40K: Space Marine Repulsor Tank

The Space Marines are getting a new tank for the new edition – behold the Repulsor!

A new edition brings forth some new toys for the Space Marines and the Primaris Marines aren’t the only new units that are joining the fray. The Space Marine Repulsor rides to battle!

via Warhammer Community

“This new tank is one of the new armoured vehicles that accompanies the Primaris Space Marines to war. Like their arms and armour, it was forged on Mars, and is recognisably of the same STC origins as its predecessors. Could this be ancient technology long lost and uncovered once more, or has Cawl been “tinkering” with Omnissiah-blessed technologies? This new war machine stands ready to crush its way to war alongside the tried and tested Predator and Land Raider tanks of the Space Marine Chapters.”

 

 

There is a lot to digest on this tank! It looks like we’ve got a twin-lascannon on the front hull, a turret mounted Lascannon, an Assault Cannon manned by a Techmarine, and various smaller missile-pods and/or smoke launchers on the top, sides and rear of this beast! I’m also counting 3 access points, two on the sides and the hatch in the rear. And let’s not skip over the fact that this new tank doesn’t appear to have tracks – it’s hovering!

It’s certainly looks a lot like an amalgamation of different Space Marine Vehicles: a Land Raider, a Predator, and a Land Speeder. I’m also curious if the Marine on top is a Primaris Marine or not – that will mean the size of this think is MASSIVE. Also, it’s the first Space Marine Tank that I can recall that has a base.

 

What do you think of this new tank for the Space Marines?

  • Koen Diepen Van

    It´s a nice model but it´s a bit over designed compared to other models in the 40k range.

  • EnTyme

    It would appear the Imperium is now comparing design notes with Cobra.

    • Ha ha. Cobra la la la la la!!!

    • Xodis

      Or was Cobra somehow ahead of their time???

      • Rafał Pytlak

        No, no,no… Cobra-La was clearly allied with the Tyranids. A genestealers cult perhaps?

    • kobalt60

      I thought Roboute looked familiar, and now I remember, Serpentor

      • Iconoc1ast

        Serpentor had all the best lines…. “BLUNDERERS!!…..FOOOLS!!!……”

    • Severius_Tolluck

      Full circle we have come. As early predators were made using cobra and gi joe tanks!

    • georgelabour

      This is not entirely a bad thing.

      Plus now we know how all those special characters keep surviving every battle they’ve died in. They’ve just been parachuting out of their armor right before the explosion/crash.

  • Jared van Kell

    Well I think the Chaos and Xenos players are definitely going to be irritated by this one. Unless of course they are going to be getting some awesome stuff as well. I hope so.

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      there do seem to be some new Nurgle vehicles coming soon judging by some illustrations snipped from recent videos.

      • Jared van Kell

        I really do hope so as Chaos needs some love as well. These new roidmarines should not be the only ones to get some new toys.

        • Shatterclaw

          Hell turkey.. Murderfiends.. Murder maul..

          • Jared van Kell

            Centurions, Grav weapons, Stalker, Hunter, Stormhawk Interceptor…… Need I go on?; Because I can. All those things were released long after Chaos Spacemarines got some new daemon engines.

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          Because Chaos didn’t just get an entirely new Thousand Sons model range and is not getting an entirely new Deathguard model range… Lol.

          • Jared van Kell

            Yes but the thing is that those were factions in their own right and by and large you had to take them as allies to a regular Chaos Spacemarine list to be able to use them. Spacemarines never had this problem, they had access to far more units than Chaos did without the need to take allies.
            What I am getting at is the amount of unit diversity and tactical redundancy Chaos Spacemarines had in comparison to their loyalist counterparts was seriously lacking in my opinion. Now with the next edition the restriction on being able to take units from different sub-factions may be lifted so that Chaos Spacemarine players may be able to take all of the Deathguard and Thousand Son units without restriction or Deathguard/Thousand Sons will be able to include regular Chaos Spacemarine units in their armies in the same manner. One can hope.

    • Hawt Dawg

      I don’t! I want a new whine feast of epic proportions.

      And when that is over, I want to see a healthy GW financial report increasing the suicide rate of personally insulted “ex” gamers.

      • Jared van Kell

        Some traditions have to be maintained. The whine fest being one of them.

    • Izak Lazarowski

      As a Xenos player (Tau) this really grinds my gears. I am less concerned about getting new stuff for my army (we had awesome additions last year) and I am more frustrated by the “anything you can do I can do better” aspect. SM players seem to have options that can approximate almost any other army (see new flying primarus SM vs crisis suits) and often do it better… it feels kinda raw.

      • kingcobra668

        Yeah, you liked it better when “everything you can do I can do better” was in your favour.

        • Because it was fitting the fluff and some people chose hightech-xenos because that’s exactly what they wanted? Bad point costs are obviously not part of this discussion here, because we don’t even know the costs or abilities of this thing yet. It’s the pure existence that’s… let’s say ‘odd’ at best.

        • Izak Lazarowski

          In the shooting phase, definitely 😉 but we always needed to compensate for lack of close combat and psychic. I think contrast between armies and strategies is what makes a wargame. SMs literally have options for EVERYTHING! That would be ok if they where a “jack of all trades” kind of army, but it feels more like “MASTER OF ALL TRADES”

          • Emprah

            They are supposed to be “master of all”, at the expense of being “fewer than all” but the latter never applies on TT.

          • Actually they never were supposed to be “masters of all” when it comes to technology. Just nope.

          • Emprah

            Well yeah, with tech it is supposedly be the Crons who are the masters of it all, with Admech as second.

          • I wouldn’t place the AdMech as 2nd actually. Eldar and Tau don’t have all this religion-mystery-tamtam the AdMech has and they actually do understand how their stuff works instead of believing in weird prayers needed to get a machine to work. Imo Necrons top, then Eldar, then Tau/AdMech on a similar level – the latter two give and take in different areas, so are kinda on level I’d say.

          • Heinz Fiction

            Fluff wise its probably necros first then a very large gap with Eldar second, followed by another very large gap. Compared to those two the rest ist pretty much on a par with each other. Tau tech leapfrogged imperial tech in some areas but not in others (yet).

          • Jup.

          • Heinz Fiction

            i think i wanted to reply to the guy above you but just take it as a confirmation 😉

          • I did 😛

          • Mitchell

            Orks clearly have the best tech

          • Well, they at least have tech the AdMech doesn’t understand.

          • Jared van Kell

            The AdMech don’t understand most of the tech they use so it makes sense for them not to understand Ork tech.

          • Very true. At least up until lately when Cawl showed up.

          • Izak Lazarowski

            Im less concerned about the fluff. I think you could debate who has the best toys all day long. My point is that on the TT there should be some difference in kind. When you have an army of jumpy/shooty fish people in mechs + a hover tank and your opponent has an army of jumpy/shooty SM + a hover tank + EVERYTHING ELSE… it pulls all of the flavor out of the armies. Obviously they need to make money and good on them for doing so. I just wish it didn’t come at the cost of contrast on the TT.

          • georgelabour

            Gonna agree with you that admech aren’t 2nd. But they’re pretty much a clear 3rd over all.

            While Tau may have some more efficient tech the Mechanicus itself probably has a lot of stuff that’s beyond them. They just can’t or won’t employ it on a wider scale for various ‘reasons’. E.G: Land Raiders, Teleporters, and anti-gravity systems.

            Plus there’s the matter of warp travel, and attendant technologies. Not to mention their obvious superiority in the biological sciences compared to the Tau.

            Where the tau end up winning is in their willingness to distribute their goodies and knowledge rather than hoarding them.

            Also they’re not as hindered by traditions…mostly as they haven’t gotten to ‘enjoy’ dealing with their own version of Skynet.

