BOMBSHELL: Blood Bowl, BFG, & More – Specialist Games RETURNS! ?

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You HAVE to see the news that is breaking out of GW Australia. Games Workshop stores just announced the return of Specialist Games!

In what seems to be a co-ordinated roll out, several Australian and an American Games Workshop store have posted this image that seems to indicate the return of Specialist Games the division of GW that handles fan favorites such as Blood Bowl, Necromonuda and BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC, as well as continued support for LoTR!!

Via Games Workshop Belconnen 11-11-2015

Games Workshop Belconnen:·

READ IT AND WEEP, WEEP SWEET GLORIOUS TEARS OF JOY AND PRAISE THE HOBBY GODS!

-Mat

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And here’s a closer look at the image itself:
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Also posting the same picture and/or are the following GW Stores:

Adding more fuel to the fire, one GW managers has already begun to comment on the news to customers:

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Interesting times indeed. Is this a precursor to a major company initiative that will see the return of so many beloved games?

I wonder how many hobbyists old and new will jump into older games such as BFG, Necromunda, or play the “official” style Blood Bowl once again? Only time will tell.

What a day, what a day indeed! How exciting are you for a return of Specialist Games? 

  • Andrew

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • I want to believe, but the hoaxers are so “professional” nowadays you do have to take everything with a pinch of salt.

      If all the GW hoaxers in the world spent the same time and effort on medical research, there’d be no cancer and we’d all live to be 1000 years old.

      • Chris. K Cook

        Yeah and some of the language looks a bit… off…

        • Muninwing

          as the article states, it was written by a store manager, nor a marketing/advertising specialist…

          • Deathwing

            Store operator. I remember the days of actual store managers and they were masters of their craft. The guys I have seen “managing” stores since that time have been what good (and sometimes REALLY BAD) red shirts were back in the day.

          • Chris. K Cook

            Does GW have any Marketing Specialists on their pay roll any more?

      • D. B.

        Remember the “leaked releases plan” a few years back, complete with product codes? Some of that stuff actually sounded so interesting that I’ll be using it for conversion material…

      • Michael Campbell

        I know the manager in question, he may not have great photoshop skills, but he’s not a hoaxer.

        It’s a case of enthusiasm for the announcement getting in the way of double-checking his posts.

        • Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t calling the GW managers hoaxers, it’s just that they may have been duped in my twisted imaginary world which has thankfully been proved twisted and imaginary. 🙂

    • Zingbaby

      I just came to drink in the cynicism of plastic-toy gaming nerds. Oh the problems we have…

    • silashand

      ^This. I want to believe since the Specialist Games were some of the best products GW ever put out, but to say I am skeptical is an understatement.

    • RedCorsair

      You can believe it now. GW has released the basics of the info through their official app.

  • Andrew Thomas

    I guess I’ll get the chance to get my chaos fleet out of mothballs, so yay.

    • pokemastercube .

      i know the feeling, have a titan legion sitting gathering dust from epic

      • AreyouaNazi? Isthatyourelf?

        Epic in Australia is a thriving game, with new miniatures being produced even by aftermarket modellers.

        • pokemastercube .

          it is all well and good that, but i live in the UK, and due to the fact i have mobility problems i cant get to the gaming club which is 20 miles away and meet in eavnings when there is no bus service from where i live, so i am stuck with just the GW store down the road

          • Shawn

            Is the GW store really that bad pokemastercube? There aren’t any in my part of Florida, but there are several gaming stores, all within 55 miles that offer plenty of gaming. The nearest GW store here is 3 hours away in Alabama.

          • pokemastercube .

            the GW down the road i can go into easy, thing is as it is close to nottingham we get the ppl who inspect the stores come in a lot so the store manager doesnt risk allowing the specilist games to be played in store as he isnt allowed to do that. but as mentioned there is a gaming club sorta nearby but i cant get to it and they do the specilist games that GW use to do

          • Shawn

            Gotcha. So you can only play what is current at the GW store as long as they’re GW products and at the local game store you can play current GW games, old GW games, and other companies games. That’s real pain.

          • pokemastercube .

            try the gaming club being just a group of gamers that book a hall at a social center

        • nurglitch

          Given the massive aftermarket and 3rd-parties for these games, it seems like an odd move to try and pick up properties that have essentially become public domain (or at least have competitors).

          • amaximus167

            There is a good chance they are doing this to get a strangle hold back on their IP.

          • nurglitch

            That’s just it, the cat’s out of the bag here.

          • Deathwing

            BINGO

          • euansmith

            Like the recent terrible Fantastic Four movie?

          • amaximus167

            Didn’t see it. Heard it was bad though.

          • Erik Setzer

            So horrible they actually killed off the Fantastic Four in the Marvel universe, at least for now. Reed and Sue Richards are missing (as are their kids), Johnny Storm joined the Uncanny Inhumans, and Thing joined the Guardians of the Galaxy, with Peter Parker buying the Baxter Building to use as one of his corporate HQs.

          • Shawn

            I really hate Marvel right about now. Sorry Erik, but arbitrarily changing character’s genders or ethnic origin is a pain in the behind.

          • Marky

            Wasn’t superman always an aboriginal woman?

          • Erik Setzer

            Let me see if I can think of all the changes…

            Ms. Marvel – Not really a change, since the original still exists as Captain Marvel (she used both names). This one, Kamala Khan, looked up to the original so much she ended up adopting the name, and the original said, “Yeah, you’re good enough, you can use it.”

            Thor – A bit of a strange one… Thor is still the same person, but he decided to let the person wielding his hammer use his name until he was worthy to use the hammer again. It’s his girlfriend anyway, Jane Foster, so it’s still “in the family.” She’s got cancer and can’t handle the power anyway, so it’ll eventually be back to the “original” Thor.

            Captain America – Steve Rogers got a wish to be the age he should be, apparently, so he’s too old to be Cap (but is running SHIELD groups). Sam Wilson was his friend, so he let Sam take up the shield.

            Nick Fury Jr. – He’s “Junior.” Pappy Fury is still Nick Fury.

            Spider-Man – The whole Spider-Fillintheblank thing got kind of out of hand. And this is where things get… weird. Peter Parker is still Spider-Man, but not publicly, so when he needs Spider-Man to be where he is as Parker, he has a friend wearing the suit (though not as strong, no spider-sense, and can’t quip as well). But there’s also Miles Morales as “Spider-Man” in New York… so people are having to deal with multiple Spider-Man’s. But Peter’s still the original.

            Wolverine – Yeah, this one is the only one I’m “meh” on. They gave X-23 Logan’s suit and code name. I imagine Logan is still kicking somewhere. Since X-23 was a developed character, no idea why they felt the need to give her the name and suit of another character, other than X-23 not having as much brand identity.

            I can’t think of any other ethnicity/gender swaps at the moment, but I might have missed one or two.

            For the most part, they make sense in the story, and people in the world react to them being different. (I think the Internet is providing them with fodder for some bystanders with Same Wilson. And there was side comment where a guy comments that the new Wolverine is “way hotter” than the old one.)

          • Me

            I am so far out of that loop that I did not even know that Parker is no longer on a ramen noodle budget.

