MUST SEE: GW’s New Steampunk Airship Dwarfs!

HOLY MOLY – there’s a new GW steampunk army headed for a tabletop near you – Kharadron Overlords

We saw the creativity that sent into the transformation of the Warhammer Fantasy Wood Elves into the Age of Sigmar Sylvaneth. Just look at what the Dwarfs have been reimagined as.

The Kharadron Overlords are steampunk Dwarfs Duardin who ply the skies of the 8 realms looking for gold – sky gold!

 

Straight from the convention floor of GAMA in Las Vegas…

GW says:

“Kharadron Overlords – sky-fleets of iron-clad warriors aboard fantastical machines of war armed with powerful aetheric weapons.

They are a proud people and masters of strange alchemical powers. Guided by their Kharardron Code, and long-hidden from the rampaging forces of the Dark Gods, they did not merely survived the Age of Chaos, they thrived.

…every inch of their bodies is clad in armour or complex suits, so as to protect them from the harsh environments found in the magic-infused skies of the Mortal Realms. Their weapons are powered by strange chemical processes, and their airships, while bearing some similarities to the gyrocopters of their ancestors, are clearly powered by a far more powerful and possibly arcane mechanism.”

 

Onto the Minis

Prepare yourselves…

The Battletome

The Airships

The Infantry

The Characters

 

 

This is a 4 wave release throughout April.

~ And they say the Squats are gone… 🙂 How are them apples?

  • Sweet baby Jesus.

    • orionburn

      This was a great article to wake up to this morning. It’s definitely made my day 😀

    • Indeed. I wonder if GW will cross-release these to 40k. I mean, they have gatling-guns, chainswords, power-hammers, etc, etc.

      • orionburn

        Would be awesome! They definitely could be made to work in the 40k verse.

      • Graham Bartram

        I don’t care, I’m going to convert some for my (slightly Xenophrite) Ad-Mech anyway.

      • grim

        squats will never happen. Ever.

        • Severius_Tolluck

          Like the return of GS Cult?

          • grim

            sorry not the same thing said over the years lol.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Eh… pretty much

        • ieyke

          You know squats were reintroduced in the fluff a couple years ago, right?
          They’re no less likely than Genestealer Cults were.

          • grim

            GW straight up said its never going to happen lol

          • ieyke

            And then they reintroduced Squats.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        Squats! Was thinking same thing!

  • Sleeplessknight

    Cool, I like these models but I still don’t want to play AoS. Can someone reverse engineer some WHFB 8th ed rules for these guys? Please?

    • Wtyn

      I think flying airships with crew and maybe heros as well on top would be such a pain in 8th for separate profiles, allocating shooting hits, etc. While there are things I miss from 8th, this would be a very good example of AOS being much easier to just make it work.

      • Nameless

        Neither agreeing or disagreeing with your preference, however in interests of accuracy 8th edition had combined profiles for warmachines and crew rather than separate wounds. using the warmachine’s defenses against ranged and the crew’s for melee.

      • AnomanderRake

        Why? The Lothern Skycutter seemed to work.

        (Honestly I’d expect a bigger problem to be just how terrible chariots were in 8e, with no saves and too-accurate cannons.)

    • Randy Randalman

      Of all the editions of WHFB (which were inferior to AoS anyway), 8th was the worst. Why pick that one?

      • Sleeplessknight

        Because I like it? And my opinion might be different from yours?

        • Alpharius

          What? Someone with a differing opinion? Get him out of here!

          • grim

            I am Alpharius

          • polyquaternium7

            No I am Alpharius and so is my wife!

          • euansmith

            Watch it, Big Nose!

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          seriously though, since you are playing a discontinued game, you have all the editions to choose between. 6th was really excellent, very balanced and good to play, and there is a Ravening Hordes book with basic army lists for all the factions which makes a great fun thing to run a tournament from.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Yeah 6th to me is still my most played version and go to!

          • Malisteen

            6th had great core rules, but the army books were, imo, bland and boring. 8th ed’s core rules were a bloated mess, but the army books were interesting and fun. It’s a difficult trade off. Personally, forced to choose between them, I’d go with 8th, though I can certainly see where others might choose differently.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            The army books were much more balanced in 6th. 8th benefitted from the new big models, but the rules were a mess. Only army I have ever sold was my fantasy Beastmen army because playing it in 8th was utterly unfun.

          • Agent OfBolas

            6th FTW. Still playing it!

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            6th was the peak!

        • Christie Bryden

          so you like the ruleset that killed he game? an unusual taste but as you say people can have different oppinions.

        • Dennis Finan Jr

          naaa, just another crybaby

    • finbikkifin

      They should work fine in any number of generic science fiction skirmish rules.

      I’m not being snarky about them looking like squats more than dwarves, I actually want to get some and use them for cool SF skirmish games. Even the airships look like they could be good.

      • Aezeal

        I know a good game: AoS

        • Nameless

          Incorrect. not that Age of Sigmar is a good game, that is personal preference. However it is most certainly not Science Fiction.

          • Aezeal

            Getting there :D. Good game is more important though.

          • “it is most certainly not Science Fiction.”

            …suddenly I’m not so sure about that anymore…

          • Nameless

            whilst the miniatures do have a science fiction look too them, Science Fiction is a lot more than aesthetics. there are few visual similarities between the Star Trek space ships and Frankenstein’s Monster, however Frankenstein is regarded to be one of the earliest examples of Science Fiction as a genre.

            also the Science part of Science fiction is important and given the complete lack of understanding of Biology shown on the plane of fire (gates of Azir, please tell me if someone has reconted this) where nothing grows, the bad guys are cannibals and the good guys exist without any kinds of food. I’m not willing to accept the idea that the Games workshop design team has a GCSE in Science between them.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Question (1) draw a food web for this ecosystem…

          • Nameless

            speaking of Science, anyone else notice that the ‘balloons’ all have vents? meaning that the air inside the balloon must be somewhere close to atmospheric in composition and pressure. therefore the only logical explanation is that the Duradin must have somehow created lighter than air metals.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            real life hot air balloons have vents too, so that you can come down!

          • Nameless

            A reasonable fair point, however hot air balloons work due to the air inside being heated where as there seems no obvious heating going on. it is possible there could be an internal element to heat the air inside, but that would require a) electricity or possibly a magical equivalent and b) a power source. Point a is open for discussion but none of them appear to be carrying a generator of any kind

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I mean its not trying to be realistic, even if there was a vacuum in those balls they wouldn’t displace enough weight in air for something like this to fly, it would need some sort of anti-gravity. So we have to assume the laws of physics don’t really apply!

          • Aezeal

            Well magic? Some sort of magic potion variant in that balloon thing?

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I guess. Anyhow they look sort of plausible enough for a fantastical setting, and call up the right feeling about the faction, which is whats important.

          • Aezeal

            Alchemical stuff is mentioned in the fluff. In a fantasy world you could presumably have extensive thermodynamic reactions with only small doses of reagents.

          • JdM

            … magic….

          • Severius_Tolluck

            We are talking about sky pirate dwarves that fly through magical space… In a world were gods walk amongst men casting magic and sending people down from thunder bolts.. just saying.. little suspension of disbelief has to be applied. Just as you had to do for all of normal fantasy.

          • euansmith

            I’m thinking they use microscopic faeries to power everything.

