppressed and mistreated like the orks, because the film didn’t imply that at all. Is there a Black Lives Matter in this world because of that Fairie throwaway, or are their better relations with police because that resentment is directed towards Orks. The fact that many were confused on the messege drives home the point that it didn’t properly convey its message except as a very broad satire on racial prejudice.

            Besides that Alamo throwaway in the end proves nothing really, what was the Alamo in this world? Was it the same? Are we just supposed to assume everything happened exactly the same way unless stated otherwise. That isn’t subtlety, its just lazy writing. And you need to think about stuff like that when doing societal satire, thats writing 101.

            You have to just not overthink it too best enjoy this film.

          • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

            I’m not sure if going deeper into your rabbithole will benefit either of us – Bright establishes its setting such that it can build a coherent, contained, story, it’s not a world-building bible. It seems like to satisfy your criteria it would either need to provide an exhaustive racial hierarchy and history of the setting, or excise those themes entirely – which would fatally bloat or gut the movie, respectively.

            It has enough faith in its audience that, say, if it references the Alamo to establish racial tension among humans, that the audience will understand that the Battle of the Alamo holds similar cultural cache in this setting as it does today.

            And yes, Urban Fantasy does hinge on the audience assuming that the “normal” details of the world are generally unchanged unless otherwise stated.

          • GWELLS

            A more effective writer would have been able to explain the world better without bloating it, world-building has been done before in other movies much better.

            And well look, regardless if i’m maybe being too picky and your perhaps willingly overlooking writing flaws is besides the point.

            The movie is quasi buddy-cop action flick with Will smith, so regardless it was good fun too watch and we both clearly enjoyed the film and will be waiting for the sequel. We can at least agree on that.

      • af

        If you think about it, your perfectly valid questions all come from the fact there’s practically NO world-building AT ALL in this movie. Which is strange, if they were planning on building a franchise. Why not put at least a little more detail in this world, and show us a bit more about how it differs from ours? Why not a little more flavour?

        If you have to describe Bright’s world, all you can say is “there are Orcs and Elves in a modern setting, and some Elf chicks are evil”. Absolutely no more detail. Yawn.

        • GWELLS

          More or less. The problem with this film is that the writers basically just said “hey lets throw fantasy races into a modern setting” with no real idea how its going to work down the line or if it even makes sense. The idea was obviously if they threw in enough action people wouldn’t think about it too much, and fantasy fans would just go with it because, well, orks and elves what else could they want, and everyone else can marvel at the racial undertones of it all.

          The writer alleges that he wrote whole pages of backstory of the world but I am seeing zero of that on screen, and honestly it makes less sense on repeat viewings when all the spectacle wears off.

          And all this I could forgive if the film didn’t try to take itself seriously (ala a goofy comedy film like Galaxy Quest) but it insisted on going for “realism” thus I can’t forgive that. I only hope for improvement in the next installment because I do believe this concept has merit, but they need to get away from corny racial allegories and lean more into action and adventure or improve in handling the former.

          • af

            > I only hope for improvement in the next installment

            You’re more optimistic than I am 🙂

  • ectoplasmic gyrator

    of hell yeahhh

  • BaronSnakPak

    I liked it. My brother and I were talking about how cool it would be if they turned it into a series, so you could see a lot more of the world and characters.

    • I’m hoping for the same. Use the two movies with the big names to introduce the universe, then do a spin off series with new faces.

      • BaronSnakPak

        Then they can do a Stranger Things crossover where the Mind Flayer and Dark Lord are buddy cops in the 80’s, hunting down kids with a magic DnD book.

        • I’d watch that if you throw in a soundtrack by Jan Hammer. That would be rad.

        • Jonathon Runge

          There is a role playing game about FBI agents taking down DnD cults who use spell books and special dice to cast magic. It has a resource mechanic. Agents can bring as much armament as they want but thee are penalties on following missions based on collateral damage. Beware the Arch Warlock Gygax. He has the First D20 recovered from the ruins of a lost civilization by Nazi scientists.

    • Severius_Tolluck

      I felt the movie was the pilot for a series, which would then focus on the lesser actors and characters like the Elf girl, etc. Which would then follow more up on the prophecy and the ark lord fluff.

  • ZeeLobby

    Pretty cool concept, still kind of sad we lost Always Sunny for it though :(.

    • Severius_Tolluck

      Let’s be honest though, Always Sunny ran its long course. I think it was ok to let it fade. Besides, Always Sunny is now Disney…..

      • ZeeLobby

        Haha. True. But it had great re-watchability. I’ll rewatch it way more than I’ll rewatch Bright…

        • Severius_Tolluck

          Well again, one time movie, now if they were able to use this as a pilot to do a quality show with good banter like the cops had, well then I might give it a whirl. However, Kitten Mittens, or The Gang Get’s Action jacksoned are personal faves of mine.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha, classic episodes. There’s honestly too many that I love. I could get behind a better done Bright series though. A big part of the reason i netflix though is to rewatch TV shows (lets be honest, their movie selection rarely wows), so I hope their internally developed stuff really wows otherwise they’ll serve no purpose anymore for me, haha.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Truth, once they lost the contract with starz their movie selection dropped off the map. They lost so many IPS I was starting to think they would bite the bullet, then they started producing their own stuff.. and low and behold business is booming for streaming services for nearly all major companies with skin in the game. Disney is even building their own platform. Getting tough to choose which channels to adopt though, as its getting crazier then cable used to be. But I digress.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah, my issue is that it’s turning back into cable providers again, and the inability to purchase alacart from multiple. I can either subscribe to all, and watch the several good shows i like from each, or I pick one, miss out and/or pirate.

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    Hopefully they will work on some world building and explain how the world of Bright looks and feels exactly like our Earth but with Elves, Orcs and Magic… Who have been moving and shaking the world for at least 2,000 years.

  • Jared Swenson

    Thank goodness! Look, it wasn’t a perfect movie, but it was creative, and I appreciated that most of all. I really enjoyed watching it the first time, then I watched it the second time. While I noticed all the flaws more the second time, I also liked it even better. They set up a cool world that I would like to see explored here. In a world where we get rehashes and reboots, this is some refreshing stuff to see.

  • Jared Swenson

    Haha that Shadowrun joke is perfect!

    • af

      I guess the joke was that, after much fan speculation, Bright was nothing at all like Shadowrun 🙂

  • Bright was a technically proficient movie that was terribly written and kinda awkwardly shot, if they kept the universe and handed it off to a better director I think a sequel could be enjoyable

    • af

      “Technically proficient” is not enought for me anymore 🙁 In an age where CGI is commonplace, and effects are by default awesome, crappy movies are still crappy. And make no mistake: Bright is crap.

  • Aurion Shidhe

    Needs more cyberware. And credsticks. Lots of credsticks.

  • af

    Bright was a terrible, terrible movie. I guess some critics disliked it because the whole cops, orcs & elves conceit is pretty low-brow, but that’s NOT my problem. I was kinda expecting a trashy but enjoyable movie. Maybe a Shadowrun rip-off, which would have been fine with me.

    Except Bright turned out not to be a trashy but enjoyable movie. It’s mostly by the numbers, uninspired, has forgettable cookie-cutter characters, a half-hearted attempt at making a comment on racism (would have loved if the movie had actually gone this way), boring action, and a completely lackluster villain. Look, you can’t have a fantasy/sci-fi action flick without a villain. This shouldn’t be news to Netflix.

    I had to make an effort to finish watching the damn movie.

    Except, of course, I’m wrong as always and Netflix is right. They’ve ran their numbers and apparently decided the movie was enough of a success to commission a sequel. Money don’t lie.