40K Rumors: Q1-2 Codex Schedule

Here’s the latest list of codex releases hot off the 40K rumorsphere:

We already know Adeptus Custodes and Thousand Sons are up next and rumors have been whirling of Tau soon.

Here’s the latest from Advanced Tau Tactica’s Haechi on the next codex releases:

“From my inside infos, the TS codex was delayed until unknown times and therefore there was a big gap in the previsions for February. I guess now for some reason it’s back on schedule ! So now we have Custodes-Thousand Sons-T’au-Necrons-Dark Eldars-Harlquins.

Custodes last week of January, and probably for 3 more weeks because of multiple releases, then Thousand Sons, mid/end of Feb, and finally T’au around mid March. Keep in mind I don’t have the exact dates, my source just says it like “early, late, mid, of a month”

Putting It All Together

Haechi has been drip drip dripping rumors on the upcoming codexes since November. Putting everything together leaves us with this rumor rough draft for Q1-Q2:

Q1:

Chaos Daemons – Early January (OUT)

Adeptus Custodes – Late January

Thousand Sons – February

T’au Empire – March

Q2:

Necrons

Dark Eldar

Harlequins

~What are you most looking forward too? Have at it!

 

  • SilentPony

    Where are my space puppies?! My Thunder wolves are in the corner whimpering, wanting to be the end all game winner again…

  • piglette
    • SilentPony

      But…but…Trashcan Pete gave a no-backsies, super no erasies promise that plastic battle sisters were a thing 3 years ago! And he was in a trashcan while he did it! That’s a sacred, blood oath!

      • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

        This is referring to Brettonians not SoB. Their book went unchanged for a decade and then GW killed the whole game without bothering to give Brets or Beastmen an update first..

        • Valourousheart

          Well we can probably blame Chapter House for that one as well, give how hard it would be to get IP protection for anything related to Arthurian Legend.

          • ZeeLobby

            I’d rather blame GW for being so sensitive. I still saw tons of official Brettonian armies (never saw one Brett alternative actually), and it’s not like companies still aren’t producing alternatives. GW’s whole IP panic is still a pretty big joke.

          • euansmith

            They were strange, dark times; the Age of Kirby.

          • Muninwing

            i honestly think that Kirby and Ward were buds… that Ward’s ideas and influence were given moore weight and power because of that friendship…

            and that there was a reason why once it became obvious that Kirby had steered the company into the weeds, Ward was let go.

            between the two of them, they sure left their mark on GW’s properties, right?

          • euansmith

            Skid marks 😉

          • bobrunnicles

            He Who Should Not Be Named

          • ZeeLobby

            Indeed.

          • Valourousheart

            Are you sure it was tons, and not just the same couple of players over and over. Also the most memorable Brettonian army I ever saw was completely custom… they used Marine Bikes as the steeds and tons of green stuff. But sure Chapter House did nothing wrong, and the judgments against them was a travesty of justice. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Chapter House holds any blame in this?

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean our club had 5 Brettonian players and there were several I didn’t know at every WHFB event. I’d say it was significant. More players than lizardmen, VC, etc. In my area.

            And Chapter House can be blamed for copying designs to make a profit. But nothing GW did changed that. None of their name changes, IP changes, axing of armies, etc.has kept other companies from doing today what chapter house did back then. All it did was prevent people with those armies from playing them in AoS, forced us to use stupid names, etc. I can still make entire fantasy “Orrukadook” or “Aeeldarian” armies using alternative models, while my friend will basically never play his 4K points of Brettonians again, all because GW’s lawyer division came up with a bunch of stupid advice… Which to Kirby (a totally disconnected railroad tycoon CEO) made total sense.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            No. Just blame GW. The range originated with an abortive attempt to produce a medieval sub game. So they knew what they were getting into making generic medieval minis. At least they could have updated the army book, which would hardly have been copied by Chapterhouse!

            How can you blame the lack of updates for Beastmen on Chapter House? Beastmen stolen from the Glorantha setting of Runequest where they are called Broo…

          • Muninwing

            beastmen got multiple updates. they got a new army book in 8th. and new models.

            it wasn’t very good, but they got one.

