40k End Times Starting With The Wulfen?

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40k’s Storyline is progressing with these new campaign books.  Look what was spotted about 40k’s End Times in White Dwarf!

Portents of the End Times

First let’s take a walk down memory lane via Lexicanum:

“Listen closely Brothers, for my life’s breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying. Then my children, I shall list’n for your call from whatever realms of death hold me, and come I shall no-matter what laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime.”
~Primarch Leman Russ – before his final departure into the Eye of Terror

And here’s a self summary of other ongoing plot times from various codex and supplements:

  • A figure in Golden Armor appears at the Golden Throne of the Emperor (Dante chapter master of the Blood Angels believes this to be him).
  • Cypher, Master of the Fallen treks out to the Golden Throne allegedly to receive the Emperor’s Forgiveness.
  • The Mechanicus reaches out to the Dark Eldar for help fixing the Golden Throne which may be failing.
  • Asdrubael Vect learns the wards locking a very troublesome webway portal deep within Commorragh are failing.
  • Deep within the Librarium Daemonic on Titan, something is stirring…
  • The Angel of Iyanden secretly plots to awaken Ynnead the God of the Dead to battle the Chaos God Slaanesh. Her plan may involve sundering the soul stones of all Eldar both dead and living.
  • A key is spotted locked away in the vaults of Titan that matches only one socket. It’s only known receptacle is part of the Golden Throne itself on Terra.
  • Bel’akor surprise attacks the Imperial Fist’s Phalanx in Terran orbit and tries to fire it’s own guns on the Imperial Palace. He is thwarted by the ships emergency translation into the Warp where the battle rages currently.

The Wolftime Draws Near…

And now we get this from White Dwarf 105:

Via  Table Top Network 2-17-2016

 

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Which translates roughly to:

“It’s True the End Times Draw Near. The Wulfen can strike out of the Warp anywhere in the galaxy to fight alongside their brothers. 

Their savagery infects their Space Wolf Brothers….”

So it appears the Wulfen may have figure out how to emerge from outside the Eye of Terror and other “blighted” regions perhaps ushering in the End Times (Wolftime) that the Space Wolves themselves have foreseen.

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The Ravening Jaw in Fenrisian mythology symbolizes the Wolftime, when Morkai will eat the sun and the stars and shroud Fenris in an eternal night.

… At the end I will be there. For the final battle. For the Wolftime. ~Leman Russ

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Question is, will the new Space Wolves get the Kauyon type treatment of a Campaign book and a new codex?

For Russ, and the Emperor!

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  • TweetleBeetle

    For crying out loud. They aren’t doing an End Times to 40k. 40k is always in the End Times.

    • Ronin

      I chuckled at this.

    • Edouard Decaen

      Hell Yeah !!

    • StingrayP226

      I was going to say the same thing actually… Until a book series labeled End Times for 40k is released I will just assume any suggestions is just business as usual to make 40k sound super grim and dark… and grim!

      Actually if a book said: And there was Great hope and Joy for all then ya its time to freak out about an End Times…

      • Muninwing

        i don’t really get the appeal of all the bad things happening at once. being on a galactic scale means that dealing with all sorts of problems is a regular thing, not a sudden conflux of terrible.

        i’d rather see piecemeal resolution that actually brought each individual mess to a new place, rather than “and then the skies opened up, the emperor came back, everyone wrecked face, and now we feed you a crappy game that isn’t what you used to play or why you bought your models and somehow expect you to not choke on it.”

    • aka_mythos

      We’ve been perpetually in the “End Times” since the last time we saw the Wulfen and the 13th Black Crusade global campaign that ended with Chaos getting a significant naval foothold in the Imperium.

      What I think is silly is the notion that it has to “end” anything, when it can simply shake things up.

      • ieyke

        Which hasn’t actually happened yet….
        The Eye Of Terror Campaign is in the future of 40k that current 40k has rewound back from.
        The current time in the Dark Millennium is JUST before the EOTand the 13th Black Crusade.
        That’s why the Relictirs haven’t been branded as Renegades and had half of their Marines wiped out by the Grey Knights yet. It’s why Eldrad Ulthran is still alive and hasn’t had his soul eaten by Slaanesh possessing a Blacstone Fortress yet. Etc etc etc etc etc

        Soooo…..the Wulfen showing up is just par for the course of FINALLY progressing the current timeline to catch up with the Eye Of Terror events.

        Any day now Altansar will reappear from the Eye Of Terror, and Mugan Ra will return to his home Craftworld.

        • Muninwing

          what’s really sad is that the whole concept of “end times” in 40k
          – would be stupid, for everything to happen at once
          – is really just the Eye of Terror campaign, meaning that without a huge retcon we already know what happens
          – is wholly built upon the same logic that made people convinced that Y2K would
          be the end of the world

          but Rob “Drudge Report” Baer muckrakes with the best of them to generate clicks, what with this and with his “slaanesh is dead!” nonsense.

          yes, EoT is next. yes, advancing the plot means dealing with that. yes, also, advancing the plot means dealing with what happens into M42… meaning that just like 20th century fox changed their name at the advent of a new millennium, GW would have to change the name of 40k — except that’s not at all what happened (though their parent group changed, the movie studio is still names for the past).

          but read the fluff.

          Ciaphas Cain? alive well into M42, retires, writes his memoirs, which are annotated by an Inquisitor. he is not pressed to train mass volumes of Commissars due to an end-times-style all-out war. the Inquisitor (Ordo Xenos, no less), isn’t too busy dealing with a cataclysm to have the time to write. and nowhere in the books is there an indication that the changeover from M41 to M42 is a sign of the end.

          except for rob. so just don’t be like rob.

          WHF ET was a one-year blitz of lost opportunities and desperation. AoS is not performing as hoped, though “within acceptable levels,” and we have no idea of their “out with the old, in with the new” strategy (with games as well as with players) was a successful gamble (though many indicators point to no).

          it would be foolish to rush into such a thing again.

          • WellSpokenMan

            I’ll be interested in seeing if this gets deleted. I poked fun at Rob once and the mods didn’t like it one bit.

          • Muninwing

            i’m not trying to be a jerk. but between the slaanesh conspiracy theories and ‘ZOMG 40k endtimes!” there’s only so much patience for badly-written theories i have.

            it’s a quality issue too. i can avoid his site, whit its similar bent of nonsense, but sometimes i forget to check author names and expect credible articles, and get disappointed with BoLS for lowering their standards.

            so if i’m being unduly offensive, i’ll apologize. but as it stands, every time i read one of his conspiracy theory articles i feel he owes me an apology.