            However neither of that really makes the Tau more advanced. It just means the average person gets better widgets.

            Also the Tau won’t lobotomize you if you forget to burn the correct incense while hugging your widget.

          • Coltcabunny

            “…And They Shall Know No Unfavourable Rules Updates.”

          • Drpx

            It applies when the Guard/Nid/Ork player doesn’t go tank/monster/Nob heavy.

          • Chaos_Unbound

            Exactly. a 4+ to hit seems a “Jack of all trades” because thats a 50/50 chance regardless of what you do. Armies that train more shooting should be 3+, commanders in those armies being 2+, and same thing for Assault. Instead Marines Are not just the Swiss army knife but that version of the Swiss army knife that has the 500+ tools that does everything and everything well.

      • Fraser1191

        Just gonna say for 3 of those new jetpack marines it’s 225
        I’m sue your crisis suits are cheaper and have more options.
        Marines can do what you do but for a premium lol

        • Izak Lazarowski

          Crisis suits definitely have more options, but the point costs look like they are coming in about the same once you put weapons on them and the stat lines are not that different. Im not trying to make a point about “balance” though, people get way to entrenched. I just think those two things FEEL so similar and its sad when you think that Crisis suits use to be such a unique/defining aspect of a Tau army.

      • Drpx

        Approximate? Don’t you mean they—appropriate?

      • Spacefrisian

        You still cant go propper Gundam style with Tau.

    • Drpx

      “Waaah, we didn’t get a goofy-looking floaty-box tank! Where’s the love?”

      –Chaos/Xenos player reaction.

      • Jared van Kell

        Naturally. We are never happy unless we get to whine about how we are treated so poorly in comparison to the poster boys of the Imperium.

      • Tothe

        DA ORKS JUST LOOT DA HOOMIE FLOATY-TANKS AND DEN DA MEKS IMPROOV IT!

        • georgelabour

          Mostly by adding on a lot of wheels and jet engines.

          • Tothe

            AND LOTS UV DAKKA!

        • Drpx

          I wish they’d bring the looted rule back.

  • BaronVonYoloing

    Of course Magos Plot Armour has come along to show us that it is possible to make heavily armoured flying tanks! I wouldn’t be surprised if they were somehow faster or the same speed as Eldar ones. They just suck at engineering obviously!

    • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

      its sad really. Whatever happened to the gloriously backwards looking and Gothic Imperium that would take 2000 years to approve a new design for a bayonet? I miss those days.

      Down with Cawl! Make the Grimdark Great Again!

      • Ravingbantha

        That ended when Guilliman woke up and took over. He didn’t buy into that crap then and doesn’t now. So he’s all for advancing technology. It’s possible though, things like this will cause strife within the Empire, as many would think this new direction is Hersey.

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah. People keep peddling this awesome conclusion down the line, but I just don’t see it happening. This is just the new imperium, where grimdark is gone, and good guys have the “cool” stuff (aka flying sneaker cars).

          • Yeah, I don’t buy it either anymore. Underneath the fresh coat of Ultramarine blue, this is still the same old GW who just wants to sell more stuff to existing players and Numarines are perfect for that, grimdark be damned.

          • Hawt Dawg

            At least they kept the disgruntled “ex” players…

          • Not sure what you mean by “kept,” or by “disgruntled” for that matter. I haven’t bought a GW product in 3 years, and I consider myself perfectly gruntled in respect to my hobby. It would have been nice to use some models I haven’t been using, but I’m not really losing anything, because I wasn’t using them before.

          • ZeeLobby

            “But they responded to me on Facebook!”

          • kingcobra668

            Okay?
            1. It’s a business.
            2. Have you ever tried… not playing?

          • orionburn

            Such a shocking revelation. Companies making new product to make money. How evil!!!

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha, in GW’s defense, they did use to care a lot more about the setting then they do now.

          • orionburn

            Honestly I’ve just given up on caring…lol. There’s no perfect solution to any of this. People want the story to advance and that is going to make people angry. Personally I’m tired of the “we can travel through the warp and all but after 10,000 years we still haven’t figured out how to make a new microwave.” 😛

          • Xodis

            Yeah, the narrative of no new tech creations always seemed to be entirely connected to “If its different, it means you are a heretic” fear that spread through the Imperium and less because everyone was stupid or there were no resources.
            Personally I am glad its gone, and with it being 10K years in the making it makes sense.

          • ZeeLobby

            I’m sorry, but there were plenty of ways to advance the setting without having to have all the unknowns and “magic” technology removed from the universe. Heck any one of us could have written a plot ark that didn’t involve that. This is a fallacy we need to just let die. You’re better than this orion.

          • kloosterboer

            I don’t see where they’ve removed the unknowns and ‘ magic’ technology from the universe, though. Just because there’s a few new marines and vehicles doesn’t unravel 10,000 years of culture in the span of 2 days.

          • ZeeLobby

            they haven’t removed all of them. They’ve just opened the doors. They’re clearly not adverse to having someone sleep for 10K years and then reveal tons of secrets. Basically the plots becoming an amorphus blob. Now there are bubbles of time and space floating around. Soon they won’t have to write good literature to reveal or release anything…

          • orionburn

            I have some serious comment section burnout. For all the hatred people had with 7th and frustration with GW this should be a good time for most. Lately it seems things have actually gotten worse. All week it’s been rage about armies getting nerfed, despite all the complaining of armies being OP (which proved we love our own OP stuff. We just don’t want anyone else to have it.) Maybe I’m just naive for being optimistic. To me it just feels like we’re judging a new movie trilogy based solely on the trailer. I can’t keep up with all the books/campaigns as it is, and I’ve never been deep, deep into the lore. I love the 40k universe but don’t know it intimately. For me I’m happy the story is advancing and would rather see that than further stagnation.

          • ZeeLobby

            I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being optimistic. Just don’t let it cause you to throw logic out the window to defend something which is honestly quite silly. There’s no reason you can’t look at all of this with a balanced head. That said, you may really like the new direction the fluff is going in, but the reason the negativity is so strong is because many players, especially those who saw GW’s era of models first game second as a poor time in the hobby, loved the old fluff, and the grimdark aspects of it. I think people were hoping that not only would 8th bring back a balanced game that’s fun to play, but also bring back the good writing that was present before.

            Now personally I think that was kind of naive of them, as GW fired all those writers and game developers, so we’re never going to get the same feel as we had before 6th. On the other hand, if no one complains about it, GW will just continue steamrolling through the fluff and rules until there’s nothing left. I don’t think anyone wants that.

          • It’s more about feel for me than power level, and after digesting the Guard stuff, it just doesn’t feel right. The “anti-tank” version of the Russ will need an average of 3-4 GAMES to kill another Russ ( and forget about doing more than scratching the likes of an Imperial Knight). I’m a little salty myself today, because I hoped that this time would be different and I’m coming to terms with that not being the case. If you enjoy the game that is all that matters. Don’t let my, or anyone else’s, feelings about the game get to you. My dislike of the what I’ve seen so far is no reflection on you.
            At the same time, I’m not going to just shut up and go away. I’m not selling my models. I want 40k to be a game that I want to play, so I’ll be watching and waiting to see if that happens.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Well said its the feel. Oblits with one weapon, Russes with equal armour all round. Blast weapons that are rubbish against hordes. My cool Marines that arent cool any more. Tsons that only have three spells…..

            GW may have had good intentions and much of the simplification is needed, but like so many GW things the implementation fails at the last hurdle and the judgement on what is important fails.