          • Erik Setzer

            They haven’t wrapped up Secret Wars yet, but I get the feeling at the end of it there’s going to be something that not only brings back the wrecked worlds, but also grants a lot of people a wish. Steve Rogers, for example, got to age to where he’s supposed to be, which means he’s an old guy running SHIELD teams instead of fighting as Captain America.

          • Marky

            I think they could undo a lot of the hate they have been bringing on themselves by releasing some updated specialist games.

            I play bloodbowl online 2 times a week and spent about 1000 bucks on non-gw games in the last few months. I reckon they could easily outsell AOS by re releasing necromunda.

            If it was me I would rolling release bloodbowl, necromunda, BFG and Mordheim every 3 months. New boxed set with minor rules tweeks and use names like BloodBowl 2016 for the set + support their games in store for 3 months per year (then online only until the next year when you know it will be back so you can keep buying without risking an AOS)..

            But I suppose I have more info than GW on what the fans &gamers want, because I have asked people 😉

        • Tommy Walker

          It must be, because for the past few years, I’ve sold a lot of my old Epic stuff on eBay and the buyers were all from Australia.

      • Erik Setzer

        I’ll play Epic again if they release a better version of it. Armageddon’s still better than the E40K train wreck, but doesn’t compare to Space Marine, where you had companies of men with their support, rather than multiple 40K armies running around pretending to be a coherent army.

        Might play E:A anyway, just so I can make use of all my old Epic Orks again. (And I have some Squats in a box, too…)

        • Tommy Walker

          Yeah, I loved the original Epic and we played it a lot back in the early 90’s.

  • nurglespuss

    ‘If’ it is true (and I don’t buy it) – it’ll have a cracking effect on eBay prices 🙂

    • I don’t know if ebay price are related to the same dimension as from where I am writing. Steel Legion IG are still available from GW but some try to sell them for 4x price. 🙂

      • Chris. K Cook

        That’s because people are stupid. And just assume the old metal IG are OOP.

      • Me

        People do not research, and this includes some of the sellers. Some of them try to prey on the buyers who do not shop around (as Chris. K Cook mentions) and some sellers just look at what are others trying to charge and price theirs accordingly.

    • Jax Tolmen

      It’s true. Games Workshop managers won’t go posting things like that on Facebook without being 100% sure it is true. They’re not going to risk their job by lying to their customers and spreading rumors (which GW staff are not allowed to comment on) – I’d look for a more formal announcement soon.

    • Chris. K Cook

      Yeah just like when the warehouse released all the old RT Era stuff in a fire sale about 6 years back the prices of squats ect went down to sane prices this will hit the eBay gougers hard.

      As will the release of the then exclusive leader minis from the Campaign sets. And to be honest I’ll not shed a tear.

    • amaximus167

      No doubt! I just went on to eBay to check out BFG prices and they were insane. Ships that sat in 1/2 off bins now going for 5x the normal price.

      • Marky

        Must be a regional thing… You from the USA?

        • amaximus167

          Yes

  • Chris

    Games Workshop Joondalup (Western Australia) is reporting the same thing. Praise the Emprah

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    We’ll see how it goes.

    Now everyone who complained about Specialist Games not existing – despite their popularity – can put their money where their mouths are. Buy the games or stop complaining.

    I predict more complaining.

    I could care less about more LotR/Hobbit crap. Blood Bowl and Necromunda are ok.

    Battlefleet Gothic… Yeah, that could be my jam.

    We’ll see though.

    • Vorropohaiah

      I think you mean couldn’t care less. saying you could care less means you could care less. You Americans and your funny expressions…

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        David Mitchell is secretly yelling at me.

        https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw

        • Zingbaby

          Coorigan!!!

          • euansmith

            “Are we the baddies..?”

      • Erik Setzer

        Americans aren’t the only ones who do it. And hardly the only ones with “funny expressions.”

        • Chris. K Cook

          Fair shake of the sauce bottle cobber. You are talking about us Aussies aren’t you?

          • euansmith

            Fair dinkum, me ol’ possum; as we Brits say.

          • Jonathan B.

            Austin: Listen, dad, if you are are going to say naughty things in front of these American girls then at least speak English English.
            [Nigel looks back at girls]
            Nigel: All right, my son: I could’ve had it away with this cracking Julie, my old China. Austin: Are you telling pork-pies and a bag of trout? Because if you are feeling quigly, why not just have a J. Arthur?Nigel: What, billy no mates?Austin: Too right, youth.Nigel: Don’t you remember the crimbo din-din we had with the grotty Scots bint? Austin: Oh, the one that was all sixes and sevens!Nigel: Yeah, yeah, she was the trouble and strife of the Morris dancer what lived up the apples and pears!Austin: She was the barrister what become a bobby in a lorry and…Austin & Nigel: –tea kettle!Nigel: And then, and then–Austin & Nigel: She shat on a turtle!

          • Chris. K Cook

            Crickey mate are you taking the piss you drongo?

      • Shawn

        And maybe he could care less, but as an American expression, us American’s new what he meant 😉 Of course, on the other side of the coin, he really might have meant “I couldn’t care less” which is still used in America but didn’t write it the way he intended. In the end, I think we all could care a bit less about GW and some of their products.

        • Me

          That last statement is especially true if we are here reading and posting.

    • Andrew

      I’d buy a number of things. An Escher gang, the Scavvy resculpts, the Arbites; maybe an Epic 40k army…

      Here’s the thing: *if* this is true, they’re gonna have to actually support these games. If they don’t, there will be a huge spike in sales from nostalgics, and then a big dropoff after that initial nostalgia wears off. Nobody wants to play dead, unsupported games.

      • Chris. K Cook

        Oh god the Arbites. I was eyeing of a set of Shilds ad Mauls for $25 each on eBay!

        Sane prices here we come.

        • euansmith

          “Sane Prices”… um… Gee-Dubblyew..?

          • Chris. K Cook

            You’ve not Trawlled eBay then I’ll take it. Gee-Dubs are downright cheap compared to some of those jokers.

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          You can now buy the Plastic versions of the Arbites with Shields and Mauls for $25 a piece direct from Games Workshop!

          • Chris. K Cook

            You get that I was talking about the Sheild and Maul White Metal sprue without a body right? Not counting postage. THAT would actually be cheaper.

      • amaximus167

        I want BFG models.

      • Me

        Define “support”. If by that you mean keep selling them, I could see that. If you mean FAQ rules, regular updates, etc… Then not so much.

        • Marky

          Re releasing them every year or 2 and updating some models

      • cuda1179

        I’d hate to be the biggest speculator in this discussion….. but a while back there was discussion of plastic Sisters of Battle being worked on. Could they possibly be meant for specialist games instead? Possibly a Necromunda faction?

        • Andrew

          That would probably be Escher if that were the case. And that would be just fine with me.

    • Erik Setzer

      If the games come out and they aren’t stupidly expensive, I’ll jump back in easily. But more than my money, I’ll have to convince others to spend money. I’ve got multiple gangs for Necromunda, multiple warbands for Mordheim (especially using WFB models), a bunch of Blood Bowl teams (and even converted a new one for a recent BB league), couple of BFG fleets, some Man’o’War fleets, Warmaster armies…

      But there was no one to play the games with. So now that can change.

