40K: Wait The Eldar Have What Now

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The Eldar are coming! The Eldar are coming! To arms! To arms!

There are three lanterns hanging in the Old North Church which means they’re coming by Land, Sea, and also the Webway. Also no one should be surprised by that fact, they’re the Eldar. That’s kind of their thing. That and guilt about that one time they doomed themselves as a civilization because they got just a little too into Fifty Shades of Grey. Which, I mean, if you’re going to doom your whole race over a book, there are better and sexier ones out there that have a much better understanding of people. And good writing.

But all that’s besides the point. What should be surprising is that the Eldar have the following units. You may have forgotten that they exist, because nobody takes them anymore. Let’s flip through the ol’ index and remind ourselves that apparently the Eldar can take more than just jet bikes and Wraithknights. Just yesterday we talked about the Wraithlord being back in business, so maybe some of the other units that nobody takes any more are going to come out of the woodwork when the codex hits.

Swooping Hawks

Man. I feel for these guys. Really I do. They look so cool with their crazy armor and wings–they’re fast, with a 14″ move speed and the ability to redeploy in the middle of a battle (over the course of two turns), which means you might, in theory use them to try and take an uncontested objective. But they’re also expensive, fragile, and their basic weapon option is underwhelming at best. It’s a strength 3, rapid fire 2 weapon that you’ll have 5-10 of. Underwhelming for their point cost. Now the Exarch can take some decent weaponry, and if you could take a whole unit of Swooping Hawk Exarchs this’d be a different story.

Maybe the codex will give them the tweaks they need so that they can come out of retirement for a sweet comeback tour.

Storm Guardians

Storm Guardians have a hard time. They are a close combat unit that has to exist alongside Striking Scorpions and Howling Banshees, and you’ve really gotta work hard to stand out in a field that’s dominated by industry titans like those. And possessing neither abilities that enhance their close range firepower or melee abilities, they just have a hard time standing out. Sure, they’re a cheap troop choice, but they’re a troop choice alongside Guardian Defenders or Dire Avengers. If they had a little more movement or a little more stabbing power maybe they’d get the boost they need to be back on the tabletop. Or maybe if they stayed relatively cheap and their other troop choice competition got a little more expensive you’d see them. They’re not bad–just, not as good as other units that do functionally the same thing.

Wraithlord

As mentioned above, maybe Wraith Lords are poised for a comeback. We’re kind of excited to see how the new Wraithlord plays out. It’s the only model on this list that we know is getting a bump in power, so it sounds like the Codex is going to be readjusting the army as it functions. Once all the codexes are out, we’ll have a better picture of where all the armies are, but as we said, it’s time to dust off the old robo-ghosts.

Night Spinner

If you have seen one of these rare, majestic (I assume, I’ve never actually seen one in the wild) creatures, count yourself lucky. Because not only have you witnessed a rare Falcon variant, you’ve probably also experienced the thrill of getting shot at with strength 7 shots from outside of line of sight–which is not great, but it does mean that you were up against an Eldar model that was relatively sedentary, and that’s always satisfying.

Vypers

We’ve talked about how Fast Attack choices in 8th Edition are a little lackluster (for the most part) right now. And Vypers are one of the things we felt exemplified the problem. Mobility is great, but in 8th edition, mobility doesn’t offer the same protection it once did.

Bonus: Fire Prism

This one’s just too hot to keep on the table, apparently. It’s a pretty solid choice though–interesting mechanics, but you just don’t see them most days. Like the Nightspinner, there’s only fuzzy, out of focus video footage of them in the wild.

At any rate, know these models–you might see them alongside some Wraithknights one day, but don’t panic when you do. Odds are good they’ll still be terrible.

  • Paul Davies

    I take two fire prisms every time my eldar hit the table.

    • Bootneck

      Being able to punch at Str12 is nice for a basic tank

      • Charon

        Why?In most cases this in no better than S10 anyways. A lot of vehicles clock in at T7 or T8. So you wound at the same numbers as S9.
        The only rare exception is ultra light vehicles or very heavy infantry at T6 (which is pretty rare).
        Having a super high S is not what it used to be.