          • Time to try out some other games then. Infinity is selling almost complete armies till the end of the day for 50 Euros, 😉

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I love the 40K setting too much to give up on it, like you. I’ll be playing 40K from time to time, I’m splitting a box with someone to get the rules. However I saw this coming and got into SAGA and Bolt Action a while ago. At my club a lot of guys have decided to start 30K as a way of having some continuity with 7th, some depth etc and games in the same setting, so I’ll be joining them and painting the 100x MKIII marines I have as Death Guard or Iron Warriors.

            I would start Gates of Antares if there was anyone up here who wanted to play it, but there aren’t many gamers on the remote Scottish island I live on!

          • georgelabour

            You mean back when they named their planets after famous bands, and just cribbed off of D&D character sheets when designing famous Astartes personalities?

            You know, back in the days that some people proclaim as the height of ‘originality’ for the company and or setting?

            🙂

          • ZeeLobby

            3rd-5th was the height of the game. That’s when they were pulling in the most sales, and grew to the size they are today. It’s when grimdark was actually born, and they cared what they wrote. Before then it was dudes in a basement, after then it was sales over everything. That’s pretty much the history of GW.

          • georgelabour

            No offense but if you have to use terms similar to ‘well everyone just knows this to be true’ it kind of shows that your entire statement is pure speculation.

            Anyone who studies internet argument structure pretty much agrees with this assessment.

            Also 3rd to 5th is when they stopped trying to be inventive and instead focused on blanding everything to death. Except for IG vehicles. Oh that was a magical time to be a treadhead back then during the early days of Forge World, and chapter approved…

            And then there were the balance, and rules issues……

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean Ive known a bunch of people from high ups to store managers who’ve worked for them. So that’s kind of what I was basing it off of. I mean after the exedus where they fired or forced out most of their designers and original staff is kind of an unknown. But their CEOs spoke for themselves.

            Lol. And in 6th and 7th there were no balance or rules issues? 1st and 2nd were completely im balanced and had 100+ rules for basic mechanics. 6th/7th was the first time we’d ever seen an entire faction (Eldar) be stronger than 80% of the rest of the game. 3rd through 5th was definitely the peak. There were some OP builds: nob bikers, leaf blower, etc. But whole factions weren’t broken or dumpster fires like 6th and 7th.

          • georgelabour

            I never said what I never said. Thus asking me about what was not said is kind of silly.

            Also I never said anything about the first two editions balance issues.

            All I’ve done is point out that your claims of ‘everyone was this way’ are fallacious, and that your preferred time period was notably stagnant in terms of creativity.

            As for whole factions being broken…well I’ve got a number of tales full of ‘everyones’ , and ‘anybodies’ from that time period. But we’ve well established that allegory and ancedotes are irrelevant.

            And a number of them involve games ending on turn one. Heck, the first shooting phase in a few cases involving the optional scenarios from 4th and 5th. 🙂

          • Man, I thought you were better than this. You know what I’m talking about here. Oh well, everybody lets you down eventually.

          • ZeeLobby

            Looks like he might have finally crossed that line. Xodis used to be pretty well centered as well. I guess there’s only one option once you’ve started defending GW. You must go full-on fanboy.

          • Xodis

            Feel free to explain how I went full fanboy. I’ve always criticized GW where I thought they did wrong and defended them where I thought they did right.

          • ZeeLobby

            Ive just always remembered you being more critical. You just seem to give most things a pass these days. I can’t even remember a thing you recently criticized.

          • Xodis

            I was cautious when they started rolling out 8e, I liked 90% of what I have seen, and have even switched places on a couple of positions like Oblits being useful….they are not once I saw more.

            I dont agree with a lot of the knee jerk reaction to the lore, although I could have done without the nuMarines, but as fas as technology advancing…its time. The Imperium is being ran by a man of science now, not the fearmongering humans that have caused the Imperium to wither.

          • orionburn

            Sorry…as I said to Zee I’m just having massive comment section burnout. Time to take a break from the intranets. Isn’t like I couldn’t be painting my 6 month backlog of models.

          • Coltcabunny

            Hail Corporate!

          • Valeli

            I don’t think anyone is objecting to a new product to make money. The objection is that the new product has taken a really odd design and veered away from the old product.

            GW could certainly have put out more consistent new products if they had wanted to, and would still have had new things to sell.

            No one minds new things to sell.

          • Jared van Kell

            What is this witchcraft you speak off?

          • 1. “Business is business and business must grow!” – the Once-ler
            2. I haven’t played in some time. I still have the models though, in the hopes that at some point GW puts this dumpster fire out. 8th does not appear to be that time.
            Here’s a couple for you.
            1. It’s ok for people to not like things you like.
            2. Have you ever tried … just ignoring those people. Because if you like the game, then trying to run off people who are on the fence about playing doesn’t make any sense.

          • What do you mean by ‘it’s ok for people to not like things you like’? We’re in the damn internet, everyone has to be the same opinion as me and whoever is not is a damn whiner I have to mock about!

          • Apparently my disinterest in NuMarines offends the man. I’ve always wondered if these people do this in real life as well. I mean, I like olives, but I don’t go up to people at the sub shop and demand that they put olives on their sandwich or gtfo. That would be insane.

          • Stealthbadger

            I think they’ll sell stuff to existing players and new players with this line, what with the focus on them. Seems a good idea really.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          also cause strife among the fanbase!

        • georgelabour

          If I may interject. This isn’t really an advance in technology nor a sweeping change to the way the Imperium handles tech.

          ‘new’ vehicles and items are made all the time by the Mechanicus merely breaking out a set of STC ‘legos’ and cobbling what they want out of things that are already approved for production. E.G: Rammiles class Star forts, storm raven, any number of Leman Russ and Chimera variants.

          We also know certain tech becomes restricted due to ancient pronouncements from august bodies that later can not be rescinded as there’s no higher authority to do so. E.G: Land Raiders, and Land Speeders being astartes only.

          In this case we have bits from the rhino/predator family mated to the grav plates used in Astartes flyers like the Stormwolf.

          Oh, and let’s not forget that anti-grav tech isn’t a lost art in the Imperium. There’s even some ‘civilian’ versions of it in use on various worlds.

          Heck power boards are still a thing!

          • Ravingbantha

            I don’t know if it’s been retconned or not, but once upon a time the story was that the gear the Empire uses was only made because they still had those STC’s. Things like R&D and reverse engineering were forbidden because that kind of free thinking is what lead to the Horus Hersey in the first place.

            Some things that were still in use, like land speeders, were very limited because the STC’s for anti grab were lost. So they had to keep rebuilding what they had left. whenever a new vehicle or weapon came out, it was attributed to the rediscovery of a lost STC.

            Then again, maybe that s the old info, and I’m not up to date on the new hip Empire

          • georgelabour

            In the imperium foribdden just means normal people without money or power can’t do it.

            And when you’re an archmagos with a vast chunk of Mars under your control, your own fleet, and a decree signed One of the emperor’s most famous sons. Heck it’s possibly signed by the big E himself……

            And again if the mechanicus discovers a lost STC template, and it passes a long certification process, the imperium will make ‘new’ stuff using it. They’ll also incorporate anything from it into extant designs.

            All of that’s been pretty consistent throughout the various iterations of the game. While some of it’s more fleshed out the basics have always been there.

        • Drpx

          “Guys, I know this sounds crazy, but I had a lot of time to think while in stasis and I wondered, what if we had FREE ELECTIONS and EVERY citizen got to vote?”

          Rest of Imperium: “PUT HIM BACK IN!” 0_0

      • euansmith

        It would be fun to have a story thread running along side these new releases about instability in this dangerous new tech.

        Maybe rumours of Primaris Marines who unexpectedly “Hulk Out” or anecdotes about troops getting persistent headaches from being around Grav-Rhinos, leading to insanity and even possession.

        None of it would need to be included in the official fluff/Imperial propaganda.