      There’s still armies/gangs/fleets/warbands/etc. I’d like to get, but I likely wouldn’t be spending as much as a new player.

    • amaximus167

      HH with BFG would be fantastic. Ship battles are such a key part of the fluff.

      • Muninwing

        i’d love to see rules for boarding parties… perhaps zone mortalis style play…

        • euansmith

          Maybe Drop Zone Commander will add a 28mm skirmish to their range?

          • Muninwing

            are the games segue-able?

            and can it be unit-based instead of skirmish?

            really, i’d rather just having better killteams rules that had optionals for equipment and environmental factors…

    • Deathwing

      Its been a long time but I would gladly break back out my BFG fleets and expand them if they revamped the line and the rules.
      Armada just is not doing it for me. its not the same.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        I love X-Wing and had high hopes for Armada but the game is terrible.

        The scale is bad. Since when are a handful of star destroyers an “armada”? The movement stick is cool but clunky.

        • ZeeLobby

          Agreed. I was waiting on Dropfleet Commander, but this announcment removes most of my interest in that.

        • ChubToad

          I was considering Armada with a few guys at our local GS, but heard mild reviews of that system. At least you get to play with Home One I guess…

    • Sutr

      What? Common sense here? You must be new 😀

    • dodicula

      i hope this means gw finally realized they are in a competitive market and that right now the competition is eating their lunch. But they may be 5 years or so too late and as always show me the prices.

      • Marky

        To be honest, GW can charge me quite a lot for BloodBowl 40k or a plastic scenery necromunda re release..

  • Camoron

    Oh YEEEEAAAAAAA. Me and my bro were just pondering how much we were willing to spend on Bloodbowl. Sorry DreadBall, you is out.

    • euansmith

      There is also “Guild Ball”.

      • nurglitch

        Fantasy football is a crowded market. I’m honestly surprised nobody has licensed the NFL yet.

        • euansmith

          The Nether Forest League?

        • Erik Setzer

          It’s probably pretty expensive. But you’d also have to put some serious work into it if you wanted it to be accurate, especially for league play. You’ve got 53 man rosters with 10 man practice squads, free agents, trades… On the field every down would basically be a new game-within-a-game as you have to line up players and then perform their actions.

          I’m not even sure how it’d work… I think you *could* make it into a game, but it’d be so complicated no one would want to play it, and the more casual people would just stick with Madden.

          • euansmith

            There was a game called “Gridiron” (I think) we used to play back in the 1990s. This used a matrix for each team that contained stats drawn from the previous seasons results. You chose plays and the results were based on the teams’ proven ability to pull them off. It was quite fun.

          • Marky

            Also A lot of ppl wouldn’t be interested because they have no interest in actual American football…

  • gredert

    Based on how many GW’s are involved I am gonna go with this is real and that not only excites me as a player of those games it makes me hopeful that in some way GW has come partially around towards listening to what people want (for those who saw them asking for our ideas on Xmas videos I listed some possible stuff then added some blood bowl requests based solely on the release of the new game. Any gifts will be accepted). We get HH as a main game, now this. Maybe Kirbyville leaving has had an effect. Also who wants to take bet’s on the holiday packs being these games since GW is big on 1 month or less notice on new stuff….

    • Vorropohaiah

      what i find weird is its in the country that GW hates the most. I’m guessing if its true it’s something to do with time zones?

  • Crevab

    How surprising. Now THIS is a sign that management is shifting directions

    • Yellow Sigmarine

      Too true. Seems GW won’t change some things, but at least they are willing to learn in certain, glorious ways.

  • Thomas Gardiner

    PLEASE bring back Inquisitor (even if they just use plastic, 28mm models). That was such an interesting system with a very dark aesthetic. And not dark as in “overblown, gothic grimdark.” I mean dark as in “creepy as hell, disturbing” dark =P

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      I like Inq too, but to be honest there are lots of resources online and nothing stopping you playing in 28mm.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        as talon says below, Inquisitor was replaced by Dark Heresy. The first edition first print was developed at black library before being sold off to FFG. It contains many of the same concepts and rules, although second edition has changed that a bit. I do use some of the inquisitor models when doing GM. It also is percentile based like Inquisitor was.

    • You might want to look at the RPG systems from Fantasyflight. Dark Heresy and such. They are heavily inspired by Inquisitor.

      • euansmith

        Its not real grim dark unless the players develop serious mental issues…

        • Mwahahaha *evil gamemaster laugh*

          • Severius_Tolluck

            too true. god its so hard to make it a short campaign without someone melting into goo, going nuts, or venting themselves out the airlock for the greater goo, i mean continued well being of the party.

        • Vomkrieg

          Played a pretty good campaign of that, right up until one of our regular players was “this is way too grim dark, can we just stop”.

          He hadn’t been having fun for a while and finally said it, so we stopped. I was having a blast playing arguably the most unusual and bizarre character I have ever played.

          • euansmith

            We played some games of “Over The Edge” like that 😀

          • Vomkrieg

            ok, try this character on for size.

            5 ft 5, lithe, shaved head, deep angry voice, covered in tatoos, wields dual blades and generally a hyper masculine angry enforcer, a sort of paragon of “toxic masculinity”. Also, assigned by our inquisitor to “guard” the sanctioned psyker and has interpreted that to mean “threaten to behead” every time he has a headache.

            The twist in the character, which wasn’t revealed to the players until 20 games in. Is that the character is only 14, from the ruling family of a spire, and was born female, but is taking hormones. She decided at about age 12 that the life of being a court lady was not for her, so went on the run. The entire “toxic masculinity” thing is total over compensation. the “whirling blades of death” combat style was developed from the fact she was the top gymnast in the spire before running away from home.

            The voice was also from the mask she always wore, they never saw any of her face from the eyes down.

            That was an interesting character to play. And the reveal that left the other players with their mouths on the floor was insanely worth it.

          • euansmith

            Wow! I’ve never had anyone actually play ME before!

          • Hedwerx

            You’re a lady from the eyes down, eh?
            Is that a bolter in your pocket… no, no wait… Is that a warp vortex in your trousers or are you just pleased to see me?

          • euansmith

            “Say “Hello” to my little friend…”

  • Justin Thomas

    warhammer quest anyone?

    • nurglitch

      So long as they switch to the blood bowl rules for combat instead of the abortion they actually used, it’ll be good.

    • euansmith

      That really was a winning formula for GW where they could bring out new single minis with cards and charge an arm and a leg for them.

  • The14th

    Don’t toy with me Rob!

  • Master Avoghai

    Well maybe this will leave a room for WHFB 😛

  • MKG35

    The only thing that has me worried is that they charge a fortune for normal G.W products so gods know how much they are going to charge for “Specialist” products.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      30 dollars for a turd with insectoid feelers (i.e. a tyranid ship).

      • Muninwing

        a toilet and a cricket and BOOM! you can play!

        just gotta ‘ardcoat the heck outta that one.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          can’t complain about the barrier to entry with that one!