          • bobrunnicles

            No they didn’t, they got the last army book of 7th in paperback. They also lost a lot of stuff – no more marks, Dragon Ogres were moved to Warriors of Chaos (because they needed the additional options, right?). Sure eventually they got some great models for their Rare slots but that didn’t change the fact that they were vastly overcosted and you never saw them on the field.

            I play Beastmen and I have one of each model of the Rares assembled and painted and they look great sitting in the cabinet because they suck so badly relative to their point cost 🙁

          • Muninwing

            the removal of the marks hurt me hard… i had 4000+ points of Nurgle-themed beasts that suddenly lost their flair. and DOs were my fun toy (ogre torsos, samurai themed… a great conversion that i only had gotten to field once).

            the late-7th book that i was remembering as an 8th edition one was a problem for a lot of reasons, though — despite this, they were still playable through 8th edition if you didn’t mind probably losing if your opponent was skilled.

            it’s the one WHF army i won’t sell, because i loved playing them so much. of course, if you know anyone who wants a ton of oldschool ogres, send them my way…

          • bobrunnicles

            Yep, no more Pestigors or Khornegors sucked. I’ve scored plenty of victories with my beasts in 8th but they tend to be almost monobuild – horde of Gors, horde of Bestigors, herdstone and plenty of chaff. Some people had success with a Minotaur bus but I never had the balls to try that one. Either way if your dice let you down for Primal Fury you were totally screwed. Regardless I also love my Beastmen army and they aren’t going anywhere anytime soon 🙂

            How nerfed were they? On the competitive circuit, when played at a 2000pt limit Beastmen received 2500pts to make a list….

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Loved them myself. However I hated how gimped my ambush was made. And the loss of the skirmish feel of the army and its only protection against the mass fire game 8th became was rough. That and I didn’t want to rebase my ungor at third time, back down to the original size they started as! Hated the rank and file close combat only army with no armor and very little ways to mitigate it. 7th and 8th got rid of my main tactics by way of encircling with lapping or breaking morale with surprise charges. All they wanted me to do was take large blocks of minotaurs and giants in that book. I didn’t want to run the way the book pretty much forced you to. I didn’t want a jaberslythe, or a Cyclops. The art style was also not rubbing with me, as I thought the razor gor looked too cartoony (although eh now fits fine with aos and everything else) and the minotaurs looked like sheep!
            Trust me I disliked that book a bunch! I am not even talking about my marks or mixing the other books yet! I only like that they kinda got Tzaangors now, but the magic is lost for the poor guys.

          • Muninwing

            i converted razorgors from the bottoms of some dragon ogres and some boar heads. they worked well enough. but yeah, the newer cartoony art sculpts was really subpar.

            i hated that the army that was supposed to be all about ambush had a worse ambush rule than everyone else who came in out of infiltrate. and that they just dropped the ball with half of the rest.

            i’ll keep mine, shelf them somewhere for the fun of it, but i doubt they will get any play again. it’s sad.

          • Severius_Tolluck

            I themed mine to be raiders of kislev and were mountain goats. I had a pale flesh and fur scheme. My centigors (which always were a crappy unit, and just got made crappier) were all converted from goblin wolf rider wolves with gor torsos, and the command had gor torsos. They were called by my peers the fuzzy drunken midgets!

          • Muninwing

            i did the same thing, nearly! my Centigors were all Gors on GobWolves… with the Herd standard arm as the basis for a spear.

            my musicians had casks on their backs. and i carved drinking horns for them.

            i loved that unit as a harasser and speedy distraction. always fielded 1-2 units of 5 back in the chaos days. they always helped me set up my turn 3 wipeouts.

          • stinkoman

            they should have just bought chapter house. CH was obviously providing something GW wasnt in most cases. they could have been like FW but for alternates and niche upgrades.

          • SacTownBrian

            No one complains about aftermarket upgrade parts for cars…

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            That would have probably been far cheaper too!

