Alpha Legion: Best Legion in the Chaos Codex? FTN

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Alpha Legion can choose any chaos mark and get access to powerful pre-deployment strategems. Are they the best thing in the codex?

With the Alpha Legion being able to choose any chaos mark and getting access to powerful pre-deployment strategems are they the best thing in the codex?  Your opponent has to react and change his game immediately when you deploy 20 zerks in concealment.

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Hi All,

We spend a lot of time talking about the Alpha Legion in this show.  These guys are similar to the Raven Guard from the space marines book in allowing you to spend Command Points to give Infantry units a form of old school infiltrate before the game begins.

When you combine this with units that are already powerful like Berserkers this can really force your opponent to radically change their deployment strategy to compensate,  No one will feel confident with 20 or more Zerks starting the game potentially within charge range.

The innate Alpha Legion ability also grants them a neg 1 to hit from over 12 inches away.  This means that the AL sacrifice almost nothing…  They get defense in the from of being harder to hit and offense in the form of being able to push powerful units in your opponents face.  Wow…  Of course the title of the Alpha Legion being the best legion in the codex is subjective but we think its pretty easy to make that argument.

We also discuss how you will likely see a lot less ‘Imperial Soup’ armies happening as see more codex releases.  The Strategems and army abilities, including objective, secured are just too good!

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  • YetAnotherFacelessMan

    Some might argue that Alpha Legion were always the best. Some others might argue that anyone else who was ever any good was secretly Alphirius wearing that legion’s colors and blending in.

    They’re both right.

    • jmaximum

      No, it’s only because the Alpha Legion arranged such that they thought that.
      Also, thanks to Praetorian of Dorn, we learn that Alpharius can transfer his consciousness into one of his legionaries, and of course being Alpha Legion, they can be anybody else………he might even be the house plant next to you……

      • YetAnotherFacelessMan

        If so, I’m the type of man who can fart on a primarch and live.

  • Damon Sherman

    So, I guess I’m running Alpha Legion after I get my Deathguard to a playable level. Which is nice because I still have a prototype Alpha Legion captain I converted years ago.

    wait… Alpha legion can take cult units?

    • Dooms Day

      urmm. yer

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    I think all of the legion tactics are good except for the Word Bearers and Iron Warriors. The former because it is uninteresting, the latter because it is an on/off switch that provides nothing tactical depth or game play for either side.

  • Dalinair

    Without a doubt, at first i misread world eaters and thought it turned every unit into a khorne berzerker with 2 attack phases, as such I was like holy hell WE’s are the best. When I realised it was just a poor +1A I quickly went to my second pick, alpha legion who are pretty amazing.

    Time to break out the dark blue paint!

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Berzerkers, your troop choice, get to attack twice per fight phase and gets +1 attack both times the turn they charge.

  • Drpx

    Raven Guard places third but Alpha Legion gets first cuz muh berserkers and muh Salamanders.

  • Philip Estabrook

    I’m quite pleased with my World Eaters. Bezerkers are insane.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

  • luke-vdv

    So, what stratagems to loyalist Alpha Legion armies get?

  • Dennis J. Pechavar

    As my favorite Legion I am always happy to hear this. Hydra Dominatus!

  • Malisteen

    Alpha Legion is absolutely the strongest legion in the CSM codex. By a wide margin. Their trait is the best, their stratagem is both amazingly good and game changing in that it lets you run them completely differently from other CSM armies. Their artefact is also good and their warlord trait, while not as good, is a ton of fun and super fluffy.

    Apart from Alpha Legion, the only CSM legions that get anything of note are World Eaters & Emperor’s Children, with their mark restrictions and troop cult marines which together change the sorts of armies they can run. Their traits and artifacts and whatnot are largely insignificant, but both berzerkers and noise marines are sufficiently different from and better than generic CSMs that the legion choices there will make for armies that look and act noticeably different from the rest.

    None of the other legion-specific abilities, whether traits, stratagems, items, or otherwise matter. Some are a tiny bit better, some a tiny bit worse, but none fundamentally change what sorts of armies you might run nor do they significantly impact how the various units available operate within them. Sure, Word Bearers is the ‘worst’, but there’s hardly any meaningful difference between them and Iron Warriors or Night Lords or Renegades to be worth getting worked up over. Red Corsairs and Black Legion are mostly in the same boat, though their special characters are at least somewhat noteworthy. But only if you actually run the special characters. A Red Corsairs or Black Legion army that isn’t running their named character might as well be a Word Bearers army for all the difference it makes.

  • Marco Marantz

    Im not repainting my Black Legion and Iron Warriors ive had for a while. Im just going to pretend they are Alpha Legion in disguise cuz I agree, Alpha Legion clearly have the best tactic and stratagem. Very poor balance between the Legions in the Chaos codex. GW strikes again. You’ll excuse me if i dont believe it was playtested.