        • Xodis

          Because it also comes with -5AP and D6 Damage. Makes for a nice shot on High T, High W, Low Saves target.

          • Charon

            So… nearly the same as a lance but for more points and less shots?

          • Xodis

            Except it also has multiple fire modes

        • Bootneck

          Because its a basic tank not a SH, you wont find a standard unit with a ranged strength like that in the game.

          2’s to W T5/T6 is pretty useful imo, pushing the envelop a little higher than Str10

          • Charon

            Because it doesn’t need it. There is no reason to actually get it over a Falcon or even a dual lance serpent.

          • Bootneck

            I don’t really care either way but i just think its too early to make that assumption until the Codex is released knowing GW.

          • euansmith

            This is the internet, there is no “wait and see”, only “fire and forget”!

          • LankTank

            There is, the nodel is cooler

  • I am drooling already. GIMME DAT SWEET SWEET CODEX ACTION please. Pretty please. Wants.

    • Ebsolom

      Here, have a paper towel. That drool is getting everywhere.

      • Severius_Tolluck

        so long as it sticks to just being drool I can live with it, other bodily fluids is just a no go.

  • Heinz Fiction

    Swooping Hawks in my opinion are among the better aspect warriors. As long as you fight light infantry at least.

    • Dulahan

      True, a couple full squads of them would probably wreck the face of a conscript army. Drop in… 40+ Lasblaster shots with an Archon or Baharroth’s support to reroll 1s…

      But it requires a Light infantry opponent to begin with to be worth taking them, and right now they’re way too monofocused.

      • Heinz Fiction

        Against conscript they’ll have a hard time cashing in their points but against more expensive models (like other Eldar or some tyranids) they are good.

  • Rayna M. McCowan

    Night spinners are actually pretty good, just nobody built them (or magnetized the fire prism). Kind of hoping War Walkers move to Fast Attack (where they should have been for ages). It will help other heavy support options have some chance of showing up on the table.

    • Xodis

      Not really a problem anymore though. Just takes lots and lots of Heavy options.

  • Ravingbantha

    “Wait The Eldar Have What Now” still waiting to find out what the Eldar have now that they didn’t before.

    • euansmith

      An extra “A” and an “i”?

  • Walrus

    You could write down more then 1/2 of the Eldar list on this page, that is how disappointing most of their choices are compared to other units in the roster.

    Note – Prism tanks are pointless as weapon strength no longer really matters that much anymore. To see how bad the price discrepancy is, look at the space marine Predator tank with 4 lascannon… That is 4 str 9 -3ap shots for nearly the same points cost. Compared to the prisms 1, str 12 ap-5 shot. Someone mathshammered it and prism is close to be the worst choice for anti tank per points effectiveness of any eldar anti tank weapon. Better to take a wave serpent with dual bright lance. At least you have a) a shield, b) transport ability for around the same price. Not only that 2 brightlance > 1 prism shot

    • Bootneck

      I’m sure GW will through some stratagems to use in conjunction with Fire prisms, they know that other tanks are better and will wanted to tip the scales to sell models.

      • Walrus

        Yeh i hope so man. i would love to see them and falcons back on the table.

      • LankTank

        3 prism tanks, roll to hit, 2D6 mortal wounds?

  • MechBattler

    Also, water is wet.

  • Marcus Clark

    You forgot Reapers, when does anyone ever use reapers anymore?
    Prysim needs some simple math buffing, leave the ST and ap -4.
    Buff the high damage output to d6 + 2, give it the weapons platform rule (move and fire without penalty).
    Swooping Hawks I think leave their loadout, but change the weapon ability instead of 6’s – ap-2, change to 5’s – ap -3.

  • Justin Pettett

    I dont know what this guy is talking about but Night Spinners are AMAZING! Back them up with an Autarch and take at least 3-4 of them and your opponent will cry.

  • Byor

    Wraithlord is a solid and cheap monster, but it seems people did not noticed yet.