        • Drpx

          The story will be, “Crawl was looking for the remote under his sofa cushion one night and found some STCs lost since the Great Crusade.”

          • euansmith

            I quite like the idea that Guilliman tasked Cawl with “Make Me Better Marines”, and that Cawl has spend 10,000 years doing just that, while having to hide his project from those who fear new technology. So that, when Guilliman returns, Cawl can whip the covers off and go, “Ta-daaaa!”

        • Spacefrisian

          I hope not, that would sound as a lame idea. And i want Gloryhammer marines, like that power metal band.

      • Rafał Pytlak

        I actually never liked the whole “hur durr were stupid religious folk that worships technology and are in a knowledge decay”. For me it’s not possible to not make something newer and better in 10 millenia, no matter how backwards the “government” is. Bout time they cooked something new.
        It only sounds silly that a guy like Cawl been under the radar of every faction for 10 000 years…

        • Drpx

          It was never supposed to be taken seriously.

          • Rafał Pytlak

            Yeah, but if you listen to some people here you can think it IS taken waaaaay to much,seriously 😉

      • georgelabour

        You mean the imperium that had anti gravity tanks that looked like deodorant bottles with guns attached?

        Also Cawl has been working on this stuff for 10,000 years. That’s about 7 or 8 millenia longer than it took to get the Storm Raven out of beta testing.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          30k Custodes still have those tanks!

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          Problem is we all know GW just wrote this in. Its so clumsy. No hints or Easter Eggs in previous fluff makes it feel tacked on, and the change in feel means it doesn’t gel with existing fluff.

          • georgelabour

            You mean hints like the anti-grav rhinos that’ve cropped up in some of the discussions about the Horus Heresy?

            Or mentions in the lore that certain machines aren’t allowed to be produced and or distributed due to proclamations made by higher powers which never got rescinded?

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Those grav rhinos are for custodes and the tech to make them lost. So Cawl was hiding that tech the whole time, doing the Imperium a huge amount of damage? All those battles that might have been won?

            The tech prohibition refers to Land Raiders being exclusive to Marines.

          • georgelabour

            Grav-tech in the Imperium is not lost. Rather it’s become rarer and those who can still produce it and or make the rules keep it limited in applications.

            Otherwise pretty much everything that flies in the Imperium would not function. Heck, their starships wouldn’t work anymore either.

            Unless you wanted an interesting way to turn thousands of people into instant blobs of free floating meat jelly. Then they’d be great.

            And before you say ‘well this thing back in the day said it was a lost art’. They also say that about titans, warp drives, and plasma weapons but the Imperium can still make them. Some places can even make better versions than others.

            Which is again, because those Mechanicus guys (like Cawl) are(often literally) sitting on the knowledge and refusing to share, and no one with a higher rank is around to force the issue.

      • Spacefrisian

        No one complained about Dark Eldar revamp, but revamp marines and hell breaks lose.

        • The Dark Eldar didn’t reinvent their own fluff and personality though. They simply got more ‘mature’ in the model’s appearances.

          • Thomas

            And, and this bit is key, the 5th edition revamped fluff and aesthetic for Dark Eldar was AMAZING. It wasn’t full of Mary Sues who were just “better” at everything. It perfectly captured the spirit of a society full of pseudo-vampiric, immortal, technologically advanced and depraved schemers.

            The new marine fluff is “Archmagos Plot Armour has spent 10k years secretly making marines that are even more Marine-y than other marines!”

      • Samuel Davidson

        Bear in mind we only know what’s going on in half the Imperium just now, the other half is stuck out getting slaughtered on the other side of the Cicatrix Maledictum (Great Rift) will end up more backward than ever once it IS re-united into the Imperial fold.

    • Agent of Change

      This is why I refer to that walking fluff atrocity as “Deus Ex Mechanicum”

      • ZeeLobby

        Haha, perfect.

    • Old zogwort

      We all know its eldar tech, made by their most loyal minions ; )

    • JPMcMillen

      Well, considering some of those flying bricks that space marine use, this seems way more believable.

      • ZeeLobby

        They finally perfected THE flying brick, lol.

        • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

          First person to take an actual brick and stick the jets, turret, grav plates etc on it wins the internet.

    • Mr.Gold

      just need a transport for the AdMech now…

  • kloosterboer

    I like it. Who’s surprised by that?

    • Hawt Dawg

      Not me, but I support free will and taste.

      I like it as well but no 40K for me (too much to paint).

  • Badtucker

    access hatches mean nothing in 8th 😀

    • No, but probably in 9th or 10th.

    • kingcobra668

      Okay?

  • The new edition hasn’t even hit yet and I’m already burnt out on Space Marine releases. If AoS is anything to go by (and it is), then brace yourselves non-marine players. Winter isn’t coming, it’s already here.

    • kingcobra668

      Have you ever tried… walking away from your computer for a bit and not obsessively checking rumours and blogs?
      You really sound like your own worst enemy.

      • Have you ever tried… walking away from your computer for a bit and not obsessively commenting on obsessive rumour and blog comments?
        You really sound like their worst enemy.

      • So you’ve appointed yourself GW troll for the day, how cute.

        • ZeeLobby

          Eh, they rotate. Not sure if kingcobra is up there with wibbling or Randy. But he’s pretty close.

          • Don’t think I’ve ever crossed words with him before, but I’ve been giving GW the benefit of the doubt lately. Now that the majority of 8th has leaked and I’ve had a chance to digest it, it’s pretty obvious that not much has changed beyond their tone.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. I mean even during the CEO transition you could see the veneer glossing over most of their releases. The core money money money drive is still underneath. They’ve just changed their public persona to attract more fans, lol.

          • The balance and play testing talk kind of grinds my gears. You never had it before and no one was expecting it, so why talk about it unless you actually did a decent job of it.

          • ZeeLobby

            Probably because they’ve also said they’ll rebalance things if they’re not balanced. SO it really doesn’t have to be balanced to start (which it won’t be) but then they can be like, we tried to get it as best as possible so you could help us balance it later.

            I mean sure they talked about playtesting and balance, etc. But does anyone actually know how much they did? Like was it just the Las Vegas open guys visiting for a weekend? Etc. I mean even then, 10 guys aren’t going to find what 1000 players find in the first day. I dunno. I think it was a lot of show.

          • Considering that the web already found multiple examples of existing gear-options for units not having entries in the points-tables already shows that it can’t have been all that thoroughly. But of course it’s marketing-speech. It’ll be great, you’ll see! (just buy it first and if it doesn’t meet your expectations or our advertisement, your fault to believe in it in the first place)

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. Needless to say we’ve already got the rulebook and the first 5. If our group doesn’t enjoy the first month of playing, we’ll probably can it and go back to what we picked up during 6th/7th.

          • That’s what I’m getting too. I think the ITC guys got suckered and their names got used to give it legitimacy, because there is no way some of the crap I’ve seen got play tested by a competent player. All this has done is hurt their reputations. I’m boxing my IG stuff up and waiting for the codex, which, assuming GW will do the NuMarines the way they did the Sigmarines, will be in 3 or 4 years.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha. I dunno. Look who we’re leaving to play. Are you sure you’d want to rejoin that in 3/4 years?

  • ZeeLobby

    Bahahahahahahahahahahaha! (Sorry, just think it looks so goofily blinged). I mean is it just me or does it look like a flying sneaker?

    • The template for the tank was unearthed by that new Chapter the Nike Warriors.

      • ZeeLobby

        I know all mine are coming with a swoosh!

      • Goatsplitter

        Wow– I have been thinking alot about my new chapter– colors, what to name them, ect. The Justdoit Knights of Oregus Prime just hit the short list.

        • euansmith

          “Resistance is proving stiffer than expected from these accursed Reeborkz.”

          “Just send in another wave of child labourers.”