          • euansmith

            I dunno, I can’t afford enough roughage in my diet to make a Tyranid Ship… I’ll have to stick with Nurgle Slurry Clouds instead.

          • Muninwing

            you’re making me dread knowing what Khorne…

            ah, nevermind, the joke writes itself.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            well, be sure to get yours from someone with chron’s or something, you know, for the blood god and stuff!

          • Muninwing

            aaaand someone had to go there…

  • Troy

    Let the sale of $500 box sets begin!!

    Though I would love to see Mordheim 2.0, or something like it!

    • euansmith

      “Frostgrave” it is then 😀

      • Troy

        Frostgrave looks awesome and cool, and is a brilliant concept!

        I might give it a try, but I have hang-ups about 20-sided roleplaying systems … done it too much, want something new! 🙂

        • Erik Setzer

          So by “want something new” you want more D6 systems? 😛

          • Troy

            Hey, I’m new to Wargaming! So yes 😀

            My secret dream is Warhammer magically changing to d10s so the maths is easier! 😉

          • Erik Setzer

            Nah. But the Warhammer RPG used D10s, at least back in the day.

          • euansmith

            It actually used %D; but all advances were in units of 5%… so it was effectively D20 😀

      • Yellow Sigmarine

        Awesome game

  • Reality check here

    1. This is not an official GW statement
    2. With everything in the GW range either plastic or Fine cast due to be replaced by plastic why would GW bring back games where the supporting miniatures are predominantly in metal apart from those in the core game sets? Why would FW be included?
    3. What happened to ‘ we’re a models company not a games company?’
    A truck is leaving several tons of salt outside my house purely to be taken with this rumour, highly dubious of this one

    Peace out
    Phil

    • Vorropohaiah

      though im smelling the fish and salt from a mile away here, assuming this is true… they might make a generic necromunda sprue (for instance) with add on sprues for different gangs. probably wishful thinking!

      Or, since it might be taken care of by FW, theyll start from scratch releasing FW-quality minis in resin.

    • Thomas Gardiner

      1) it’s being put out there by multiple official GW stores. I’d say that makes it at least worthy of consideration.

      2) You do know they can make new minis, right?

    • Jax Tolmen

      1. It’s an official Games Workshop Statement because it came from a Games Workshop store. Games Workshop doesn’t have many other methods of communicating with customers.

      2. Umm…a new range? In plastic? Is that so hard to grasp.

      3. Funny how specialist games involve models still.

      Games Workshop does what everyone wants them to do, and you still complain. Not only that – you think that a Games Workshop manager would risk their job by lying to their customers. Much less having it happen en masse across multiple stores.

      Specialist Games are coming back. I don’t know how it could be any more blatant that this is real. Do you need the CEO to come and scream it in your face before you’ll believe it?

      Australia announced it first because they were the first ones to open following the directive to share the news.

      • vlad78

        Let’s see how this is handled. Like the first space hulk box? Thumbs up.
        Like dreadfleet? No way.

        I expect great games with great minis at a great value.

        In fact to get me back they have to be simply better than the competition. Anything less and they won’t get my money.

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        Betrayal at Calth and the Assassins game could be seen as the start of a new way of doing things.

        • Erik Setzer

          So… a small game with little replay value as a means of saying “Look, you have a few figures, spend $800 more for an army so you can play a REAL game”?

          I really hope that’s not their “new way.” Mordheim shouldn’t be a gateway to Age of Sigmar.

          • ChubToad

            why $800 and not $100?

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            we don’t know if they will issue expansions or other games using the same rules.

      • Erik Setzer

        “Games Workshop doesn’t have many other methods of communicating with customers.”

        By choice. They could use their website… but they opted instead for a pure store and stripped pretty much all the useful info. They could do social media, but they don’t like the idea of people actually being able to respond directly and publicly.

        “Games Workshop does what everyone wants them to do, and you still complain.”

        No. It hasn’t done anything yet. We have an ALLEGED announcement dripping with sarcasm. We haven’t seen rules, models, or prices. If they release new, altered versions of the games, requiring completely new models at prices that make sure you’re spending $200 or more for a small force (that’s just a hypothetical), then there’s no reason to praise them.

        They EARNED this lack of faith and trust.

        • ChubToad

          Yeah hate them with the energy of 1000 suns instead.

    • MarcoT

      Could be core boxes only, to test the waters. Bringing back every model at once would be cool, but naive.

    • Malichief

      A friend of mine pointed out a change in GW business model http://investor.games-workshop.com/our-business-model/

      They changed several things, one of them being this:
      “The games are a key part of both our Hobby and our business model. Our games are played between people present in a room (a Hobby centre, a club, a school), not with a screen. They are truly social and build a real sense of community and comradeship. This again makes good business sense. The more fun and enjoyable we make our games, the more customers we attract and retain, and the more miniatures our customers want to buy. This in turn allows us to reinvest in making more and more exciting miniatures and games, which creates a virtuous circle for all.”

      So I guess they are not just a model company anymore…

      • Erik Setzer

        They’ve had that for a long time now, actually. It’s one of the things that makes it so weird when they get into their “We do MODELS, not games, people!” spiels.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      and its not an official looking announcement. That said GW has let information slip in weird ways before…

  • latro990

    Aussies… were prob drunk.

    • Thomas Gardiner

      And an American store. Probably idiots.

      (I kid, I kid! I love you guys really) =P

      • Ben

        No that’s about accurate…. As an American I can say that

        • Muninwing

          2/5 of the US do not drink. but 1/5 drink an average of 70.1 drinks per week. that said, those people are often spending time and money on other things besides miniatures.

          we just have a whole lotta idiots. who our parties think we should vote for will tell you that quickly enough.

          • Ben

            Couldn’t agree more… Especially on what the political elite believe what is best for us.. I always find it amusing when a politician tells me about some great policy they are enacting and then act surprised when it does the exact opposite (and costs more) than it was original planned. It’s even more amusing when said politician is not affected by the policy they push down our throats….

          • Muninwing

            what bothers me most is that we have a delusion that our politicians are somehow decent individuals, but when looking at their opposition we remember that all politicians lie.

            and even when sources exist whose sole sxistence is to separate fact from fiction in a nonpartisan manner, we cannot be bothered to use them. or, if our “side” is too steeped in party narrative over reality, to bother to believe that they aren’t just the tools of “our opponents”

            incidentally… just now, i typed “opponents” in a sorta backward way and got “poop” before i corrected it. probably the best example of a freudian slip ever.

          • Marky

            the surprising thing to me is that anyone believes they were trying to achieve the outcome they stated they were trying to achieve… Increasing military spend to make the USA safer?
            Or increasing military spend with my friends company to protect the interests of the oil company who funded my rise to power… I’d believe the 2nd one if they said it.

          • Ben

            About as believable as free college tuition for all and stopping weather being weather via government policy 🙂

    • Muninwing

      somewhere near the turn of the century, i went to visit my brother at grad school in toronto. we went out to a pub, met up with his friends, and some of their friends… two were australian girls, one of whom had just completed her masters and was out celebrating.

      i… don’t remember getting home. i do remember that when she saw i’d finished my pint first, she took it as a challenge, finished hers, poured new ones for both of us, and finished her second one while not breaking eye contact as a challenge.

      the wort part of this story was the 10-hour drive ride the next day, in a car with my parents.