          • Ben Martin

            Realmstone, compressed and crystallised magic, has been shown to have anti-gravity properties before (the city of Greywater floated thanks to the stuff), so I’d say they use that as a fuel source, burn it, vent out excess heat, and use the propellers to push and steer. It’s also been shown to power weapons (Again, Greywaters ‘Hurricanums’) which would explain why both the orbs and the weapons are similar. Or i could be overthinking and ‘magic’ could just be the excuse

          • They definitely say on the community page they power things with strange alchemical processes. Probably a mixture of science and magic

          • euansmith

            I’m thinking that, if GW make an attempt to detail the “technology”, it will be more along the lines, of phlogiston, aether or captive air elementals.

          • Aezeal

            Probably oases somewhere.

          • We’ve discussed the topic of how ecosystems work on different realms on the #AoS28 Facebook page, I’ve heard some remarkably creative explanations for how people feed themselves, though none I can recall in detail. They have specifically said Hammerhal Aqshy imports all their food from Ghyran, which is why I’ve focused most of my interest on the intersection between agriculture on the frontiers of human civilization in Ghyran, where the free people are still reclaiming land from the wild, chaos and feral sylvaneth infested forests

          • …did you just try to mansplain the difference between Scifi and Science Fantasy to someone with a Jedi avatar and the handle “Straylight”?

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            true, its neither fantasy nor science fiction, just a bad game in a weird setting.

          • AoS seems to be going for a very high-flying sort of Science Fantasy, where technology and magic have both become so advanced that one is effectively indistinguishable from the other. More Numenera or Dune than Star Wars, really.

          • ieyke

            ProTip: Star Wars and Warhammer 40,000 aren’t Science-Fiction either.
            They’re Science-Fantasy/Space Fantasy.

            WHFB and Age Of Suckmore are most definitely NOT Science-Fiction.

          • Great job missing the joke completely.

          • Drpx

            If you can replace the “science” part with “magic” and it makes the same amount of sense, then it’s not science fiction.

          • Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
            Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from technology.

          • Jared McWilliams

            Pretty sure draigo and Eldar were involved in the current AoS storyline…It’s as much sci Fi as first edition wfb, which is a little bit 😁

          • Nah, that wasn’t draigo, they revealed who it was later

        • Sleeplessknight

          But I come from a bizzaro world where I like terrible games like WHFB 8th ed and dislike good games like AoS.

          • Aezeal

            Well self-knowledge is a good thing. But they are both good games tbh.

        • finbikkifin

          I’ve tried AoS. I don’t like the rules, and haven’t seen any changes to them that appeal to me. I’ll stick to Pulp Alley and a bit of FiveCore, whatever other games I come across that seem fun. Maybe break out Rogue Planet again.

          • Aezeal

            Well… just in case you are wondering why you don’t like AoS: it’s you, not the game. And you are wrong. 😀

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

          • Aezeal

            Resign

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            never! You’ll have to pry my movement trays from my cold dead hands!

          • Aezeal

            You should infinetly risign.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I could, or become a Knight of Faith.

          • Aezeal

            You do not qualify for that.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Who put you in charge of my psyche?

          • Aezeal

            I would be willing to just knock you unconsious btw if that is acceptable… I mean no need for killing over a few movement trays :D….. battery and some broken bones is where I draw the line.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            A bottle of aquavit would do the job 🙂

          • Frank Krifka

            @aezeal:disqus @Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation:disqus

            ::Grabs popcorn::

            please continue

          • Aezeal

            I might be mistaken his intentions… it could be he’s some sort of undead and doesn’t need any treatment to get cold dead hands. However since the undead are an abomination I’d then have to decapitate, stake and burn him.

          • Frank Krifka

            A HOLDOVER!!! KILL IT!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!

          • JdM

            someone should show you the skirmish trays for AOS…. Problem solved!

    • foulestfeesh13 .

      Some of the character models would make great looking engineers and the smallest of those airships could be used as a gyrocopter/ gyrobomber. As for the others I would need more details on them first.

      • Aezeal

        The infantry could be iron breakers.

    • Jennifer Burdoo

      I’m pretty much the opposite – I like the simplicity of AoS and am leaning towards using it to hack 40K instead, as I don’t really like the new fantasy fluff or many of the figures. But rules for Sigmarines with giant bows might work for Space Marines with bolters…

    • Jasko

      8th rulebook has rules for a Dwarven Skyship included. Should be quite easy to use that as the base for the airships here at least.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      haha. Those were my exact thoughts. Wow what amazing minis, I love them. Oh no, they are for AoS, a game I will NEVER play.

      Perhaps Mantic will give them rules for KoW, thats the sort of shameless thing they would do! I might use the infantry for 40K as Squat mercenary Marauders from the IA13 Renegades list.

      • Graham Bartram

        Well GW do keep on telling us that they are a “Miniatures Company”, so if other people make rules for their minis then why should they care?

        • Vicent Martín Bonet

          Because they’ve spent months refering themselves on all official documents/announcements as a games company? Like, the horse is grounded to dust, let the mound be.

          • Graham Bartram

            It twitched. I saw it twitch so it ain’t dead.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          True.

    • versuscorp

      if you prefer to play 9th age
      http://www.the-ninth-age.com/?simple-page/

      Dwarf army has a unit of grudge busters which are zepplins..

      This model is a grudge buster for people like me playing 9th age dwarf army..:))

      I am glad to have such a model…

    • dave long island

      Ah c’mon over into the AoS… Y’know you wanna… 🙂

      • Sleeplessknight

        Not really.

  • LordCastellan Vas

    wow

  • Thedinosaur

    these are incredible.

    • Seienchin

      I know right… I kinda hate and love them at the same time… What am I supposed to feel?

      • Aezeal

        You are supposed to feel that money isn’t important… having multiple of these mini’s THAT is important. It will make you feel better… possibly even happy. Money only weighs down your wallet, it’s not important… mortgage are also overrated.

        • ZeeLobby

          Haha. I KNEW there were subliminal messages in their promo vids!

      • grim

        same! I think they’re just really different its hard to say I like or dislike. Happy with the new AOS stuff tho!

  • Sleeplessknight

    SQUATS LIVE!!!

    • No joke!

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      if only GW would give us 40K rules for these…

      • Dennis J. Pechavar

        Just wait.

      • Vicent Martín Bonet

        You had your chance, now the good stuff will be ours. Have fun with the 29th flavor of power armor.

    • Carey_Mahoney

      Get me some of these robo parrots like that one dwarf has on his shoulder. Every Inquisitor and IG colonel shall have one! Immediately.

  • Baart Groot

    Sweet squat soldiers! I am impressed. Now to think of an army to proxy.

  • Wtyn

    you have to hand it to them, they really have been bringing their A game with AOS with recent releases

  • ruleslawyer
    • Nathaniel Wright

      Those metal beards are weak and puny. Nothing like a REAL metal dwarf’s metal beard.

      • dave long island

        lol…

    • Hawt Dawg

      You actually made a copy joke about THE copy Company?

      You win the internet today!

      • Drpx

        GW vs Mantic, the trial of the century.

    • Aezeal

      Well they can get them back: new and improved :D. They can order on gamesworkshop.com

    • Emprah

      You mean their squats?

    • Carey_Mahoney

      They can go home now.

  • georgelabour

    Now we need some hawkmen.

    For diving.