          • Rafał Pytlak

            That sounds pretty in-universe to me :]

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            Haha thats classic Euansmith!

    • Pain_Glove

      this thing really has something of a hovering sneaker (of course an armoured Primaris Space Marine Sneaker) … I will wait for the real model to show up at my FLGS regarding final judgement – but the Repulsor seems a bit too much to me … either the hull mounted gun or the turret has to go – both definately is too much (even for the Poster Boys of NewHammer)

    • Spacefrisian

      That honor goes to the SW Stormwolf.

      • ZeeLobby

        Well this is the dudes club foot then.

  • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

    I like it as a model, looks cool. Shame it is attached to the disastrous new Primaris fluff.

    Also kind of a shame that Custodes are now not the only imperials with grav vehicles.

    At my club we are talking about sticking to Warhammer 39,999 (no Primaris marines), or at least making that a ‘thing’ so we can request a game without Primarchs and Primarisis (Primarisi?).

    • Pain_Glove

      I vote for Primarii 😉

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        yeah that looks right 🙂

  • Agent of Change

    Once again Deus Ex Mechanicum to the rescue……

  • stinkoman

    that flight base tho

  • Sam Nolton

    Jesus talk about throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.

    • NovaeVox

      Primaris marines = super specialized squads.

      Repulsor tank = allied detachment in a box.

    • Drpx

      More like everything on the model.

  • PrimoFederalist

    It’s not very pretty, but I love that they’re being true to the fluff and working with existing STCs!

    • True to what? The tech of Land Raiders in the fluff was so rare that building new ones was basically magic and took ages and the Imperium didn’t have any grav-tech to let things bigger than LandSpeeders fly. This flying Land Raider is anything, but not true to the fluff. Not to mention all the other new technologies the Imperium is creating at a finger-snip. That’s not how the 40k fluff worked when it comes to imperial tech! Not even close.

      • ZeeLobby

        yeah, fluff is probably a stretch.

      • Land raiders used to be in service to every branch of the imperium because they could make so many of them. During the horus heresy limited production meant that the emperor decreed that whatever they could get would go to the space marines. He was enthroned before he could recind that order. THAT is why only marines get access to them

        • You’re still missing that producing Land Raiders has turned to magic and the main knowledge being nearly entirely lost over the course of 10k years, new technology being rejected as heresy and the Imperium being at stagnation entirely. That’s at least the 40k fluff I used to love. Not everyone was a happy hopping pony and going bigger and better with everything.

          • Except that this is an individual who literally lived BEFORE THAT ALL HAPPENED. We have no idea how far after the events of the gathering storm 8th edition starts

          • Actually this is a flying Land Raider.

          • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

            Mars was a contested warzone with marginal diplomatic ties to the rest of the Imperium for the better part of 10,000 years (source: Mechanicum). Thwarted assassination attempts aside, no torch-wielding mob would ever make landfall there, and with everyone else fighting each other there, they’d never really notice what Cawl was doing.

          • ZeeLobby

            yes, we know, the dumbest plot twist in history has made all this stupid possible… sigh…

  • Emprah

    And thus spake the Spiritual Liege: Eldar and Tau, suck on our grav!

  • Hawt Dawg

    Let the “I hate it but will buy tons” posts come forth!

  • What happened to my beloved Imperium, so dark, morbid and sinister and praying to old machines, unable to invent new ones? The Imperium I found always to be an actually interesting lore instead of Superman-over-the-top-everything-is-shiny-new? I guess “we’re da best and shiniest” just sells better to the kids, ah? 40k pretends to be all dark and everything, but these shining and excelling new inventions the Imperium is bombing out tell a different story.

  • Muninwing

    a grav-landraider with a predator turret, covered in missiles like it was tau-designed…

    no idea what to do with this one.

  • Frank Krifka

    lol. It looks like a variation on pretty much every other space marine tank to me. I’m reading all the comments about how it’s this huge departure from the traditional marine aesthetic and i just don’t see it. Maybe my neckbeard isn’t bushy enough?

    • ZeeLobby

      i mean it’s flying. That’s kind of the departure. LoL

      • Frank Krifka

        Right… because the stormtalon, thunderhawk, and landspeeders didn’t already look like landraiders with wings? Hell, the stormraven is even colloquially referred to as a “flying metal box”.

        • ZeeLobby

          i mean but this is literally a flying metal box. Well and technically it has grav, a technology lost to history (well til the plot just gave up)

          • Frank Krifka

            So… fluff right? You do realize that it’s not real right? And that in most fiction things that aren’t supposed to happen usually do, and that people who are dead only stay dead maybe 50% of the time?

          • Still, that doesn’t mean it will fit this genre. I mean if in Star Wars teleporting would be thing, fans would also upcry. Or Lightsabres in Star Trek.

          • Xodis

            You mean like this?
            http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Teleport

            Or the Karpa Sword?

          • ZeeLobby

            Rare force ability vs public transit is kind of different… I mean in star trek you could take one to the crapper

          • Xodis

            But Teleporting is still a thing….also what about the Karpa sword? Still proves the point.

          • ZeeLobby

            I believe he meant teleporting as a means of common technological travel. Which honestly would upset many Star Wars fans. C’mon man, your strawmaning it here. You know perfectly well what he was implying.

          • Xodis

            I know what he is implying but I also disagree with it. My whole point was that no IP is ever “pure” like one may believe so its not a Strawman.
            Every IP has something that seems “odd” and most of fans simply ignore it. If anything is odd its been how the Imperiam has some fetish about skulls when they are constantly at war with a deity who praisestaking skulls and making art with it.
            Grav is so common in 40K Imperial scientists make freaking pets using it and a skull. So make the tank fluffy and just glue a bunch of Servo skulls underneath.

          • ZeeLobby

            “My whole point was that no IP is ever “pure” like one may believe”

            You do realize this was never the argument he was attempting to make? Hence strawman. Of course grav exists in 40K, but when you build fluff up for 30 years saying that a technology is lost or that building new STC vehicles is impossible because the templates have gone missing, and that technology has been degrading this entire time, throwing in a 180 is pretty upsetting. It would be the equivalent to mass teleportation transit just being introduced into Star Wars. There is a difference between what you’re arguing, “nothing is 100% pure”, and what he’s arguing, “universe changing plot twist are upsetting”.

          • Xodis

            It was exactly the argument he was making. Grav only existed in a minor form and was long forgotten, and now it just popped back up, which is counter to the established lore of the IP, which is why I disagree.
            Most technological stagnation was due to the High Lords of Terra and people in charge, now that those people are no longer in charge, or at least have a Primarch backing them, technology can get back to pushing humanity and the Imperium forward. The need to rely on ancient STC’s was because invention was Heresy and punishable by execution, so an STC was like a licence to build, not a needed blue print for the building. Degrading technology goes back to the requirement of STCs in order to do anything, just because some Techno-Magus is smart enough to fix a Rhino, why would he risk being executed in order to do so?
            StarWars has Teleporting in a very limited form, much like how Jedi were limited, Sith were limited, etc… but as the stories progress (or the Eras changed Hence Legacy and Old Republic)if a reasonable explaination is given, say its a basic Force Power for an entirely new cult, then its normally accepted wither its good or not. Witches, Rangers, Baron Do, etc… are all small cults that came with unique force abilities. If those cults somehow become more prominent, or a new race like the Yuuzon Vong shows up with the technology….there would be no issue, because its already established lore that its possible in the universe.

          • Then I obviously don’t know these two settings well enough. Sorry, I guess you can find better examples than me as I’m sure you understand the point I was trying to make.

