Next Week’s Malign Portents Products & Prices CONFIRMED

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A long last, Malign Portents and the Legions of Nagash arrive this weekend. Get your wallet ready!

Here’s what’s headed your way this weekend according to numerous industry professionals:

Age of Sigmar

After a lengthy tease – the big Age of Sigmar release – Malign Portents arrives. We get the main book, 4 main characters, and the all new Nagash Battletome. We’ve been all 40K all the time for 8 months, so it’s about time GW swings back to the Mortal Realms.

Battletome: Legions of Nagash $40

Malign Portents Rulebook  $25

Malign Portents Cards  $15

Malign Portents Dice  $20

Malign Portents Combat Gauge  $10

Darkoath Warqueen $35

 

Moonclan Snazzgar Stinkmullet $35

Keldrek, Knight of Shrouds $35

Lord-Ordinator Vorrus Starstrike $35

WOW – Look who’s coming back out of retirement! The old Warhammer Fantasy Skullvane Manse!

 

Warscryer Citadel $110

~ I can’t wait to see what Grand Alliance Death is going to get. they’ve been waiting long enough!

  • I was hoping the characters would be.. less expensive. Especially considering they do vary in bulk.

    • BrassWitch

      It really is a shame they’re the $35 ones. I was going to get the knight of shrouds at once, but at that price I’ll pass.

      • Killer Bee

        $55 in Australia… I hope they release warhammer quest hero cards for them.

        • Was hoping for the same. Fingers crossed.

        • BrassWitch

          Blame the goverment, that’s what I do. In my country we end up paying double the price on all miniatures.

          It’s very likely they’ll get stuff for the AoS boardgames on a WhiteDwarf eventually.

      • Matthew Pomeroy

        woulda got 3 of the 4, but not at $35

    • orionburn III

      It isn’t simply about how much plastic goes into each kit. There’s a lot of costs involved. Not happy about the prices either, but $35 has become the norm for character models.

      • eMtoN

        I would hope most people would understand by now that when dealing with retail pricing cost plays only a very minor role. Pricing is based on what people will pay for it at a volume to make it profitable. They could sell these at $4/each if they really wanted to.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Plastic Molds cost a ton of money. Unlike other units, most armies only need 1 (or no) characters. So there are high production costs coupled with the expectation for low sales, so the price is massive.

  • Any one know how much the characters will be in £?

    • autonoise

      I think $35 is usually £22.50

      • calming rain

        nah. 20

        • autonoise

          Fair do’s I was basing it off the Primaris HQ prices, but AoS recent releases may be slightly different

  • disqus_HUXMdKxsPG

    Wtf with prices

  • Rainthezangoose

    If the Darkoath Warqueen gets Warhammer Quest profile that will mean we will have THREE WHOLE female characters for Warhammer Quest.

    #muchprogressive

    • frankelee

      #sodiversity

    • Jasko

      #atleastnoboobarmour

  • Mathew G. Smith

    Aww, was hoping for Death cards.

  • Sir Postalot

    Got to love that 35 euro for a single grot

    • Sergio Muñoz

      They will cost 25€…

  • Erick Earle

    Seriously? Honest talk time. I don’t care about the, “If you don’t like it, don’t play it,”, but we have to open our eyes at this. I recently painted a Mawcrusha that’s $110USD and an Arachnarok that was $58USD. While the Mawcrusha was bigger, it didn’t have as much detail. That comparative size in no way compensates for a $52USD price hike. Now, you mean to tell me that these individual characters are worth $35USD? A higher price than a Doomwheel? Higher than the great and big Scraplauncha?The same price as 3 amazingly detailed flying Tzangors? Even 20 clanrats which don’t look bad? I would say that it sounds like time for me to find another hobby, but other companies aren’t doing…this.

    • Well… if the price is too high then that would mean they sell very few of them and will adjust. Otherwise if they sell what they wanted to sell of them, the price will continue to be what it is.

