Geekery: The Secrets of ‘The Last Jedi’

The LucasArts Story Group – the keepers of Star Wars canon – talks about the secrets of The Last Jedi.

This is worth taking the time to watch – even if you thought it was the worst Star Wars movie ever. It’s rare to get a chance to listen to the knowledge base in this video talk for 30 minutes. The Story Group – aka the Jedi Council – is in charge of keeping a single cohesive continuity for the entire franchise.

They talk about easter eggs, cameos, how the movie ties in with other aspects of the universe, and more. Take a look…

One of my favorite take aways: how Luke’s compass in the movie ties in to Battlefront II, and the fact that it was a last minute addition from the Story Group and the executive producer of Star Wars Rebels. Small things that show care for the universe, and the want to give fans something a little extra they can smile about.

What’s your favorite trivia from this Jedi roundtable?

  • ZeeLobby

    I enjoyed it. Had a lot of disjointed action at least. This video is the best breakdown of the movie so far:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v2PV52WNLY

  • sniperjack

    What canon? They kicked the EU in the trash bin. So they just started the new movies, without any danger getting in conflict with canon.
    And sorry, this movies was aweful in many aspects.

    • The New Canon spans dozens of books already, well over a hundred comic issues across a dozen series, and… one awful video game.

  • EnTyme

    I feel like this movie got a lot of unnecessary hate from people who had certain expectations about how some questions were going to be answered, and when the answer was different (or in some cases, not answered at all), they took it personally. There were definitely some . . . odd . . . choices in TLJ, but I personally liked it. I’d put it somewhere between A New Hope and The Force Awakens when ranking the series.

    • 9breaker

      I would agree that a big part of the hatred was the pay-off for expectations. However, I would say that the expectation was set up by previous media (movie, novels, comics, etc). Even JJ Abrams alluded to the mystery box when he explained his process for Episode 7. All the little easter eggs dropped everywhere was what kept the conversation going well after the release of Ep.7.

      I wouldn’t blame the audience for expecting more, but rather the writers for not delivering in a (subjectively) satisfying manner. Unfortunately I did not enjoy the movie. It left off with characters I felt no connection to, and a plot I had no desire to see resolved. In my mind, I’ve seen the end to the Skywalker saga, and this is where I get off the SW bus.

      • EnTyme

        Fair enough. I would advise you to keep in mind, though, that this is only the second movie of a trilogy, and many of those questions may be answered in the finale. I also don’t know that Kylo is the most trustworthy source on Rey’s parentage. It’s not like he wouldn’t have something to gain by lying in that situation. In either case, I appreciated the movie subverting my expectations in multiple instances. It was definitely a risk, and they had to know it wouldn’t be appreciated by everyone.

  • Harry_Jamieson

    Bit late for the canon group to get involved. They should’ve been driving the storyline through the new trilogy rather than letting each writer / director come up with their own story with no responsibility to either pass on where the story was going (as in JJ’s case) or pick up the hanging loose threads (as in TLJ).

    And it’s canon, not cannon.

    • EnTyme

      LucasFilm actually has an employee whose title is literally Keeper of the Holocrons whose sole job is to ensure every movie, novel, comic, videogame, etc. that is released fits into established canon before it’s published. Nothing can be released to the public without his approval. If memory serves, he was originally appointed by George Lucas. As much as some may wish to deny it, nothing coming from LucasFilm can defy canon.

      • Kathleen Kennedy created the Story Group in 2012 when Disney bought LucasArts. There are currently 11 members… and they do exactly what you’re talking about.

        Members have even worked on non-canon projects to make sure they’re in continuity.

      • But they defied long established canon in Episode 7 and Rogue one. So it seems they change it whenever they see fit.

        • EnTyme

          Admittedly, a large portion of the canon was removed after Disney purchased the rights (most of the EU). Most of it, though, was only known by the most avid SW fans, and it was often contradictory. Much of it was re-established, though, in more recent tie-in novels. Out of curiosity, what did you see in Ep. 7 and Rogue One that broke canon?