          • Nah, your point was still valid. Teleporting was a very rare thing in *some* of the more far-fetched Expanded Universe material, which never had actual Canon status. In the reset Canon, it does not exist. At all.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            You are wrong about the Canon. Almost everything in the EU was C Canon, which was the baseline canon for everything not in the TV shows or movies.

          • Yes, it was C-Canon but all that means is that it was ranked down the line behind movies and TV. It was subject to retcons as the movies or TV shows saw fit. Thrawn was supposed to be in The Clone Wars (and under current Canon, that unproduced material IS canon, same as other material they didn’t get to realize due to the buyout), but like the CW take on the Vong that was planned, it’d have contradicted the C-Canon at least partially.
            C-Canon was moldable and overwriteable with ease, and conflicts existed even between C-Canon works.

            It existed, until contradicted by something higher-ranking. It was tolerated, but never got the actual full acknowledgement and wouldn’t have been a matter further movies or TV shows would’ve respected.

            In the new Canon, everything is being respected as a part of the setting and the Story Group keeps an eye on potential conflicts or stories better told later. The GTCSDN canon ranking system does not exist under the current setting anymore and all the EU got scrapped. Everything being published, be they movies, novels, comics or short stories are canon and to be respected by everything else going forward. It is highly questionable if something like teleport tech or even teleport force powers will fly under the new banner.

          • Xodis

            I do, but my point is that no matter how “pure” some fans believe their choice IP is, it really never is.
            In this instance I am a fan of keeping the “Grim Dark” of a galaxy at war and hope is all but gone, and removing the “Grim Dark” of technological stagnation, because honestly the reasons they were stagnant are already gone.
            Guilliman is a product of advancement in a time where Humanity thrived due to science and at the exclusion of religion. He woke to the exact opposite of that, and as the clear leader of the Imperium (which may be argued by the High Lords of Terra hence Civil War) its only rational that he would lead with those ideals and in that direction. Had Cowle or whatever been caught creating all of these thing without the support of a Primarch he would have been executed for Heresy, and of that I have no doubts, and all of this advancement would have been lost. When a Primarch, says its ok, I find it hard to believe many would argue.

            All in all what 8e is bringing is that fun and advancements of the HH to the current galactic date.

          • Frank Krifka

            Space knight that can magically move things with their minds = totally plausible.
            A machine that can convert matter into energy then back to matter again? Now you’ve gone too far…

            if you were standing within 10 feet of me when I typed that you could actually hear my eyes roll.

          • You didn’t get the point. Like at all.

          • Frank Krifka

            No i get the point. But it’s not a very good or convincing one.

          • I don’t need to convince you. There will be people who can totally understand and agree with what I wrote. You don’t need to understand them either. It’s ok.

          • Frank Krifka

            Oh it’s perfectly ok and I do understand. Everybody it entitled to their opinion, even people who believe the earth is flat, and sure, they’ll hang out with other flat earthers and talk about how right they are.

            But on the same note, my opinion is just as valid as yours. And my opinion is that your opinion is ridiculous.

          • Fine. You can make fun of me, I don’t give a damn 🙂

          • Frank Krifka

            Not making fun of you. That would be mean. I’m just pointing out that you sound ridiculous.

          • Which is basically the same. You’re mocking me. But go on.

          • Frank Krifka

            Nope. I said your opinion is ridiculous. Which means:

            ri·dic·u·lous: rəˈdikyələs

            adjective

            deserving or inviting derision or mockery; absurd.

            I think your opinions are absurd and deserving of mockery. That doesn’t mean I personally, am now, at this point in time, mocking you. However, if somebody *were* to mock you for it, I’d say you deserve it; your opinion is ridiculous.

          • Keep going. You seem to need it.

          • Frank Krifka

            Aww aren’t you sweet.

            I’m actually bored as hell right now so in some small way your probably right. If I might ask, what are you getting out of all this?

          • Nothing, I’m just feeding the troll.

          • Frank Krifka

            Ah.

          • Drpx

            JJ Abrams practically did both those.

          • Ah, that argument again. Because it is fiction everything goes and whatever comes next doesn’t need to play by the rules the setting established for itself over the course of 30 years.

            Seriously, fiction needs to be internally consistent to a certain degree to work and feel believable. It is not about things being necessarily “realistic”, but “plausible” within their own limitations and rules.

          • ZeeLobby

            that’s what fanboys thrive off of these days. Its sad, cause normally fanboys defend the lore. But in this case they’ll just take whatever GW gives, regardless of what it is.

          • Frank Krifka

            I was actually a lit major, so believe me when I say “No. It doesn’t”.

          • Oh, is this the time where we throw credentials into the air to try and magically make our arguments work?

          • Isn’t that how it works? “I’m better than you therefor I win this argument!”

          • Frank Krifka

            it’s not matter of making my arguments work. It’s a matter that you made a blanket statement that’s factually incorrect. I only mentioned I was a lit major to give context to my original statement. I could give examples too, if you wanted, but I have a feeling you have neither the time nor the inclination to care so I’ll refrain.

          • Coltcabunny

            My epeen is bigger than your epeen.

          • Frank Krifka

            To bad your wit isn’t as big as your epeen.

          • Coltcabunny

            To quote a great man from another forum-

            Who said anything about that, either? But yeah, a little internal reason
            and logic helps in a fantasy setting. I’m sick to the back teeth of the
            “it’s fantasy, anything goes!” argument because it’s a lazy-arse
            handwave by thoughtless people, ignorant of the kind of thought and
            effort that can go into creating a consistent, structured setting and
            story, whether it has dragons and magic in it or not.
            If logic and reason mean nothing in fantasy, then hell, forget eagles, why didn’t Frodo just click his heels, spin on the spot three times and call out “watchu talkin’ about, Willis?” to get to Mount Doom? Why didn’t Ned
            Stark leap up from the chopping block and say “Woops! Hahaha! The thing
            you didn’t realise, of course, is that my neck is akshullee made entirely out of titanium.”

          • Xodis

            This fiction IS internally consistent with itself though.
            -Invention has been a heretical prospect for 10K years.
            -Guilliman who is partially responsible for its release into mainstream doesn’t buy into that Emperor = God crap anyways, he believes in science like his father.
            -Crawl or whatever his name is as the other partially responsible person, is another mad techno scientist like all the rest who usually acts first and thinks later.
            -Without each other this never would have came to pass, but with each other Crawl found someone with enough authority to support his ideas.
            -Nothing released so far is brand new and defies any previous set laws in the fiction, its just reusing what was once available and making it new again.
            Everything is internally consistent with the same lore as before, only now there isn’t a bunch of crazy zealots out to kill anyone who dares to think (that we have currently seen).

          • ZeeLobby

            Totally. So what you’re saying is “throw your hands in the air, and just don’t care!” Thank god there is a world of fiction out there that doesn’t just do that, lol.

          • Frank Krifka

            That’s not what I’m saying at all.

            What I’m saying is that in fiction, anything is plausible given the right explanation. Stuff that’s not supposed to happen (or that’s impossible) happens all the time in fiction. That’s why its called fiction. It doesn’t ever matter whether something wasn’t possible in the first chapter, or the second of the 30th. What matters is if the process that brought about the “whatever it is” fits in the context of the story as it exists “right now”.

            I don’t know the justification for how this tank was created, but when everybody throws their hands in the air and screams ” A floating tank? Impossible!!!” in a world with evil space elves, a hostile alternate dimension that constantly tears holes in real space, and soldiers who’ve been alive for thousands of years, it makes one roll ones eyes.

            Originally I was commenting that the tank design looks pretty similar to whats been released previously (as far as aesthetically). But even though i wasn’t commenting on the implausibility of it’s existence, I find the refusal to suspend disbelief a bit laughable.

          • That’s fine. You’re allowed to have a different opinion. But so are we.

          • Rafał Pytlak

            Well, what was lost and forgotten can be refound and be rediscovered anew.