          • GRex

            I recently had a post deleted for pointing out that Rob just post’s article to feed you to the his podcast.

          • ieyke

            End Times was Warhammer at its best, and it was just a blip on the radar before they blew it up and replaced it with the Age Of Stupid.

        • Cylux

          Altansar’s already out. The retcon there was to make WHEN it was rescued from the eye of terror a lot more vague than the previous ‘during the 13th Black Crusade’.

    • vlad78

      Prepared to be disavowed. Funnily End times 40k would work in a much more satisfying way than what End Times WFB which were a disaster.

      the galaxy would probably still exist, the major factions would probably still be there and there woudln’t be such 9 realms nonsense.

      The problem lies now with the changes in GHW aesthetic which really have been for the worse for the last 5-8 years (than you CAD design) and GW’s eternal sins, overpriced products, poor rules, poorly balanced codicies and since most of the old guard had left, lack of writing skillls.

      • Muninwing

        honestly, cleaning up the EoT and fitting it into the current fluff, along with all the little teasers that they’ve planted, would not be an “End Times” so much as a new edition.

        no factions need to disappear. a couple worlds, perhaps. but no big changes would need to happen… at least nothing past what the Damocles Gulf stuff has recently entailed.

        though, hopefully, with better writing.

        so i don’t understand the obsession with “advancing the timeline” that some people have.

        • SIA

          If the time line never advances than everything just gets stale, its like why has it been on the edge of destruction for all these years with nothing actually ever happening? It also devalues the sense of doom and urgency if it has been this close to ending for so long but hasn’t than why should we care or expect anything different? That is my opinion at least

          • Muninwing

            again… why?

            nobody asks why they haven’t “advanced the plot” of Flames of War, yet people still play it. it hasn’t “gotten stale.”

            the bigger issue is that i protest the absurd notion that “advancing the plot” means “ZOMG END TIMES 40k AND A NEW GAAME!”

            that’s stupid on many levels. 40k is their cash cow. all the veterans that left when AoS broke their game would pale in comparison to the mass exodus that they’d create.

            if they are going to “advance the plot” they can do so without being foolish.

            they might need to attract better writers to pull it off well, though. or at least stop the admin/exec/sales from interfering with what the creative team is developing. or, really, both.

            imagine for a moment the following:

            1. GW announces that in a year, “times will be changing” and that every army will receive small updates and proper FAQs during this time.

            2. then, they deliver. new models, new formations, new ways of playing that mirror the old ones that have been passed over (like the new IG rules that bring back a type of Armored Company effectively, etc).

            also… and this cannot be stressed enough since GW doesn’t seem to understand its importance: make the game better balanced and more playable… even if it means changing the points metric to be a little more regular, instead of the kludge-system they use now.

            3. in a year, after we see all the things we want — plastic Sisters with a new codex, AdMech/Skitarii with combined rules, playable Chaos, etc etc ad nauseum — they release a second statement:

            – Eye of Terror was a nightmare of the future that Eldarad received as a prophecy
            – Chaos is coming
            – The Golden Throne’s light flickered, faltered, and lay silent for a full day, then erupted anew
            – all contact with a portion of one segmentum has been lost. Tyranids are suspected.
            – something is stirring
            (“beneath you, it devours”)

            Eldarad sends messages to the Imperium to warn them of the approaching doom.

            3. Announce a new style of worldwide campaign. learn from the messes of Nemesis Crown, EoT, and Medusa V. also learn from FoW, who did a rather successful summer tournament with inline reporting. break new ground for players with an online system to create and organize “Crusade Leagues” and report in results. publish new missions, new playstyles, and other player resources on a regular basis.

            have numerous possible result paths dependent upon results. after a year, announce phase 2.

            4. do a regular event each year (summer?!) in the developing storyline, adding small changes and results each time that push forward plot slowly… have some events set in stone, others alter-able by play results. denote afterward the latter. have content for each faction, including what they have done and where they go next.

            5. do an omnibus afterward that sums up the rules as they are afterward. show the various changes. and then see the new layout for what it is.

            change no bottom-up fundamentals like WHF->AoS (such as replacing 40k with Calth). just update the timeline, create new potential disasters, and expand the realm for new plots and challenges.

            ***

            that’s a big task right there. and while not every aspect need happen (or happen that way), the time involved… and the factions involved… and the inclusiveness involved… and the product of background and game tools involved… and the changes involved (including potentially killing off characters and creating new ones, something that AoS still hasn’t figured out)… all of that will be necessary.

            i don’t think GW knows how to deal with such a large project right now. their design team does not have the morale to pull it off, based on the quality of their last few products. they need to make some changes, find a clear leader, and then go forward with any sort of plan.

      • Muninwing

        we’ll qualify or disagree on the “GW sins” thing, and aesthetics… but essentially you’re right on a new move forward.

        • DeadlyYellow

          It hasn’t been as bad since they shifted focus of the Stormcast. Actually kinda like a lot of the Bloodbound, and the Carnival Dwarves are fairly interesting.

          • Muninwing

            the Stormcast are such a failed opportunity.

            they’re all heroes… of what? of where? what do they stand for? what happened to the places they came down to save? what did the local people/authorities do when these demigodlike figures set up celestial martial law in their land/territory?

            i suppose if they’d actually had a fully coherent setting that might have been different.

            they may just pull it together, but doing so little with setting for so long has cost them players, and will make them have to work harder to get them back.

      • blackbloodshaman

        they could stuff everyonr into the webway

    • Valeli

      I remember when I played Fantasy, and we all thought the idea of that being squatted for a new skirmish system with four pages of rules and no (inherent) balance was a laughable joke too…..

      Just saying.

      • Muninwing

        and i remember when people used to play WHF. before 8th made the game stupid.

    • Gridloc

      But with AoS selling as well as it has according to your posts, wouldn’t this be smart to switch 40k to AoS format? AoS > fantasy, 40koS > 40K

      • vlad78

        Indeed, that would be mantic wet dream, especially with the warpath kickstarter funded.

      • Muninwing

        what numbers do you want to use there?

        – GW had effectively drowned WHF, then complained that it wasn’t up to running the marathon.

        – GW has praised 40k for holding up the company, profit-wise, for a while now

        – AoS was “within acceptable ranges” to replace a game that was seen as a failure (when in reality, the company had failed to properly support it). still, that could mean that it was just less of a failure. or that it was less intensively losing money, but still not making any. it could also mean that it was a broad success in very specific markets (taking on new players in certain age ranges or demographics that are expected to increase), and regardless of current state the future is expected to grow.