    Oh, and awesome Queen style rock music!

  • LordCastellan Vas

    I keep going back to these pics. they are absolutely drowing in lovely little mechanical details that look whimsical but also weirdly practical and rugged. beautifully designed. i love the crazy chain-driven drill-hammer. I really can’t imagine how these will fight on the tabletop. the biggest of the airships looks like it has enough firepower for a game of 40k! And how do footsloggers attack an airship dropping bombs on them? can’t wait to find out!

    • orionburn

      Curious to see what the different types of bombs will do. Can easily assume one is a krak type grenade and one’s a pineapple/frag grenade, but want to see what shenanigans the one with the drill does.

      • Stealgaze

        Melta bomb/ armorbane?

    • Aezeal

      In AoS flying just means moving over enemies… they can be attacked by anyone.

    • dave long island

      They can’t. They’ll die like the footsloggers they are, in droves…. lol

  • edendil

    Far out man! Those stunty dudes look great!

    They need to be in 40k as well.

    • benn grimm

      Oh, they will be. )

      • I have plans for these minis and a 30K Imperialis Militia using “Survivors of the Dark Age” and “Abhuman Helots” If Guilliman can come back, so can my Squats.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          thats a good idea. What would you count the airships as?

          • silashand

            Valkyries, Vendettas and Vultures are what I’d proxy them as…

        • benn grimm

          Nice 🙂 I think I’m going to try and fit them in with my Dark Mechanicus somehow, loving that steampunk vibe.

    • zeno666

      The two games will merge soon enough.

      • Drpx

        Wasn’t the WFB technically in the 40k verse back in the oldest fluff?

    • Drpx

      They were once.

  • Randy Randalman

    Full of character, and really detailed sculpts!

    • ZeeLobby

      Really? They kind of look like automatons. I guess if you define character as robot-pose, you’re right. The theme is solid though. And detail is GW’s first, middle and last name these days.

      • CloakingDonkey

        dude… did you not see the balloon dwarf champion? He has a brass tophat and a gun mustache…. What else do you want? 😛

        • ZeeLobby

          Haha. You got me! Yeah, I dunno. I mean I really like the models. They just seem goofy and lifeless though. I definitely wouldn’t paint them in a bronze scheme.

  • SilentPony

    Oh come on now, that’s just silly.

  • Basti Schreyer

    Wow those are crazily, insanely awesome. The details are great and the whole steampunk gadgets look functional. Not just somebody hotgluing cogs to their jackets here,
    Also it seems we got our first chainsword in AoS.
    Well played GW.

  • Aezeal

    I really liked the heavy armor look on old ironbreakers.. not sure u can resist this. But I really do not need a 3th army with only 2, max 3 games a month.

    • Hawt Dawg

      This hobby has nothing to do with how many games you can play but how much you can hoard.

      • Aezeal

        Well I’m not much of a hobbyist.. I’m more a gamer… who cannot play enough.
        But give me a good warscrollbattalion that allows me to keep sylvaneth allegiance and put some dwarves in there and I will buy them (not sure the current sylvaneth one suffices).
        I’m fairly sure that once I’m done with my current models (I actually do paint them but slowly) and there are no releases in Aelf territory that make me want to revive my woodelves (I’m not goign to start a new army.. it’s either woodelves or no aelves I think) I’ll be buying the biggest of them airships.
        Brass and titanium spraycans are what I want to use.

        • Alpharius

          What’s wrong with the current Sylvaneth Warscrol Battalion?
          (That allows 0-2 DUARDIN units)

          • Aezeal

            It’s rules don’t appeal to me.. but I might try it.

  • So… finally Squats?

    • Drpx

      With a $2000 battle train on the way from Forge World.

  • Hawt Dawg

    I need new shorts!

    Over and over again because these have to be the hottest minis I have seen in years.

  • Well now……that’s definitely interesting. And I mean that in a very awesome way

  • BloodRaven

    One of the ballon guys has a chainsword…

  • Karru

    The biggest airship, characters and the Infantry look nice, but those balloon are just silly. It’s nice to see GW get slightly diverted away from just big model units for all armies though.

  • Arthfael

    Actually so techy they could easily be used in 40k. I think the flying dwarf centurion with top hat looks a bit goofy, but the rest is beautiful. Also, the new flying bases for assault units will be in huge demand.

  • Aaditya Rangan

    Wow! These are amazing!

  • Aezeal

    I’m guessing the first infantry guy is a character too?

  • Badgerboy1977

    Absolutely love those guys, really great look and feel to them.

  • So, on one hand, this is probably the strongest step we’ve seen so far to visually divorce Science Fantasy AoS from Tolkien-but-with-skulls WHFB, and that’s good.

    On the other hand, these look SO DIFFERENT from anything else in the range that if I knew nothing about them, I don’t think I’d believe they’re for the same game as the Seraphon, Stormcast, or Sylvaneth.

    I don’t want to call this a brand identity crisis… but it’s kind of feeling like one.

    • To be fair there are a lot of visual links to the late 8th Dwarves. Ref. screws, bombs, helmet designs, shoulder pads.

      They look like the dwarf aesthetic if they developed high Victorian Science FIction level tech

    • Hagwert

      I think that’s the point, GW are trying to put as much IP blue water between themselves and more traditional forms of fantasy as they possibly can .

  • Jennifer Burdoo

    Impressive. I notice one of those guys has a chainsword.

  • Manwiththedogs

    Wow.

  • SirDavideo

    Ah man, I knew the rumours were pointing at sky pirates, but I was really hoping we’d see more traditional. I was hoping these guys would finally get me in to AoS but they haven’t swung me enough.

  • Sonic tooth

    nice science fiction miniatures

  • jexinator

    Now I want a new AOS army

    • Aezeal

      Ok: you can start playing bloodbound then.

  • Carey_Mahoney

    WHAAAAAT????? If you ask me, this is the best stuff GW released for many, many years. Incredible!!!

    Squats are back in town!!!

    • Aezeal

      It’s good.. and you might like the aesthetic.. but I think my Sylvaneth (every model in there) are JUST AS AWESOME.

      • Carey_Mahoney

        With what not only GW, but also many other companies are releasing for a couple of years now, I am certain that we live in absolutely the best times for miniature collectors that have ever been. That includes off course all the possibilities of converting etc.
        That means for wallets and private bank accounts, these are times of famine and starvation, though. Muahahahaha.

        • Aezeal

          True.. but I still think the treeman kit is one of the best ever.

  • Shinnentai

    As a longtime WFB grognard whining about the destruction of the old world ….

    AIRSHIPS! HAND ME THE ROUND BASES! I’M ALL IN!

    • orionburn

      I’ve been kicking around the idea of getting into AoS. This just sealed the deal. This stuff is amazingly awesome. My old Lizardmen army is gonna have to keep collecting dust for a bit longer.

      • Aezeal

        I would be willing to buy a starseer if you can ship to NL cheap 😀

        • orionburn

          lol…in this day in age the words shipping and cheap don’t belong together.

          • Aezeal

            If you deliver it to my door it would be cheap for me 😀

    • luke-vdv

      It’s not like they couldn’t have introduced these to WFB…

    • CloakingDonkey

      welcome to the dark side >:)

  • Crablezworth

    wicked awesome

  • Carey_Mahoney

    Final Fantasy FTW!