  • Jamie Garrett

    Just booooo to any negative nellies on this one. I bloody love necromunda and bloodbowl and always through they were the most accessible games in GW’s range. With the recent ‘dumbing down’ of 40K and Fantasy/AoS these games could be relaunched (the rules don’t need much tweeking) and they could make a packet from new product ranges. They could easily bang out teams/gangs at at least £30 (similar price range to a 10 man box set in other line ranges) and they would fly off the shelf. As a model making company this is a brilliant idea.

    • Gridloc

      and boo to the GW lemmings that will follow them off a cliff with wallets open.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        Lemmings actually don’t go off cliffs. Just big corps like Disney push them off and say “look, they jump off cliffs aren’t they dumb?”

  • Gary Morrison

    my local store manager is set for a general meeting at HQ this weekend.
    i imagine it to be rolling out in the new year if that’s the case, yeah the managers meeting is a quarterly thing…. but timing on this notice is a good sign.

    • Jax Tolmen

      Not to burst your bubble, but the word from the local GW is that the studio only just came into existence. It could be a very long wait before any tangible products come to exist.

      • BeneathALeadMountain

        I’d guess that like their other releases they could have stuff waiting to go. They are more likely to reopen SG’s based on the quality of products they’ve come up with already than just take a wild punt. That said it’s GW, logic is not their bedfellow, so no-one will know until the fat ork sings.

        I’m going to be optimistic though as 2nd ed Bloodbowl was my first game and an enduring passion.

      • Gary Morrison

        like i said, in the new year.
        i fully expect managers to be tweaking AoS and possibly now BaC in order to have mordheim and maybe a kill team without using kill team rules (if that makes sense).

        or even (fingers crossed) hive wars with necromunda, using standard rules for 40k, with the older rules cobbled on…. like shotgun ricochets, falling, and the wacky archeotech of old. (my local store did similar recently with warhammer quest, periodical loot tables and monster encounter charts to show the quests travelling the world)

        but yeah i agree we cant expect fresh product soon…. at most repacks of old stock/remakes of old stock.

  • dcgamers

    Am I the only one seeing Typos there? Salt Level is increasing…

    • Bethayne

      The post was created by the manager of the store from information they were told; not from any GW staff that would normally type official site announcements. It doesn’t seem unusual for it to contain typos.

    • Jax Tolmen

      Managers very often will take it upon themselves to develop their own flyers/ promotional material. Which is exactly what happened here.

      You could have just checked the Facebook page of the store in question and found that it was real.

      • dcgamers

        Don’t have a Facebook account so looking it up is impossible 😉

        • Jax Tolmen

          Ah, that explains a lot. My local GW’s page is being flooded by people asking if it is real; the word is that it is definitely happening!

    • dcgamers

      OK but I see so typos are common, well Salt Level decreasing… XD

  • MarcoT

    Perhaps this is the positive influence of FFG and smaller gaming companies like CMoN. We bloody love miniature boardgames. GW used to be awesome at it.

    • Yes, we can’t possibly say anything positive about GW here, so we’re going to give credit to other companies for something GW is doing that might actually be quite good.

      🙂

      • Gridloc

        GW would be $100 for a box of marines if other companies didn’t exist. Thank those companies with all your heart that they keep GW at least somewhat affordable.

        • And if GW hadn’t existed in the first place we’d only have Hasbro and WotC. 🙂

          It’s the ciiiirrrrcle of liiiife…

      • Sutr

        As usual, of course.

  • superb, it will be all in fantastic resin, I can feel it 🙂

    • vlad78

      100 pounds a piece.

  • Vomkrieg

    If the games gets some development, modernized rules, new figs, this might be something really good, a genuinely great move.

    If they just re-release “as is”, then…. well, been there, played that and i’m not that keen to pay 2015 prices for 1995 products.

  • David Leimbach

    In other news. I just so happen to own the Golden Gate bridge. I’ve had enough of it and have decided to sell it cheap. Cash only. Anyone?

    • Vomkrieg

      Well, if you ran that announcement from the official golden gate bridge facebook page, I might take it a little more seriously.

      4 GW stores running the announcement so far and i’ve verified those store facebook pages are legit.

      • David Leimbach

        I suspect the stores are victims of a hoax. As much as I’d like it to be true there are lots of things tipping towards it being fake.
        Wasn’t LoTR removed from all stores supposedly in prep for HH?

        • Vomkrieg

          Occams razor. What is more likely, that GW managers are posting information on official GW sites received from head office. Or that they have all fallen victim to a hoax without double checking it was a hoax.

          Based on what i know of GW managers and their corporate culture. I’ll bet on option 1.

      • Lutharr

        you think these shops would run this without offical confirmation? They would be looking down the barrel if they just whacked things willy nilly onto their pages.

        • Vomkrieg

          No I don’t think they would run this without official confirmation and have said as much. Did you mean to reply to someone else?

          • Lutharr

            yeah i meant to reply to the OP. sorry about that lol

  • ted1138

    Makes sense, now they’ve had a chance to see how other companies have filled the gaps in the market they left behind when they closed down their ‘specialist branch’.

    • vlad78

      indeed. Can they offer better products? If they still sell overpriced crap, all of this will be for nought.

      BTW, there might still be hope to see the old world return in the end. (even if I’m not sure I’m willing to get heavily invested in any GW brand in the futur)

      • ted1138

        Maybe they’re jealous of games like Malifaux, Frostgrave, Dropship Commander, Firestorm Armada and Infinity, and this is an attempt to poach back their players?

  • Thedinosaur

    Confirmed for Games Workshop Ringwood in Victoria.
    The hype is real.

  • Badgerboy1977

    If true it sounds like a great move and a welcome return, particularly if they use the sort of skill seen in recent minis and sets.

    • Yellow Sigmarine

      Can’t wait to see some awesomely posed BB players!

      • Talarius

        Then google Pedro Ramos or Willys Miniatures

  • Yellow Sigmarine

    Seems Gdubs are getting the hang of how hype should be done. Shame they didn’t drop this kind of thing when AoS was on the way in – might have cut a lot of negativity out.
    Now give me Mordheim.

    • Alex Simmonds

      Mordheim is what I want. However, I think mordheim is the least likely to return, as it is based on a world GW destroyed with AoS. Unless they completely re-write it.

      • Mike Tooze

        Actually, when Mordheim was released, it was set a few hundred years before the time line for the warhammer world that was relevent at the time. So the old world being gone makes no difference whatsoever. HH also takes part in the same universe as 40k, but 10k years in the past obviously. I would argue Mordheim was one of the top 3 most popular games that would be included in this specialist games line

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        they may not want to compete with Frostgrave.

        • BeneathALeadMountain

          Sadly I think they are arrogant enough to think that’s a good reason to do it. Brilliant for all of us interested if it does happen though. Set optimism to 11.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            well some nice plastic terrain would benefit both games.

