AoS RUMORS: Skaven Digging Away

What’s that rustling sound under the rumorfloor? An oldtime rumormeister has some scoop on the return of the nefarious ratmen.

via 75hastings69

“I am expecting Skaven later this year, and as far as I know there will be “some” repacks but also plenty of nasty new additions (I seem to recall it’s much more of a Skyre type affair this time around with new technologies/weapons etc.) but I wouldn’t be surprised to see some new plague monk type things. These currently seem to be the favoured skaven subfactions for GW, hopefully the new book will clarify what Skaven are like in the new setting and their backstory from leaving the old world and what they’ve done since arrival etc.”

Thoughts

There has been word from some time that the reimagined Aelfs are coming after the Kharadron Overlords, but that would still leave the entire second half of the year open for Age of Sigmar.  With the rise of the Great Horned Rat into the Age of Sigmar Chaos Pantheon (see above), I would expect the Skaven to make their return with a grand re-imagined splash.  Just look as the creative “push” old WFB Dwarf units like the Gyrocopter got that led to the Overlord’s steampunk airships. Now think about the END TIMES Skaven minis as a starting point and imagine where GW might push them in the design department.

Perhaps only the beginning…

~ What type of reimagined Skaven would you like to see in the Age of Sigmar? I want tunnelers!

 

 

  • Discoqing

    So what’s exactly happened to Slaanesh?
    His symbol isn’t on that pantheon picture…

    It does seem like its been dropped from AoS.

    • Ak318

      in the fluff it was slanesh was missing and the 3 horned rat took the place. Though with rumors slanessh gets some love soon and this i think we may soon see a war for the 4th throne of the pantheon.

      • Vicent Martín Bonet

        Nope, the fluff is that slaanesh is missing and the skavens CLAIM GHR is the 4th chaos gods. The rest of chaos views them as the upstart its always been, hence why archaon still bears the old sigil of slaanes in his shield , trains his personal guard in the rites of slaanesh, and why he refused GHR’s gift.

        • marxlives

          Pretty cool how they are going into the humans who mutate into rats and rats that mutate into humans thing for the corruption of chaos through the GHR

        • Dennis Finan Jr

          Horned rat is literally a rat. Why trust him

        • Randy Randalman

          There have never only been 4 Chaos Gods. The Horned Rat became the 5th. There are other pieces of pantheonic artwork that showcase all five. Slaanesh may be missing, but the Disciples of Tzeentch book revealed that one of the Arcanite cults is aware of his/her whereabouts.

          • MPSwift

            Hashut and Malal to name just two others… There are many gods of chaos, probably an unlimited number give we are talking about chaos here. The four major gods are just that, major gods.

    • Ross Allan

      That’s an old pic from the first book. Since then, it’s well established his worshippers are seeking him out. Slaanesh isn’t gone. Just missing.

      • Rainthezangoose

        One of the biggest Slannesh still kicking moments of recent, is the fact that the latest warhammerquest is literally about a Slannesh sorcerer lord trying to find out whats happened to the pleasure prince.

        • Sleeplessknight

          “Slaanesh Sorcerer” represented by a generic undivided chaos sorcerer model.

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha. Yeah. Well. That blister wasn’t selling well so…

        • Jim Morr

          However 40k fluff has to be taken into acccount, too. Slaanesh may experience there an accident involving aeldarii. If it happens we may well have Slaanesh out of scope for a few years… new target group, you know.

        • ragelion

          Yeah reading the fluff and the sorcerer’s responses I think slaanesh is still playing the great game. In a slaanesh short story the chaos lord warband leader muses that slaanesh may have “allowed” itself to be captured.

          • Andrew Kerkstra

            Oh that’s the same excuse Tzeentch is always using.

    • Sleeplessknight

      GW wants to tone down their product to a PG-13 level because they want to target children and families with their product. It’s kinda hard to try to market Slaanesh to kids and their conservative christian mothers.

      • ZeeLobby

        Which is just hilarious. I’m pretty sure there are plenty of satanic daemon models still within the range.

        • marxlives

          True but as YT showed us recently anything hinting at the S word is forbidden. Also, keep in mind this is the same game company that released a female space marine equivalent and everyone went bat sheet crazy about how progressive GW is. Like this isn’t current year and that every other wargame manufacturer outside of Nottingham has been doing this for literally over a decade. Nottingham may be into demon worship but when it comes to the S word and Non-Discrimination word, it is a very conservative place. Hell man in their vision of the 40th millennium, Jim Crow laws exist in the Space Marines. Black marines live on the black planet, white marines live on the….every other planet in the galaxy except the Asian planet.