          • SacTownBrian

            Weren’t Beastmen in the 1981 second release of WFB? Runequest didn’t introduce Broo until 1982.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            GW were already making models for Runequest Broo when WHFB came out in 83. They repurposed the models for that and they became ‘beastmen’.

          • zeno666
          • Muninwing

            Chapterhouse earns no blame here. they just did what many other companies are doing.

            GW going all scrooged overboard is what earns the blame. there’s protecting your IP and inordinately litigious, and GW ended up clearly in the latter.

        • Muninwing

          Bretts were perhaps a bit too Arthurian…

          but you’re wrong about Beasts… they got an 8th ed update that changed them from chaos to simply unnatural.

          and perhaps that itself is the problem with your argument against Bretts. if Beasts could be reimagined, why not Bretts? There were some feudal holdouts when the Renaissance was in full swing, so why not focus on how a dying feudal nation related to its neighbors? what about the fact that the magic is different there (“the lady and all”) and walking across the near-divinely protected border fundamentally changes the laws of nature and magic?

          of course, to be ported into AoS, there would have to be actual definition of real countries and political structures (that other settings have as a base on release day, still lacking a year plus in…), so perhaps it’s just not within the imagination of the current design team?

          heck, having the Bretts be homeless knights who committed themselves to a cause, and all the people they travel with, would be a great warband idea they could have proposed… essentially make every knight a questing knight of varying rank within an loose, autonomous, mobile culture-structure, and the peasant troops could be the people they rescue who in turn commit themselves to helping the ideals of the organization.

          sort of like a Lady cult combined with a nomad nation. and they’d be playable well into the new setting.

          but nope, excuses and a lack of effort won the day.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            apologies didn’t realise Beastmen got an update, I’d sold mine by then!

            But anyhow Brets were different enough IMO. I can’t imagine porting them into AoS, but that doesn’t explain why no army book for WHFB.

          • bobrunnicles

            Don’t worry, they didn’t get an 8th update. They were the last army book from 7th and they got nerfed all to heck (speaking as someone with 6k of Beastmen).

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            I feel your pain!

          • Severius_Tolluck

            Ditto, I was in agony. It was the only book to ever make me rage the way I did.

          • Drpx

            The didn’t fit the marketing department’s idea of fantasy.

          • bobrunnicles

            Beasts did not get an update for 8th. They were one of the last holdouts from 7th with Brets and Skaven.

          • Muninwing

            right — i had forgotten. they were virtually unplayable in 7th without maxxing (and depending upon) rares… then became the opposite less than six months later.

            still, in that same general timeframe.

          • Nightshade878

            Another thing you couldve done with the Brettonians in Age of Sigmar is, following on from the Lady being and Elven Sorceress, have them as feudal humans who worship and fight for Allariel (The Lady of the Fey/Forest/Life for some interesting name changes) alongside the Sylvaneth. It would make the human factions more diverse, since they all worship Sigmar, and would allow for interesting writing in how these two groups of humans interact and see each other.

          • Muninwing

            … but that would have ruined the disturbingly preachy heavy-handed jesus-sigmar theme they’ve got going on here, and maybe give it more substance in the process.

        • GWELLS

          Well atleast Beastman survived into the new world.

          • Muninwing

            they suffered more at the hands of 8th edition than maybe any army. but they did make the cut.

          • bobrunnicles

            They’re actually pretty nasty in AoS. Plus the former rare choices are good again too.

          • Muninwing

            it’d mean actually playing AoS… which i might give a try after their next edition. i’m hoping they finally have a sensical setting in the next iteration.

          • Knight_of_Infinite_Resignation

            true.

        • Severius_Tolluck

          To be technical for a moment, Beastmen did get a codex a month or two prior to 8th and was written with much of it mind.

      • Muninwing

        i’m amazed at how many people still think that wasn’t a joke.

