40K: Next Three Codexes Confirmed

Games Workshop said that we’d see 10 codexes by the end of the year – well here they are AND the first one for next year!

This weekend at the Blood & Glory Games Workshop showed off a ton of cool new things and one of the biggest announcements was the confirmation of the next THREE Codexes. Two for this year and one for January.

via Warhammer Community

Firstly, we did tell you you’d be getting 10 codexes this year, and we can confirm that the next two will be… (dramatic fanfare please):

That’s right – Codex Blood Angels and Codex Dark Angels are up next! See, it is an Imperial AND a Chaos Codex to wrap-up the end of the year. It totally follows GW’s pattern. And if that wasn’t enough, we’re also getting a peak at what the first codex is for next year, too:

That’s right – Chaos Daemons are coming to party in 2018!

It’s pretty impressive if you think about the fact that GW has cranked out 10 codexes in 6 months. That gives me hope for next year’s releases (Looking at you Orks and Necrons).

 

Are you ready for the return of the Angels of Death?

  • Gorsameth

    My Space Wolves 🙁

    Tho it does keep the hope for Russ alive ^^

    • LankTank

      I would think that is a good thing. If they released wolves this year that would mean definitely NO new kit to coincide.
      Imagine a new Triumvirate box of Russ, a Custodian baller and Deathwatch character alongside the Wolf and Deathwatch codex’s =P

      • cuda1179

        I desperately want a Custodian HQ. I have 3600 points of the guys and no legal way to field them alone. I don’t care how an HQ is added: Campaign, Chapter Approved article, new codex, or Fires Of Craxys. Just let me have my Custodian army.

        • BrianDavion

          it’d be nice yeah, I’d not mind an HQ so I can field them as a seperate detachment along side my Space Marines without losing chapter tactics

        • FCBullsht

          You can legally field them with any IMPERIUM keyword HQ you like

          • Richovic

            Not if you want that codex tactics tho.

          • LankTank

            Well you can have the space marines with chapter tactics all in one detachment, then the custodians who do not have any in a separate detachment with any HQ.
            You will still get all the SM stratagems as you have a detachment, the relics if your warlord is a SM and also the chapter tactics for all SM in the detachment

          • Mr.Gold

            field a Guard/Inquisition Character (Guard for cheap HQ, Inq, for a fluffy HQ).

          • cuda1179

            Yeah, I could feild them that way, but it just doesn’t feel “right”. All these units all ready exist in 30k via ForgeWorld. Why they don’t just port them over to 40k is beyond me. I guess they just don’t like money.

        • LankTank

          That story is equally awesome for that army and equally heartbreaking for the final missing piece.
          *hugs* “I’m here for you bro”

      • FCBullsht

        Imagine three boxes with all of them being seperate, not forcing you two buy two models you dont care for just to get the one you want…

        • LankTank

          They have been splitting the Triumvirate boxes split up but you get an opportunity to buy them together at discount. I still like them. Any if you got it you could always sell the ones you dont want

      • Aaron

        Auxiliary detachment for -1CP

        • LankTank

          Surprisingly ive been doing that more, taking an aux of csm with my dg so I get access to tide of traitors, daemonforge and daemon shell

    • Wolf-Assassin

      i booth hope and dread the return of russ because it would mean the end time.

      • LordKrungharr

        But it would mean the beginning of Wolf Time!

        • cuda1179

          Russ said he would return for the Wolf Time. He didn’t say he wouldn’t return until the Wolf Time. Slightly different meanings, technically speaking.

          • Wolf-Assassin

            Listen but closely Brothers, for my life’s breath is all but spent. There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying, even as I am now dying, and our foes shall gather to destroy us. Then my children, I shall listen for your call in whatever realm of death holds me, and come I shall, no matter what the laws of life and death forbid. At the end I will be there. For the final battle, For the Wolftime.

      • Jack

        Like GW will release him. They only care for girlyman

  • Stephen Henry IV

    My Thousand Sons weeps for their codex. I hope they get some new goodies. 🙂

    • LankTank

      It would be a good sign! 1 army release a quarter. My money is on either wolves (With a Russ Triumvirate), Thousand Sons or Daemons getting some love

      • BT

        Err… you saw where it said demons are being released in January, right? That was the 3rd book they were talking about….

        • LankTank

          I meant in terms of new models. Not codex. There is no guarantee that though daemons are first for the quarter that they will get models

    • Marco Marantz

      TS and Wolves will likely come out sequentially. remember, if history is anything to go by, the later the release generally the better the codex.