        – 40k may already have those demographics. or an in to that market. or may have a secure enough share of the market that worrying about changing it is not a prudent move… with so many games being skirmish-level, the successes of those may seem appealing… but how many people play 40k because it is not like those others?

        giving up a place of stability to get down in the dirt to duke it out with the others is not a good idea. learning from their successes and implementing them from your position of power is.

  • Xodis

    40K could use a little story progression. I dont expect the AoS treatment, but something similar to the End Times where all the bada$ses of 40K show up and have models would be nice.

    • knightsanguis

      Agreed. I wouldn’t mind seeing some of the loyalist Primarchs return.

      • Xodis

        Dont forget those Deamon Prince Primarchs as well, I can’t see how those CANT sell, even at FW prices.

        • Spacefrisian

          I rather see Daemon Primarchs instead.

          • vlad78

            You serious, 100 pounds for a small miniature and it shall sell?

          • vlad78 …Warlord Titans seems to be selling quite fine and they are 10 times that price, so yes.

          • Talos2

            Probably, we’re at what (?) 75 already for a primarch. Only a matter of time

    • PrimoFederalist

      *sigh* It doesn’t work. You can’t really advance it without completely unbalancing everything. GW can’t satisfactorily thread that needle.

      • PTFO Inspector

        Exactly, like that last article pointed out anyone with talent has left GW. If they try and change too much it’s more likely to just blow up in their face than actually be good.

      • Nathaniel Wright

        ‘completely unbalancing everything’

        Are you serious? Is there some stupid ‘fufufufu’ spittle laugh that we’re not getting there?

        • PrimoFederalist

          See below.

      • Xodis

        I dont agree with that at all. We know that single “battles” actually end up lasting hundreds of years if not more. The greatest battle in the galaxy part 2 could go on for eons. All they have to do is move the pieces, some will stick and some will fail, but its better than another rehash of a rehash.

        • PrimoFederalist

          Xodis and Nathaniel Wright: the threats that 40k has built up in its “10 minutes to midnight” setting are existential. The Hive Fleet tendrils are simply scouts and yet decimate multiple Space Marine chapters. Just a fraction of the Necrontyr have awakened, and they’re not unified. Chaos is on the brink of its largest Black Crusade. The Imperium is crumbling. The Eldar are dying. The Golden Throne is failing, meaning the light of the Astronomicon will go out and humanity will no longer be united.

          You can’t simply advance the plot 200 years focussing on battles and not explain how all of these dire situations didn’t change. If you did, if it is 200.42k and nothing has changed – the Golden Throne is still humming away – all you’ve done is retcon the fluff, changed the date, and done nothing. To actually advance the plot, you’d need the axe to fall. The Golden Throne stops working and the Emperor mysteriously disappears, the largest Hive Fleet ever recorded approaches Terra, the 13th Black Crusade bursts out of the Eye of Terror, Primarchs return, it’s all great – BAM! ZAP! POW! THAT is advancing the plot.

          But like I said, to do that without massively cocking it up is something I have little faith for GW to pull off.

          If all you want are little advances to the storyline and the date to move, you don’t understand the setting. If you want new battles and campaigns, there are *literally* 10,000 years of history that have largely not been touched. There could be a Scouring Campaign for every Astartes legion, loyal and traitor, along with the Dark Mechanicum/Mechanicus allies, Imperial Guard, etc. There could be an Age of Apostasy campaign. The possibilities are endless! But what you don’t seem to get is that advancing the storyline (not shifting the date which is pointless) requires a huge amount of plot threads to be addressed.

          So, again, I vote NO.

          • Muninwing

            1. for the most part i wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, if not always the details, of everything you have said here

            2. i too do not understand the “advancing the plot” argument, since we are talking about a game with so much unexplored in the setting as is

            3. if movement was forward, though…
            – GW could do a better version of the EoT campaign
            – not every problem needs to erupt at once, as it would with End Times nonsense… so each individual problem could be treated separately
            – there is zero reason why the changing of a date should signify the End Times. really, this is just more Y2K nonsense. and i thought geek hobbies were for smart people.

          • PrimoFederalist

            Dude… agree. Let’s hope it all survives the next ten years.

          • Xodis

            No I get that there are a huge amount of plot threads to advance, that’s the point. Advance them. Yes we know its “10 minutes to midnight”, and that worked great for almost 30 years, but its time to see what can happen. My point is that Hive Fleets, Necrons, Black Crusades, etc… are not going to take the Imperium over night. Instead of rehashing battles 1k-10k years ago, which does nothing really because we know all the key players in the end, lets make new battles that matter and that we DONT know the outcome to. Lets bring the Forces of Chaos up to bat with all their little secrets that no one knows about. Lets have Eldar/DEldar play their own selfish roles in battles with Chaos Gods, lets see what the Bugs can do with Chaos in the way and the Imperium somewhat prepared for them. It all makes for a better story than the same thing we have had for years, its not that I dont understand the setting, its that the setting needs to evolve like everything else or it is doomed to be left in the past where it was created.
            If GW can do a great job with it or not is a completely different concern however, but there is either talent there or GW need to hire new “talent”, one way or the other it should sort itself out.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Yeah, I agree. But the story was already advanced before and they retconned it backwards instead of saying a new threat was on the horizon.

            I agree that there is 10k years to redo. They are already setting that up with the Ork “Beast” story line. I imagine they may make a campaign around that. Which would work with the BaC boxes.

            They could do the second largest civil war of the Imperium, the war of faith, schism that lead to the Thorian reformation. That would be cool to have a relaunch of the sisters, and you could have corrupted ones and loyal ones.

            We could have a Tallarn campaign to have another tank war camapign like they had with spearhead.

            etc etc

          • PrimoFederalist

            Look, it is 100% possible to “ADVANCE THE STORY”. However, I do not believe GW will do it without retcon-ing the fluff in which they built up the threat of Chaos, Tyranids, and Necrons while adhering to concerns of the failing Golden Throne and the hope of the returning Primarchs.

            In my own imaginary universe, I have an amazing way to make it all happen. Hopefully, this weekend I will share it, however, it all doesn’t matter unless GW makes it happen. Given the A0S roll-out, most of us rational consumers are very concerns.

            To each his own, mon ami…

          • Severius_Tolluck

            But again, they have already done it! DONE IT ALREADY! They pulled a master reset with 5th, and now things are mixed up and have not been retconned properly to explain how things happened or will happen, Technically Mcragge has yet to happen, except that they rolled back the date.