  • Aezeal

    I still want Golems though.

    • Aezeal

      Maybe I should proxy my warlord titan as one…

    • We could see some soon…

  • Aezeal

    Is it just me or is the cover art (usually so great mini’s have a hard time keeping up) looking LESS good than the mini’s?

    The head seems to be on an incorrect place for a duardin, the models seem like they have no necks ( chin at/below shoulder level , generally accepted dwarvish trait :D) however this guy seems more like a relatively long necked human in duardin armor.

  • Anyone think Gyrocopters/Gyrobombers will be part of these air-soaring Duardin?

  • Deacon Ix

    This might well get me into AoS

  • sonny2dap .

    It’s like reintroducing squats but without reintroducing squats.

  • You know, the only thing really preventing me from investing heavily in AoS (other then money lol) was the AoS exclusive models they have put out so far have left me cold, the Aztec style dwarfs the worse offenders……. until now!

    Finally an AoS specific army release that I actually like the models for, this might just be my first proper purchase for AoS (other then the £20 starter which I brought with money for my Birthday).

  • Alpharius

    I’ve never been a big dwarf fan but these look alright. That flying dude with the top hat is a bit too far for me though.

    • euansmith

      He appears to have a full-automatic machinegun mustache too.

  • Parthis

    Lovely minis. Tempted. Very, very tempted. Must finish the Orks though.

  • kaptinscuzgob

    but i havent finished my orks or tzeentch yet!

  • Timotheus

    When I first saw the squad, I thought it was Tempestus Scions. This universe is such a (bad) joke compared to WHF…

  • phobosftw

    Omg THE SQUATS ARE BACK – this is awesome!

  • Kampfgrot .

    Well, apparently Squats are back…

    • Nyyppä

      Nooooo. It’s a new race, not the one from RT it obviously is.

  • euansmith

    I see the skyships looking cooler without the Aether Orbs or whatever they are called. The Orbs could be a fun bit to add to some terrain.

    I like that the infantry all seem to wear 1950’s 3D glasses.

  • I didn’t collect WHFB, I have no interest in AoS….. But those are incredible. Some of the best models GW has produced in recent memory.

  • KreskinsESP

    I’m so on board it’s kind of ridiculous.

  • Nyyppä

    Oh, cool, new factions while the old ones are in need of serious attention. That has never failed before….wait….has it?

    • Aezeal

      Old faction become new factions. This IS an old faction.

    • orionburn

      Is it physically impossible for you to ever be happy about anything related to Games Workshop?

      • Nyyppä

        As long as they do not do their jobs, no.

  • Andrew Jamieson

    These are amazing! There is a whole awesome Ghibli-Laputa vibe throughout their design.

  • Evil Otto
  • AnomanderRake

    …Credit where credit is due, I was not expecting the steampunk balloon backpacks.

  • Djbz

    Well this proves there’s no accounting for taste.
    Fyreslayers I thought looked cool and BOLS comments said they were horrible.
    These I think suck, and BOLS comments love ’em

    • AnomanderRake

      These are obviously better than the Fyreslayers. They’ve figured out how to wear pants.

    • Hawt Dawg

      At least you are special.

      That must count for something.

    • Shinnentai

      Possibly Fyreslayers suffered from ‘these aren’t the plastic Slayers I’ve been waiting for’.

      Also it’s tough to hate on airship pirates.

    • thereturnofsuppuppers

      Got some fyreslayers, the characters are alright, but the sculpting on the normal troops leaves a lot to be desired.

  • Lion El’ Jonson

    Demiurg have finally been released!

    • euansmith

      They have finally demi-emerged.

  • What the hell were they smoking when they designed these!? They can smoke more if they keep producing crazy s*** like this!

  • Emprah

    The Squats have officially returned with the Nemesis Dorfknight with a balloon jetpack!

    And it is awesome. Why is this not a 40k army and how could one us is at as an IG detachment?

    • Nuriel

      By playing them as 30k Imperial Militia (Abhuman Helots / Survivors of the Dark Age) 😉

  • Christie Bryden

    YES THIS is the kind of thing that sells age of sigmar as a setting, not dull as hell stormcast, keep up this level of invention.

    • Aezeal

      Stormcasts as a faction and their lore is pretty original actually.

      • Shinnentai

        They can be as original as they like, they’re still hella dull next to dwarven airship pirates! 😉

        • euansmith

          Meh, I wanted dwarven airship ninja viking robot cowboys.

      • Christie Bryden

        lore, potentualy, but design oh god no, so bland and dull, a army of facless soldiers works for the badguys but for the good guys they are like space marines if you cut out all the character to them.

        • Vicent Martín Bonet

          It wouldn’t hurt if they released helmetless guys and ladies, let’s be honest.

          • Christie Bryden

            also if rather than having large waves of releases for them, we had other stuff, like from death or destruction faction.

        • Aezeal

          Well I like their heavy armored look.. but I specifically removed the word aesthetic from my reply since I expected comments on that 😀

  • sonny2dap .

    Do away with the balloons on the ships and use harlequin models for crew and you have an utterly crazy looking harlequins/corsair force.

    • CloakingDonkey

      oh ye of small dreams… I’m thinking Loota Ork Sky Pirates :>

  • WhenDidVicesBecomeVirtues

    Oh man Im so excited but my wallet is gonna be hurting…

  • I wonder if the is “The Squat test” for 40K.

    This new army look really cool!

    • euansmith

      “The Squat Test”? Is that to see if these guys can squat £300?

  • ZeeLobby

    These are pretty amazing. My ONLY gripe, is a lack of helmet less models. I’m really starting to think GW is just incapable of doing faces anymore. I mean I guess they are pretty difficult to CAD maybe? Not that I’d want them all to be helmet-less, but here and there would be nice.

    Now just waiting on GH2.

    • Aezeal

      They did some helmet less faces on stormcasts and the chaos guys right? (I’d personally model all stormcasts WITH helmet if I played them)
      Anyway THIS army shouldn’t have helmetless faces:
      “every inch of their bodies is clad in armour or complex suits, so as to protect them from the harsh environments found in the magic-infused skies of the Mortal Realms.

      • ZeeLobby

        Yeah. I mean I get it’s for fluff reasons, but even a flipped up visor, or Ironman opening would be cool. Just feels undwarfish if I’m not painting a beard or using my dwarf flesh paint. Haha.

        • Aezeal

          It’s what I was contemplating getting ironbreakers for.. a wall of metal (and easy painting). I love full metal men, old chaos warriors, stormcasts and these guys. I’ve had boxes of ironbreakers in my hand quite often. I really can’t imagine me not buying anything from this faction the coming year unless woodelves or sylvaneth get releases.

        • thereturnofsuppuppers

          I wonder if that’s the reason. To help new players to the hobby paint things easily.

          Painting beards is enjoyable, but time consuming.

          • ZeeLobby

            Eh. But that’s Stormcast. They already have the easy-to-paint etc. Honestly with all the detail plastered on I’d hardly call any of the AoS lines easy to paint anyway. They could probably drop down to 3/4ths detail and have more aesthetically pleasing models.

            Personally I just find painting metal boring, unless you go hardcore NMM on them. It looks cool though. I’m not totally against metal beards, lack of facial expression just kills any identity or character to them though. They could be an army of automatons at this point.