      • Yellow Sigmarine

        Ha yeah…I wish you were wrong 🙂

  • divineauthority

    No email to my local GW manager in the UK. He also said there’s angry people in Nottingham trying to call Australia…

    • Because we all know GW managers have their finger on the pulse of what head office is doing, especially when it could be embarrassing for the company.

  • Manwiththedogs

    If this happens, GW, you get the Lion’s share of my income.

  • BT

    I have the Blood Bowl video game, so I am already pretty happy.

  • Shiwan8

    Well now, this is sweet and sour at the same time. Good bye moneys.

  • Defenestratus

    This is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

  • I think it’s nice for the Aussies to get something. God knows they’ve been paying extra up-front for long enough. 🙂

  • Nobody in GW retails UK appears to have heard anything about this. Take it with a pinch…a bucket of salt.

    • divineauthority

      I’ve now spoken to 3 relatively local GW managers and none have had this supposed email.

  • Danforth Lives

    Dark Future would be nice B-)

  • Painjunky

    Sorry Geedubs. I’m already having a blast playing blood bowl 2 on PC and cant wait to pick up BFG on PC too!

    You had your chance but now they are on PC its too little too late… again.

  • Deacon Ix

    I keep on checking the date, and it’s 5 and a half months early…

  • Jooster

    Necromunda Inquisitor get hyyyype

  • Simonius_P

    Gw is a uk based company. So my question is this, why the hell does every other country find out about stuff first?

  • Graeme Donaldson

    Have to say, while it would be great to see GW help themselves by bringing Blood Bowl and Necromunda back, it doesn’t really fit with their company strategy of shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly.
    It’s the LOTR stuff that makes me suspect this msot however as I was sure GW weren’t renewing the license on this and that was why they were factoring it out and replacing it in stores with Horus Heresy. I’d have assumed that if they don’t renew the license then they can’t produce new models or continue selling the existing ones?

    • Yellow Sigmarine

      I would actually be totally down with LotR getting some serious attention. Such a consistently awesome trilogy fdeserves it. The Hobbit killed the game for me, ironically.

      • Nameless

        In my opinion the Hobbit rules set did a lot of help the game however. more heroic actions and options for monsters (limiting the effectiveness of throwing 1 goblin in front of an Ent each turn).

        • Yellow Sigmarine

          Don’t doubt it. It’s just that the lore and the characters didn’t excite me to the same extent. To me, the Hobbit is an awesome book. And that’s all.

  • The_Illusionist

    Y’know, I kind of suspected that something like this might happen when GW first released Dreadfleet and then rereleased Space Hulk – two ‘Specialist’ games coming out as a single, simple boxed set? A limited release of a one-off game, every other year but to massive applause and enthusiasm? Deep in my heart I had hoped that 2015 would see Blood Bowl or Mordheim (to coincide with the video game releases) and 2017 would get us Necromunda or Warhammer Quest – it seemed so simple that even GW couldn’t screw it up.

    And now, this? All of them, all the time, forever? Please let it be true. Please. I would sell each and every one of my friends to the grubbiest pimp in the universe for a chance to get into an official GW-sponsored Necromunda tournament, or for a shot at the Chaos Cup. 😛

  • two axioms from X-files come to mind:

    “I want to believe” followed by “Trust no one”.

    But I really want to believe, dammit !

  • Erik Setzer

    I can’t believe it yet… I want it to be true, but then I feel like they’ll miss the point and try to overcharge for everything and people will look at Necromunda and a hypothetically cheaper Infinity and just go with Infinity. I’ll withhold praise until I see what they do.

    One thing bothering me if it is true: That “announcement” is dripping with sarcasm. Tom Kirby always sounded bad in his personal remarks in the annual reports, but if you have a company that’s always trying to sound super-serious make a comment like “full of dreams and rainbows,” it comes off sounding less excited and more mocking.

    Also not keen on “EVERY SINGLE HOBBYIST AROUND THE WORLD IS JUMPING UP AND DOWN.” Not every person who plays miniatures games cared about Specialist Games. And for that matter, why “Specialist Product Design Studio?” These are Specialist GAMES. For GAMERS, not “hobbyists.” Don’t rename the damn studio just to keep pushing this BS that you don’t do games and your business isn’t a games company. You’re a freaking company that makes games and produces toy soldiers as game pieces. Sure, they look nice, but at the end of the day, they’re still toys and game pieces, and no amount of name changing will change that.

    • Yellow Sigmarine

      Yeah, you’re very keen on anything are you?

      • Erik Setzer

        I’m keen on plenty. But Specialist Games worked because they were different types of GAMES, not just different model lines (more appropriately: different toy soldier lines). The people who want SG back are GAMERS. Trying to call us something us and wedge us all into this little umbrella of what the Board wants us to be isn’t cool. Understand your freaking market and accept what it is. If they want to make “serious models” they should apply for a job with Tamiya or Dragon. Games Workshop built itself on games and the stuff to play them. Their model line was built up by having fun games. People loved Specialist GAMES. Why is it so hard for them to even say the word games these days? They use the word “games” ONCE in the above (alleged) announcement, after “models” of course. Specialist Games are about the games. Heck, you could play Mordheim with the Warhammer line of figures, making it even more obvious that one was about the game. GorkaMorka’s models were interchangeable with 40K… but people played it to enjoy an Ork-themed Mad Max style GAME.

        So yeah, I’m not keen on them trying to avoid calling us gamers, or talking about games, rather than “product lines.”

  • Corey Bailey

    This is all i ever needed if mordheim comes back

  • translation: “we have realized that our strategies to date have not been sufficiently generating the buzz in the community and so we are attempting a low-cost desperate move to do so. ”

    Hey I was a avid Battlefleet Gothic player this makes me happy, however, the only way that I see is being successful in the long term is if they start actively supporting these games. Give us modern rules that work for BFG please.

    • James Fletcher

      In my opinion, they need to get hold of the community editions of the rules for these games and make them official as around a decade or more has gone into each one to improve upon the original.

      • Chris. K Cook

        Buuut most of them are Goram awful. NCE and Coreheim are both too soft and make it too hard to die Life is cheap in the Underhive/City of the Damned dang it.

        • James Fletcher

          True but both are markedly better than the originals/any other ruleset they have come up with.

          • I do t disagree, but as a BFG player there was never as much fan created material. There were some great projects, but they never were fully realized.

            The two things BFG needs, aside from rebalancing and a modernized version of its rules (fleet games have advanced a LOT in the last 15 years), are more variety between the ships and between weapon systems.

            Several factions [e.g. Space Marines] have virtually 0 variety in their ships, while other have a lot. Making it so that each ship has its own character and special traits increases player options and opens the door for synergy in builds/multiple types of builds. Examples would be to have 1 ship be the chapter armory, another have the chapter reliquary, etc.

            The other glaring problem with the rules system is that nearly all weapons are treated as the same rules wise. While this was a simple approach it became VERY clunky when Xenos factions were added, and there were always inconsistencies. Diversifying the types of weapons available to ships would help make the game more interesting and make it simpler to integrate Xenos factions.

