Welcome to Star Wars LEGION Week!

We’ve got the game, two fully painted armies, and are bringing FFG’s big new wargame to you all week!

OK guys, you’ve been waiting for this one since last August when FFG pulled the covers off LEGION at GENCON50.

FFG’s original LEGION teaser

This is the one gamers have dreaming of for decades. Star Wars on the tabletop as a modern tabletop miniatures game with with all the bells and whistles. The rules are solid, the minis are good, and we are putting it through it’s paces LIVE for you.

LEGION Product Reviews

We have every launch product fully unboxed and over on our YouTube right now.

Here’s the first one to get you started:

 

LEGION Live Streamed Games

We have two games and a talk show for you this week:

Monday: Game 1: 1PM, Talk Show: 4PM (Central time)

Tuesday: Game 2: 5:30PM (Central time)

It’s Kind of a BIG Deal

It’s been a long time since we’ve seen a new game that looks ready to shake up the entire tabletop miniatures industry.  We’ve seen a lot of competent games come and go over the years, or establish their own enclaves in the industry. FFG has the biggest recent mega-hit with X-Wing (the #2 game in the industry right now), so they have a history of using the Star Wars license to excellent effect.

What we are looking at here is a product that looks set to get into the ring and go toe to toe with Warhammer 40,000 for gamer’s dollars.  GW has decades of experience, but FFG has deep pockets, and the brand to beat all brands – STAR WARS.  You have to explain to newcomers what a Space Marine is, but even your mom knows who Darth Vader is.

FFG is quickly rolling out new products for LEGION right from launch, and looks to be trying to grow the game’s SKUs as quickly as they can – to let the game arrive with a splash.

It’s still way way too early to tell how this will all shake out, but this is a battle like the industry has never seen. No matter what happens, the consumer will be the winner.

~So join us and tune in all week for Star Wars LEGION coverage. What do you think of the game from what you’ve seen and heard?

  • Parthis

    It’s just a shame that legion looks kinda frustrating to play… i’ve watched a few videos now and the activation system leaves me cold. Other games have handled it with much more grace.

    • ZeeLobby

      Ignore my message above, haha. What don’t you like about it?

      • Parthis

        Hah! It just feels remarkably unpredictable. It’s a mostly-random system, which makes grand-plans difficult. There’s a lot of smaller stuff too, but that’s the big one; the way you activate units, and the ebb and flow of the game just feels off. To each their own, of course.

        • As a counterpoint the unit activation pool mechanic kinds of reminds of of Bolt Action. I think it also has to be a bit uncertain, as that is what makes the order you pick matter – because it gives you more control over the key units you want to accomplish things.

          Fundamentally it’s a system that is trying to reflect the “fog of war” with a slight disconnect between what you the player wanting total control over your units, and the uncertainly of combat – where some things are slightly out of your direct control.

          Lots of games handle it in different ways – the unit activation pool is a solid attempt to recreate the effect.

          • Parthis

            There’s an important difference with Bold Action, and while I agree with your sentiment, I think this is just too unpredictable. In BA while you don’t know *when* you’ll get an activation you do know exactly what you want to do with it. In SW:L I know when, I just don’t know what. It’s a fine but important line I feel. In every game i’ve seen the players seem to be responding to the draws as opposed to play to a strategy or plan. I’ll hold my judgement until I play for myself, but it’s a surprising choice and not one I think will hold up for experienced gamers.

    • marxlives

      It is going to sell big in my area too. I am not a huge Star Wars fan, just because its bad sci-fi (its all about the Dune-Foundation-Martian Chronicles), but even I am going to be picking this one up because its going to be big and its going to be the standard. I am still going to be play my stuff and their is a crowd for it but basically SW: Legions is going to be the window game for the wargaming hobby. You want to grow your 40k group? Play Legions.

      We got two cons that run in my area and its going to bring a bunch of new people into the hobby just like X-Wing did. Most people who play X-Wing/Armada are not 40k converts, they are either people who play more than one wargame or people who never played before. Legions is going to do the same, if not better just because you know X-Wing/Armada crowd will buy and it will sell to even more people who know nothing about any of the games I play but know Star Wars.

      It doesn’t help that system is solid, fast to play while remaining granular, with plenty of tactical options between two factions, and FFG knows how to run an officially sponsored tournament scene which is currently lacking in 40k. GW will give their blessing to tournaments but they wont actually own a tournament scene in the way MtG, FFG, or even PP does and that is going to bring in all the competitive players too.

      Don’t forget all the hardcore Star Wars collectors out there who may never even play this game but will buy it just to own it. Which is something none of the miniature games (including the ones I love) have right now.