          • thereturnofsuppuppers

            I really enjoy painted aged metal. You can build up lots of dirt and vediris over texture paints to really give a ‘organic’ feel.

            Clean metal is a bit boring to paint, but most clean paint jobs require a lot of patience.

            In terms of character, unlike the stormcast, I feel their design oozes enough character to make up for the lack of face plates.

          • ZeeLobby

            Honestly, GW’s posing really kills it for me. Most tend to be spread eagle, or walking awkwardly forward while flailing weapons. It’s something they manage to do well in 40K but still really struggle in AoS. It reminds me of the old Chaos Warrior or SM spread leg stance.

            But their details and theme is definitely stronger than Stormcast, for sure. I guess I need to see some in aged metal to really get the character out.

      • Chad Underdonk

        They aren’t really dwarves any more. They are twisted burnt shadows of the glory of the dwarven race hiding behind armored remnants of their former culture.

        🙂

  • Seamus McIntyre

    How could you use these as squats in 30 / 40k?

    • Aezeal

      putting them on the table.

    • WhenDidVicesBecomeVirtues

      Proxies for imperial guard/solar aux is my best guess if you are looking in terms of rules if that is what you mean.

    • TenDM

      Most things will work with Imperial Guard, but I actually think Necrons might work. Although Space Marines seem to match up well enough as far as weapons are concerned.

  • Rainthezangoose

    I’m really interested to see how they deal with airships in the rules.

    • Aezeal

      It can fly. It’ll have declining stats. Shooting attacks primarily I’d guess, but maybe some sort of strong ram attack and some low effectiveness crew attacks?
      I do hope this faction get’s nearly no MW attacks.. they are going overboard with them, should stay rare. This faction can have a lot of rend 1 and some rend 2 I’d say.

    • Drpx

      Hopefully they won’t have something stupid like “can only be hit by missile attacks with a -6″ range penalty.” Absence of dumb jank like that is one of AoS’s best features imo.

  • Severius_Tolluck

    Holy Mother of God! I want it all. Kinda creeping way into Warmachine territory though…

    • Aezeal

      This is kinda way better.. so it’s not creeping: It’s a full size invasion, planting the flag and eradicating the natives, that sort of thing. Big brass basketball sized balls GW’s got.

      • Drpx

        Followed by a Page 10 in the General’s Handbook that reads like a Sports drink ad.

    • Deathwing

      That might be the point. GW has never really tried to tap into the steampunk genre in any real fassion. This is a great way to do that.
      And yeah maybe they are aesthetically dipping into steampunk territory long the purview of warmachine but lets be honest Malifaux did that too already. The reason most warmachine/hordes players play that game over a warhammer game has much less to do with the minis and much more to do with the style of the actual rules and gameplay, which is WORLDS different.

      • Drpx

        Empire and Dwarves were steampunk. They had airships, tanks and helicopters.

        • CloakingDonkey

          I think he’s talking more about the steam-fantasy thing that specifically Warmachine does… with tesla coils and magitek whatnots.

    • Drpx

      The way an Ork creeps.

  • grim

    im throwing all my paints away that are not metallics lol.

    • Aezeal

      THAT is the spirit.

  • thereturnofsuppuppers

    Fricking amazing!

  • Beefcake the mighty

    Those models are absolutely brilliant.

  • Hrudian

    Flying Victorian Steampunk Dwarf Pirates…

    That must have been one hell of a brainstorm session at GW HQ!

    • Evil Otto

      Honestly, as much as some people are understandably upset with the end of the Warhammer Old World and the Warhammer game, having a fresh new canvas to work with that isn’t the old Tolkien-with-the-numbers-filed-off-and-more-skulls world can be a good thing. I loved a lot of the Old World, but AoS allows GW to go crazy with new ideas without having to worry about what they would do to the game world. Dwarves with fleets of airships? That rocks, and could easily lead to whole campaigns involving battles between fliers.

      • Hrudian

        I agree.

      • PinkTerror

        Yes. It seems like even though this could have been done all along in WOW, taking away the Tolkienesque Old World and trading it for Realm Hopping has opened up the GW designers imagination and they really are creating their own worlds and identity (and whether that’s for IP purposes, whatever, I could care less, I just enjoy what’s been coming out of the factory).

        • Evil Otto

          In a way, it’s what happened with 40K. It started as Warhammer… IN SPAAAACE! with space elves and space dwarves and space orcs (even space ogres and space halflings) but then started moving its own direction. The current setting has only a little bit in common with the Old World setting, namely chaos and orks. The eldar moved away from elves, the squats were… well. Umm. Ok. And the Imperium became its own thing. Writers and designers were allowed to play with the setting, create new things.

          Once we start seeing more world design from GW for Age of Sigmar we’ll hopefully see more invention and creativity. They’ve given themselves an unlimited canvas to draw upon, so I’m optimistic.

  • Evil Otto

    I’m not planning on starting a AoS army other than my happy-go-lucky frothing Khorne madmen, but these would be PERFECT for a D&D campaign I’m planning that involves a dwarven kingdom that uses airships.

  • Xodis

    These look awesome, just not something I am interested in collecting. Will be fun to battle some Cloud Dwarves though.

  • thereturnofsuppuppers

    I hope this will make dwarfs interesting to play on the table. So many years of standing and shooting.

  • Tarsal Wizard

    Take my money. Take it now.

    • Evil Otto

      Gladly. You can send it to me at…

      Oh, wait, you meant that for Games Workshop. My mistake. 😉

  • Gurtball

    I haven’t played Warhammer in a long time. Not since the Lizardmen got their “new” Saurus models, I think. The idea behind these dwarves, however, i making me consider AoS! Airship dwarves… I like it!

  • Phillip Bloodgod

    wtf, what is this?
    Warhammer Steampunk Edition?

    • Drpx

      Hammermachine mk 1.

  • frankelee

    That thing will probably cost $500. But at least somebody, somewhere in GW creative got their teeth into an idea this time around and gave it some direction. (Unlike Wood Elves, Orruks, etc.).

    • Drpx

      Forge World probably gave them idea.

  • Xodis

    Anything about the new “ShadeSpire”? GW just teased the name really.

    • ZeeLobby

      Maybe the terrain in the Armeggedon box?

      • Xodis

        No its an AoS expansion in the release along with the Cloud Dwarves.
        “This is a new game, set in the Mortal Realms during the Age of Sigmar. It has been designed specifically for competitive, organised play, to support our growing community of gamers out there. “

        • ZeeLobby

          Huh. Well that sounds awesomely down my alley. Now I wanna know!

          • Xodis

            With the addition of the “not Necromunda” in 40K, I’m hoping this is a “not Mordeheim” for AoS.

          • ZeeLobby

            That would be pretty cool. We were just about to start up a Frostgrave campaign, but if they do a fantasy city skirmish game we might have to give that a try instead.

          • Xodis

            I was looking at the Frostgrave rules myself, seems pretty fun. If Shadespire isn’t what I want in a campaign skirmish game, Ill probably jump on board that since I can utilize all the models from all the different sources I have lol.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha. Yeah. I was just thinking “hmm, could I start a sigilist whose a dwarf and use these models” haha. Frostgrave is pretty simple to play, but has a lot of depth, and has really good random events and encounters. Add to that the several expansions out there, and it’s definitely the most tempting replacement for mordheim out there (imo).