            Ordnance desperately needs an overhaul as well, as does defense. For a game depicting battles which take hours between city sized vessels stuff dies VERY fast in BFG, especially as you scale up in points. Again GW should take pages from their competitor’s books and create a new system for damaging ships which adds complexity but is also simple to implement and track in game, damage cards would be the simplest way to do this (You could also make unique damage decks for each faction, which would help illustrate the difference between durable human and delicate eldar ships.).

            I’d love to see a redesigned reinvisioned BFG, especially with new models (All plastic, modern 3D sculpting methods make it so easy for GW to make some amazing product lines cheaply for BFG.). Sadly I expect we will just see the same old rules sets repackaged without any changes, didn’t BFG come out in ’98?

          • Chris. K Cook

            I disagree. and the LRB versions were mostly fine.

  • Chris. K Cook
    • D. B.

      But keep the Dance of Shame in reserve just in case.

  • If this does indeed happen then this is great news.

  • karloss01

    Even if staff on facebook are saying it’s true, I find myself questioning why they’re bringing back LOTR/Hobbit? I thought interest for those products died after the first trilogy.

    • Tyler Mengel

      To keep the license out of other company’s hands?

  • SundaySilence

    Anyone who believes this needs their head examined. It could be convincing if the line about dreams and rainbows was absent AND you weren’t aware that GW no longer have the license to produce LOTR and it’s spawn.

    • Chris. K Cook

      Are you sure about that?

    • Thomas Gardiner

      Actually, the license has been renewed for another 5 years.

    • ScubaSteve89

      They renewed the licence and the emails are now with UK stores.

  • Boondox

    If it is true then I wonder if AoS had anything to do with the re-re-release of the Specialist Games? Seems like these games would bring back a lot of the folks they lost to AoS and also bring in some much needed revenue.

    • Chris. K Cook

      And that they realised they had yielded to their competition game formats that they had either dominated in the past or even invented in the case of Fantasy Sports Mini Games.

  • Boondox

    I’m not buying this. America and Australia are ALWAYS the last to hear about anything. All public relations for new games go through GW Nottingham and the entire company makes the announcement at the same time. Plus look at the roll outs for AoS and BaC. Weeks of “suspenseful” waiting before they issued the game across the entire company. GW has it’s flaws but they’re not going to screw the pooch by hyping the Specialist Games using a handful of one page flyers at a few stores that are as far from Nottingham as you can get.

    • Chris. K Cook

      New Broom…

    • D. B.

      GW Australia runs by different laws. They have actually released some kits in the past which, apparently, were not authorised by GW HQ. So what happens is anybody’s guess.

      • euansmith

        Where would they get the kits from? I thought all GW stuff came out of Nottingham and Shenzhen.

        • D. B.

          No idea. But, as Bill Bryson put it: “This is a country that loses a prime minister and
          that is so vast and empty that a band of amateur enthusiasts could conceivably
          set off the world’s first nongovernmental atomic bomb on its mainland and almost
          four years would pass before anyone noticed.” So, your guess is as good as mine. But here’s a link to pics of those mystery kits for your enjoyment: http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/GW_Australia_-_Limited_Release

          • euansmith

            “The world’s first nongovernmental atomic bomb…”, was that Aum Shinrikyo? I read “Cult at the End of the World” and back then there was talk of a microwave weapon.

          • D. B.

            The Banjawarn Station incident (where Omu Shinrikiyo did indeed have property to test their attemps at creating sarin) was most likely caused by a meteor exploding in the lower atmosphere and sending fiery shockwaves through the air.

            The “atomic bomb” theory was circulated a while back, but people tend towards the less spectacular meteor. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjawarn_Station

          • euansmith

            Once again, thanks for the link. Australia has such great names.

          • euansmith

            Thanks for the link. Those kits look very much like homegrown resin product.

  • Boondox

    How could they release Mordheim when ye Olde World is dead? Or would they put the AoS spin on it? That would be awful…

    • Muninwing

      they are releasing a computer game for it… and total war has done old world just recently too.

      it seems that they sold license rights to the games before announcing their own nuke.

      so… what option do they have? it still exists in a pre-ET capacity. not unlike the 30k/HH world exists in a pre-Empy-death capacity where we know what happens after.

  • Deathwing

    Until I see the official announcement that looks like its from the GW corporate marketing team I will not hold my breath.
    I will however call the commodores and captains of my BFG fleet and tell them they may want to start on getting back in shape just to be safe.
    I wonder if they could support warhammer 8.5 too =P

  • Nathan Kunicki

    I popped into my local store at lunch today and asked about this, and was told it’s categorically not true.

    The email definitely EXISTS, but what it says is something along the lines of GW will be creating a new Specialist section, which The Hobbit and LotR will be moving to. (My interpretation: Being placed on “life support”)

    He queried it with his regional manager this morning who stated that the respective managers who posted the flyer above completely misinterpreted the email as being “The return of Specialist Games!!!”, and will be getting a stern talking to. GW HQ itself is going nuts over it.

  • Corsair6

    I have been toying with other systems like Hail Caesar for a use for my LOTR Rohan force (not like anyone I know plays either system) as a way to make the models relevant for gaming. May not need to anymore, which is nice

    I would like to get a look at Epic. It went out of vogue shortly after I was introduced to GW I would like to see if it is updated to align more with the current 40K rule set; thus making it a more manageable and affordable Apocolypse.

  • Ira Clements

    If this were true it would be pretty cool to see the return of Epic and Mordheim and Necromunda and others. However……..hoaxes like this are rampant.

  • Aaron Ridgley

    I just read that this is indeed a hoax.

    • Thomas Gardiner

      Two rumourmongers with near 100% accuracy are confirming that it’s real.

      • WellSpokenMan

        I can believe that they have made a studio, but I have doubts about all those games being given the resources to come back. GW can’t manage the resources to playtest or proofread a codex. My guess is that they will bring games back one by one, using the same general time scale they are using to release Sisters of Battle codexes.

        • ScubaSteve89

          It’s not GW, it’s FW taking over.

          • WellSpokenMan

            Oh, so these won’t be available in the stores that are advertising it? That makes it seem even more far fetched.

    • ScubaSteve89
      • Aaron Ridgley

        If it is on Facebook it must be true.

  • Thatroubleshootah

    As others have said I already am heavily invested in dropzone commander, firestorm armada, and frostgrave and am about to buy a bunch of infinity figs used for cheap. If, and it’s a big if, gw releases mordheim and necromunda and bfg i might buy them but only if they are priced competitively with other games and are as good. I will never pay thirty bucks for one inch high little man.

    That said i doubt this will happen because as another poster pointed out it would run counter to the gw strategy of pulling the pin and then sitting on the grenade-always.

    • amaximus167

      I would love to get some BFG and Epic. However I am hearing that DZC knocks them both out of the water.

      • ScubaSteve89

        It does in my opinion. But that’s an opinion.

      • Thatroubleshootah

        Never played bfg or epic but love dzc

  • benn grimm

    Interesting development. Look forward to hearing more.