    • benvoliothefirst

      Market determines value, and GW just had an amazing year. One could argue that they should be MORE expensive. After all, a Mercedes doesn’t ACTUALLY cost six times more to make, you’re paying for the brand and the perceived quality that comes with it. If you can’t afford it, that’s kinda the point.

      Of course, I’d like everything to be cheaper too, but then I would just buy more, and that’s its OWN problem. 🙂

    • Erick Earle

      Oh, I fully understand the idea of perceived market value (marketing graduate here), but I also know about the idea of marginal cost vs marginal benefit. Models are a luxury good. They just are. You don’t need a new computer every month. You don’t need new shoes every month. You don’t need new models every month. It won’t kill you. As such, they should be much more receptive to price change. Using your example, If that new Mercedes price tag jumped $100,000 in three years, it would cause a lot of people to question the perceived market value of a Mercedes and even decrease sales…but that’s not the case here. Their stock is increasing. The only thing I can think of to explain this is that their practices are more predatory. Before i am murdered on here by GW fanatics, by predatory, I mean they are very active in producing so much, so fast, the consumer doesn’t have time to make a rational decision. They capitalize on “Shiny Stuff” syndrome. If they spit something new out so fast (especially if it is a part of an army someone already owns as it won’t be perceived as such an overall, big investment) that the consumer doesn’t have adequate time to establish that appropriate perceived market value, the consumer will behave irrationally. Using my stated case based on other hobbyists who have made big purchases and regretted it later, my issue is that we need to take our time and think, will I really gain $52USD worth of benefit if I were to buy a Mawcrusha over an Arachnarok?

      • Eric Buchanan

        Arachnarok moulds are also old and paid for, versus the MawCrusha is a very new model that was just created. GW can afford to sell the spider for less because they aren’t trying to pay off the inital effort, any money made on that sculpt is gravy now. Its not a very good apples to apples comparison.

        • Erick Earle

          It is when you consider that the Araknarok cost the exact same brand new while they were in the process of paying off the mold production costs.

          • Eric Buchanan

            That model is 7 years old. Inflation over that period would suggest its price should rise about 12% to cover that. Yet they haven’t seen fit to raise the price on it. So its cheaper in terms of 2010 dollars. The way it was designed and manufactured is most likely completely different as well (hand sculpt vs alot more cad type work) so there are probably differences in costs for those work flows.

            Do you have an example of a recent large scale model from another manufacturer thats much cheaper and of comparative quality to the mawkrusha? That would be a better comparison.

          • Erick Earle

            Well, unless I’m mistaken, the publication for the last O&G Army Book was 2011 and the Mawkrusha came out in 2016, so it would only be a difference of 5 years. Regardless, I went to this site: http://www.in2013dollars.com/2011-dollars-in-2016?amount=100

            According to there, the inflation rate would have only risen 6.7% higher than the original release price in 2011. So, quick math there is $58USD X 1.067 = $61.886USD. However, in the comparison of the two, the price increase is well above inflation at a little over an increase of 89%

            As far as the design process goes, I don’t know how much difference there actually is, but I noticed a lot of similarities between the two models (for example, smoothness of the model design flow as opposed to the hand sculpted nature of most Forgeworld models). Both also come in a massive amount of pieces (Araknarok Spider is 86 while Mawkrusha is 63).

            I’d still reference the spider vs the Mawkrusha because of what Benvoliotthefirst referenced: GW is the top tier due to perceived market value. They’re also a great comparison because the work flow processes would be generally the same if we use the same company. However, if you still want a comparison from an outside company, Privateer Press has some large plastics. Having made both, The Skorne Desert Hydra is a much better model to me at close to comparable size than the MawKrusha is. But, asking for the comparative quality is more of a subjective opinion question as opposed to a hard dollar comparison.