          • Muninwing

            i’ve been calling for more material — campaigns, army lists, etc — for the Age of Apostasy for a while now.

            the main product they would have to do to make that work? plastic sisters.

            an upgrade sprue for Cadians and you have the armies of Vandire.

            Space marines and some IG remain unchanged.

            many/most xenos (save tau) remain unchanged.

            it’d be really easy to do.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Well Back in the Day GW just thought here’s story in the codexes, you guys work it out and re-enact your fave parts. Sadly so many gamers lack imagination to do it themselves and crave rules for everything. Also doesn’t help the game has become football really. No narrative half the time. I mean a real war would never have balance and such, ask any historical gamer aside myself and they think warhammer is a board game (mediocre at that), which I only agree to that partially. I just love me dice and explosions!

          • Muninwing

            40k is… uniquely situated.

            it’s a wargame. but what does that mean?

            it’s not historical, so it’s not about recreating events that are well documented. at the same time, it includes enough information to be played as such.

            it’s not a board game, so it does not need to be focused on equality or streamlined rules or adaptations for players. but it would do well if it were.

            it’s not a narrative, so it does not need to move forward. but if it does, it can create an interesting atmosphere.

            it’s not an RPG, so it’s not about your character and your army moving through a story or an adventure, but in some ways this is very appealing to a player.

            how much game, system, or narrative do you want in your experience?

            and in the beginning, they really just allowed people to do a mess of all of it — and those who came to the game via D&D, or those who came to it through historicals, and those who came to it through board games, all added something to the mix.

            now, there are also those who come to it through video games, through the novels, through other fluff… and they too make it messier. and there are other games that do certain things better (balance, competitive play, easy pickup, etc) that complicate the market too,

            there’s a certain point where the overlords need to make choices as to what they want to define their own product. GW oddly chose the hobbyist aspect and neglected their game to the point of atrophy — which might not have been a good choice, but it was a choice.

            in reality, they’d be better off putting in the work to effect real change. redefine goals, axe anyone who will not lead them to the goals, and do what they can to attract new talent. they have the muscle and the marketshare to really stir things up if they get their heads on straight.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Oh bang on again sir. I agree. They do need to dictate what they want and expect. With clearly is.defined goals they will have at least hopefully dicated exactly what their demographic

      • DoctorBored

        And yet, that’s exactly what they did with AoS…

        • ZeeLobby

          Which was disastrous. So lets pray that doesn’t happen.

          • Muninwing

            even in hindsight… and even had they decided to go AoS anyway…

            – End Times could have been stretched out for many years, not just blitzed in one, where people were not actively participating in the events because they couldn’t catch up with anything past the fluff

            – Special models and special characters/units for each army could have generated more sales… and more time to adjust to the new style of play and the new kind of game could have been a segue into AoS-style of play

            – an acknowledgment that a major format change was coming would have softened the blow and not made veteran players feel betrayed

            … meaning that other than the gratuitous schadenfreude of seeing those armies you hate get swallowed up, ET really was a commercial failure and a litany of wasted opportunities.

            so why would they do that again?

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Cause GW.

          • Muninwing

            yeah.. the sheer volume of bad management and bad decisions they have perpetuated in the last decade is ridiculous.

            as a general rule, most companies actively try to retain loyal customers, to retain talent, and to rise above fighting other producers for their marketshare. they cultivate innovation and ingenuity in their products, they analyze markets and consumer behaviors and make decisions partially based on the results. they try to distinguish themselves in the market.

            they do not create their own competition. they do not disregard the legitimate concerns of their fans. if a decision might be necessary but unpopular, they clarify it.

            i remember when PP had to up the prices on their ‘jacks. they had started making hollow metal models to save on material, instead of solid ones. they had changed certain production procedures. ultimately, they could not avoid the price increases. they explained all of this in detail to their customers. in comparison, GW price increases are actually pretty consistent, mostly based on inflation, and are irregular in order to save their customers money, but ultimately necessary… yet they have a bad rep for implementing them as they have.

            zero communication means detractors set the narrative.

            there are some clear ideas that would sweep out the cobwebs and improve the company. none of them will occur due to corporate culture. and the bad decisions will continue.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Bang on. I agree 100%

    • benn grimm

      Check out Ahriman Unchanged for a bit of plot advancement.

      • ieyke

        The books are waaaaay ahead of the rest of the 40k universe a lot of the time.
        40k as a game and Codices is stuck in 999.M41.
        40k as books goes to AT LEAST 016.M42.

        • benn grimm

          Its hard to tell when the events of Unchanged take place, but since the really cool stuff happens in the EOT, it couldve happened at anytime between 35k and 41k tbf.

          • Muninwing

            Ciaphas Cain writes his memoirs well into M42…

            one more reason why the Y2K “date change = end of the world” hysteria is just as stupid now as it was in 1999… or even in 999…

          • benn grimm

            Really? So is that 200 years later or 2000 years later? Need to check out more of him, I like the Flashman in space vibe. I mean yeah, to me they have millenia to play with and more, I don’t see why the story has to limited to a very specific time frame particularly.

          • Muninwing

            i’ve been reading the first collection lately, so that’s just what’s on my mind. the date for his memoirs is somewhere in the mid-00x0M42 range, his adventures in the 950-970M41 range, and he’d been a “hero of the imperium” for at least a few decades before that.

      • Xodis

        I have and its great. They are moving in the right direction and should keep it going like this.

        • benn grimm

          Yeah when I was reading it I was getting a bad feeling towards the end, like what can they really do here? They cant kill off Ahriman, maybe they could kill off Magnus? The end completely took me by surprise and was more than I’d ever hoped for. I was uncontrollably grinning for hours after…)

    • Spacefrisian

      GW wouldnt AoS 40k right..right?

      • karloss01

        half of me hopes they do; then we can really see if those that laughed at fantasy players getting upset about the changes will be able to do a better job at coping.

        • eldarconvert .

          completly agree, i’m getting some 40k army ready for sale before they do this crap again

        • Muninwing

          that half of you is the “bad person” half, right?

      • Xodis

        Nah, you dont just blow up your best selling product. I do believe they can and possibly will shake it up however…but thats completely different than the AoS treatment.

      • ChubToad

        If people don’t want it GW would probably do it.

      • Cylux

        I doubt they’d AoS 40K, but they might End Times it. Though this time with the ‘Good Guys’ winning, since that would allow for a fair few changes and alterations, while the setting and factions largely remain the same.

