New Beastclaw Raiders Battalion SPOTTED!

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Come see the new Beastclaw raiders army box is here, and it has a little surprise inside for you Ogor fans!

You saw on Spikey Bits first, checkout the new Warscroll Battalion formation for the Beastclaw Raiders:

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Pretty neat little mortal wound ability on top of their already outstanding mortal wound output!

Icewind Assault $215

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Harbingers of dark months and dead seasons, marauders who stalk through the frozen darkness, the ogor tribes of the Beastclaw Raiders are gargantuan creatures of strength and hunger. Their assaults are relentless and furious, striking with all the suddenness of the encroaching winter. They fight not to conquer or dominate, but for sustenance – they are led by their bellies to their battles, and the victims of their slaughter are consumed, staving off the hunger briefly before the hunt begins anew.

This box set contains the Icewind Assault – an instant collection of Beastclaw Raiders miniatures, with their very own Warscroll Battalion providing them with special rules when fielded together! You’ll receive:

– 1 Frostlord on Stonehorn
– 1 4-man Mournfang Pack
– 1 Beastrider on Thundertusk
– 1 Icebrow Hunter
– 3 Icefall Yhetees
– 4 Frost Sabres

Time to play some Ogors?

  • Horus84cmd

    Spotted?!?

    1. You’ve reported on this before.
    2. It was on pre-order last weekend.
    3. It was released this weekend (see final Weekley WD).
    4. It is currently temporarily out of stock on GW site
    https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/beastclaw-raiders-icewind-assault
    5. It is not the “Start Collecting” battalion set. All of these to date are literally labeled “Start Collect” on the packaging!

    • euansmith

      And you point is? 😉

      • Horus84cmd

        haha now you mention it – yeah I retract the above 🙂 haha

  • Talos2

    “Hit rolls of 6 or more”? There’s more than a 6 these days?

    • Horus84cmd

      To put the passage in to context, the wording is correct – there are various “buffs/debuffs” that will cause “the roll” to be more or less that the “actual” number rolled on the dice.

      Without context you are more right. Except of course, you know, you’re using a D8, D10, D12 etc… 😉

    • Dan Wilson

      So you can get +2 to a hit roll for example. Some people incorrectly interpret this as meaning a 4+ to hit would become a 2+. What it actually means is that say you rolled a 1, after modifiers it’s a 3, so youd still fail your 4+ to hit. So if you rolled a 6 with a +2 roll modifier you’d come out with an 8. This is also technically how the necron res protocols should be played but many just reduce their save. It makes necrons somewhat less beardy to play against when it’s done right.

      • euansmith

        Am I being especially dense this morning? What is the difference between saying you reduce the target number by two, compared to saying you increase the roll by two? In both cases, you miss on a roll of one.

        • Horus84cmd

          and our survey says…….ding! You’re certainly not being dense this morning.

        • Frank Krifka

          Most of the time it’s the same. But in some cases it makes a difference because your trying to exceed a target number by a certain amount. For example:

          Pick a unit and roll a d6. add 1 to the dice roll for every enemy unit within 3″. For every point past 6+ the target unit suffers a mortal wound.

          • Horus84cmd

            Correct. However what you’ve explained is to do with the, actual, wording of the rule you’re following rather than fundamental rules of mathematical sums – which is what Dan is seemingly trying to claim makes a difference…

          • Frank Krifka

            Well that’s because the wording of the rule is important. You could create the same effect with the mathematical sum similar to what The others are talking about. But in the case of that particular effect, re-creating it by lowering the target role rather than adding to the dice roll makes it complicated.

            For example it’s normally for every point above six do one mortal wound, with modifiers adding to the wound role rather than lowering the target. The only way to do that other words would be lowering the target for every time a condition is met like subtract one from the target rule for each enemy model within 3 inches so one enemy unit would be on the 5+, 2 enemy units would be on a 4+ etc. etc.

            While mathematically identical, it seems to be more complicated way to word it.

          • Frank Krifka

            Adding to the dice roll does actually create some mathematical difference. Insofar lowering the target roll creates a cap on maximum amount of wounds that can be created by that particular effect, since you can only exceed a dice roll up to 6. But if you can exceed 6 by stacking modifiers then, at least in theory the wound potential is limited only by the amount of modifiers you can stack.

          • Horus84cmd

            You sir talk much sense. Wholly agree.

  • SundaySilence

    All awesome except those awful Yhetee models… they were crap the first time around and they still are now.