          • ZeeLobby

            LOL. All of this is true. Never even thought about it that far, but so true.

      • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

        “[Slaanesh]’s not been removed permanently, it’s coming back to Age of Sigmar as part of the ongoing narrative.” – Robbie MacNiven, Black Library author.

        • Vicent Martín Bonet

          Which is a dead giveaway since we see “her” sigil in the image. That’s morathi’s, her high-priestess until 7th ed, crown.

        • Sleeplessknight

          If that’s true then when they bring him back they’ll probably reinvent Slaanesh not to include any of the sexual themes Slaanesh is known for.

          • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

            Honestly, 99% of Slaanesh’s sexual themes are either incredibly vague bits of fluff, or the occasional nipple. Wowee. It’s a bit strange that a god which represents the very peaks of the hedonistic treadmill expresses this in a manner no more creative than a Superbowl wardrobe malfunction. I’d be very interested in Slaaneshi models that explore Excess in more creative ways.

            That said, remember GW released a bare-breasted humanoid model in 2013/14 (Bloodwrack Medusa). That’s pretty recent, considering the opportunity/reason to do so doesn’t pop up that often, so I wouldn’t entirely rule out the odd bit of toplessness in upcoming Slaaneshi models.

            And hey, are you sure that you wouldn’t prefer the chance to complain about sexual themes being removed, as opposed to them being left in? 😛

      • marxlives

        Or parents in general. It is the great paradox of being a parent. You forbid your kids from getting into the edgy stuff you used to do as a kid so they can rebel later in life and find themselves. Its called a paradox though cause if you just let kids do whatever they want without guidance or restriction they turn into materialistic, immoral, adult-brats.

    • ZeeLobby

      They’re trying to remove all the boobs from models.

      • Badtucker

        sure… thats why they just brought out Avatar of Ynead…Alarielle .. new sisters stuff etc….oh yes and Drycha Hamadreth who is basicly a naked torso!

        • ZeeLobby

          GW Booby God giveth and taketh.

          • Vicent Martín Bonet

            You can draw them if you want, it’s not that hard.

          • ZeeLobby

            But where’s the third dimension man?!

          • zeno666

            Nor is it a lady 😉
            Its a man-lady

      • Discoqing

        Removing boobs from models is destroying my childhood in more than one way, lol

        • ZeeLobby

          Yeah. It’s silly. Why nudity is such a taboo thing is beyond me. Never felt like it was untastefully done, or out of theme.

          • thereturnofsuppuppers

            Well, sexual violence is kind of a difficult subject to base a young adult mini line on.

          • ZeeLobby

            Let’s be honest here, they’re not “basing” their whole line on it. It was more like 1/60th of their line. And it’s not like HH has downplayed any of this. Just sad to watch the edge get slowly ground down to a soft child-safe nub for parents who must not let their kids turn on the television.

          • bobrunnicles

            Unless it’s R-Rated violence. Perfectly fine to let your kids see that. No boobies though!

          • ZeeLobby

            Haha, yeah, god forbid you have to explain what a boob is, with their mother’s boobs right there. I wonder how much of this causes the creation of future sexual deviants, the whole “forbidden” nature of such things.

    • Vicent Martín Bonet

      You’re seeing it, they changed it.

    • Manuel Bateman

      think they’re dropping slaneesh to become more PG13 no more sexy sadomaso thingy..
      look at 40k the eldar might kill him there to

      • Vicent Martín Bonet

        Which is why followers of slaanesh have figured more heavily in the lore (and newer artwork) than they did in old fantasy during its last 5 years.

    • Malisteen

      Its symbol is on the pantheon picture. The bottom one, opposite khorne, is slaanesh’s symbol. It’s just collapsed (take out the central bar, squish the remaining bits together), to represent that slaanesh itself is currently missing in AoS lore.

  • Christie Bryden

    can we get stuff that isnt chaos and order, prefferebaly less order, way too much order, death has had no new modles since AoS started.

    • ZeeLobby

      Ah. Space Marine syndrome. Welcome to 40K fantasy!

  • orionburn

    Question for you AoS gurus. I’ve been looking to get into AoS and doing Seraphon as I have an old Lizardmen army. I’ve noticed that GW seems to have axed the Troglodon and Carnosaur models. Not an out of stock thing but sold out and won’t be coming back. That makes me a bit gunshy of buying some of the newer models and then finding out they won’t be usable in the near future. Have they phased out a fair amount of models from other armies?

    • Sleeplessknight

      Many models were phased out in order for GW to slim down the range.

      • orionburn

        So even for those that have been discontinued are they still okay to use in the game? Just more difficult to get them now?