  • Halonic

    Now confirmed in UK by GW: Norwich on FB

    • Deacon Ix

      lol beat me to it

      • I don’t see anything on their page…

        • Deacon Ix

          Look in the visitor posts on the LHS – some one asks and GW confirms,

          Hunter HavardToday at 13:39

          Any truth in the news coming in from GW Australia with bloodbowl, BFG, Necromunda and other old titles being rebooted. This makes us oldhammerists very happy and I look forward to a rehash of “Oi dats my leg” if it’s true of course

          Games Workshop: Norwich Quite simply, yes, but not for a while, the team to accomplish this hasn’t been recruited yet so we’re looking at a good 6 months before this happens, if not longer.

          • Good call, sir. Thanks, and holy crap I don’t know what to think about all this!

        • Thatroubleshootah

          neither do i

    • Deacon Ix

      Screen Shot

    • Deacon Ix

      And it’s ok, I’m currently eating lunch

    • Deacon Ix
  • zeno666

    I guess the alarm went of in GW HQ.
    In their world people would stop playing games if they stopped producing it and supporting it.
    But now one of their IT-guys found out on the internet that people are actually having fun with these games still, and are even producing their own expansions and minis!
    Yes, yes, for everyone else, this is old news, but we all know how slow GW are on this front. They are probably still using Netscape and Altavista.

    But now GW will be grabbing their IP and sending out those lawyers again, have to crush what people are having fun with! 🙂

    • Sutr

      Are you done guessing?

      • zeno666

        Trust me, I’m not guessing that people are still playing and enjoying these games now that they are “free” from GW.

        • Sutr

          I know, these GW games sure stand the test of time don’t they? I’m interested in BFG myself.

          • zeno666

            Indeed. BFG is one of the best games GW have produced.
            I recently sold my Necron fleet because I got a great offer.
            That guy is probably not that happy to see this 🙂

  • Talarius

    This is my nightmare scenario, if true: (A) they release these classic games with high quality components and without changing the rules in any significant way ala Space Hulk = win (B) they come out with lots of new stuff and change the rules significantly (Dreadfleet?) = lose.

    • Sutr

      How about you look at the products they release , evaluate them and if you don’t like them you don’t buy and stop having nightmares like a normal person?

      • Talarius

        How about GW destroys the stability of the current Blood Bowl community by coming out with a new set of rules that ruins the game? That’s the one thing I care about most. As GW has repeatedly emphasized, they are a miniatures company, not a games company. I have little faith that they will revisit these games and improve them. It could happen, but I’m not optimistic, based on their own assertions. Given that, the potential for them to fracture the community that I’ve enjoyed being a part of (especially SINCE they stopped development of Blood Bowl) seems pretty high. It’d be great to see high-quality miniatures and just reprint the original rules unchanged. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed.

        • Sutr

          Is it not their game? Haven’t they developed it on the 1st place? Aren’t you permited to keep using wichever rules version you want? If you actualy play the game shouldn’t you be rejoycing over the potential new players, models and rules?

          I realy don’t get this stance of some people.

        • standardleft

          there’s a blood bowl community?

          • Commissar Molotov

            It thrives among old farts like us – especially during NFL football season. I suspect it’s more popular in the US than UK, though.

        • Blood Bowl has the biggest organized comunity of all specialist games.
          http://member.thenaf.net
          22.000 registered players. At the Worldcup last weekend in Italy there were 900 players plaing Blood Bowl.

          • Talarius

            Exactly. Given the organized group the NAF is today, I’d strongly prefer GW doesn’t touch the rules and just releases nice new miniatures. No “re-vamping” on the printed rules thankyouverymuch. 🙂

  • Alex Simmonds

    GW Peterborough (UK) are now confirming these rumours – Saying it’s going to be done by… wait for it… FORGEWORLD!
    Go check out the facebook page for GW Peterborough.

  • Francisco A. Correa Miramontes

    I sent an email to GW and they responded this: Thank you for writing in to us! Yes, we are looking into specialist
    games, but we don’t know when or what the product will be like. We
    recommend that you keep an eye on our website for further news.

  • gordon ashacker

    What about WFB?

  • Noridaii

    I think one of the problem is that might be too late. There are lots of really good games with great models and tight rule-sets out there at the moment covering most of those bases. GW could have had it all had they maintained those games and supported them, but now people over the last decades have unsurprisingly moved on. Once the first flush of nostalgia has passed, they are going to have to have some amazing models and rules to keep customers. We know GW can do the former. The latter – not so much.

    • ChubToad

      People moved on because those games died not because those games were bad. And we all know what happens when your ex comes to your door wearing only a furcoat in the middle of the night…

  • marsultor

    Maybe the real test is if they acknowledge and bring back Squats to Epic…that would be a REAL change of heart worth noting.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Squats are dead and gone.

      Demiurg however…

  • Benoit Tremblay

    Am I the only one who’s been refreshing the BolS main page for a confirmation/denial of THIS all day?

    • thirdman

      Apparently its on the official GW app now

      • Emprah

        Well there is a big BFG title coming out to the PC soon, so I can see why the would reboot it. But than again there was a game coming out for WHFB too.

  • Mark Gerow

    I WANT TO BELIEVE.

    Hopefully if they take another crack at BFG they’ll make the mechanics less punitive (weapon battery table results always being lower than your base stat, failing a command check locks you out from other command checks for the rest of the turn, etc).

  • StingrayP226

    I wonder why people bother… most of these niches have been exploited by other companies. Companies that actually try communicating with their fans, and try to make good rule sets and balance (and playtest).

    Also yes GW might be bringing these back but they let them die once whose says they will not let them die again. This might be just a flash in the pan release that results in little to no support effectively killing it later. Meanwhile most of the competition will continue to support their games making them the safer bet.

    BFG alone has Star Wars Armada, Firestorm Armada, Halo Fleet Battles, and soon Dropship Commander to compete against. Also its a very safe bet FFG, Spartan Games, and Hawk Games will not stop support any time soon for these systems while GW its impossible to tell.

    I just find it baffling that so much excitement is being spun up about GW remaking their specialist games when they killed them off years ago once, and currently their main game is a rule/balance nightmare. While there are current games with solid rules/ideas whose owning companies show vast interest in insuring their game continues for as long as the company can make even a little money from them.

    • Emprah

      It is all about the IP.

      All but one of those games is nothing compared to 40k.

      But Star Wars outshines 40k the way 40k outshines the rest.

  • Seb

    God I hope so.

    The fact that competitors and kickstarters that even vaguely created similar products since, have been very successful, says these games are heavily sought after still.

    Single biggest issue will be pricing, there are good offers out there for scenery and alternate figures; this will die in infancy if they don’t go in competitvely.

    If they had never shutdown Specialist, I suspect they would still dominate the market today.

  • Vomkrieg

    Asked my local store, they posted this. Apparently from the “warhammer app”
    https://www.facebook.com/GamesWorkshopWellington/photos/p.1013520232003795/1013520232003795/?type=3&theater

    • Vomkrieg

      “Revamping” is my favourite word in this. Re-releasing wouldn’t do much for me, but a spruce up of the games would be great.

  • gordon ashacker

    WFB????

  • Ross Gustafson

    If Battlefleet Gothic returns physically in the store on online stores, I will cry tears of joy!

  • Hedwerx

    We want Epic-Titan Legions/Space Marine not %&$*ing Armageddon.