  • Talos2

    They’re pretty brilliant tbh

  • Keith Wilson

    And now im gonna be broke

  • Aura1

    Not remotely interested in AoS – but that’s some fantastic looking models. Bring back 40K Squats as steampunk gas giant flyers. Sold.

  • Rafał Pytlak

    So the Squats are back…

  • ZeeLobby

    OK. So what are people’s thoughts on alternate paint schemes. As usual, I find GW’s kind of boring. How could you do the metallic suits and not have them just look like washed basic paint? Maybe some weathering/rust? I don’t have the cajones to go full NMM. Any suggestions?

    • Xodis

      Sounds like good ideas. I expect those who had a lot of fun with Necrons, will have the same if not more with these guys.

      • ZeeLobby

        Yeah. Necrons kind of bored me, so hopefully there’s an alternate route, haha.

    • Ben Martin

      To me they seem like the duardian equivalent of Dark Elves, if you make Steamhead the High Elves, so maybe dark iron, black and oily and stuff? Then you could make the ‘suits’ a darker colour so the energy stuff stands out? They remind me of early diving suits so

      • ZeeLobby

        Yeah. That’s not a bad idea. I like the brass, but am not completely sold on it. I think they could look really cool in a cold blue steel maybe?

        • Ben Martin

          The cold steel, with dark blue and a murky-green? Very cold and sea based colours really, with the energy being a much brighter spot colour?

          • ZeeLobby

            That sounds pretty darn awesome. That might have to be the way to go. I like the “under the sea” theme. Thanks!

          • Ben Martin

            The second character from the bottom just reminded me of one of those old-fashioned diving suits, with the rubber exterior and the pressure gauges and stuff. No problem! I might use it myself

    • ZeeLobby
  • memitchell

    With all due respect to AOS, but…

    OMGW! SQUATS!!!!!!!!!!

    Do they honestly expect me not to buy these for 40K/Space Hulk/Shadow War Armageddon? I’m only human GW!

  • ieyke

    This is the greatest thing to happen to Warhammer since……
    …………………….
    maybe literally ever?

  • ZeeLobby

    I’m also now considering kitbashing my forgefathers with these to maximize value, depending on the size and fit. What is GW’s rules for conversions and tournament play these days? is it still 50%?

    • Tim Finton

      I thought it was at least 25% per model… only really matters if you’;re playing in a GW run tourney tho… so…. you’ll probably never run across this.

      • ZeeLobby

        Eh. They’re picking up in the UK at least. Last thing I want to do is spend days converting and painting an army, to then have the US tournaments adopt the official tournament rules and suddenly my entire army is invalid…

    • ZeeLobby

      Crap, it’s 100%, that’s disappointing (but expected). Ugh…

    • Evil Otto

      If there’s even a molecule of the miniature that isn’t GW then you can’t play it. You must use GW miniatures, paints, glue, tools, and any sand you use on the miniature base must come from their parking lot.

      • ZeeLobby

        Ugh. Haha.

  • Tim Finton

    autocannons for AOS… why not just make them duel use as tau auxiliaries?

    • Arykaas

      you mean some Demiurg ? yes please :3

  • Graham Roden

    “Hello Mantic games, your forge fathers look pretty nice, it would be a shame if someone released a new dwarf army to the market!

    • ZeeLobby

      Hey now. I’m gonna combo these!

      • Graham Roden

        Cool. I’m going pure AOS with these. They now have the basis to de squat the Squats too!

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah, combined with Forge Fathers they’ll look a lot more sci fi, should be great for Squats.

    • Drpx

      More like, “well…I guess if we can’t sue them, we’ll just have to actually compete. Darn.”

  • Chad Underdonk

    Wow. They just said “I triple-dog-dare-you to copy this without getting sued!”

    • Xodis

      Mantic already did it! lol

      • ZeeLobby

        Haha. There’s several other steampunk dwarf models out there as well.

  • Sz

    Nice scupts– I am happy for the those who like AoS (retch) that they are feeling the love and support since last summer. They deserve to have their game supported.

    • ZeeLobby

      Some non-stormcast/bloodblood releases is a definite plus.

  • Aezeal

    I’m wondering.. are those dwarves on the big ships full size?

  • Kolobius

    So besides the fact that these are pretty much Forgefathers. And that they are steampunk pirate dwarves. These are totally more appropriate to use as Demiurg or Squats in 40K than any fantasy game.

  • Agent OfBolas

    STUNNING !!!!!!!

  • DeadlyYellow

    The ground troops are amazing.

    The jump-balloons and airships I…. just, no.

  • JL

    I haven’t been overly thrilled with a lot of the newer AoS models since it released, and I’m not sure about Dwarf flying balloon-thingy troopers.

    But those airships? Wow.

  • Graymantle

    These are amazing designs—far beyond anything I imagined. And I’m not getting the comparisons to Forge Fathers… These are elaborate, ornate, finely detailed designs—a stark contrast to those bland, slab-cut not-squats. It’s kinda like… http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9768db1bfdf29bb3468c3e3cb84a712a8bb1753f5193de4921f36e39dd721b50.png

  • Camisa

    after 30 years of underground dwarfs, noe they come from the skys… hehehe….. to mutch 40k in my opinion, they hare great but to mutch 40k….

  • Shawn

    They look more like 40k squats playing being space marines.

  • FreshBumCheeks

    is this for 40k or aos? i cant tell anymore

  • BaronSnakPak

    Those airships are amazing. The troops on the other hand, I have mixed feelings. Might be the paint job that’s making them look overly-busy.

  • Tesq

    squats are back but in age of sigmar instead

  • Aezeal

    Am I the only one who thinks the 2nd char from the bottom is into chemical warfare? That seems like a spray thingie, not a gun.

    • WhenDidVicesBecomeVirtues

      It’s obviously an ale gun, keeping the lads supplied while out in the field and not near any breweries.

      Just remember, don’t drink and airship pilot unless you’re a dwarf.

  • PrehistoricUF0

    WOW these models look absolutely fantastic. They can even be used as Squats in 40K, they can even easily supplement current Duardin armies. They’ve addressed three races in one go with these.

    Well done, GW.

  • Goin’ Whole Hog

    Well, it’s official. They Squatted Dwarves by turning them into Squats.

    Congratulations Rogue Trader fans, you got a classic race back at the expense of another classic race.

    • Drpx

      Maybe this means Bretonnians and Tomb Kings will come back as Mecha-Knights and Robo-Mummies.

      • luke-vdv

        Don’t give them ideas.

  • dave long island

    Amazing, amazing, amazing. Fantastic great! My finances are never going to get back into the black…

  • Private Skittles

    I think it’s cool that they’re the techno-race…and that the world is basically dominated by magic so they basically need to wear spacesuits.

  • JL

    And our beards shall be covered by beards

  • Joseph

    I don’t know what the hell everyone else is on about, these
    look way to bombastic to be added to any of my collections. The design for age of sigmar is all over the place.

    • BaronSnakPak

      I think a big part of it is the paint job. There are so many metallic colors and warm colors that it makes it hard for the eyes to focus on the sculpts.

      • Joseph

        No
        im pretty sure its the fact they have power Armor, a mech, and Gatling guns.

        • BaronSnakPak

          In fantasy they had helicopters, cannons, shotguns, flamethrowers, etc.

          https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600×620/99070205004_GrimmBurlokssonNEW01.jpg

          It’s not a huge departure.