        “plastic sisters are in the trash” where they belong?

        it was a poking of fun that the internet decided was a promise. what’s more, they did actually get some plastic sisters soon after (Celestine, Geminae) so it’s not even a lie. but listen to the butthurt on the internet and GW broke a sacred oath by not releasing them…

        i honestly think that GW is foolish for releasing new properties while allowing old ones to languish. give Sisters good rules and new models and they’ll sell like hotcakes.

      • Carey_Mahoney

        He was certainly referring to Celestine and her two guards with that.

    • PrimoFederalist

      savage + the feelz

    • Vayle

      disliked because of too many feels…

    • NagaBaboon

      TO SOON MAN!

    • AkulaK

      It is “ma chérie” if you speak to a female, otherwise really funny pic… Poor poor sisters, they’ll have to wiat until every other codex is released, even GSC 😀

      • memitchell

        Hey! In 30 years, SoB’s got two codexes before GSC got their only one.

  • Richard Gadd

    When are the Orks getting a book?

    • I think they are getting a Redux like the Orcs did in AoS. That’s why they’re not even being hinted at and will most likely be the last book in the so-called Phase 1 (or the first book in the Phase 2) releases. That’s my theory- a new massive ‘beast’ (formerly known as Ghaskull) that’ll cost $140 and a new focus on multi-wound super-nobs as troops with a bunch of other new stuff…

      • Talos2

        I’m hoping any big kit would be a squiggoth, hopefully a gargantuan one

        • LankTank

          No. Warbuggy/trak kit

    • Gooberbaby

      When they get one…

    • Rass

      Orks will be devoured by the Tyranids like the Squats so that GW can make space for another space marine army.

  • Munn

    The rumor goes on to say wolve->Orkz for anyone curios and only runs through june.

    • M V

      Yeay! My greenkinz are waiting. So are my space puppies. I’d prefer greenskinz sooner, with a hefty tome.

  • Dennis J. Pechavar

    Dark Eldar and Harlequins for the win!

    • euansmith

      Darklequins! Like Harlies, but a lot easier to paint?

      • Muninwing

        i’m secretly hoping that they fold Harlequins and Ynnari and Corsairs into one book, maybe even giving some crumbs to Exodites in the process…

        then again, i’d really like to see there be a shaking up of the Eldar… a reuniting of Dark and Craftworld, a resettlement on a planet trying to create an Eldar homeworld, tension and outright conflict between the Ynnari and the establishment…

        there’s so much material and so much potential, and it’s just not going to be explored by keeping to three distinct semi-overlapping books with 4-6 factions (and a few subfactions) straddled between those books.

        • euansmith

          I can’t understand why GW doesn’t roll the Sylvaneth range in to 40k. Exodites or the Daemons of some other, non-purvey Eldar God.

          • Muninwing

            it’s actually pretty sad that Slaanesh gets pigeonholed into “purvy”

            all indulgence is Slaanesh. despite the grossly obese looking nurgle stuff, the deadly sins of gluttony and greed are just as much Slaanesh as lust and pride are.

            sloth might fit into Nurgle, wrath into Khorne, and some aspects of pride into Tzeentch-related themes (the Cosmic Horror, “we delved too far” into forbidden knowledge, the “i can handle it” when it’s beyond mortal ken…), but that leaves gluttony, avarice, lust, and envy. all are based on a warped version of love, which is all Slaanesh.

          • Muninwing

            i’m actually hoping that with the “advancing the plot” rhetoric they are willing to put their money where their mouth is.

            the Eldar are fractured, and not really in a functional way anymore.

            with Harlies, Corsairs, Ynnari, Drukhari, and Eldari, there’s a huge divide… and it’s not the light and dark they copied form WHF. it’s tradition vs radical, stable vs dynamic.

            i’d love to see an Eldar plot advancement that consisted of a treaty between the Craftworlds and Comorragh, the founding of a new Eldar homeworld, half of the Craftworlds and a ton of Dark repopulating it… and sending their craftworlds to be evac ships to go claim (or abduct) the Exodites. they could be the new Ynnari faction, led by the existing factions that are going in that direction… and maybe rope in some of the Corsairs to come in out of the cold.

            the other faction could be the traditionalists — either the Drukhari who are too far gone to care, or the Craftworlders who reject the new plan and choose instead to remain as is.