            – “Hey, boss-Cawl, we found some old STC with a hoovering tank, who knew?”

            – “Good one boys, for the Omnisiah 0101010”
            Here, there’s your explanation, satisfied?

        • Those are ACTUALLY FLYING and have WINGS. This is a GRAV vehicle floating above ground, which is tech that got lost ten millennia ago. The Imperium can’t even make proper Jetbikes anymore, but a hovertank of Land Raider proportions, loaded with a squad of Super Space Marines and weapons out the wazoo is suddenly possible again?

          Nevermind that grav rhinos were mindboggling to even the Inquisition a mere 1500 years post-Heresy when the Silent Sisterhood revealed they had one in hiding/exile with them.

  • Next up: Primaris Marines on Jetbikes. I’m betting money on this.

    • Emprah

      That will surely happen.

    • SilentPony

      Jetbikes? Stop being so last season. Hover Dreadnoughts, warp-capable Terminators and thunderhawks that transform into Primaris Gladius-Class DreadKnights.

      • euansmith

        Actually, I think that Warp Capable Terminators could actually be quite cool. Something like a cross between an over-sized Terminator and an Electro-Priest.

        • You mean between Terminators and Warp Spiders.

          • SilentPony

            No. Like a cross between an X-Wing and a Terminator.
            One dude in a suit, with a gellar field, warp engine, and maybe a bolted on navigator, capable of traveling across the galaxy in literal seconds to deepstrike anywhere.

            Anything less is just silly.

          • euansmith

            😀 I was thinking more about the model. Lots of Eltro-Priest/Cygnar power coils sticking of of their back and shoulders.

  • Rainthezangoose

    Cool model, complete bastardisation of the fluff.

    • WhenDidVicesBecomeVirtues

      Pretty much sums it up. Not sure where they are going with the traditional IP. My guess is they felt the design aesthetic would not appeal to newer players who are more exposed to Starcraft and Star Trek types of scifi.

      • ZeeLobby

        Yeah, if only they made the transition much smoother. Then again, GW has never been big on smooth transitions.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Except for the fact that the Custodes still had Grav Tanks, every Dark Angels chapter had jetbikes, every chapter has land speeders, etc.

      The only reason grav was not abundant in the Imperium was because the Mechanicum was so backwards looking after the Age of Apostasy. The Mechanicum was not incapable of innovating or making new things (as evidenced by the new types of Land Raiders and Predators created since the heresy and the Ironstrider Engine). There have always been those in the Mechanicum that push the limits and try to innovate. They just never had an advocate powerful enough to support them (and now they have it in the form of Guilliman and Cawl0.

      • euansmith

        I thought it was because there were models available 😉

      • Crevab

        The Emperor’s personal body guards had grav tanks. In m41, Dark Angels, the chapter known for relics, was renowned for having A jetbike. Vehicles with a simple weapon swap go through centuries of approval. The guy that made the Ironstrider was executed for heresy.

        Stop pretending this isn’t a change

    • greenskin
      • What if I told you 40k used to have Space Dwarfs and Lizards and that Space Marines were criminals and prisoners? That aera is no more. Well, obviously at least the things benefitial for Marines are back.

        • SilentPony

          What if I told you early Rogue Trader had female space marines, before the idea of Genetic enhancement was a thing…

  • StevenLockey

    Knowing GW, it will be completely OP to force users to buy the new model

    • Of course it will, it’s Primaris!

    • SWISSchris

      This is, and has been, GW’s business model for as long as I’ve been interested in 40k (very tail end of Rogue Trader…)

    • Drpx

      Comes with the Ward Canon. Misspelling is intentional.

  • Jan-Hendrik Burghardt

    I dub thee Roidspeeder

    • euansmith

      Not “Roidraider”? Though that sounds like some exercise gear off QVC.

  • Tom Fägrell

    The dude in the hatch is definitely Primaris (look at the abs). I’m telling you – GW will not be releasing any new minimarines ever again. It’s going to be Primaris only from here on out.

    • Yea, we all know 😉

    • rtheom

      Hey, they’re gonna try their darndest to sell out of their warehouse stock of Rhinos and Land Raiders first at least. 😉

      • They will melt them, re-sell them as Primaris-stuff and earn double the money. Problem solved.

        • ZeeLobby

          lol

  • euansmith

    I see that Imperial design still hasn’t moved on from the days of disembarking straight in to the sponsons weapons on your Landraider.

    On this one, disembark from the side hatches in to the back wash from the grav plates (“Waaaah-ay! Look at me, Ma, I’m flyin’!” Thump), or disembark from the rear hatch in to the hot gases venting from the drive array (“Aaaagh! I’m melting!”).

    • rtheom

      Power armor, bro. Power armor.

      • euansmith

        Good point, but I want a rule that say, “Troops disembarking from the side hatches can be placed up to 12” away from the vehicle, but suffer a mortal wound on a roll of “1”. ” 😉

    • Chet Atkinson

      Couldn’t have put it better myself! 🙂

    • As an Eldar-player, I have to admit I never thought about how dumb rear-doors actually are. Not only because they don’t allow for assault-vehicles, but in general due to the engines.

    • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

      Why I love my Achilles Alpha: the doors are in the right place.

  • Chet Atkinson

    It looks like nonsensical kit-bashing of the worst kind.

    • Coltcabunny

      Well, The Mastadon also exists, but this is much worse.

      • Chet Atkinson

        I like the mastodon – wish they did one in plastic.

  • Graham Roden

    It’s not a plastic Sicaran

  • david

    Reminds me of vehicles as seen in comics. The most famous is Dredd’s Manta prowl tank.

  • memitchell

    I like the manned (Marinned?) minigun. The rest of it is something my 14 year-old COD playing son would have designed (but with even more Lascannons).

    • ZeeLobby

      Hehe, I remember drawing tanks with 15 barrels popping out :D.

      • memitchell

        Attach one of the drawings to a resume and send it to GW. You might get an interview and a free tour of Warhammer World. Or, heck, a job offer.

        • lol

        • ZeeLobby

          “I call it… The Regurgitator! It catches the enemies bullets in an invisible forcefield, eats them, and then spits them back out!”

  • I like the overall design, but some points…

    1) Why make the circular spots directly above the grav plates look like there used to be wheels in there?

    2) Linked las-cannons in fixed forward mount on the hull is funky looking and bad design.

    3) The turret is way way too busy and clashes with the clean look of the main hull.

    The overall impression is very toy-like instead of the grittier realism of other Marine vehicle designs.

    • ZeeLobby

      Well, with increases in scale, and adding lots of flash to everything, I’ve long felt they’re heading more towards Action Figures for Kids than really designing to an aesthetic.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        Looks at the new Tau models, the new Primaris Marines, the new Thousand Sons models and the new Nurgle models. GW has been going this way for a while

        • ZeeLobby

          Well 3 of those you listed were just in the past 6 months. So not really for that long. Tau have always just been anime robots. LoL

      • SWISSchris

        I usually love Jes Goodwin designs (his sketchbooks are so nice!) but the new primaris dread and tank are making me seriously question this opinion

  • piglette

    Repulsor is a fittinng name 🤢

  • SacTownBrian

    “Daddy where do Repulsor tanks come from?”

    “Well son, when a daddy Land Raider and a mommy Land Speeder love each other…”

  • SilentPony

    More than meets the eye!

