40K Op-Ed: What Happens When GW Grants ALL Our Wishes?

Something really funky is going on guys – we are running out of dream races for GW to bring back…

We’ve been harping for years about all the great races that used to be in the game that GW needed to bring back.  Some of these were from 40K directly and some were factions from other game systems (like EPIC).

In the past couple of years these guys made their way back into the game after over a decade absence:

Harlequins

Genestealer Cult

Deathwatch

Imperial Knights

Then the Boxed games starting coming back:

Necromunda

Blood Bowl

Adeptus Titanicus

 

Now all of a sudden these guys show up and I have a funny feeling they are only the start:

Oh yeah – that’s the ancient Rogue Trader Land Speeder from the 1980s making a return:

 

These guys look a lot like Arbitrator and a Cyber Mastiff to me:

 

And last but certainly NOT least – a Squat returns…

What’s About the Future?

That’s a really good question.  All things retro are red hot these days and GW is reaching way back to give us all the lost gems they can find in the archives. Some obvious culprits if GW is serious about bringing forces like these above back to the game are:

Plastic Sisters

You can only dress these models up with super paint jobs so much in 2018.

Zoats

Tyranid sub-faction – or Tyranid Hunters?

Ambull 

I can dream – and he better be as big as a dreadnought!

Sabre Tank Hunter

Who remembers this guy from 20 years back?

 

GW said late last year that 2018 was going to be the “year of the Xenos” and I think they meant it…

 

~What can you reach way back in time and dig up for GW to return to the game? The list is getting thinner by the day.

  • sephseph

    Battlefleet Gothic….can only dream really.

    • orionburn III

      It is coming back. That was announced like 2 years ago when they created the Specialist Games division. At the time they said things like Blood Bowl, BFG, and othes would return. There simply wasn’t any sort of time frame given.

      Spikey Bits had an article this weekend that said the return of BFG was confired at the HH Weekender, but haven’t been able to find any additional info on it.

      • sephseph

        I know, I remember the announcement about specialist games, then nothing happened…I suppose I was expecting too much too soon 🙂

        And then BFG Armada (and now the sequel) came out, I thought that was happening instead and I got disappointed.

        Oh well, I guess this will happen at some point “Soon™”

        • orionburn III

          I was a bit perplexed that they (Spikey Bits) said it was announced at the Weekender and then nothing else about it. So I don’t know if they simply had a slide saying something about it or if it came from a talk with a GW person. They way it sounded I took it that it meant we’ll see its return this year, and hope to hell that’s true.

  • stinkoman

    I like how you lump plastic sisters with Zoats.

    • Owen Jennings

      He literally put them first, the only thing he could have done more than that is make a separate article. Like everyone else already has

      • stinkoman

        you got me wrong, i wasnt asking him to do more. besides, if you want to call one squat model the return of squats, celestine and her germinae have doen that for plastic sisters.

        • BassTremble

          One model for the squats is there return. For a long time it was up in the air if they where still in 40k or not. This lone model solidified there existence in 40k

          • euansmith

            “Call me “Squat” one more time, buddy, an’ I’m nut you in the ‘nards! I’m just a shorter than average bloke, okay; not a member of some semi-mythical race!”

          • stinkoman

            i mean he could just be a short guy…

          • ZeeLobby

            I mean yes, it proves that the race existed at some point. It doesn’t mean that they still exist in army-sized quantities. The demuirg have been in the fluff since the army was “squated” anyway. I believe when people ask for squats they want, you know, an army.

          • memitchell

            There is also a Beastman Bounty Hunter in Necromunda. I don’t think the odd Forge World addition to Necro means a comeback for Beatmen and Squats in 40K. Twenty-years ago, the Ash Waste Shaman figure for Necro did not herald a Druid “race” for 40K. Necro is a venue for the odd, one-off fig. 40K doesn’t have place for that, except maybe an Inquisition retenue.

          • ZeeLobby

            Yeah. Totally agree. Which is why all claims that “squats are back” or that “this should satisfy people who wanted squats” are just silly…

          • LankTank

            So… are dwarves actually a whole seperate species?

          • ZeeLobby

            Depends what you read. The demiurg we’re always painted as an alien race, with some references to the old ones. At some points I think they might have been rolled into abhumans, being humans from a high-gravity planet (though that’s where halflings. I mean ratlings, came from). I’ve always seem them as a separate species. Another failed experiment of the old ones.

          • ieyke

            The Squats and Demiurg are completely separate races.
            Squats are abhumans, like Ratlings, Ogryns, Beastmen, etc.
            Demiurg are xenos.