          • Using US inflation for a British company would be a mistake, however

          • Ian Earle

            I understand your concern about the British vs US inflation, but from any company I’ve studied, GW keeps sectors almost completely exclusive. When Brexit popped up, the pound sank and I capitalized on Mantic and Warlord to great effect, but the US prices didn’t move at all. Even Forgeworld where you would expect it to fluctuate with the pound (since for forever they only accepted the pound), as soon as you set shipping to US prices, it increased the cost relative to the pound to Dollar ratio. I even checked again a few weeks ago and if you pretend you’re in the UK on FW, find out the cost in pounds for something, and then take that pounds amount into a currency exchange rate calculator, that cost will be less than what US people are paying.

    • At least with the war queen, the model’s rules aren’t particilarly good. Nobody really needs to buy her. I will eventually simply because I like the look of her, but $35 is a lot, as in an entire shadespire faction, so I’m in no rush haha

      • Ian Earle

        Amen on that. 7 amazing skeletons or her? I’ll spooky scary skeleton all day.

        • My friend plays a necromancer in our Warhammer quest campaign, so I had to get him some new skellies, the mantis ones I’ve been using don’t look like they could fight their way out of a paper bag haha

  • The manse was $90 when I bought it a few years ago so I was spot on this time with the guestimate of $110.

    I’ll be snagging the two books. I’m bringing my tomb kings out of their cases for campaign season next year.

    • I hope it hangs around, my hobby budget is nill currently, but I want one badly

      • I hope you get a chance to get one!

  • frankelee

    $110 for the Manse, exactly what I was expecting to have to over-pay.

  • ZeeLobby

    Man, everytime I think I’m ready to start buying from GW again, they continue with crazy pricing. I’m just never going to pay $35 for a single character, especially direct from them…

    • 415Native

      For real. I was excited about getting the new Death Guard characters, but I’m not willing to pay $25-35 for a single plastic model blister pack.

      • ZeeLobby

        I mean it’s quickly becoming a very expensive company to buy from if every faction and system (especially new ones I’d want to start) is littered with $35 characters.

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          I think the price tag is ok for Marines, where you only need 1 or 2 characters. Its really bad for deathguard since they require so many (due to all the buffs the characters hand out).

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah, DG is where I first noticed it largely. It basically put me off continuing past the starter box. The benefits are great, but i’m not buying 4 models that are that expensive.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            Agreed. Its why I stayed away as well.

        • Most characters are pretty easy to kitbash, just gotta get creative

          • ZeeLobby

            True. Ive just never been a fan of converting to save money if a model exists. I’ll convert a second model to make it unique. It’s just a personal peeve. I actually liked when things had no models. Was a good incentive to convert.

          • I usually convert everything, even if it’s the original model, that’s honestly the part of the hobby I spend the most time on. My beastlord is a blightking for example, and my bray shaman is actually a nurgle herald, for example, I just like everything being custom haha

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. I mean if i have a specific theme or idea for an army, I’ll convert everything to match it. But GW makes (made?, lately i cut a lot of bits off to return some sanity to their models) really great models. I like using what they come up with most of the time when I’m making some generic army. Regardless I liked buying characters (and even extra characters) for bits. Extra characters isn’t ever happening now, and now I’m just more likely to avoid armies that have 3-4 of these guys required to make it solid.

          • Oh yeah, I had a spare putrid blightbringer that i made into an AoS model, I cut off so much extra detail, it was enough to add all the detail to my Plague cart/warshrine

          • ZeeLobby

            That’s awesome. Yeah, I mean the 8th edition starters were great value for sure.

          • But I agree, I used to like hero hammer, but it hurts my wallet now. 2 nurgle heralds cost as much as maggoth rider

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. I was a kid when hero hammer was in full swing, so we didn’t really play anything right, so I grew up playing infantry/unit trench warfare. It’s what I loved about the game. Now that the heroes are back, and growing in size, it just seems very different. The battlefields used to seem massive, now they seem so small.