  • Bootneck

    Just seen this, and if this is accurate i’d still rather have a LR

    Power level 14

    S7 T8 W13 Sv3+
    Turret – Heavy Lascannon, Heavy Stubber
    *Resolve shots with Heavy Stubber first, if the Heavy Lascannon targets a unit hit by the Stubber, it may reroll misses

    Hull-mounted Twin Lascannon, swivels up/down and left/right

    Rotor cannon is a pintle mounted upgrade

    Missiles: Roll a D6 at the start of each fight phase for each enemy unit within 1″, on a 4+ it takes D3 mortal wounds (slightly better Frag Assault Launchers)

    Transport Capacity 7, can only transport Primaris Marines

    Decays its Movement/BS/Attacks as it loses wounds
    Movement 10″ BS 3+ Attacks 3 base

    • helter266

      “can only transport Primaris Marines” i find that hard to belive, but if that is the case, this is useless for me. Gonna stick to my land riders,

  • Jim Cook

    *Finally*, the Astartes get a Merkava. I still want a Razorback with an autocannon, coax heavy stubber, and twin hunter-killer missiles.
    :3

  • TheGarfuncle .

    The Imperium has had grav-tank technology since well before the Heresy, it was just limited to the Custodes. The Imperium is hardly innovating or advancing, just digging up and remixing all of its oldest and best stuff because guess what…the Imperium is more screwed then ever before. It’s on its last legs. Cawl is obviously looking at the Custodes for inspiration for the Primaris Marines. Both in their genetic modifications and armory. This isn’t Heresy. Heresy would be taking Necron Guass Rifles and slapping them on Predators. There is a difference.

    • Thing is that basically everything was heresy, even if it shouldn’t have been from our point of view. That’s what made 40k so nicely and ridiculously dark.

  • TDog

    This is all well and good – trust me, I want to get a bunch of these – but all I have to say is GW had better not forget all the other armies and factions out there.

    If the Astartes get a ton of cool new toys and miniatures and Necron only get infantry with new poses, I will be p!$$ed.

    • kloosterboer

      I’d think you’d be used to it, by now. It’s the Emperor’s Galaxy, after all.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Because we did not get an entirely new range for T-Sons, Genestealers and Plague Marines in the last year.

  • greenskin

    Even the REAL Dark Ages ended at some point. All Hail the Imperium Renascent. Bring on the Truscale line, GW. I will buy it on eBay in a couple years once I finish painting these tiny Sternguard.

  • Thatroubleshootah

    Can dark angels and blood angels use this tank.

    • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

      Probably?

  • Deathwing

    all those mini rockets – point defense weapons to give it extra attacks the first time it engages in close combat – cause vehicles do that now lol

  • Witch Beatrice

    STAR TOURS at disneyland?? It looks like the simulator ride for Star Wars in disneyland.

  • Iconoc1ast

    Sweeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!

  • Sureia

    So, it’s a less dangerous, potentially deep-striking Land Raider?

  • Robby Simme

    I don’t like it. I love it!!

  • Sleeplessknight

    Repulsor grav tank? more like repulsive grav tank. Ugh! I don’t like it.

  • Evil Otto
  • SWISSchris

    Ummmmmm… the more primaris stuff I see, the less I like them. i really liked the intercessors and plasma dudes but the dread and now this are both, to my eyes, hideous.

  • Drpx

    Starting to edge way too close to Star Wars for my tastes.

  • Mr.Gold

    senn the superheavy guard rules – the Shadowsword Volcano cannon: 120″, Heavy D6, S16, AP-5, Dam 2D6 & reroll to wound when targeting titanic units, also +1 to hit titanic units on the model as well. this thing is a superheavy killer – potentially up to 72 damage per turn…

  • Flag 5: Enemy in sight!

    So I see Space Marines are starting to use ammunition boxes as ablative armour now. Also the main armaments are lascannons. Are they carrying ammunition for somebody else?

  • Fuppylodders

    It looks lazily designed. Literally like they got a tank, and stuck some feet on it, stuck it on a hover base, threw some nozzles on the rear and job done. I mean hell, they didn’t even bother removing the look of the part where the tracks would have been located inside the ‘bodywork’… Whoever designed it needs to learn from someone better. Whoever approved it needs to be fired.

  • 415Native

    There’s no nice way to say it: That thing is FUGLY. I’m excited for 8th, and I’m ok with some of the Primaris stuff, but this is really bad.

  • Am I the only one who thinks it’s just a bigger landspeeder?

  • noobcake

    Well, I like it! it’s been years since I have bothered with GW products as I found other systems that were more reasonably priced. Buuut I do miss the grim dark on occasion, and it seems like all hell has broken loose recently.

    Might finally be time to start up that loyalist Imperial Fists army I’ve always considered

  • MechBattler

    Weapons – ALL OF THEM.

  • Evil Otto
  • Fuppylodders

    The model is such a lazy design. It looks like all they did was stick a couple of feet on the bottom of a landraider while putting it on a skimmer base, put a few nozzles on the rear, and stuck a turret on top. They didn’t even try to hide or redesign where the tracks go into the bodywork. If it wasn’t for the fact it was physically off the ground, you wouldn’t tell it isn’t just a normal ground tank. The front end is extremely boring for a hover tank. Whoever designed it needs to go learn from someone with more imagination. Whoever approved it as the final product needs to be fired.

  • mafiacheese

    Once I spotted the pintle-mounted rotor cannon, I was reminded of this awesome video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHHj8IavEjk

  • Tushan

    Based on the INSANE point costs in 8ed with things like a drop pod being nerfed to hell and still costing 103 f*****g points not to mention the utter insanity of various flame weapons priced out of ever being used I guess this tank will clock in at around 4000-5000 points.

    • Danny Carr

      I was thinking the pricing on them is strange.

      A silent sisters squad with 5 flamers will put out 5-30 strength 4 guaranteed to hit shots for 100 points. Sounded ok on paper.

      Then considering the to wound rolls and armour saves even on something like a imperial guardsman you’re probably not going to earn your points back. Then you have to consider the sisters the armour save of 3 toughness 3 isn’t that good in 8th where armour modifiers are a thing and they are in a unit of 5 using range 8 weaponry. They’re going to be very easy to kill before they get to shooting range.

      If you only take one flamer as a special your going to do 1-6 hits which is to random for strength 4 no ap modifier to bother using it even if it was free. I think GW are vastly overestimating how good the guaranteed to hit is considering all the other downsides of using flamers.

  • Senexis

    …and they said pigs wouldn’t fly

  • Frey Jepson

    I can just imagine GW laughing at it’s consumer base in anticipation of them buying badly designed kits like this one. To me this thing looks comical.

    • Evil Otto

      That’s the thing. TO YOU. Not to everyone.

      • Frey Jepson

        Indeed, Otto. That IS the thing.)

  • My guess is this is their version of the razorback, so hopefully we will see a main battle tank variant come out in a predator format of better turret gun and side sponsons.

    What confused me was a lot of the promo stuff had the new marines coming down in drop pods and the new index doesn’t allow them to.

    Oh and I disliked the model, but then saw the blood angels painted version and it seems like it was more the colour scheme that was making it look wrong to me. Look forward to seeing it in person.

    I hated the primaris dread in the video but after seeing shots from other angles, I am looking forward to converting it up. Less fat belly as it looks way too top heavy.

  • Jack Boland

    wow, that is one gigantic piece of trash.

  • frank

    I cant say i hate it looks inline with some of the other tanks but it feels un-fluffy to have them start rolling out with new anti-grav stuff. Could be an interesting new kit but if i was a space marine chapter id be thinking “you mean mars has been holding out on us this whole time?”. Either they been holding out or the imperial buracracy is much slower than id be comfortable with haha.

  • Ian Hopkins

    Interesting Aquila it has.

    Split because of the Warp Storm, and the Thunderbolts of Unity as well? Guilliman might be planning beyond a mere reinforcement crusade, folks.

    I mean, using the Thunderbolts and *not* starting a proper **Crusade** would be heretical, even for a Primarch. Those don’t get used lightly.