            Demiurg are a “reboot” of the “space dwarf” concept that the Squats originally fulfilled. Nowadays Squats are essentially just short humans and show up in boring old Imperial Guard forces, or in Necromunda, or other generic human roles.
            From what little we know about them, the Demiurg appear to be more fully inhabiting the fantasy role of dwarves or gnomes.
            If we’re real technical, the only Demiurg designs we’ve seen shows them more as “space gnomes” in appearance.

            So, if we ever get both fully in 40k, perhaps Squats will be our “space dwarves” and Demiurg out “space gnomes”.

          • ZeeLobby

            Do you have any official sources for that? Everything I’ve read both official and unofficial never differentiate the two. Its just been widely accepted that demuirg is GWs attempt at reintroducing squats into the 40K universe. They’ve always been dwarves (never heard gnomes…). Sqauts was always a silly name and Demiurg seems like a good renaming up there with Orruks and Aeldari. Just curious as to where there’s a source that mentions both as separate entities (must have missed it).

          • ieyke

            I am pretty positive.
            The Demiurg have always been listed among the xenos allies of the Tau and never described as any form of human.
            Squats are well established and recently reestablished as abhumans in the 6th edition rule book, Necromunda, etc.

            Look at Jes Goodwin’s Demiurg concept art.
            The only example we have doesn’t APPEAR to have a beard. He’s got a scaly/stoney, mostly bald head and crazy eyebrows.
            There’s not much separating dwarves and gnomes in overall pop-culture fantasy, aside from that dwarves almost 100% of the time have beards, ergo, I’d say Demiurg might be seen more as Space Gnomes, but the difference is trivial.
            http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/5/57/Demiurg_concept_sketch.jpg

            IF the Demiurg are in any way related to humans, it’s likely not any more closely than Eldar, Jokaero, and Orks (and the other creations of the Old Ones).

            They’re GW’s attempt to reintroduce the general “Space Dwarf” archetype that Squats once represented, not an attempt to reintroduce Squats themselves under a different name.
            Squats are 100% still around.

          • Spade McTrowel

            They are abhumans, same as the ogryn and ratlings. They have a stable mutation naturally selected for living in the heavy gravity of planets in the galactic core and being cut off from the rest of humanity, but their origins were human. Tyranids ate their homeworlds, and the only Squats left are refugees.

          • Mathew G. Smith

            Tyranids eating their homeworlds when said worlds were nowhere near where the hivefleets are active is an enduring mystery.

  • Txabi Etxebarrieta

    To answer your headline, I believe the Dragon Balls turn to stone for a year and scatter across the planet.

  • bobrunnicles

    FW already make the Sabre Tank Hunter (called the Stygies Destroyer Tank Hunter) – I know, I have one in my arsenal 🙂

  • dinodoc

    Battlefleet Gothic

    • orionburn III

      This weekend they apparently said at the HH weekender it is on its way back, but no info on the when unfortunately.

  • Simon Chatterley

    The answer to the question is that I run out of money.

    • stinkoman

      Money part isn’t my bottleneck. it’s the time! so many plastic sprues added to the box of “to do” stuff. i cant even get them built, let alone painted. Then there is setting time to even play each game type enough. not enough time!

      • Boondox

        I feel your pain. I’ve got a backlog of two companies of Space Marines.

  • Netrunner508

    Still no EPIC

    • euansmith

      It looks like it is a very long way off… or maybe it is just very small.

      • Patriarch

        Very good Dougal! You’ve got it!

  • Jani Jalassalo

    would like to see BFG set in HH era

    • NNextremNN

      Wouldn’t that be pretty boring having the same ships on both sides?

  • The_Illusionist

    Still hopeful for Eldar Exodites. I would buy so many Wraithbone-robot-dinosaurs that it’s not even funny.

  • Ken Carroccia

    Mordheim…..remake Mordheim!!!!!!

    • Brutus Motor

      MORD-HEIM! MORD-HEIM! MORD-HEIM!

    • Dennis J. Pechavar

      It’s actually one of the few games that has kept my group happy. Fantasy is seldom played since the End Times but Mordheim I can always get a game. I just hope we get a release(without being a painful pricetag) of the Averland models. I have a set but would love a couple dozen more halberds.

  • gobobobo

    the return of the old world in the shape of a new Warmaster game!… but this might be really far (if ever)

  • eMtoN

    Still hoping someone takes on the job to actually finish the Dark Eldar,.. I mean Drukhari, range.

    Personally, I’d rather see them finish a project before starting a new one.

