BREAKING – Harlequin Codex Pics & Editions

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It’s HERE! Both versions of the new Harlequin codex have arrived, and they look good!

Feast your eyes on the newest rulebook for Warhammer 40k, the Harlequins.  We have a cover!

 

images via Spikeybitsblog

 

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And here we have the Troupe Master Edition, with all the extra fancy stuff. Only 1000 lucky followers of the Laughing God get these:

 

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Harlequin Rumor Roundup

 

So what’s your opinion on the Limited Edition codices?  Valuable collectible, or overpriced and unneeded?

  • Personally, I don’t see the point of the LE books, BUT I know people who have every one of them.

    So, as with all things: variety of choice is good. So long as the LEs keep selling, GW will keep doing them, and that’s good for everyone.

    • withershadow

      Only one I saw value in was the Blood Angels one because those prints could be framed.

      • ChubToad

        True. But I missed the object. markers that came with the Space Wolves and DE special eds.

  • Manwiththedogs

    Overpriced and unneeded.

    • Ben

      Over priced and unneeded for you…..not for some one else. Stop thinking your values and wallet applies to everyone. Let people buy what they want.

      • Manwiththedogs

        Dude asked for my opinion. I gave it.

        • Ben

          And I’m giving mine. Everyone’s happy then.

          • Manwiththedogs

            Good stuff.

          • A.P.

            you did give your opinion with an
            un- needed jab at a guy for answering a direct question that was replied as intended by the article. More dickish than “just” an opinion.

          • A.P.

            you did give your opinion with an
            un- needed jab at a guy for answering a direct question that was replied as intended by the article. More dickish than “just” an opinion.

        • TweetleBeetle

          Then state it as an opinion; or as a revelation of your personal preferences.

          “Too expensive for my taste, and I don’t really need the LE version,” would have been closer to an opinion than, “Overpriced and unneeded.” You were stating it as though it were a fact; which it isn’t.

          • chris

            If you can’t figure out that pretty much everything in a “comments” section is an opinion then there’s not much hope for you.

          • amaximus167

            When you see “So what’s your opinion on the Limited Edition codices? Valuable collectible, or overpriced and unneeded?” at the bottom of the article you shouldn’t need anymore of an answer than “Overpriced and unneeded” to know that it is someone’s opinion. They asked a specific multiple choice question, he gave a specific multiple choice answer.

            Personally, I am so tired of this jumpy price apologist reaction anytime someone thinks a product is too expensive. These ‘maybe for you…’ responses are really unneeded.

          • Manwiththedogs

            Too many words.

      • Erik Setzer

        “So what’s your opinion on the Limited Edition codices? Valuable collectible, or overpriced and unneeded?”

        Directly from the article.

        Being confrontational with someone just because you can’t be arsed to read the article is a bad look for you, pal.

        • Ben

          Guess I’ll go in my corner and cry myself asleep now… Hate to have a bad look on the interwebz….

        • Ben

          Guess I’ll go in my corner and cry myself asleep now… Hate to have a bad look on the interwebz….

          • Erik Setzer

            Well, at least you might get a good night’s rest and wake up refreshed enough to not act like a twit.

            One could hope, anyway.

          • Ben

            Unlikely…

            But one can hope that you don’t butt (figuratively speaking) into some else’s interwebz converaation with some else…unlikely I’m sure..
            Have a nice day! Let’s do this again sometime.

          • An_Enemy

            You could have posted your opinion separately, but you chose instead to attack someone else’s opinion.

            Interesting way to carry on a conversation…

          • Ben

            And you should mind your own business.. There was no attack, just two people stating their differing opiniona. manwithdogs and I finished our conversation on a high note with nomattacks, but apparently you and Erik feel the need to come to his defense.l think manwithdogs is a big boy and can handle his own conversations.

            In other words, butt out, and let this conversation die with the cordial ending that manwithdogs and I had.

          • Matt

            It’s like the internet and stuff and you posted on a PUBLIC forum. Don’t piss in the wind and then cry when you get spray on your face! You posted on BoLS, you know what you are gonna get.

          • Ben

            But the breeze is so wonderful!

          • Matt

            I’s just poking fun Ben. No harm meant.

          • Ben

            Fair enough. See everyone can still be friends. Do you want to do a bro fist through the interwebz?

          • Matt
          • ChubToad

            Haha beat me to it. Here have an upvote.

          • Ben

            You keep throwing up votes around like this, and some people will call you a floozy….. At least let him buy you a dinner and movie before your throw your up votes around….

          • TweetleBeetle

            So is he not allowed to disagree with the man?

          • Matt

            I encourage disagreement. 🙂 This is BoLS after all.

          • euansmith

            No it isn’t!

