Geekery: Disney Might Buy 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Another buy out may be coming – and it could bring more Marvel characters back into the fold.

According to Business Insider the entertainment giant is looking to acquire a number of Fox’s assets – including several cable television channels (including FX and National Geographic), the studio division (Searchlight, Blue Sky, and the animation division included), and part of Sky telecom. This purchase would focus Fox’s portfolio on sports and news.

The talks have stalled for right now – but that doesn’t mean that the potential deal is 100% off.

In recent years Marvel Studios has been able to obtain the rights to some of it’s characters back – namely Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and shared ownership of Spider-Man. This deal with Fox would mean that the X-Men and Fantastic Four would likely make their way to Marvel Studios, which would be a huge game changer for the comic book movies. It would also return the rights to the original Star Wars trilogy to LucasArts.

What I’m hoping to see out of this deal if it happens:

  • A Brad Bird directed Fantastic Four movie
  • X-Men movies that don’t suck
  • A remastered, original cut of the original trilogy on blu-ray
  • A Spiderman and Deadpool movie just because

 

What’s your wishlist?

  • Rainthezangoose

    “X-Men movies that don’t suck” Logan was the best super hero film to come out in a long time and would have NEVER happened under Disney.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Logan was good but it was made better by the character development we saw in all the other films, even the piss poor ones.

      • marxlives

        It was just a really solid Western. Really didn’t need the other movies to enjoy it.

    • Muninwing

      i’ll give you Logan.

      but i tried watching Apocalypse last week… that alone undoes what goodwill that Logan achieved.

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    it is a good move by Disney. It is time for those rights to come home to the proper company.

    Still… I feel kind of sad.

    If Disney had the X-Men and Spider-man, there is no way they would have produced the Avengers films. At least not initially. They would have been saved for later in production. There’s definitely no way we would have gotten something like Guardians of the Galaxy.

    • marxlives

      Tis true.

  • EnTyme

    5 of the 6 X-men movies ranged from pretty good to great. Wolverine is one for three, though.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      6…? You mean 10, right?

      X1
      X2
      X3

      Origins
      Wolverine
      Logan

      First Class
      Days of Future Past
      Apocalypse

      Deadpool

      • EnTyme

        I put the Wolverine trilogy into its own category. There are 6 X-men movies, 3 Wolverine movies, and then Deadpool. They’re in the same universe, but I don’t call them all X-men movies. Same reason I don’t call Iron Man and Avengers movie. Their subject and tone are different.

        • Muninwing

          even still…
          X1 = good
          X2 = mediocre
          X3 = a hot steaming mess
          First class = half good, half boring, underutilized half the cast, and had some… other issues…
          Days = mostly decent, interesting idea… kinda…
          Apocalypse = a messy bore-fest

          so… maybe a 2/6 good ratio if you combine the half-performing parts?

          add in Deadpool and it ups the ratio a bit.

          in comparison, you get maybe 1.2 out of 3 for Wolverine. pretty close.

          • EnTyme

            I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. The first question I ask myself after watching a movie is “Did this entertain me?” In all but two cases (Wolverine and Origins: Wolverine) the answer was “yes”. I guess that counts more for me than it does for some people.

    • marxlives

      Liked the first 2 first class movies.

      • EnTyme

        I actually liked Apocalypse. It was the weakest of the three prequel movies for sure, but that doesn’t have to mean it was bad.

        • Muninwing

          oh, i just tried watching it last week and i don;t understand how anyone sat through it.

          it would have been a great achievement twenty years ago. today, it was flashy in all the wrong places, was a mess of tone and storytelling, and underutilized half of the cast. i’d give it a 3/10.

  • benn grimm

    I wish these old franchises would die a death already and I hope Disney falls foul of the competition regulators. They have no interest in telling interesting stories, they just want to own everything and remake it in their own disgusting, fake, soulless image.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Why…?

      Do you not like Star Wars and Marvel?

      • benn grimm

        Because they are old and tired and say nothing worth saying any more.

        No, not really, not any more. They are so far removed from the original vision of their creators they might as well be renamed Mickey’s Space Odyssey and Super Mickey and Super Friends. I am heartily sick of them and this perpetual rehashing of old ideas is getting in the way of originality. Let the dinosaurs die and make room for something fresh and vital.

        • Ravingbantha

          Someone sure has his grumpy pants on

        • Muninwing

          half the time, i 100% agree with you.

          then i think of Rogue One…

          it took an old piece of a story, fleshed it out, answered a decades-old complaint, gave voice and character to the whole of the rebellion in a new way, and completely reframed and magnified the beginning of ANH.

          it had new things to say about hopelessness, independence, and the need of the individual for causes to fight for. it explored humanity and limits, and the extent of what we are willing to fight for.

          at least that’s what i got out of it. i thought it was better than the three prequels and #7 combined… but it was also super bleak, and was a definite departure from the tone of the rest of the franchise.

          • benn grimm

            You do make it sound good… And I wouldn’t argue with any of that necessarily, if it speaks to you that’s cool. I would say that to me, it felt quite thin, like chewing gum stretched out too far, like a story that didn’t really need to be told. Not bad per say, just lacking something. Magic maybe.

            I just can’t summon the interest like I used to and coupled with the shady, bully boy tactics of the studio ( just look at how Disney is treating cinemas and media in the run up to number 8) I’m finding it pretty much impossible to get behind, despite really wanting to see Mark Hamill back on screen. Which is probably why I get so mad about it, because I’m quite conflicted about it.

    • EnTyme

      Shouldn’t you of all people be happy to see Marvel’s IP taken out of Fox’s hands?