  • pokemastercube .

    the saber would be something i feel FW would take on

  • I_am_Alpharius

    What will happen next? Nothing different I would imagine. Hobbyist will continue to:
    – Bemoan what GW are doing
    – Complain that GW don’t know how to write rules or implement balance in their games and the rules where better 20 years ago.
    – Campaign that old Warhammer Fantasy should come back and AoS is awful.
    – Cite how background writing is chessy now and like saturday morning cartoons. Even though it has often been that way.
    – Wail about how xzy model or codex has not been updated in years.
    – Cry foul about how all GW release are Space Marines, that Chaos don’t get enough love and Xenos armies are forgotten.
    – Whine about the price of plastic toy soldiers, that are essential a luxury item.
    – Grip about their paint and brush range, being awful and expensive.
    – Claim for the 30th year in a row GW is going to go bankrupt.
    – Invent some corporate conspiracy that the GW executive board are evil, only care about the money and could no care about their customers.

    Did I miss anything?

    • euansmith

      Plastic Thunderhawk?

    • Dennis J. Pechavar

      I still miss Devlin Mud.

      • bad mood

        Army painter – flesh wash, looks better, costs less.

        Sadly I don’t get paid for this blatant advertising. 🙁

        • euansmith

          I’m very happy with my army painter washes; I’m not so hot on their paints mind, except for the coloured sprays.

        • Dennis J. Pechavar

          Strong Tone is indeed amazing and is the closest to Devlan Mud that I’ve seen/used. It is slightly different and I notice it if no one else does on my models. That being said it’s such a slight difference that I’m not that grouchy, it’s more in line with the OP complaint list. The old GW Flesh Wash was

          amazing and happily I still have one bottle left! Their inks were solid as well.

    • I think you’ve spent too much time on the internet. You can take every less then Pollyanna opinion about GW as something other than a personal insult. It will make you and those around you happier. I’m not saying that you should change your opinion about GW, just that maybe you shouldn’t be upset when people disagree with it.

    • HeadHunter

      I think you missed the part where Alpharius will always come in and interject a negative comment, despite following every thread and reading every article. 😉

  • euansmith

    Is that new FW mini an Arbitrator? I thought it was a character for the new Orlocks.

    • Doesn’t look like an Arbiter to me. (is the word really ‘Arbitrator’?)

      • euansmith

        As far as I know, the Arbitrators are the military wing of the Adeptus Arbites; so I think it is correct.

        • EnTyme

          The distinction seems rather Arbitrary to me.

          …I’ll see myself out.

    • Doug

      He is an Orlock special character I think – DEFINATELY Orlock just not sure what.

      • NovaeVox

        Pretty much the guy on the cover of Gang War II, in fact.

  • mafiacheese

    “What happens when GW grants ALL of our wishes?”

    I guess they keep experimenting and making other new stuff?

  • Michael

    Man o War!

    • Andreas Noche

      That fleet has sunken dreadfully…if you understand

      • marlowc

        The game of which you speak, who’s name I shall not utter here, has absolutely nothing to do with the sacred creation that is Man O War 🙂

        • Jeff Daniels

          Those were some beautiful models though. Dreadfleet quality models with Man O’ War quality rules would be a match made in heaven (or in this case, a match made in Davy Jones’ Locker)

  • Sean

    Is that Speeder an upcoming release?

    • Ultra-marine1968

      I need that speeder! I need those … 3 at least! Jeezz, how cool. I surged Warhammer comunity, but can’t find it annywhere!

  • Legitimancer

    Looks more like an orlock than an arbitrator, he’s got the fist belt buckle, and the loincloth that orlocks all rock.

  • Severius_Tolluck

    Hey now, we did get ambulls again. The big box of skulls gw sells now, has an ambull skull in it!

  • m3g4tr0n

    No one wants that garbage. “Plastic Sisters” is just a meme that helps lesser men sleep at night. What consumers really want is Battlefleet Gothic.

    Trust me.

    • NNextremNN

      If they support Tau I would think about it … at least more then SoB sill I like SoB I just don’t want to own them …

  • CloakingDonkey

    Warmaster. With proper support this time!

    • marlowc

      Absolutely yes. Though first a complete rules re-write, then proper support 🙂

      • CloakingDonkey

        a cleanup will suffice. The rules are actually pretty decent as a basis. It’s been adapted for quite a few historical rulesets with streamlining =)

    • gobobobo

      today´s GW could make some really awesome miniatures. Not that the old ones look bad even for today standars.

      • CloakingDonkey

        Yeah the old ones are great but they never got much of it out the door. I wanna see them bring it out with four armies worth of plastic minis. make some hubbub about it. Make it old world as well… 😉

  • marxlives

    Zoats are where it is at.

  • marlowc

    Can GW really grant all our wishes? I mean does Gal Gadot even work for GW?

  • Kabal1te

    What happens when GW grants all our wishes? Simple. They make money. Problem is they are doing that just fine without granting all our wishes so they have no incentive to grant more wishes than they feel they have to.