      • Randy Randalman

        Except in every edition ever where that hasn’t been the case. I mean, Eldar and Demons, with a splash of biker-superfriends Space Marines dominated 7th at the end, and they weren’t the last codices. End of 6th was Dark Eldar… Enough said.

        It’s virtually never held up that the newest is the strongest. It’s been pretty random, actually.

        Furthermore, most of these codices for 8th have already been written. Astra Militarum was the first one completed, but released after five others.

        • Marco Marantz

          Bzzzt wrong. 2nd ed had chaos and tyranids as the last codexes and they were the strongest. the term codex creep was coined for a reason. there might be dips in relative strengths but in most editions the later editions are better. Its part of the sales strategy. I shouold add that of the most recent editions, SW and DA were some of the last released codexes and they were quite strong with Ravenguard and general undercostedness of SW/wulfen.

          • Iconoc1ast

            i though the faq was there to stop that. i.e. AM conscript nerfing.

          • Marco Marantz

            yes but not everything is getting addressed through faqs or addressed enough. still better than waiting for the next edition

          • Iconoc1ast

            i know but i think they are making an effort this time round. bring it up on the community pages as well. if enough people see it and it is constructive, gw may react to it..?

          • Marco Marantz

            i write directly to the gamefaqs team. It is worth a shot and GW are engaging with the community but i dont know how they are actioning some feedback (espec playtesting in the first place) when they turn around in faqs only weeks after release and change things which players immediately see are problems (IG being classic eg). Its like they dont play test some of this stuff which players can see is a problem before they even encounter it on the table. I squarely put this down to the rules team. Although we have known for some time that rules are changed to promote sales. GW just seem incapable of making a purely balanced ruleset and let its success make money. GW try to encourage existing players to buy numerous factions based on whats flavor of the month…and players buy into it. Alot of veteran wargamers I know never touched the big GW games (40k and fantasy) because of this.

          • zeno666

            True words indeed!

          • SWISSchris

            I’m sure I remember the last codex in 2nd was Sisters of Battle…?

          • BT

            Weather he has his facts straight doesn’t mean what he said isn’t true. I played 6th ed using 4th ed codices for Orks and Eldar. There was a point in time GW didn’t release more than 2 Codices a year, and over that time new concepts and rules would come out. Heck, it was the reason why Thunderwolves were so broken to this day. Everything from 4th ed to 6th ed, generally the later the codex the better.

            You can even look at 7th ed with Formations… Orks were the first Codex released, they had 1 real formation (Green Tide) and nids were the second release and didn’t even get formations. It took GW a bit to get creative and fully explore the Formation rule, which was a huge part of the game. There is a reason why Orks and nids were considered weak tourney Codices… due to codex creep.

          • Marco Marantz

            Good point. Formations seemed to be a concept conceived after the first couple of codex releases, to those factions detriment.

          • Marco Marantz

            Id have to check the release date on the sisters codex. It was about half the size of the other ‘dexes and i thought it was just a combination of white dwarf articles on sisters stuff. that said, i didnt state explicitly that every codex is totally superior to the previous one but the trend is there. Sometimes the dexes dip a little, but there are often some really strong units released even in an avg codex. GW cant keep releasing new units but they do change the stats on stuff to sell what have been less popular units. Formations were a great way to move some of those units which people would normally avoid.

    • BT

      Well, with the Deathguard book coming out of no-where, you can feel pretty safe in assuming you will get a 1kSon book again. What gives me hope is that a real World Eater and Emperor’s Children book will be released. 6 chaos codices… maybe more if they re-print Demonkin… buy why not just make that a part of the World Eater book?

      • Marco Marantz

        i wouldnt hold my breath for an EC and WE codex. They were included in the CSM dex. I cant see GW creating new units to warrant a stand alone dex. Id love to be disappointed although im curious how rules for Fulgrim and Angron will be published.

      • LankTank

        Well at the current rate of release all xodexes will drop by June/july and they have states that t.sons will definately get one. World eaters and ec won’t.

  • Ryan Freivalds

    Is it weird to say I had no problems with Khorne daemons until they became the poster boy for all daemons?

    • dynath

      They are the most photogenic though. with their lop sided grin and symmetrical horns 🙂

      • Marcus Clark

        They did, but Nurgle has stolen that crown since the End Times Campaign and the beginning of the 8th.
        No one cares about Slaanesh anymore, gone are the days of multiple bare breasted shemale demons with Claws for Arms. Thank you minimal’s and getting offended by everything

  • I_am_Alpharius

    Have to admit…I wasn’t expecting DA and BA coming until 2018. I had my money on T’au and Demons being the final two for 2017. Hey-ho, thems the break.