    • JPMcMillen

      I have to agree. I thought about getting two of them for use in ‘other’ games, but not for that price.

      • ZeeLobby

        And it’s sad, cause I do really like some of these. But man, I just don’t get it. I mean clearly it’s a price point GW has decided will maximize their profits, but it just chases me personally further away.

        • JPMcMillen

          Especially with so many current single characters hovering around $15-$23. I would have paid for something in that price range, no question. Now… probably set up a watch on eBay to find a better deal down the road.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      That’s the problem with Plastic characters. It costs a ton to make the mold and GW has to recoup costs. Characters are always going to be sell a small amount , since you likely only need 1 (if you need one at all). So the price rises.

      • JPMcMillen

        Until you run into people like me that might want to buy the mini’s for other games. Some things GW sells are actually reasonably priced compared to similar mini’s from other companies. Heck, some of their old WFB stuff were bargains.

      • ZeeLobby

        It’s the inconsistency that bothers me. As JP said, some things seems reasonable priced or a great deal while others seem like robbery, I’d rather have a set standard somewhere in the middle. It at least to me doesn’t seem to be based on model complexity or size. Those are variances I can understand. Sales performance driven pricing is not something I’ll ever readily support in a miniature game.

    • EnTyme

      It’s the same price as every other single-sprue named model released in the last three years. How is this a surprise to anyone at this point? And if you’re planning on saying “doesn’t mean I have to like it”, it also doesn’t mean you have to buy it, nor does it mean you have to post this same comment after every single-sprue named model is announced at $35.

      • ZeeLobby

        Why? I find it disappointing. Characters have been made both central and necessary in 40K and AoS, and shocker, their prices have increased during this transition. There used to be great looking $25 plastic characters littered throughout fantasy, so sorry if everything being $35 seems high. Especially for the newer models which are almost always monopose. I personally was maybe looking forward to jumping back into AoS with this campaign, and enjoying fantasy since the end times, but I’m sorry, that stormcast and chaos model are just poor models for $35.

        • EnTyme

          $25 is roughly the price for generic HQs, not named HQs. Named characters can only ever be used once in any army list, but you can potentially use multiple copies of a generic. Do you see the difference?

          • ZeeLobby

            LOL. That’s the GW defense you want to use? Because the model has a name, and you can only take one, it should cost $10 more… Wow. Hats off to you my friend. GW says “dig into that wallet” and you say “how far?”

          • EnTyme

            It’s more about recouping the cost of the mold, Zee. I suppose that value is in the eye of the beholder, so I’ll leave you to play your other games.

          • ZeeLobby

            Then they should have stuck with alternative materials. I’ve put my DG collection on hold because I’d need to spend $100 on 4 characters to run what I want. That just seems insane to anyone starting the game. Believe me, I was no fan of failcast, and I love plastic, but they’re just trying to recoup too much. They’re comfortable with high margins and expect them on everything. I’ll gladly give them good margins on boxes of units if they give back a little on characters. Just think it’s crazy that I’d spend twice as much on a single small plastic model that I would have on both a mounted and on foot combo of a character pre-AoS.

            I’m sorry if I was mean. It just seems like a crazy formula that will only hurt adoption. I can get faction starter boxes in other systems for the same price. I just can’t sell AoS to my group with comparisons like that.

          • ZeeLobby

            LOL. That’s the GW defense you want to use? Because the model has a name, and you can only take one, it should cost $10 more… Wow. Hats off to you my friend. GW says “dig into that wallet” and you say “how far?”

  • Gunther Clone C

    Do we NEED these characters to play? I was thinking of running a Skaven only army. We rat-things are above all others.

    • Not even remotely, the war queen kinda sucks tbh, she’s really only useful in an unmarked slaves to darkness army as general, but she’s gonna get sniped before she does anything, paper thin armor etc

  • Thedinosaur

    skullvane (L)

    my tip is 200AUD but it will probably be more…