    • NNextremNN

      They have production and development costs and for some cases there simply are not enough people willing to buy to justify theses costs. Also many people wish for lower prices so they are more likely to go bankrupt and then no one gets anything anymore …

  • Wayne Hood

    They could bring back charging £2.50 for a single miniature…

    …ah the good old days **sniff**

    • NNextremNN

      Do you want to go back to the wages at that time too?

      • HeadHunter

        Proportionally speaking, I could buy more minis with an hour’s work in ’89 than I can today. When characters now cost $35 each, it’s clear that wages have not risen in the same proportion.

    • NNextremNN

      Do you want to go back to the wages at that time too?

  • Dennis J. Pechavar

    We’ll live happily ever after? Cue the end music for Charlie and the Chocolate factory…

  • memitchell

    OK, who the hell “wished” for a Squat Bounty Hunter? No one brave enough to admit to it? Well, knock it off, Dammit!

    Seriously, the newly reported “future of Necromunda” is suddenly so whacky and unexpected, ain’t nobody can claim this is what they were wishing for. This madness, I tell ya!

    • HeadHunter

      I did. Fight me!

  • david

    That’s what I like to see a lost race of Squats.I’ve still have two of the old white metal versions one is an enginseer.

  • zeno666

    How about some focus on the games themselves.
    Like, some good rule sets?

  • J Mad

    Play them game….

  • effinger2

    You forgot the Chimera with a turret! There were 3 variants. I modeled them all and then…. GONE!!! Same with IG jumppack assault troops, IG Landspeeders and IG jet bikes!!!!

  • Chris

    I’ve wanted to see a re-do of the Ambull for years. Always thought they could’ve been an option for Dark Eldar beastmasters.

    Also; I really want to paint that squat up like Macho Man Randy Savage.

  • AnomanderRake

    I’d be surprised if the Sabre were to return as a distinct thing; they’re more likely to call it another alternate Vindicator weapon (along with the laser destroyer).

  • Fraser1191

    Keep squats in Necromunda

  • Derek Lee

    We are in an age of mini titans(IK’s), 2 wound marines, Custodes, and loyalist Primarchs on 40k battlefields. I’d say dreams are coming true.
    Plastic Sisters/Thunder Hawk and a Sabre will only make my Imperium/Space Marine collection happier.

    Emperor help us all if the Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion gets smiled upon by GW. I may have to get serious about a Chaos collection.

  • Reading the title of the article, it could be thought that giving us what we want would not be a very good idea, but I must say that I couldn’t be happier.

    For years and years I had been waiting for the re-release of Necromunda, and once it happened, I instantly preordered almost everything (dice included), and I am going to do the same with every gang GW releases.

    Right now there just three things I would love see come true. A really playable Drukhari codex for the current edition, Sisters of Battle released in plastic and Battle Fleet Gothic. I would be happiest hobbyist ever.

  • NihlusX

    I for one am definetely hoping for more Arbites in Necro

  • Vanders

    I’d like to see the return of the Warhammer World in both rank and file and skirmish form.

  • ieyke

    If your wishes are limited to remakes of old stuff, your wishes are boring.
    A good wishlist for GW is immense.

    – plastic Sisters
    – Zoats
    – Adeptus Arbites
    – Old Ones
    – Jokaero
    – Hrud
    – Enslavers
    – Kroot
    – Vespids
    – Eldar Exodites
    – Eldar Corsairs
    – Ambull
    – Sabre Tank Hunter
    – Legion Of The Damned
    – a race of Fish/squid/octopus people with a nautical steampunk-esque theme
    – Catachan Devils (the monstrous centipede/scorpion beasts, not the IG unit)
    – The Relictors -the most interesting non-First Founding Chapter
    – Fenrisian Kraken
    – Tyranid Nautilus, Dominatrix, Norn Queen, Dactylis, etc etc
    – Barghesi and other the creatures of the Grendel Stars and Ghoul Stars, which are just FULL of terrifying monster aliens.
    – Several of the Dark Eldar retinue creatures could EASILY be turned into a whole army each.
    – etc etc etc

  • Richard Bradley

    The Sabre is in the” Land of Confusion” video by Disturbed

  • Carney3

    I’d like to undo the End Times and return the races, “fluff”, and storyline back to the Old World of Warhammer Fantasy Battles.

  • ieyke

    Also:
    “These guys look a lot like Arbitrator and a Cyber Mastiff”
    ….No they don’t.
    That’s a House Orlock leader and his dog. They look nothing like an Arbite of ANY sort. And that’s CLEARLY a biological dog.

    http://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27073425_10156327863346282_2641026390079277919_n.jpg?oh=4d6d93a6f7c6f0bfdb0cbc0bbca91037&oe=5AE53314