        I mean would anyone really be that bothered if they killed off Abbadon the armless failure?

    • Severius_Tolluck

      Well it was weird they wound back the clock in the first place but retconned in all those advances in technology (although blah blah stc, blah blah, long lost relic, blah)

      I mean they were only encountering tyranids in certain sectors in m42. Some of the books are actually m43. Gets so messy.

      • Xodis

        Yeah, they totally need a continuity director on staff over there.

  • Luca Battisti

    Another brilliant article. Ugh, I didn’t notice the author was Rob before opening it.

    • Muninwing

      we really need a “/sarcasm” font for comments like “brilliant article”

      • nurglespuss

        Obvious sarcasm, is obvious ;p

  • blackbloodshaman

    40k Age of the Emperor is upon us

    • Secundum

      I just realised I made a similar comment above without even reading yours. I guess the community thinks alike on this one. =D

      • WH100M

        There was also a similar comment on the move to toy/model stores.

        Don’t forget that they will also simplify the rules :

        COMPLETE leaked rules for AoE : SM hit anything on 3+, other armies hit
        on 4+. To wound rolls were removed, just roll to save. SM save on 3+ (2+
        termies) other armies save on 5+
        No cost for any unit. No limitations on unit size, number of org chart.

        Also, by other armies I mean : Imperium, Chaos, CSM.
        Eldars, Tau, Orks and ‘Nids have been squatted 😛

        • Ben_S

          They’re clearly not squatting Orks. But maybe the Nids will eat themselves…

        • euansmith

          I’m liking those rules.

          • Muninwing

            i wanted to reply with something like “your mom is liking those rules”

            but i was too depressed at the idea that you were serious to joke around like that…

          • euansmith

            Serious? Toy Soldiers, dude!

          • Muninwing

            i’m sure she’s a nice lady. it’s more for effect than insult.

            and i prefer the term “mandolls”

          • euansmith

            I like, “… and the horse you rode in on, buddy!”

    • Drpx

      Age of Calgar.

  • Secundum

    Better bust out your movement trays and prepare to put all your marines on square bases!
    Age of The Emperor is incoming!

    • Nathaniel Wright

      You mean 30k?

      • Secundum

        Uh…No.

        • Nathaniel Wright

          Simplified rules, Emps is running around doing stuff, everyone has the same basic stats with minor tweaks here and there…

          Sorry dude, 30k is our Age of Emperormar.

          • ZeeLobby

            Except 30K expands the normal 40K ruleset with a much larger range of wargear and tactics. It’s anything but “simple”. Formations have complicated 40K, but in a confusing way, not a complex rules way.

          • Nathaniel Wright

            A larger range of wargear which 80% of is shared.

          • ZeeLobby

            which doesn’t invalidate my point. The wargear still introduces mechanics not seen in 40K, while having all the mechanics seen in 40K. The force organization is also more complex, with both allowances and limitations depending on which one you select, with relevant pros/cons. All more depth than 40K has.

  • Boltstein

    Rob Baert Mall Cop is on the case!

  • Commissar Molotov

    Are they actually gonna kill the goose that lays the golden eggs?

    • vlad78

      When the barn is burning and the ship sinking, anything will do.

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        its not quite as bad as that yet.

        • WellSpokenMan

          It’s all about the shareholders. The company can be solid, but if those dividends drop off, management loses their jobs. It’d be different if the company was private or even if it wasn’t from the UK (the US is even worse about this though).

          • Muninwing

            at this point, since management seems to be the source of most of the problems (that and management not retaining talent), maybe they *should* lose their jobs…

          • WellSpokenMan

            Yes, but how much damage will they do trying to save their jobs before they finally go? Desperate people will try stupid things.

          • Muninwing

            yes.

            and you have just summed up my beliefs about why we now have AoS.

  • PTFO Inspector

    If I owned shares in GW I’d be selling them right about now.

  • Gunther Clone C

    Well…I didn’t want to start collecting Space Wolves…buuuuut…my wallet is crying, and I should spoil it.

  • greenskin

    I don’t think this is the beginning of 41K. However, it is only a matter of time before GW completely messes up their IP in a desperate attempt to spur interest. (Centurion warsuits, anyone?) I used to want them to advance the plot so badly. Yet, after what they did to Fantasy, I’m pretty sure they would just horribly mangle the storyline. This is what it feels like to be an aging nerd. In any case, I’m going to start collecting Infinity as a back-up sci-fi universe.

    • Secundum

      I recommend Firestorm myself.

      • Thatroubleshootah

        Firestorm armada is also a fun and reasonably priced game

        • Secundum

          Yeah-speaking of prices, I ordered 6 old-style Relthoza frigates from an online retailer for £6 (forgot the name, but it’s a good one). When they couldn’t find them, they said they’d give me ANYTHING from the Relthoza range they had in stock for the same price. *Clicks most expensive item*
          Can you imagine any GW products doing that, even from an independent stockist?

          • Neal Laxman

            Yeah but that’s the retailer not the game design company.

          • Secundum

            Yeah, but I wouldn’t be surprised if GW actively stops retailers from doing that-in all my time of ordering GW stuff, and it being late/not there/misplaced, that sort of thing never happens.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            GW used to be great about their defects or mispacks. They would give you a whole new one and have you keep the old one. Although some retailers would ask for the old one back and use themselves as prize support. I have complete chimeras because of this, because on would have like two left sides and no right, and another would have two wholes but no treads. My friend Luke even got two carnifexs in a single box and because the weapon he wanted wasn’t in there, they gave him a whole nother carnifex box. He ended up with three! Oh how times have changed.

          • DeadlyYellow

            Best I’ve got from something GW related was a replacement sprue and new complete kit when I found a damaged sprue in one of their boxes.

        • Spacefrisian

          That Gates of Antera something looks nice as well, and it has a certain Rick behind it right?

          • euansmith

            Bolt Action IN SPAAACE! Which I think is a good thing. I’m also looking forward to Bolt Action: 1947 with the Clockwork Goblin designed walkers and the rest.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            yes, that could be very cool. Not all the Antares changes to BA’s rules are that great, I’d be happy to play a sci-fi ish game with the basic rules.

          • euansmith

            Imperial Forces = Germans, Orkz = Russians, Eldar = Italians, Tau = Japanese, Necrons = British, etc…

          • Muninwing

            the fluff for Antares was a little too 70s scifi for me… just something off from what it could have been to really appeal to an audience…

            i hope the game takes off. i’d love to see what it could be if they tightened down the ideas somewhat

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I wish they had just made a good generic sci-fi ruleset that could be used with any fluff. They should have released Antares as an expansion, along with an army book like Mantics with rules for lots of sci-fi races…

          • Hedwerx

            Warlord is GW 2.0 it’s just a lot of people haven’t noticed yet.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            I have, lol it has many of the old guard, and they are starting things the way the old GW did. Before the dark times.