      • benn grimm

        I assume this is an allusion to my handle? Marvels intellectual property is a joke, Stan Lee stole credit and ownership from the creatives who kept him from bankruptcy for decades, then sold what he didn’t create to a company of parasites parading as wholesome children’s entertainers. So no, not really, compared to Disney, Fox is an exemplar of virtue.

        • EnTyme

          o.0 I see this is a touchy subject for you.

          • marxlives

            Ya, a lot more than I expected out of a comic book. Though Grimm is right, DC and Marvel have done a pretty good job of not acknowledging creators over the years for their successful IPs.

          • EnTyme

            That’s been a serious issue in the comics industry since its inception. The companies own the rights to the IP, and they use that to completely hose the actual talent.

          • benn grimm

            Absolutely. The sad thing is, it looked like things were changing in the 90s, creators were taking back control/ownership, then that old fraud sold out to the Hollywood shmucks and here we are nearly twenty years later, history rewritten by the victors and back to the bad old days of the all powerful studios.

          • benn grimm

            Yeah, I guess so, lol, though I prefer the term ‘passionate’. Sorry if I came across as biting your head off, nothing against you, I just hate banal, hypocritical, exploitative parasites.

          • EnTyme

            No worries, benn. I get the same way when people talk about the working conditions of game designers and voice actors. The current corporate climate is toxic to creatives.

          • Muninwing

            to be fair, any imbalanced system has its exploitations. we are seeing the post-80s exploitative elements of consumerism and capitalism gone wild, which by nature crushes talent.

            it’s not that any one system would be better, it’s that a system that is allowed to become extremized brings with it a whole mess of other problems.

            art that is innovative and amazing, but does not sell, gets neglected.

            the company that originally released the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and The Crow — Kitchen Sink Press — was really great for releasing items that would sell alongside items that were of artistic merit that should be published for its innovation. they ran a “words and pictures museum” that showed a ton of comic book history. they were awesome.

            they went bankrupt. more than once. and the last time, the primary investor allowed their debt advisor (a disbarred debt lawyer) to peel off their main dependable source of revenue into its own business and allow the printing arm to sink or swim on its own. meaning that they sank.

            i found all this out working for the business that survived, which in turn went out of business twice due to mismanagement (the second one finally stuck).

            art, significance, talent… all that matters to investors is the bottom line.

          • marxlives

            Ya no problem Benn, your words hit me like a sledgehammer so it took me some time to recover. But at its heart there is a lot of truth there. I don’t think people mind companies owning an IP but in the age of social media let creatives be attached to those IPs, at least for their talent. We see this with Sandman and Gaunt’s Ghost. They may not own the IP but those creatives were able to launch careers and raise the industry bar as a whole.

          • benn grimm

            There’s a great interview with Dave Baker on Inverse, where he talks about how basically if you want a career in comics you serve your time at either of the big two, network, then hopefully, if you’re good/fortunate enough you get a chance to go off and do your own thing, which is obviously miles better than it used to be in the 70s/80s and before.

            I think the thing that really irks me and it’s a similar thing that irritates me about all big studios, not just in comics, is that they use their weight to intimidate, exploit and control not only the creatives they rely on for regular income, particularly the young and naive, but also distributors, outlets etc etc. Basically anyone they can rip off, they will if they can, all in the cause of a few more bucks. I think a lot of shady business practices have become the norm, basically because they aren’t illegal per say, they can be gotten away with and they make the fat cats feel more comfortable. I think the only way to begin to combat these practices is to be aware of what they are and to call them out, even if it is a little uncomfortable to do so.

            I hope one day the law changes to properly enshrine creative rights and ownership, until then, young people in particular need to be aware of what they are signing up for. As you can imagine I do go out of my way to share these issues with any i come across in a professional capacity as much as is possible.

  • AwesomePizza

    Whatever happened to them there antitrust laws we use to have?

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Anti-Trust? Its just one studio buying another. And not even the whole Studio, just the movie part. Disney cannot take Fox’s TV channel.

      • Dan

        Disney already owns a pretty ridiculous amount of the film, animation, and television industries. Much more you’re bordering onto monopoly territory. This *should* be slightly concerning from an Anti-Trust point of view.

        • marxlives

          With monopolies you have to own the entire process and distribution (Such as if Disney owned Comcast) a violate anti-competition laws, like price fixing. This is why even if GW was the only company on the market they would not be considered a monopoly. They would have to own the enter process AND violate anti-competition laws.

          • Muninwing

            the lawsuit that claimed that they in fact did… which only Baer seemed to take seriously (no surprises there)… was thrown out of court.

            and the person suing was pretty unhitched, if i remember right.

      • euansmith

        Phew, I was worried that Disney would seek to tone down that hilarious Fox News show; 24hr rolling ad-libbed experimental cutting edge comedy.

    • EnTyme

      I agree, but luckily, most sources are saying this deal already fell through. Murdoch wants too much money.

  • Gustav

    If this means the Fox fanfare will play before Star Wars movies, I’m in.

    • EnTyme

      I have kind of missed that in the last two movies.

  • Wampasaurus

    There is an interesting article about how Disney may be more interested in Futurama than with the X-Men franchise
    https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/6/16614502/disney-fox-marvel-netflix-hulu-streaming

  • BrianDavion

    Well.. that’s a creative solution to the X-men problem

  • SonoftheMountain

    I’m waiting for the announcement that by 2020 Disney will buy entertainment. All the entertainment

  • Late to the party as usual, BoLS:

    https://www.cbr.com/disney-fox-deal-reportedly-dead/

  • euansmith

    “A remastered, original cut of the original trilogy on blu-ray”

    Han shot first. #rodianlivesmatter

  • Gunther Clone C

    If Disney buys them and Firefly STILL doesn’t come back, I will have the most sads ever.