          • Ben

            This is BOLS forums, where only hatred at GW is allowed.

          • amaximus167

            Yes, ‘butt out’ of the public internet conversation. HAhahaha.

          • euansmith

            You said, “Butt” …

          • amaximus167

            I am a butt kind of guy!

          • euansmith

            We need all sorts in this army, son!

          • euansmith

            We need all sorts in this army, son!

          • TweetleBeetle

            But he didn’t even state an opinion; he chose an option provided by the article’s publisher and stated it as fact.

          • chris

            You sir are a child or a troll; and that’s a fact. Run away now so the adults can talk.

          • amaximus167

            He did not state it as fact. Once again, he gave his multiple choice answer to a multiple choice question. They asked ‘So what’s your opinion…’ so it would just follow that any answer, whether blunt or verbose is in fact, an opinion.

          • Erik Setzer

            A discussion in a public place, where you initiated it by butting in to tell someone they were wrong for answering a question asked of the public forum?

            Are you an idiot or just that much of a troll?

          • Ben

            You figured it out… I came on here to personally troll you and get your panties in a bunch…. Golf clap… And I would have gotten away with if it wasn’t for you kids and your confounded dog too!

            Here’s an idea.l calm down. Relax and let people have a different of opinion. Manwithdogs and I were fine and moved on. Your keeping a dead end conversation alive…

          • amaximus167

            Good morning. Now that you’ve woken up maybe you’ve realized that posting a comment response to someone on a an article on the internet is not exactly a private conversation AND furthermore that anyone else commenting on your comment is in fact not butting in since it’s a public forum?

          • Erik Setzer

            Well, at least you might get a good night’s rest and wake up refreshed enough to not act like a twit.

            One could hope, anyway.

        • TweetleBeetle

          He wasn’t really asking for our opinions then, was he? I mean, he told us what our only choices were.

          Sort of like voting in politics anymore.

          • Erik Setzer

            Technically, he was… just with a limited range of answers. Basically, “Which of these best represents your opinion?” Like many polls, which might feel incomplete.

  • Matthew

    I know a guy that keeps buying them as well… and he doesn’t even have the mini’s to use the rules.

    Some kind of mind game GW is playing on.

    • Erik Setzer

      Maybe he has plenty of disposable income and likes the look of them on a shelf? I’m not sure how well they match up, but I know the End Times hardbacks look really nice on a shelf together, which is why I will do anything I can to make sure I have Archaon in hardcover to match.

    • Erik Setzer

      Maybe he has plenty of disposable income and likes the look of them on a shelf? I’m not sure how well they match up, but I know the End Times hardbacks look really nice on a shelf together, which is why I will do anything I can to make sure I have Archaon in hardcover to match.

    • Contrary to the usual chatter here, there ARE people who genuinely like GW’s products and buy them to support the company.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        People actually LIKE this game? What heresy is this!? We need to burn your deviant thought, and therefore you, at the stake!

      • nurglespuss

        I agree, except fir the ‘Support the company’ bit. No one is doing that, they are buying products they want & like. Supporting the company financially is a side effect (I.e. The bit the company wants) not the intention of the customer. Now before you say its those who purchase it in a store, rather than online or via second hand, honestly no one is thinking “Ive got a spare £20, I must support Games Workshop!”… No, they think “woohoo, Ive got £20, of to Games Workshop I ho to buy what I fancy!

        • Avensis Astari

          Does the difference matter?

          • nurglespuss

            Yes.

          • Avensis Astari

            Not to GW nor its customers. In fact, I can’t think of anyone who pays money to support a company rather than because of a preference for their product.

            I buy Starbucks hot chocolate over Costa’s not because I want the Americans to crush the British in the Great Coffee Chain Wars, but because ‘Bucks is slightly cheaper and makes much taster cocoa.

            To the business, the endpoint is moot. Only Apple seems to get rabid love from a userbase in that way.

          • nurglespuss

            I’m really not sure what your trying to say here? It almost seems like we are on the same wavelength? You buy starbucks because you like it, and its slightly cheaper than Costa (where you are)…. thats the same point I made, its not to actively support the company, but because it’s what you prefer/want/can afford at that time.

          • TweetleBeetle

            But it is an ACTIVE support of the company, with one’s actions and dollars.

            Just because they aren’t cheering for the company’s brand doesn’t mean they aren’t actively supporting it. In fact, one could argue that spending money on a product is more of a show of active support than an expression of feelings towards a company.

          • Matt

            Personally I buy Swiss Miss to support ConAgra foods. /sarcasm.

        • I wasn’t speaking hypothetically. I was talking about four actual, living human beings I know, who will, indeed, buy a product solely because it helps the Hobby Center they play at.