          • Hedwerx

            Warlord don’t really want you using other manufacturers models or models they don’t sell 3rd party with their systems. They also don’t like people using their models for other peoples systems. Or at least they don’t like you talking about it on their forum. I’ve seen threads locked/deleted over it.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Really? That is so like 2005 GW then, the start of the dark times! Strange since half their models they tell you to use perry models since they haven’t sculpted half the crap they talk about! That’s a bummer. They made a whole big thing saying they had the “swappable head system” to mix and match companies and such… tisk tisk tisk. Didn’t take long at all. Maybe some of the bad talent of the midguard went over there too lol!

          • Hedwerx

            The head system is just for their figures, I’ve never seen anything that suggests it’s for other manufacturers figures. The current BA range is too cartoony really to mix in with other peoples figures anyway.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            True that. I lean towards the Perry Figures anyways. Might start up an AfrikaKorps myself!

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            interesting point. They aren’t as good as Mantic for listening to their customers, that’s for sure. Prices are reasonable though.

          • Spiderpope

            Warlord are light years ahead of Mantic. For a start their Trade reps dont beg retailers to contribute to their latest kickstarter.

          • Hedwerx

            While I do have a load of the Bolt Action figures. It does kinda irk me that they bought the company, and then trashed their figures and released the new ones in a totally different style. Seems like they bought it just for the name.

            Just one of many slightly irrational reasons for a wargamer to lose some of their love for a company.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            its so easy to fall out of love…

          • Hedwerx

            They won’t return my phonecalls. I sent them an Instagram pic of me crying, but they just blocked me.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            try putting dog turds through the letterbox, that always works.

          • Muninwing

            that’s actually the danger with science fiction, and really with anything that has a niche audience…

            what appeals to the hardcore fans will often not hit mainstream, and vice versa.

            someone who loves old Bradbury space rocket stories has certain tropes and ideas they love… and aliens with too many consonants in their names and specific technological standards are not necessarily what work for every reader… and trying to rush into them is often a turnoff unless you have a vested interest.

            it’s actually the genius behind what GW has written in the past… their fluff is allegorical and conceptual in ways that appeal to broader audiences while still giving fans what they want. you don’t just create that. you don’t just assume that. it takes talent and hard work.

            it’s why i’m so critical of AoS materials. it seems like GW forgot how to make good fluff, and everyone is handing them a pass.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            40K was part of a whole cultural wave, and the product of a bunch of very unusual people coming together with very liberal management and a lot of leeway yet also a definite focussed aesthetic. It was then developed by people with a slightly more serious mindset who ironed out the weirder aspects. You can’t just engineer something like that!

          • Muninwing

            well… those weird people are still around. but they are just elsewhere.

            and people who take an idea and make it work are still around.

            GW has done what a lot of musicians do… gotten distracted by “the life” and the status quo (that constant request for that one song that was a hit ten years ago). they’re like that sad group that releases music for a generation ago, phoning it in because they forgot what they actually want to be doing. and until they get a burst of creativity or spirit, they will keep crapping out mediocrity and riding their past popularity.

            as annoying as the beatles in the post-sitar era were, they settled down and experimented and re-found themselves.
            in comparison, what has metallica done that was actually worth listening to since their black album?

            new blood, new aesthetic, new direction… it’s not always bad. and if you do it right, you can create something worth creating AND not alienate all your fans.

            think of computers.

            in the 80s, if you were into computers, you HAD to learn hardware and software… by the mid 90s, you probably specialized in one… and now you just need a credit card, since they are commonplace and treated as consumer regulars instead of niche market goods. in the 80s, you used whatever operating system was convenient… by the late 90s, you could choose and adapt and build upon the past… but the average person still wanted something easy (like windows) that they could use out of the box without learning any of that.

            GW had the oddities and the craziness of the emerging newness… then they had the tightening and creation of the more advanced product… and now they need to discover a way to commonplace and define their product, instead of allowing their competitors to do so.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            It doesn’t grip me yet, I am waiting to see what they do. Warlord loves campaign books as well, so more may be down the pipe. I think the blue skinned guys look ok, maybe the freemen? The concord I do not like what soever, so bland and they look like buzz light year! The ghrax, (sp?) Kinda are neat on one hand, and silly on the other. Again, I think I just need to let the game blossom. Rome wasn’t built in a night after all.

    • Thatroubleshootah

      Infinity is good fun and you only need about fifteen minis or so for a 300 pt list

      • Spacefrisian

        And than comes the hefty amount of terrain you need.

        • vlad78

          Which you can use in any game.

        • Dave

          And is pretty cheap. I don’t play but scenery (themed for infinity) seems to be everywhere and rather cheap for what you get.

        • WellSpokenMan

          For the price of a 40k codex and BRB, you can get a table of Infinity terrain, if you know where to look. Our group has pooled all the cardboard starters into one big box that new players can use.

      • Muninwing

        yes.

        if you want to play a skirmish game.

        not everyone wants that.

        • WellSpokenMan

          I’m not sure you will see another game with 40k’s size done in 28mm.

          • Muninwing

            meaning that giving it the AoS treatment would put me out of GW’s hands as a customer.

            i might not burn my army and whine about it on youtube, but i certainly would sell off everything and take up some other hobby.

            or just get into Bolt Action.

            or save my money and do something constructive.

            because i don’t particularly like skirmish games. and had i wanted to play a skirmish fantasy game, i’d have bought models and rules for one, not digging into WHF instead. so AoS is already an insult to me as a customer, and Ao40k would be the nail in the coffin.

          • WellSpokenMan

            Fantasy was the best place for large battles really. Having 28mm tanks shooting it out on a 4’x6′ board is really kind of silly. Hopefully, they just fix 40k and make it scalable somehow, instead of reinventing it as a skirmish game.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      I agree. Its Bolt Action for my backup.

    • WellSpokenMan

      Everybody should have a backup game or 3. Games sometimes jump the shark, whether it’s BattleTech or Warhammer Fantasy, or whatever. Having a back up really helps when you’ve lost that lovin’ feelin’ toward your favorite game.

      Personally, 40k is my back up to Infinity.

