40K: The Rising Tide of Chaos in 8th

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Games Workshop had a chat with one of the tournament organizers for LVO and one of the playtesters of 8th Edition. Chaos ensues.

That’s right. Games Workshop brought in Frankie (of Frontline Gaming fame) to talk about his perspective on how Chaos is going to play in the new edition. And of course, you can’t have a conversation without a few teasers, so sit back, strap in, and let’s take a look at what we can expect from Chaos.

via Warhammer Community

Chaos armies usually lean towards close combat, which is not what you normally see from a lot of armies in Warhammer 40,000 currently. Chaos has a solid control of the psychic phase as well, with the nasty Sorcerer Cabal that has been rampaging across the tables around the world – very fitting for an army that largely calls the warp home.

It has been a long time since we’ve seen Chaos armies with a lot of power armour on the tables, but no more! In the new edition, you will be seeing a great many Chaos armies, and a lot of them will have power armour in abundance! Yes, you read that right, you will want to have Chaos Space Marines in Chaos Space Marine armies!

Chaos Space Marines in Chaos Space Marine armies? Madness. Utter madness I tell you. I wonder what the non-marines in CSM will look like. Especially since vehicles/monstrous creatures/etc. all use the same rules for their profiles now, I want to know what a Chaos Dreadnoughat will play like. I think it’s a great opportunity to really play up the Chaos in Chaos Space Marines.

Heavy Weapons, as we’ve seen, are getting something of a buff–which is a nice counter to the melee/psychic heavy playstyle that Frankie mentioned earlier. He talks about how it’ll be exciting to see Havocs on the table again:

Make sure to have a fully stocked arsenal as those lascannons, autocannon, missile launchers and even – you better believe it – heavy bolters, as they are going to be doing plenty of work in this new version of Warhammer 40,000!

They will provide excellent cover fire for your Chaos Terminators which will now strike fear into the hearts of your opponent as they bring devastation to the battlefield where they are least expected.

Which makes sense. Heavy Weapons can all move and shoot now, taking a penalty, but, especially since they’re the weapons that are capable of dealing multiple wounds per shot, they’ll be putting in the work to take out some of the Large Models we’ll be seeing in the new edition.

Let me leave you with two more tidbits from Frankie:

Abbadon has the rules to stomp face all along the Crimson Path (no surprise here, but he’s claiming credit for the Great Rift). Cadia was just the first step! He is a force to reckon with and inspires his Legion, allowing them to dominate the battlefield with an incredible ability which I will not spoil for you.

Lastly, I want to talk about some of the most savage close combat fighters in the galaxy: the Khorne Berzerkers.

These guys are supposed to be feared for their brutality and combat prowess. Well, guess what? They will be – start fearing them now. Khorne will be pleased with this newest iteration of Berzerkers… very pleased! What about chainaxes, you ask? You will want to arm all of your “Blood for the Blood God” warriors with these bad boys. Wait…Blood for the Blood God…what does that do?

Apparently the folllowers of Khorne will all get a rule called Blood for the Blood God which makes them very happy to have chainaxes (and who knows what other melee weapons and grossness), but as for what that rule actually does? We’ll just have to wait and see. It sounds like GW is taking a long hard look at their model lineup and trying to get some old favorites back onto the tabletop.

What Chaos units do you think/hope will be good in 8th Edition? How would *YOU* want to see Chaos changed? And we all agree it’s pronounced CH-owse, right?

  • Alexis Muscat

    Who cares about berserkers, THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW.

    • euansmith

      “Dooom Riiiiiiider,
      Rider of Doom,
      Dooom Riiiiiding,
      Dooomy, dooomy, doom”

    • Fomorian

      … so you better equip your Noise Marines then ;)!

  • Xodis

    This is looking great, was kind of hoping that Special Characters would go away quietly but I know thats wishful thinking when they are rolling out Primarchs and Deamon Primarchs.