          I’m not talking about spare change bit purchases, either. One of them collects all the LE books GW publishes. Another bought Smaug… twice, and effectively donated one of them to the store for the display case. The third bought a Realm of Battle table and enough terrain to cover it because the Operator made an offhand comment that it had been a slow sales month. The fourth, a few years ago, bought the last Battle Company box the store had because otherwise the store would have had a $0 day.

          In sales parlance, these people are called Whales, and it’s good to cultivate relationships with them for exactly this reason.

  • Jay DeJarnett

    As long as they don’t come with extra rules or equipment options. They’re not my cup of tea but they’re not hurting anything.

    • euansmith

      Could you imagine the stink if the LE version DID come with extra units and wargear? 😀

      • Me

        This part of the interwebz would probably be radioactive for quite some time.

  • Erik Setzer

    I got the Ork one… but there’s a few reasons for that. First, Orks are my main love, and I have greenskins in every game GW ever made, and that love for the buggers extends so far that I play Orcs in Warcraft, and have done so in other fantasy miniatures games. The Ork LE had a codex and a supplemental book, plus art slides of all the prior Ork books, and a set of nice metal tokens, in a nifty case, for $165. To date, it’s still the best deal of them.

    I haven’t contemplated any of the others. No matter how much I like the army, I won’t pay a high price when too often they come with overpriced “painting guides” that I don’t need anyway. Not going to do it with Harlequins, either.

  • Erik Setzer

    I got the Ork one… but there’s a few reasons for that. First, Orks are my main love, and I have greenskins in every game GW ever made, and that love for the buggers extends so far that I play Orcs in Warcraft, and have done so in other fantasy miniatures games. The Ork LE had a codex and a supplemental book, plus art slides of all the prior Ork books, and a set of nice metal tokens, in a nifty case, for $165. To date, it’s still the best deal of them.

    I haven’t contemplated any of the others. No matter how much I like the army, I won’t pay a high price when too often they come with overpriced “painting guides” that I don’t need anyway. Not going to do it with Harlequins, either.

  • Nogle

    at least they made sense when they came with a supplement(sometimes the supplement was not yet available), but these are too much.
    We had a guy in our club that kept buying them. We had an intervention when he bought all 4 deamons codices

    • dubhgilla

      Are you from the future?

      • crevab

        Didn’t they do limited edition covers for each god?

        • dubhgilla

          Of course, yes they did! Your friend needs help.

    • wibbling

      You… had an intervention? What does that mean?

      • nurglespuss

        its an American thing. Ive only seen it on Family guy, American Dad and How I met your Mother…

        • euansmith

          I think it involves a cellar and duct tape…

      • Avensis Astari

        Everyone sits down in a circle and tells someone they love to stop doing something for their own benefit. Usually drugs, alcohol or snorting Persil.

        • euansmith

          How else am I supposed to get my nose clean?

      • Nogle

        We sat the guy down after he spent $400 on all 4 copies of the same daemon codex (with different gods slipcovers) and told him that he could have bought an army with that, plus they really aren’t worth much down the road. He finally stopped after that. Also he bought a house and really had to tighten the strings.

  • crevab

    Since they’ve discovered these sell out no matter what, how long until the prices push to $250 or 300

    • joetwocrows

      Yes, they will. But, I won’t. I have the DE Archon edition, my son has the Necron Cryptek edition, and my take is GW is, like eldar armies, not quite living up to the hype, especially for a company which has publicly stated they want to cater to a luxury audience.

      Example: The Cryptek slipcover is a creative work. Except the placement of the Necron symbol cutout doesn’t match the place of the symbol printed on the book cover. So, it’s offset, and jars this book lover’s taste. How much more pleasing would it have been to place the cutout over the symbol on the book, and having it ‘shine through’. And it would have cost *nothing* to place it differently. Similarly, that same cutout has raw paper edges. In addition to weakening the book case, it looks cheap. Now, we are talking about an expense to cover the cutout edges, but again, if it’s a luxury good, then GW needs to understand what luxury means. /rant Thank you for your attention.

      Edit: before anybody mentions serpent spam, try playing an eldar army with spamming them. Or, better, a pur DE army. It’s *almost* possible. And that’s my point.

      • Matt Lewis

        It’s a stupid amount of money for a rulebook. I just don’t get it

        • Avensis Astari

          It’s a stupid amount of money for a plastic toy soldier, I just don’t get it.

          Or a bicycle, ticket for a football game, kayak, etc…

          • Matt

            Best thing posted on BoLS today. It’s a hobby and hobby costs money. People have a right to outrage when they overcharge for oxygen and clean water, not when they charge what the market supports for a ancillary luxury item for a hobby.

          • TweetleBeetle

            Shh….no logic permitted on the internet. You must be mad at GW because you believe you deserve everything for free.