      • Dennis J. Pechavar

        I have 20 or so of the newer Harlies sitting on my shelf waiting for me to get motivated. I really don’t want to have to spend the same amount of time I spent painting my old Harlies.

  • Anderan

    With the community site already making references to Tzaangors I think it’s likely we’ll get T’Sons at the end of January.

    • bobrunnicles

      Tzaangors for 40K are already out, they were part of the initial Tzeentch release last year.

      • Anderan

        I’m not saying they’re new, the community site just tends to make articles mentioning things to do with the next release, in this case “new” units from AoS available to T’Sons.

  • BT

    Still waiting for a EC codex.

  • Boondox

    Most excellent! Congrats to all Xenos players. I’ve been waiting to start a Xenos army and this looks like the year to do it. I hope they expand the Tau auxiliaries with better models for Kroot and Vespid. It would be an awesome chance to introduce some new alien races as well but that’s probably over reaching…

    • euansmith

      Orkz, Kharadron Overlords and Imperial Guard?

      • Boondox

        I was thinking of the Tarellian dog soldiers and Galg but any of the others would be good too.

  • generalian
    • Ak318

      I honestly have seen so many holes poked in this image for one it mentions a couple of AoS releases but not the malaign portenets books we know is coming out in the next few months.

  • Moke

    Given the schedule so far has been two codecies a month, I raise a skeptical eyebrow at this.

    • ZeeLobby

      Well now that the space marine books are out, why rush?

      • Gamecock13

        That I think is exactly the rationale. “We did it guys!” *High fives all around*
        “Sir, we still have quite a few codexes to put out…”
        “But we already high fived. Discussion is closed”

      • Moke

        I lol’d

        Then I remembered Space Wolves.

        Still, though.

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah. Guess they didn’t sell enough Viking flyers and santa sleighs last time around.

  • Luca Lacchini

    Yay, Codex T’au and Drukhari within a few months.
    Let’s hope for something new (for Drukhari, mostly) and for something old (T’au vehicle gizmos).

    • Fergie0044

      well we are already getting something borrowed (stormcast from AoS as custodes) and something blue (TS)….

  • Rainthezangoose

    Orks article about how to start Orks makes me think Orks are sooner then the predicted Q2 list

  • euansmith

    “Custodes last week of January, and probably for 3 more weeks because of multiple releases…”

    So more than just a Codex and some snazzy jetbikes? Cool.

    • Muninwing

      i just finished painting my Sammael.

      now they come out with those and i want a conversion instead.

      fml.

      • euansmith

        😀 😀 😀

    • SacTownBrian

      Bunch of HQs, new cataphracii style terminators and FW said 8th ed rules for their Custodes line at the same Gamesday. If you like Custodes you just hit the jackpot.

  • Nosebleed

    2018, the year of Xenos!

  • Kabal1te

    Poor ork players

    • Munn

      Oh yeah, but screw the 5-8 codexes that come out after them right?

  • SacTownBrian

    Interesting that Phil Kelly all but said that this was a year for amazing new Death models on yesterday’s live feed but they are no where in this release schedule.

    • Boondox

      We’ve only seen half the year so hopefully in Q3-Q4?

  • BartTP

    Genestealer Cults, duh!

  • Adelaide Lee Rosa

    Poor poor Orks.

  • Max Knickerbocker

    I’m waiting on my Space Wolves

  • eMtoN

    I’m looking forward to Vect and Malys.

    But more than that, I’m looking forward to flashing knowing half smiles of evil intent and snickering quietly to myself as my latest victim begins deployment.

    In short, I’m looking forward to a Drukhari codex worthy of the name.

  • Andrew O’Brien

    As a new Harlequin player I’m happy to see them in Q2, but I would love to see Orks sooner than later.

  • Could have done without the Custodes. They are great models but not deserving of a codex before all the mainstream armies. Orks should have been in there instead.