          • Joseph

            Portable gattling guns, mechs and power Armor aren’t a massive departure from modified flintlocks, the organ gun (which was an artillery piece), and plate Armor?

            Also considering that this is in a world with cave men/Egyptian esque chaos warriors and elven ghosts/insects how is this a cohesive setting. You wouldn’t dream of seeing rubbish like this is LoTR, Conan, Storm Bringer, Game Of thrones, or even most D&D settings.

            This all looks like something from diskworld.

          • Aezeal

            Very magic heavy world.. which means that the level of tech isn’t that relevant since magic equals it anyway. THe other races have powerfull mages and don’t need this tech.

          • TheAngryDwarf

            Suppose that reply pretty much sums up AoS, Throw all continuity out the window because Magic and we can do anything we want. Also a fallacy considering that Dwarves are allegedly opposed to magic, but with your reasoning would need magic to make the tech. Which would then mean they would need powerful mages

          • Joseph

            it’s not about need its about cohesion, lore and design. They haven’t done this because it suites the game or the (god awful) setting. It’s because it looks cool and they can be used as spares for 40k, just like with orks.

            Fundamentaly the problem is this: if i took each army and stood them next to each other, you’d never expect them to be from the same world. Hell even standing them next to units from the same army makes them look out of place….

          • Drpx

            Nagash must’ve raised Terry Pratchett.

          • Joseph

            Your comment made me laugh, then made me sad. Bravo sir!

          • TheAngryDwarf

            Its a pretty big departure, from what were actually dwarves, with low key steampunk tech, mostly still grimdark dwarves with tech thats tangible (hot air balloons are believable, flame throwers have been around longer than Jesus) to Gatling guns to floating metal orbs that work presumably with a similar argument to cuz magnets, flying infantry, and an army that looks like stunty engiseers meet sky pirates. They look God awful, and just because they’re airships, doesn’t mean they’re good airships. And the fact that so many people like them perplexes me, it looks like steampunk grey knights meet Flash Gordon meets God knows what else and its just too much.

          • BaronSnakPak

            “the fact that so many people like them perplexes me”
            Different strokes for different folks. Dwarfs already have the bog-standard Dispossessed, the barbaric-ish Fyreslayers, now they have a steampunk army. Again, I don’t see it as a huge leap from Irondrakes and the like:
            https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600×620/99120205013_DwarfIrondrakeChamp360.jpg

            For me it’s the paintjob that detracts from the quality of the sculpts, way too many competing colors.

          • TheAngryDwarf

            Think you’ll find my problem lies with the fact that they have tech built into their armor, and into themselves (its just unnecessary chaff that makes no sense) The weapons of the Irondrakes were just offsprings of the flame cannon, there was a level of continuous thought into the tech. This feels like the nth degree to boost sales of people who like unnecessarily stacked models. I was only slightly miffed when I saw the airships (Miniguns, and large floating Brass balls are a big problem from my perspective, mainly because they make no sense) But then I saw flying infantry and it became clear that its not a fantasy game anymore, its not grounded in any kind of rationale. They look like dwarf automatons, there’s no feeling that they are actually grumpy stunties who built tech through painstaking work just metallic sky pirates who have over the top tech to sell minis

          • Joseph

            “But then I saw flying infantry and it became clear that its not a fantasy game
            anymore, its not grounded in any kind of rationale.”

            think you meant not a well thought out cohesive fantasy world. Or somthing along those lines…

          • TheAngryDwarf

            No, I meant what I said. Its not logical to go aspects of traditional fantasy, to tech clad dwarves with pneumatic arms and large floating balls that somehow have buoyancy. If you want to call it cohesion that is fine but my choice of wording still makes sense

          • BaronSnakPak

            To be fair, it ISN’T fantasy any more, at least in the Tolkien sense that WHFB was aping. Chaos won, the old world was destroyed, AoS is thousands of years later in a multi-verse kinda setting. It makes sense that in that time some races have advanced, what wouldn’t make sense is if they ALL stayed the same.

            Love it or hate it, GW got out of the milked-to-death basic fantasy setting years ago.

          • TheAngryDwarf

            I mean, I dont know your experience with the Fantasy Genre, but if you think the Old world was ‘basic’ and that LOTR is ‘milked-to-death’ and that the answer to replace it with what is essentially a Saturday Morning Cartoon setting, then I feel sorry for you son. I don’t see there being many books like Gortrek & Felix based on AoS, or Video Games because there is nothing to base it on. No credible string of thought provoking story. If anythings its like some sort of terrible Anime setting.

          • Joseph

            “milked to death” is a weird way of summing up one of the most iconic and beloved fantasy settings of all time. A setting built upon aspects from some of the greatest fantasy novels, without which neither games workshop or its fanbase would exist, and so integral to gaming its design choices are seen everywhere (sometimes in non tabletop games).

            And while fantasy is prevalent throughout table top gaming, If done competently it still does well no matter how “milked to death” you may personally deem it.

            If you prefer the AOS rules or its design fair enough, but there is no “debate” about the lore: its god awful. Its the single biggest barrier preventing people into the game new or old.

            The old world was more unique than it gets credit for. The closest you can get
            to it now is either old products or the stuff like kings of war which pales in comparison.

            All GW did by killing off the old setting is open up the market, not to mention
            do the fanbase a massive disservice with how they chose to handle it.

          • BaronSnakPak

            Lore being the biggest barrier is highly debatable. If I’m playing a game, I want the game to be fun, first and foremost, background books are much much lower on the priority list.

            When I say “milked to death” I mean it as a general term, you can’t swing a cat without hitting a Tolkien-inspired piece of entertainment. It’s iconic to be sure, but it’s also about time that fantasy creators start looking for new inspiration. As a setting, it’s stale.

          • Joseph

            1. enjoyment is subjective. Simplicity doesn’t equal fun (though something fun can be simple or stupid in and of itself). While I appreciate its your personal taste, as far as table top gaming goes, the “rules to the detriment of story” line of thinking is in the minority (AoS is more along the line of sell big flashy models> everything). Most people for example didnt pick an army in Warhammer because of their rules or playstyle, instead choosing them based on their backstory, characters and look. The rules aren’t what draw people to the game its the setting that distinguishes it.

            2. The setting was inspired by far more than just Tolkien, though its pretty hard to do something separate from Tolkien with it still being good (of which the AOS setting isn’t). As the setting matured The lord of the rings influences on the old world were so dilute in that trying to draw direct similarities between the two. So if there were so many blatant influences you’re going to have to give some examples.

            3. The setting wasn’t stale it was left untended. It wasn’t a question of it
            being old/unappealing (far from it), the only way the setting affected sales is that it wasn’t being utilised. I can guarantee you that if the setting remained unchanged, or the new setting was comparatively similar to the old world in terms of tone (none of this he man like floating dimension rubbish) age of sigmar would have been received with barley any negativity compared to how it was actually received.

            4. Also weather you view the old setting as “stale” its a bit of a mute point when you replace it with something new and worse. I highly doubt we’ll be seeing an age of sigmar wfrp doing well outside AoS pre existing players, or any lore intensive video games or books for examples as the setting is just cancer, with no real rhyme or reason other than to generate display pieces. As it is the new “warhammer quest” is a downgrade from the original, being more age of sigmar light (and that’s saying something) and most recently an excuse to bundle pre existing models together at a higher price.