      And with the Disney backing this is basically a license to print money.

      • Parthis

        Oh, it’s going to be huge, no doubt. But if this had a lesser known IP attached I think there would be a lot more criticism of the core game and how it works.

  • disqus_yyglaTdo9o

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:

    Dumb scale, and AGAIN with the Galactic Civil war…

    If I could have fielded an ATAT for once, and the game had the same scale of Epic, I’d jump right on it.

    If I could field something else than always the same stuff from the GCW, and, I dunno, could make a unit of Droids, I’d jump right on it.

    Now: No appeal for me whatsoever.

    • zeno666

      I kind of agree with you. I love AT-ATs. Same problem as 40k. Wrong scale.
      Star Wars Legion will probably have better rules, better support and better tournament rules though, so I’m still curious.

      • Parthis

        Beasts of War have a pretty good play-through video up now. It’s not a bad game, but there’s some head-scratching stuff.

        • ZeeLobby

          What were the head scratchers? (I know I’m being lazy :P)

          • Parthis

            From the videos i’ve seen, not being able to premeasure movement and the random nature of activations are the two biggest. So I can’t know what I activate next, and I can’t know exactly where it can get to even if I could. Just feels meh.

          • ZeeLobby

            Oh, man, I LOVE no pre-measuring. I think it really represents what a general leading troops on the field has to deal with. IRL a general would have a guesstimate as to how far his units would move, due to holdups, terrain, etc. We have a much easier to parse exact movement distance, and exact penalties for terrain. One of the skills of a good battlefield tactician (IRL) has always been judging distances and effectiveness. I was really sad when most games started removing them. It’s one of the reasons I still love infinity.

            That said, I know it’s totally a personal preference. Random activations are pretty weird, though I think you can use commands to pick which units activate right? I kind of like that. It’s not PURE random, but if you forgo commands it is.

      • ZeeLobby

        The scale definitely appeals to more players and hobbyists alike.

        • disqus_yyglaTdo9o

          But its Calles LEGION. You know how much man a legion contains??

          This… “Game” is merely a really, really small skirmish :s

          • ZeeLobby

            Eh. Poor naming. If that’s enough to sink it it never works would have made it.regardless of scale.

          • disqus_yyglaTdo9o

            Once it was announced, I was excited because of the title. Hopes got destroyed after seeing the models. Disappointment is something hard to get rid of.

            Expecting to play a legion, actually got a small warband. Pass.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. Could def understand that. At the same time way more people play 28mm games than 15/10/etc. I’d rather buy a game I can find games of than not.

  • Mike Dangelo

    I cannot hear you guys over the music in most cases.

  • Xodis

    Got mine preordered. Even if it flops I have tons of miniatures for RPGs lol. Seriously though all the other videos of play seem to have people excited.

    • ZeeLobby

      Everyone I’ve talked to who has been lucky enough to demo or watch demos have loved it. I thought runewars mechanics were pretty awesome, and am excited for what FFG has done with Legion. Should be a good game.

  • Douglas Burton

    Jumping on board this big time. Price point is spot on for the figures. Haven’t tried the rules yet but there are other rules sets that these can be used with.

    • The pricepoint for the starter set is very aggressive. I think it will be a strong seller.

  • silashand

    Definitely looking forward to this. I know folks complain about factions, but there is less homogeneity in Star Wars anyway with the various elements already absorbed into the big factions. I think as time goes on there will be more army options than just Rebels vs Stormtroopers.

    • There are strong hints in the rules that more factions are on the way.

  • Logandarksky

    in my area every ffg game has floped . xwing was great till everyone flaked out. We are givng warmahordes another try but if it doesnt stand on its own then it will be back to just 40k and sigmar.

  • CloakingDonkey

    I’m still not sure what to think of this game. It looks alright but the mini quality isn’t fantastic =(

    Also it’s basically Bolt Action with FFG shenanigans tacked on… no idea if that will make it better…

    • The minis are solid – vehicles especially have very crisp detail. Infantry are a different material than GW, but the the scale is beefy. Stormtrooper is same height at a Primaris Marine.

  • mreindl

    Gamers have been waiting for this for decades?!?! Don’t remember WEG Star Wars Miniatures Battles, do we?

    • Correct. Nobody remembers WEG Star Wars Miniatures Battles, nor cares.

      • K D

        wrong, I care about Star wars mini battles! I have some of the fine pewter still in my basement, and the books are..well, somewhere. My friends and I cut our teeth on tabletop mini gaming with those, before moving to 2nd edition 40K.