    • Zack Seiders

      the beastclaws ARE another repackage set. Fact that the yhetee and sabres are fine cast models does not help.

      • euansmith

        Jeepers, they not only look horrible, but are Finecast too!

        • Zack Seiders

          I am treating the beast claw guys as an ally detachment to my ironjaws “or If I want to field that goregrunta formation and have something else of diversity” so I am probably going to get thunder tusk, storn horne and mournfang.

  • Borwol

    Any point cos for that?

  • ZeeLobby

    Would never buy anything in finecast…

    • Statham

      You’re missing out. Some great stuff is Finecast only, like a number of character models and the really great Nurgle Harbinger of Decay.

      • ZeeLobby

        Not missing out on having to contact GW 8 times for bubbles in the mold, or half filled pieces snapping on removal. Or swords being limp after sitting an hour in my trunk on a hot day.

        • Statham

          Never had that problem, even from day one and buying the Red Terror as my first kit. I screwed that one up, but that was because I didn’t know plastic glue didn’t work on resin.

          • Mira Bella

            Finecast is absolutely flawless. That’s why they still use it and are not phasing it out… /s

          • Statham

            (shrugs) No need for the sarcasm. Never said it was perfect, not really downplaying anyone’s issues, just said I’ve never had any. I’m all for them replacing figures in plastic now the tech has caught up, and I think stuff like Nagash, the Glottkin, plenty of the AOS line and now Eldrad speak for themselves.

            I’ve said before I want to see a new plastic Abaddon that matches the newer Terminators in size, and a new Typhus that reflects him supposedly being a bloated giant barely contained by his armour.

    • Frank Krifka

      for the most part I’ve been pretty happy with some of the finecast models I’ve worked with. I’ve had a few small issues but nothing customer service hasn’t been able to remedy.

      Truthfully I’d even trade some of my painted metal sculpts for finecast these days (if i didn’t have to repaint them of course.)

      • ZeeLobby

        For the price I’m paying I shouldn’t have to contact customer service… I’d say half the forecast I’ve worked with so far has had bubbles. I’m not going to use green stuff to fill holes on poor casts I pay this much money for… I’d rather take metal over forecast. At least I’d never have to deal with limp swords and flaking paint after I rebend them back into position. A truly horrible material.

        • Frank Krifka

          Well, it’s not like I’ve always had to contact customer service. But on 1 to 2 occasions I have.

          The thing is as sturdy as metal is, The cast quality is just not quite as good. I’ve seen both side-by-side, for someone who takes as much time and attention in painting these models I do the crisp clean cast makes a huge difference.

          And I understand about flaking paint and limp swords after bending them back into position, but I’ve also had problems with metal poles bending, or accident be falling over and snapping, or any of the other myriad of problems that comes with metal.

          In the end it’s always “to each his own”, but again based on my experience the trade-off is one I’m willing to take.

        • bobrunnicles

          Having struggled on more than one occasion with badly cast metal multi-part models (Doombull I’m looking at you!), I’ll generally take Finecast any day of the week for the ease in fixing issues. Also a lot easier to transport since it’s so much lighter.

          • ZeeLobby

            You can’t really compare finecast to old-school GW metal though. I mean the bloodthirster literally came with square pegs for round holes… Infinity and/or WMH would be a much better comparison of modern metal, and those go together quite nicely (they even glue better!).

          • ChubToad

            No they don’t. Clearly you haven’t put together a Megalith or a Woldwarden. What a nightmare.

          • ZeeLobby

            Er… I’ve actually built both with little issue. Maybe it’s just the glue I use? (Loctite gel control). Regardless, nothing compares to how hard it was to glue GW’s old metal minis. Even the surface of newer metal models is more pitted for easier attachment. Some of the older minis were shiny round.

          • ChubToad

            Well you’re a first. Two other Circle players in my area had similar porblems with those models and how ridiculous is to try and glue those paperwights together. Other Circle culprits are Bradigus and eKromac because of that ridiculous idea of hybrid models,

            But then again, we all know you love to defend PP so that’s that too.

          • ZeeLobby

            LoL. OK. Finecast is widely accepted as being a horrible material by the majority of the community. Even GW is moving away from it after realizing it’s shortcomings. I think Infinity’s medal models are pretty easy to glue as well. And I’d much prefer if PP did everything in plastic over metal, but having modeled for decades, newer metal is much easier to glue regardless of system (sorry you have to see everything as biased).

          • ChubToad

            I just hope the Raptor is just plastic.

          • ZeeLobby

            I wish all of their releases were.