            5. I should also point out as this discussion is moving away from the flaws of these dwarves specially and more onto the general flaws of AOS, one very important thing that blindly pro AOS (not saying that you are one) seem to miss: AoS was a bad move, if not because of the setting, or subjective issues like point cost and rules, then because it showed that GW will scrap an entire game and reboot it as a short term fix with no word of warning or sympathy to the fans. While 40k is safe for now, I have no doubt that if GW exists for another 10-20 years that the same thing will happen to AoS (if not quicker due to ever increasing competition).

          • Joseph

            1. enjoyment is subjective. Simplicity doesn’t equal fun (though something fun can be simple). While I appreciate its your personal taste as far as table top gaming goes, but the “rules to the detriment of story” line of thinking is in the minority (and AoS is more along the line of sell big
            flashy models> everything). Most people for example don’t pick an army in Warhammer because of their rules or playstyle, instead choosing them based on their backstory, characters and look. The rules aren’t what draw people to the game its the setting that distinguishes it.

            2. The setting was inspired by far more than just Tolkien, though its pretty hard to do something separate from Tolkien with it still being good (of which the AOS setting isn’t). As the setting matured The lord of the rings influences on the old world were so dilute in that trying to draw direct similarities between the two. So if there were so many blatant influences you’re going to have to give some examples.

            3. The setting wasn’t stale it was left untended. It wasn’t a question of it being old/unappealing (far from it), the only way the setting affected sales is that it wasn’t being utilised. I can guarantee you that if the setting remained unchanged, or the new setting was comparatively similar to the old world in terms of tone (none of this he man like floating dimension bollocks) age of sigmar would have been received with barley any negativity compared to how it was actually received.

            4. Also weather you view the old setting as “stale” its a bit of a mute point when you replace it with something new and worse. I highly doubt we’ll be seeing an age of sigmar wfrp, or any lore intensive video games or books for examples as the setting is just cancer with no real rhyme or reason other than to generate display pieces. As it is the new “warhammer quest” is a downgrade from the original, being more age of sigmar light (and that’s saying something) and most recently an excuse to bundle pre existing models together at a higher price.

            5. I should also point out as this discussion is moving away from the flaws of these dwarves specially and more onto the general flaws of AOS, one very important thing that blindly pro AOS (not saying that you are one) seem to miss: AoS was a bad move, if not because of the setting, or subjective issues like point cost and rules, then because it showed that GW will scrap an entire game and reboot it as a short term fix with no word of warning or sympathy to the fans. While 40k is safe for now, I have no doubt that if GW exists for another 10-20 years that the same thing will happen to AoS (if not quicker due to ever increasing competition).

            (how odd, im pretty sure i posted this response once already but its just disappeared….)

          • Joseph

            I would very much like to know why my reply to this comment keeps getting deleted…

          • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

            And they aren’t even brightly painted.

    • Aezeal

      Design is all over the place… true I guess, Stormcast, Sylvaneth, Flesheaters, Iron Jaws and these guys are pretty different.
      I fear you fail to see that THIS WAS EXACTLY the intention and that all armies have a very similar internal aesthetic (whatever the correct phrase is).

      • Joseph

        I don’t fail to see it its just bad all round design. Lets take how they designed the lord of the rings movies: each culture and army is distinct with different weapons, armor, tactics, architecture ect. yet fundamentally there are similarities. If anything here where do descend from the skies in any other
        serious fantasy setting I think most people would vomit…

        Im not saying you cant do it, look at D&D and their air cultists. Airborn yet not in contradiction to the surrounding design.

        • Aezeal

          In Dnd this could happen.. hello.. shadovar?
          LotR is way less magic heavy.. so low in magic that “great” magicians hardly perform any noticable magic so obviously there is a much bigger reason for them to conform to similarities with our real history.

          • Joseph

            Oh for the love of pete;
            “Im not saying you cant do it”
            “look at D&D and their AIR CULTISTS.
            Airborn yet not in contradiction to the surrounding design (e.g. done right)”

            Contrast to: acquisitions incorporated’s mech statute. A joke/pop refrence but completly out of place from a seriously toned setting (if AQ wasnt a comedy series)

            Its about how it is applied. Chaos look like they’ve walked out of conan, wood elves look like a cross between platlabor and spirited away, and now we have terry pratchets sky pirates.

            This is AoS number one flaw: scrap all the great lore and replace it with drivel, then make modles that look awsome stand alone with no for thought of actualy getting them together in a cohesive story. It dosent mesh.

        • euansmith

          I think that in LoTR everyone came from the same world and was exposed to the same environment and physical laws.

          In AoS, the Mortal Realms are like pocket universes where societies have grown and diverged over 10,000 years.

          The idea that the different factions have very different looks seems to be consistently inconsistent.

          • Joseph

            I know the lore based “justification” but the lores the biggest flaw with AoS.

        • Parthis

          Pointing at LotR is exactly *why* the design is so varied, and exactly why we have Orruks and Ogors and so on.

          • Joseph

            you mean orks and ogres 😛
            Could you clarify the point your making?

  • Marco Paroli

    It’s AoS or 40K??? :O

  • AlanWolf

    Squats!!!

  • Chris Hateley

    These are okay I guess, but I think we can all agree that what we really wanted was an all new Space Marine chapter with an accompanying 500 variants of the same model.

    • Chris Hateley

      But on a serious note; you say “Kharadron,” I say “Squats.”

  • Drpx

    Because @#$% you Privateer Press.

    • BeardMonk

      In what sense?

  • 301stFeinminsterArmoured
  • Noah Jerge

    Squats!

  • Daniel Rodriguez Casado

    Mechanicum Squats!! XD

    Im already planning conversions for that!

    • Cristhian Mario Landa Rivera

      I call them Adeptus Enanicus

  • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

    Seriously though, this does for me the same thing that the AoS treatment of Clan Skryre did: gave me an aspect of a Fantasy faction I liked but couldn’t field in 8th, and made it playable.

  • luke-vdv

    The models themselves look great, but they seem a too high tech looking for a fantasy game. They almost look like they should be in 40k. They practically have power armour. I prefer the regular dwarfs with less bombastic steampunk aesthetics.

  • Sam Nolton

    GW’s knocked it out of the park with this one. I’ve literally NEVER been excited for a dwarf release until now.

  • Smac

    oh man, I’m too old too like these. My poor dwarfs,,,out with the old…I guess..

  • Matthew Pomeroy

    I find these completely awful. very glad I dropped AoS, I had hopes for “duardin” but this is just a nope.

  • SacTownBrian

    I don’t see it mentioned anywhere if these guys are Order or not. I don’t know why but I keep thinking they might be Destruction only because do we really need another Order faction?

  • BeardMonk

    While I will never play AoS I would buy one two of these models for our steampunk Pathfinder setting. From an outsider view, why is almost everything in AoS getting physical bigger and flying?

  • This Dave

    Why do I imagine these guys talking like Brian Blessed in the movie Flash Gordon?

  • Andy Wise

    Can’t remember the last time I had such a big smile on my face from new minis. What an original, well designed set. Love it.

  • frank

    Am I the only one who sees willy wonka the dwarf lord? I think they will make neat conversion bits for my admech squats but im not a fan of that tophat balloon lord.