        • Karru

          They should be, as long as you have the warscroll for them. Tomb Kings and Bretonnians have rules for their models still.

          It’s just GW wanting to lessen the amount of races that people should play. They’d prefer if people played Order (especially Sigmarines) and Chaos instead of anyone else. It’s just the current GW way of doing things.

        • ReverendTiberiusJackhammer

          They’ve put active effort into keeping discontinued models game ready. AoS points values are published separately in the General’s Handbook, which includes points costs for models/ranges that were discontinued prior to the handbook’s release. Tomb Kings are noted to be receiving a rebalancing in GH2, I believe.

          Usage of keywords allows old models to interact with new rules in interesting ways – for example, since the discontinued Wood Elf Treekin were given the Sylvaneth keyword, they’re 100% compatible with the rules from the Sylvaneth Battletome.

        • ZeeLobby

          For now. As others have pointed out, they’re currently kept active. But I find it hard to believe that 2/3 years from now they’ll still continue to support models they no longer produce. There will be some transition period where support is up-kept, and I imagine each General’s Handbook will slowly move things out as new factions/models are released.

    • Tom Higgins

      Both showing as in stock on UK GW website, I know its the same kit and you get one included in the start collecting box as well, as confirmation I bought the start collecting box last year. and checked GW website before making this comment. as to stock levels.

      • orionburn

        It just surprised me that it was marked as actually sold out and not just the usual “temporarily out of stock.” Didn’t want to end up purchasing models that I can’t use by the time it’s put together and painted…lol

        • thereturnofsuppuppers

          Also get some temple guard/saurus guard.

          They are great.

    • karloss01

      The Carnosaur (and its alternate assemblies) are still in stock on the UK site, they’re also in the battletome and the getting started set. They’re here to stay.

    • Rumo S

      Also, the kit comes in the Start Collecting! box, for the same price as the kit itself! They probably saw it as pointless as trying to sell it alone

      • orionburn

        Yeah, I realized that after the fact. I didn’t catch that the Troglodon could be built out of the same kit as the Carnosaur.

    • Alexander Lucard

      They aren’t axed. You just have to purchase the “Start Collecting” boxes to get one.

  • bfmusashi

    Eshin’s been in every book, they’re just very good at their job.

    • ZeeLobby

      They’re Alpharius

      • bfmusashi

        Alpharius revealed to be three Skaven in a suit of armor. Which isn’t a big leap since the 40k equivalent of Skaven is totes the IoM 🙂

  • Andrew

    That’s not the sigil of the Great Horned Rat. That’s either Morathi, or a re-stylized version of the symbol of Slaanesh.

    • Jesse Cavazos

      Yes, it is. It’s shown in End Times: Thanquol as the Horned Rat’s sigil.

  • Keith Wilson

    what about death …….

  • Timotheus

    “Just look as the creative “push” old WFB Dwarf units like the Gyrocopter got that led to the Overlord’s steampunk airships. Now think about the END TIMES Skaven minis as a starting point and imagine where GW might push them in the design department.”

    To a point where Skaven never should have gotten. They should be small sneaky rats after all and not giant monsters and machines…

    • Mr.Custodes

      Maybe for that one ninja rat clan. I play Clan Skyre, and I welcome our new Cybernetic Rat Overords.

      • ZeeLobby

        Using tech is one thing, but I bet most of the new Skaven units will be giant monstrosities on giant bases.

        • Timotheus

          That

    • Moonsaves

      I’d love a huge, mawkrusha-sized rat mount.

  • Hagwert

    If they can get rid of a God who represents excess and are being pestered by animal rights groups about depicting fur how safe are any of the chaos gods. Khornes followers are all depicted as steroid fuelled, knife wielding maniac body builders with a lust for blood , which is exactly the kind of lunatic who attacked people in London last week. If the press ever found out such models and fluff were being sold to children they would have a field day and GW would soon cave in to the pressure .

    • EnTyme

      Slaanesh isn’t being removed or toned down. GW basically spent the next week making fun of PETA. Any member of the press can freely walk into a GW store and see that they are selling bloodythirsty cannibals and demons to whoever has the cash. There is no story here. Please move along.

  • Gunther Clone C

    Seriously hope the old sculpts are trashed and new sculpts come in…like…all of them. Clan Eshin really needs some love, and so does clan Pestilens. And every weapons team, that isn’t resin (but honestly, these should be plastic too), needs a fresh clam pack. lol.

  • Jared van Kell

    Since Thanquol became the head of the Grey Seers I am curious as to what has happened to him since the End Times.