          • Matt Lewis

            But you can buy a load of toy soldiers that I’ll actually use for that…

          • Avensis Astari

            True, true, but a lot of people don’t aim to build armies, merely collect.

  • JohnnyTrombone

    I will by buying the LE Sisters codex (if they ever make one) to look at and shelf. In addition a regular codex to game with.
    I may do the same when they do 7e Eldar.
    Only for my armies, though.

    • Matt

      Wonder how much a codex will cost in 2025? 😉 Might want to start saving now.

      • TweetleBeetle

        What does 2025 have to do with now when it comes to table top gaming?

        • Matt

          TIme frame to expect the Sister of Battle codex.

      • JohnnyTrombone

        Stop crushing my dreams!!!

  • chris harrison

    All of you take you aggression over to Warseer where it belongs. I still have the apocalypse backpack!

    • crevab

      I have a SM limited edition, but that was only double the normal price point. not triple… or quadruple

  • Spacefrisian

    Dont care for LE, not my thing if a regular edition (RE also sounds special right?) does the same.

  • Houghten

    You know, when I repeatedly criticised you for thinking that “up for pre-order” was equivalent to “arrived,” I didn’t expect you to double down and start calling things that won’t even be available for pre-order for another 30+ hours “here.”

  • Badgerboy1977

    As far as I’m concerned whether you feel they’re “overpriced and unneeded” is a bit of a moot point as if you do feel that way then they’re clearly not aimed at you.

    If people see a value in these things then what concern is it of others who do not, it makes no difference to their lives, GW’s release schedule is clearly not affected by producing them and there are regular versions available.

    I just fail to see it as an issue in any way.

    • TweetleBeetle

      Because it has to be made an issue for the haters to have a venue. You aren’t allowed to do the same to support GW, however, or else everyone will flame you for pages.

  • Anggul

    I would be tempted to buy the fancy versions if the rules within were complete. As it is though, GW have yet to release a codex without any obviously weak/overpowered units, so I’m not paying out for a flawed product.

    Also the simple fact that there will be another one around in a few years, codices don’t have longevity. It’s not like I can say: ‘well it’s a lot of money but it’s a one-off’.

    • Avensis Astari

      Codex: Tau springs to mind as a Codex with no real deadweight in it.

      • Anggul

        Ah the Vespid, so poor in every codex people forget they exist.

        Also Commanders when they aren’t just TL ignores cover buff machines that don’t actually do any fighting.

        I also consider the cheapness of Riptides a point against the codex rather than a good thing.

        • Avensis Astari

          Vespid aren’t terrible, merely mediocre and overshadowed by dint of being worse at their job than Plasma Crisis Suits and in a very populated FOC Slot. I’ve had them pull some great wins the few times I tried them.

          I dunno, I’ve also found Commanders to be ubiquitous in a Tau list, even without the MSSS & C+CN. My personal favourite loadout is the O’Mortal.

          • Anggul

            Vespid aren’t worth it even if we pretended plasma Crisis didn’t exist. They’re very mediocre.

            Can’t say I’ve ever seen a worthwhile Commander outside of the buffmander. You pay out for stats you don’t need and would generally be better off with a Crisis team.

          • Avensis Astari

            Iridium Armour makes a Commander very worth it for tanking, not to mention decent buffs from Warlord Traits. This all depends on whether you’re talking about tournament play or normal play, though.

      • Matt Lewis

        New cron book, no deadweight really

    • TweetleBeetle

      Every book for every game (that doesn’t suck, or won’t go out of business shortly) has flaws in it.

      Everything you’ve ever paid money for has flaws in it.

      • Mr.Gold

        that is the way they get you to come back for more…

      • euansmith

        Especially multistory dwellings…

      • Anggul

        And yet very rarely to the bizarre and obvious extent of GW codices.

        With most games there will be a few things that can be exploited in unforseen ways due to the wording or something. With GW there are blatant, in-your-face crappy and overpowered things.

        I find it hard to believe they do it unknowingly though. Some things are just so obvious that it’s hard to imagine anyone thinking they’re well-written, I think it may well be so that they can forever dangle the promised new codex in front of everyone, giving them the hope that some day Vanguard/Chosen or Dreadnoughts or Storm Guardians or Pyrovores or Possessed or Ogryns or whatever will be good. Monies and all that.

  • chris

    Overpriced. Every time a new LE comes out I think, maybe this time… However the value just isn’t there for me. 6 coin markers? I can have those made very cheaply. Slipcover? It’s not a real quality one, just a cheap one. No thanks. Etc.
    if I felt it had $200 worth of stuff then I’d buy it. When it feels like maybe $70, then no.

    • Henry Cabot Henhaus III

      Where can you get coins made? How much do they cost?