          • Most glaring example was Hyperspace drive working extremely close to planets. As in: In atmosphere.
            The EU always made a big thing about how being close to a strong gravity well would prevent hyperdrive from working (which is why Interdictors were a thing)

          • EnTyme

            As far as I know, though, it was only established in A New Hope that the hyperdrive couldn’t be activated while inside a planet or star’s gravity well, and getting too close to one could potentially tell the ship apart. Also, Han did say in TFA that it was a really bad idea to make the approach at lightspeed.

      • And it’s failed. Hidalgo and co don’t care as much about, and I quote, “canon, urgh” as you may think.
        The TFA novelization is invalid in places because of Rian Johnson’s work on TLJ, the Storms of Crait comic released before Christmas is inconsistent with the Leia: Princess of Alderaan novel, and more.

        The whole Story Group thing was a great idea, they just haven’t followed through to the degree they needed to. There’s so much stuff that is just dangling in the open now because of the movies making no attempt to actually tie into the wider canon in any sensible way.

  • Drpx

    Show don’t tell.

    • This. I hate the “oh you have to read the books, there it is all explained”- approach they went for with these movies.

      • Problem is, outside of the First Order and this-is-why-Phasma-is-cool, the novels haven’t really touched the Sequel Trilogy at all. The vast majority of them are OT-related. Even the “Journey to Star Wars VII/VIII” books barely relate to the movies, introducing cool characters that either don’t appear at all or are very far removed from what the novels showed them as (like Holdo).

        There’s simply no clear creative vision whatsoever as far as the movies are concerned. Heck, the TFA novelization already got invalidated by having Rey and Poe’s meeting happen in a different context in TLJ, instead of in TFA. There is no clear idea for what they want to do with this trilogy outside of burning it all down to clear the slate for more Disneyfied stuff.

  • I disliked the film though it did have some entertaining moments. I don’t think I ever really had an expectations for this new trilogy and so far it feels very disjointed both from the previous movies and from each other (The Force Awakens & The Last Jedi).

    I’d have preferred TFA wasn’t just a re-hashing and if TLJ didn’t spend the whole time insisting it wasn’t gunna be like the other Star Wars movies. So far I get the feeling that they haven’t really nailed down whats happening over the story arc of the trilogy.

  • Arthfael

    It is far from a perfect Star Wars movie, I think we can all agree on that. Full of inconsistencies, plot holes, etc… But I liked its attempt at being original after the remake that was The Force Awakens. I liked how characters developed. I liked that Snoke got fleshed out – even though we still don’t know where the hell he came from. I like that Rey has no prestigious parentage. I like that the movie challenged the maverick myth and showed the true value of sacrifice, and reminded us of what Jedi were always meant to be. Remember that Luke wins in RotJ by choosing not to fight at the crucial moment. This is the whole concept of the series – when to fight, how to fight, when to look for alternatives. The Prequel trilogy forgot that, and although this is probably unintentional, one may argue that it is because the Jedi forgot that that they lost (in fact, the Clone Wars series does allude to this in one of its last episodes).

  • Agent OfBolas

    I really liked Last Jedi. 3 trips to the cinema so far and I’m hungry for another one.

    Is Last Jedi totally different from the oryginal SW movies? Yes it is.
    Does thinking that new movies can be like the one made 40 years ago is a bit dumb? Yes it is.

  • Tshiva keln

    Always loved star wars but this wasn’t just a bad star wars movie, it was a bad movie, plain and simple. As a group of geeky fanboys we watch the midnight viewing and there has always been some excitement afterwards, discussion of good bits and arguing about bits one of us liked but another didn’t. Not with this one. First time every one of us left in a state of shocked disappointment without a good word to say. Honestly thought one guy was going to cry as it had just killed star wars for him. I personally liked one scene and anyone has to admit it is visually stunning in places but every thing that makes a good movie failed on this. Poor acting, horrendous script both for story and actual lines. Bad pacing, disjointed, too many unnecessary scenes that added nothing, and worse yet, actually boring.