  • Andrew Thomas

    I didn’t know lyres came in contrabass.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      I can make you one. Saxon lyre? Germanic? Bowed, plucked?

  • BloodAngel

    I think we have seen from how much they already have milked everything happening during the Heresy into 30+ books, that they can have a million things happening indicating the coming of the End Times without actually reaching it. Basically, the same thing they have been doing since the beginning.

  • Dan Wilson

    Sounds awesome to be honest. HH is one of the most sprawling and deepest translations of Milton’s Paradise Lost. The next logical step is a Paradise Regained sort of set up… I’m enthused by the greater involvement of Dark Eldar… Might signal sorely needed codex updates…?

    • Dan Wilson

      Furthermore I was wondering if the announcement of the prospero campaign book from fw and that Leman Russ was one of the next two primarches out might conveniently coincide with the return of the wulfen from the warp, knowing that Russ went off into the warp too.

    • eldarconvert .

      Translation is probably the wrong word to use there, paradise lost is a classic.

      • Muninwing

        allusion?

        allegory?

  • Bayne MacGregor

    Did people not notice it says ‘war zone fenris’ on what is clearly a two-book campaign?

    Who’se attacking Fenris then?

    • Spacefrisian

      Rubric Marines…again.
      You would think that after being beaten by an outdated Dreadnought, a handfull of Guardlike forces and Servitors they would have learned that the idea of attacking Fenris is plain silly.

      • Loki Nahat

        just as planned

        • Severius_Tolluck

          Hey, that’s my line, er Alpharius’ line. I am most certainly not Alpharius. I’m Alpharius. No, your Alphairus.

      • vlad78

        Older is better in 40K. The word outdated does not exist anymore in low or high gothic.

  • Thomas Gardiner

    I don’t think they are moving to “AoS-ify” 40k but they’d be idiots if they did.

    And as far as “advancing the plot” goes, 40k is not about plot progression. It’s a narrative setting in which you make your own plot advancements by playing games.

    • WH100M

      “they’d be idiots if they did.”

      Not that they really showed they had a clue to what curent players wanted with what they did to AoS. (I’m not saying this is not good to attract new players)
      What is sure, is they won’t take into account what the loyal fan base thinks or wants. They’ll do whatever they want to try to have growth. If that means AoSiffy-ing 40k, they WILL do that, even if it could potentially alienate all.

      • Muninwing

        they were too busy trying to escape blame for mucking up a functional product that the only way to do so was to blame the consumers for not buying said bad product.

        then spitefully created the general opposite of said product to replace what had come before.

        so… someone (plural here) should really be held accountable. but that won’t happen. management culture is pretty well-established in rewarding failures.

        • WH100M

          Exactly, the head management knows they have to get back to growth, but they just don’t have a clue of what made their success. They’ve always claimed they are a niche business, so, they have to please their niche customers if they want success.

          If they don’t, then they need to go to a larger audience, which means lower entry prices to succeed, so less big margins. Rountree believies “our Hobby (modelling, painting, collecting, gaming) is for everyone”, Well, he’s not quite right.

          1. It’s for everyone who can afford it, so larger audience means larger audience that can afford it.
          What they are looking to do with their new toy/model plan in november, seems to be luring new moths to the flames, with cheaper-ish all in one packages with more exposure.
          So they’re not making it more affordable. Also, going volumes has never been their mindset, and they keep stating it in their Annual report, they will not reduce RRP.

          2. “Our” Hobby is for everyone. Well, now a more subjective argument, I concur, is that IMHO, this universe of fascistic humanity may not appeal to everyone (even though it’s still very contemporary when you look at the world nowadays). Here is what I see :
          A. All the ‘funny’ stuff in the writing that was coming with it in the beginning and made the universe a good laugh while also a critiscism disappeared. It lost the parodic/sarcastic effect, mostly everything is told from a fascistic human empire POV or revolves around it.
          B. This is a world that requires to understand grimdark. And grimdark may not appeal to everyone, especially with all the obvious saracstic humor ans criticism gone
          C. There are mostly only white male characters depicted for humans to which to identify
          So, ok, it’s possible some parents don’t care too much what their kids play with. But parents that can afford that kind of hobby to their kids, might likely be careful of what ideas/values are conveyed in the games their kids are playing with.

          So Roundtree’s statement above, is true, taken in the broad sense, but applied to their brand, it believe it’s not. I don’t think the miniature hobby and GW universe hava a that broad audience.

          They are on successful niche, they should cater for the niche customers and listen to them. Not isolate themselves from the community base and try to change to a “everyone will love hat we have to sell”.
          Because that smells like nobody will like what they sell.

          Back to the OP comment, They could very well dynamite 40K lore. NEVER figure out you’ve seen someone’s dumbest move (or most clever). There is ALWAYS worse or better.

          • Muninwing

            you are right… nobody ever went bankrupt counting on the stupidity of others.

            it’s just amazing that they are so ivory towered up there that they cannot see (or at least admit) how bad a job they are doing….

    • Dave

      I agree, but I think a “40k basic” would be cool and support the new model/toy line. They should have left WHFB as is and released AOS as “Fantasy Basic”. Would have been less destructive to the community and they would have had options. If AOS took off , continue to focus on it. If it didn’t, you still had WHFB to work with. Now, it’s AOS or nothing (as far as GW is concerned).

      • Thomas Gardiner

        I’ve always thought that should have been the approach! Entry level rules for newbies and the standard stuff for more experienced players. Like changing difficulty on a video game.

  • kaptinscuzgob

    lol prepare your salt

  • Badtucker

    In case bols has ever read the fluff… rather than linking or cut and pasting it from the wiki or lex…. they should know 40k has been sat on the end times for almost as long as the game has existed.
    This news is nothing new.
    The sky ain’t falling

    • euansmith

      Well it is falling… but very slowly… and from a long way up…

  • Jonannes Merker

    “while end times are coming,…” not really “it’s true (!!!)…”

  • Emprah

    While with talent* they could do an Emperor returns, primarchs return and the fighting intensifies plot advancement, without going all AOS on 40k.

    But nope, the Wulfen had been around for a long time. The 13th great company spent the last 11k years fighting. They were not hanging out in the eye, counting the clock and sipping beer for thousands of years.

    *That GW doesn’t have

  • vlad78

    Look at the quality of HH novels and fluff lately. It’s become quite bad.

    End times 40K has huge potential, but I seriously doubt GW has the skills to do it decently.

  • Spiderpope

    The End Times happened to fantasy because sales had plummeted. 40k on the other hand brings in the majority of GWs sales, so a similar reboot would be ridiculous.