    Question is then: with Demons being first in 2018 could they be the 40K army that gets new kits for Q1? or will that honor go to other armies being getting their codex in Q1? Interesting times……Or could we see a twist to the end of the year and good old Lion’el Johnsons’ or Sanguinius going to make an appearance at the 11th hour? – or in a crazy crazy shock both? Yikes. Stranger things have happened….

    • LankTank

      You thinking the 2 greater daemons, Fiends and Beasts? Was their anything else that needed plastic love?

      • Mathew G. Smith

        All the Slaaneshi stuff is probably getting a redesign, they seem kind of embarrassed by the whole line. Most likely it’ll tie in with hir return in AOS.

        • I_am_Alpharius

          I’m honestly unsure this will happen. I mean sure their “plot” line has been put on the back burner, so to speak, in AoS and, to some extent, in 40K too. Yet, I don’t feel that necessarily equates to GW want to re-design the entire range – I can’t help but think that would be a very big investment for a collection of miniature,s that likely, always sat somewhere in the middle in terms of sales.

          • BT

            Two things drive sales… good rules and good looking figs. If Slannesh forces are suffering, it is because of that. Only reason why Deathguard were so popular is because of the crazy good rules they got. Let’s face it, +1 Init and OK sonic weaponry versus +1 Toughness /AND/ FNP /AND/ a extra special weapon in your 5 man squad /AND/ plague knives? Yeah, if your gonna play Chaos, which would /you/ choose? not like they made the other 3 even close in comparison.

            But with 30k being released, I think they saw how well Emperor’s Children sold. They are getting better rules for EC, and that will increase the popularity. They can do a lot with Sonic weaponry and just saying ‘You go first in melee’ helps a ton. They just have no real kits to support EC in 40k, but if they do what they did for Deathguard for every other faction, Chaos space marines has a chance to be a amazing faction.

          • dante13

            Slaanesh and Emperors Children every time.. Nurgle is just not that sexy baby…

          • Marco Marantz

            I play khrone cuz ive been into him since realm of darkness days and it fits my personality but i do think EC are cool. I think part of GWs eternal problem with them is that given the 40K rulesets, what ECs abilities and strengths are were just too hard to reflect without making them OP. Their debilitation and mind affecting powers should be super strong

          • zeno666

            Making things OP haven’t stopped GW before 🙂
            It sells models

        • Chet Atkinson

          I don’t see them as being embarrassed considering they’ve not long released a Start Collecting box for them. However I would love to see a big AoS/40k release for Slaaneshi stuff going down the same route as Nurgle, Tzeentch Khorne 🙂

      • I_am_Alpharius

        Yeah something like that. Demons have some characters that would need plastics too. I’d err more toward Nurgle kits, since this ties with the Death Guard. I’d imagine that AoS could get its Nurgle Battle Tomb at the same time (akin to Blades of Khorne).

  • Inco Gnito

    Yay! Blood for the blood g… uh… I mean Emperor… blood for the Emperor

  • Simon Chatterley

    Cool!

    Another Chaos codex before Christmas and then another in January

    • Iconoc1ast

      XD oh you….

      • Simon Chatterley

        But because I’m a tease I didn’t say which Chaos book before Christmas 😉

        • Iconoc1ast

          hahaha

        • euansmith

          “… so, they vanished in to the Eye of Terror for 10,000 years, and, when they returned, they are literal man-beasts; and yet, you claim, they are not Chaos Beastmen?!”

          “No, it is just an unfortunate effect of degeneration the Canis Helix, nothing Chaotic at all.”

          “Well, can you at least get them to use the facilities or go outside when relieving themselves; we’ve just had new carpets fitted.”

  • KombatWombat

    I know this sounds like a broken record, but seeing Black Templars being referred to as ‘brethren who adhere more closely to the Codex’ is agonising…

    • Marcus Clark

      to be fair black templar were not a founding chapter

      • KombatWombat

        So? They had their own Codex for a long time that led people to collect armies of them, they were the poster boys of an entire edition (3rd), an argument could be made that they are *the* fan-favourite chapter (Space Wolves being their main competition) despite going four editions without a Codex of their own, they’re categorically the largest Chapter by a considerable margin, a large part of their identity is defined by their refusal to follow the tenets of the Codex to the point that only the Wolves could be argued to be less Codex-compliant, they’re a melee-focused army shoehorned into a Codex balanced for shooting so they never really function as an army, and they already have a solid start on their own model line, and I think I’m right in saying that, apart from Squats, they’re the only army to have a full Codex of their own at one point and then to have that taken away from them.