    Still worries me about the bit describing Cultists as challenging the biggest guy even if they know they wont win…does that means auto-challenges are staying? Would be cool if it was only Cultists and if he won he was made something cool like a Deamon Cultist, but let me choose when my CSM want to challenge.

    • Brian

      I can’t tell if the thing about challenges was, “this is the way it was in 7th” or “this is how it’ll be in 8th.”

      • Munn

        probably not literal.

        • JayBiga

          Didn’t one of the earlier teases say that challenges are gone?

      • Ak318

        I think that part was where he was describing choas in 7th. Later on he says basically now to chat about 8th and you will want to take only power armor.

  • Hendrik Booraem VI

    I didn’t actually read anything that told me anything. I feel like I just watched an infomercial about Amway…

    • Brian

      Yeah, there are some interesting implications, but since nothing is explained, it’s not terribly useful and the most interesting bit is at the end with hints for a special “Blood” rule for Khorne berzerkers.

      Otherwise, it’s, “Chaos sucked, now Chaos rulez!” Does this mean I can write the Astra Militarum article? “Nobody took rough riders before but due to chargers going first in melee and vague hints that might not actually pan out into anything, they rulez!”

      • kingcobra668

        “What are ‘teasers,’ Alex?”

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        Except Chaos doesn’t suck now…

    • Fergie0044

      Aye, bit of a non-article. Doesn’t tell us anything new about what 8th Edition Chaos will look like, except it will be “totes awesome guys!”.
      However, I draw a small amount of comfort from the fact that GW seems to be aware of what was wrong with Chaos in 7th, to the point that they’re willing to do an official article doing nothing but making fun of them!

  • benn grimm

    Believe it when I see it.

    • euansmith

      Oh, you doubting, Ben.

    • dave long island

      That’s what Alicia said… lol. 🙂

  • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

    The combination of Traitor Legions and Renegades and Heretics (IA13) with the new version of the Daemon codex actually makes Chaos better than its ever been. Typical for Chaos players to get a new golden age, but have GW cut it short after 3 months.

    The new rules are going to have to be very good and flavourful to come even close to what we have now. I am not optimistic.

    • euansmith

      That’s a Golden Age that only requires three books?

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        Two different codexes and a FW book doesn’t seem too bad by the standards of the day. And actually each is fine by itself, they don’t need each other or combos between them to work, they just provide variety. Thats one of the things thats good about the current situation.

  • euansmith

    Are rising tide of Chaos? That’s going to leave a nasty mark.

    • dave long island

      Not to mention a foamy, stinky, sticky and foul residue… Just try washing that off the seagulls with dishsoap… lol. Not gonna happen… lol

  • kaptinscuzgob

    this sure is a lot of “things are great!” and not much information

  • Heinz Fiction

    tldr: trust me, it will be great.

    For a non-employee of GW this is an awful lot of marketing talk and very little information. Striking first after charging was probably not the number one problem of Khorne Berserkers as they are tanky enough to take a few hits (compared to let’s say genestealers). So please tell us what makes them so great.

  • Marco Marantz

    Ok im claiming this – i complained and complained about berzerkers to GW to an almost scientific level. I can die happy if they have fixed them.

  • Jonathan B.

    “…I want to know what a Chaos Dreadnoughat will play like.”
    Creamy and chewy with a little bit of ruinous mixed in?

  • mgdavey

    I don’t understand any of this. Articles like this keep saying “Close combat is back because Heavy Weapons now take less of a penalty” What?

  • Nwttp

    I’m hoping they make chaos chosen at least decent, those guys from the 7th edition box set are some of the best looking models, at least that I have. I nurgled them out good, so hopefully they they can go well with those bosssss looking plague marines that look like there going to be in the 8th edition starter.

  • My greatest anxiety about 8th is the brain trust at Frontline’s involvement, they’re actively the worst

    • dave long island

      Well at least they’re active. Nothing worse than peeps who are slothful and the worst.