  • Captain Raptor

    I’d be all for a 40k end times. Five minutes to midnight has grown pretty stale over the years. Bring back the (surviving) primarchs and let’s see the second siege of Terra!

  • Christie Bryden

    this better have a big release for chaos, maybe the demon primarches kick failadon out bring in archeon (you know you want him) and unleash the legions.

  • Damistar

    I don’t think the AdMech is looking for technical help from the DE, I think they’re looking for how to regenerate the Emperor as the Heamonculi do for their Archons.

  • Boondox

    Would a 40K End Times be so bad? Not a complete nerf of the game like AoS but we’ve been hearing about the return of the Primarch’s for damned near the entire 28+ year history of 40K. I would personally like to see the Primarchs back as a counterbalance to the Chaos Primarchs. They’e doing it in 30K so why not let a few of them back for 40? The Grim Dark got boring a long time ago with everything collapsing. It would be refreshing to have some new life into a tired genre…

    • Shiwan8

      The new life would mean balance and GW has been determined not to give that to us for years now.

      • Boondox

        There’s always a first time? lol.

        • Shiwan8

          “You should try everything but your own family” is a fine guideline for living the life. GW has altered this like this: “You should try everything but doing something reasonable.”

  • eldarconvert .

    End times in fantasy could of raged on for a decade too, too bad it didnt.

  • Shiwan8

    Ok. Let’s assume that this happens. What then? Age of Starchild? Would that even be worse than what we have now? I mean, there is no point playing the game anymore. It’s all about the Eldar and if they are not present it’s all about Tau. The game has in all intents and purposes seized to exist as a meaningful test of skill between 2 gamers. If it’s not that, what is it? Well, the same thing essentially that AoS is.

    So, for all I care, bring on the 40k end of times. This “game” can not get any worse so why not see what the change brings?

  • WellSpokenMan

    I am not rolling my eyes about this like I would have a year ago. If it made the game less plodding and alpha strike dependent, shortened the game time, made the game more immersive, and drove some of the more neckbeardy players away, I’d play it more than I do now. That being said, I don’t think GW has the minerals to do anymore than tweak 40k.

  • Defenestratus

    There were hints dropped in the Harlequin codex as well.

  • Corpsepile

    omg i just want to play warhammer…

    please GW please don’t throw another curve ball putting me years behind in progress and motivation like Age of Sigmar…..
    PLEASE…. i almost have playable army… please please please

  • Jonathan B.

    “Ermigerd, the sky is falling!” – Rob “Doom and Gloom” Baer

  • sloth42

    who knows it may balance 40k out again if there were an end times series, WFB became that insidious AoS, but as a die hard WFB player for over 15yrs i have been dabbling with AoS and find it extremely fun, removed are the personalities that tore the game apart, using loop holes in the rules to win games, or the personalised army lists that could tear through a specific army. No longer can Archaon and a unit of knights table the opposing player (as i keep finding out, not tried the new badass archaon yet) and for those that say there no tactics anymore need for strategy i can confirm how horribly wrong you are, there is a little bit of thought as to how you work around things.

    Point being if 40k were to recieve an end times scenario and it have a new game brought out in its stead, it would surley reflect AoS and bring balance back to the game

  • Hedwerx

    BoLS puts out a speculative opinion piece and a big chunk of the community here talks like it’s actually true. It’s so funny I could cry.

    • WellSpokenMan

      The people who think the game has gone stale want it to be true, the AoS fans want it to be true, the people who just want to see the world burn want it to be true, and the drama queens that like to freak out over every little thing want it to be true, so it generates clicks. I’d like to think that most of the people here are speaking hypothetically though, like what would you do during a zombie apocalypse or something.

      • Hedwerx

        I hope so. Like people have stated above, end times for 40k would be totally different to WHFB. What would the post end time be? Necrons and Tyranids fighting for the scraps of the galaxy?

        I like AoS I don’t want it to be true. 40K might need streamlining. It doesn’t need killing off.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        It’s like hardcore Christians want the Church of Solomon rebuilt and the rapture to occur to ease their fears they may be wrong about creationism versus evolution!

  • Mickey

    If they do this, I’m going to do something very similiar to that WFB player from Australia.

  • Talos2

    So it starts. warscrolls by the end of the year?

    • Matthew Pomeroy

      It would take a truly vile cretin to make 40k worse than AoS for fluff. Where they could dig up such a literary hooligan is beyond me…but if I had to guess, a clone template combining mat ward, mike mearls, jervis johnson, and nick kyme.

  • greg coltman

    Well we’ve got Calth’s 30K box set out… we might end up losing 40k and getting 50K… The Emperor may still be around…

  • Drew_Da_Destroya

    “The Mechanicus reaches out to the Dark Eldar for help fixing the Golden Throne which may be failing.”

    What the hell? What book was this in? Why would anyone reach out to the Dark Eldar for anything? Even ignoring that they’ll torture-bang you to excruciating death, their rules are terrible!

  • As long as this supposed “end times” doesn’t turn out in a crapfest a la AoS. Heck, I wouldn’t say no to a warscrolls system as log as they don’t mess up the system like they did for Warhammer.

  • Deacon Ix

    “Citation Needed”

    Would love some references for the ongoing plot summaries, not to pick holes but to read them for myself…

  • Robomummy

    BoLS, please stop with your 40k end times obsession. If it happens it happens but posting decades old fluff as some sort of new development is just annoying. 40k exists perpetually in the end times, the phrase in the picture has no more meaning than dramatic effect.

  • Christopher Schulz

    The translation is wrong.

    “While the End Times draws near, the Wulfen break out of the Warp everywhere in the galaxy to fight alongside their brethren.

    Their savagery infects their Space Wolf Brothers….”

  • Moose

    Square base warhammer 40k spotted /satire.

  • Michael Gerardi

    Well well well. Could it be 40KAoS coming down the pike? This is going to be fun to watch . . . .

  • SomeoneElseTookDude

    Hopefully the End Times is alluding to a corporate takeover by Hasbro

  • Rob

    Age of Emperor coming? I stopped playing 40K so this is a true troll comment but with the article above about moving into the toy and hobby space………

  • Anggul

    I don’t think they’re seeking the dark eldar to help fix the golden throne. The dark eldar are the undisputed masters of what above all things?

    Soul transference.

    I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t trust Mr. Rakarth or any of the others with the soul of the Emperor.

  • James Tompsett

    Only if this perpetual nonsense ties in with 30k somehow, rebooting bothe timelines.