        A few editions ago, they had just as unique an army as the Blood Angels/Dark Angels did at the time, but for whatever reason, when 5th rolled around GW decided to invent new units for the Angels to justify them keeping their own books, but instead of giving Templars the same treatment they went the other way and watered them down, shoving them into the vanilla Codex where they really, really did not work. If you go right back to the heart of it, the only First Founding Chapter that really needs a unique Codex is Space Wolves. All the others would function fine in the main Codex with a couple of special rules, a special berserker unit for the Blood Angels and a nice veteran biker unit for the Dark Angels.

        It’s just unfathomable that two Chapters that follow the Codex Astartes almost word-for-word have units added to them in a contrived excuse to justify having their own book, but the Chapter that is genuinely and famously non-Codex-compliant gets lumped in with ‘their brethren who adhere to the Codex more closely’.

        /rant

        • Marcus Clark

          Wow so yor a templar fan congrats. Yes temolar wwre tge poster boys for the 3rd. Just like blood angels were for tge second and ultramarines wwre for rouge trader. Spacewolve are unique and fully deserve a codex. Templar while unique are still not different enough. Also refering to DA, and BA as vanilla with 1 different unit. Either your naive or havent bothered reading into other chapters. Crimson fists, salamanders, flesh tearers, iron skulls, white scars are great chapters that also wont get their own codex. We will have to wait for chapter approved.

          • KombatWombat

            Thank you, we Templar fans take pride in our zealotry.

            I’m not sure you’ve responded to most of my post but I’ll reply to what you have said. Yes, Blood Angels and Ultras have been the poster boys in the past, and both have their own books… I’m not sure how this disqualifies Templars from being the same and having their own book?

            Templars are only somewhat unique because they’ve been shackled to the main Codex for years. Their entire background suggests that if they were given the opportunity of their own book, they would be far more unique than either of the Angels.

            BA in 3rd had Death Company, some special Characters and a unique loadout for a Dreadnought and a Predator. . Templars in 3rd had Crusader Squads, some special Characters and a unique loadout for the Land Raider. DA in 3rd had not much different. Why if those three are the Templars less unique?

            Of the other Chapters, Sallies are Codex-compliant apart from Firedrakes, which are well approximated by thunder hammer Terminators, white scars use normal bikes as troops and have veteran bikers,Crimson fists are totally Codex-compliant, flesh tearers have… basically death company in larger numbers? None of these are fundamentally different enough front the Codex to take preference over the Templars.

          • LankTank

            Templars are sons of dorn. Dorn followed the codex. We all wish we could get luxxx treatment but other than flamers and swords over bolters they arent much different. They dont have angels, they dont have weird chaos cult issues, they dont have pets. They are just very angry marines

          • KombatWombat

            Being sons of Dorn doesn’t in any way mean they follow the Codex. The Imperial Fists Legionaries that became the Imperial Fists Chapter followed the Codex, but those Legionaries who took up the Eternal Crusade after Sigismund to become the Black Templars emphatically did not.

            There’s nothing about either of the Angels that makes them distinct enough for an entire Codex. The entire Blood Angels Chapter follows the Codex (I think it helps give them focus/discipline to avoid the Black Rage?) except for the Death Company and co, which would be easily given rules for the one DC unit and the Sanguinary Priest. Other than that they have a penchant for Jump Packs, which wouldn’t even require a special rule, and an extra loadout for a Predator. They also have extra Dreadnoughts and Sanguinary Guard added in as filler units to justify the cost of having their own book, but any Chapter in the same situation would have units made up as page/model line fillers. Dark Angels historically had a larger number of Terminator suits, which again wouldn’t even need special rules just army selection, and Veteran bikers which are an easy one-unit add, plus Chaplains that needed maybe one extra line of special rules. The flyers and Land Speeders (and Deathwing Knights) are another thing that we’re added to pad out the book and model line. Like Sanguinary Guard they existed because of the book; the book didn’t need to exist because of them.

            Contrast to BT, who don’t follow the Codex at all, who don’t make use of Devastator Squads (or any infantry-mounted heavy weaponry I think?), don’t use Tactical Squads, Scouts, Scout Bikers, Land Speeder Storms, the entire concept of a Librarius or even allying with psykers. They use semi-hordes of infantry, are the only major Chapter to give their line infantry melee and specialist melee weaponry, and arm their bikers in a similar fashion. They don’t even use designated squad leaders. Their entire function as an army is markedly different from any other major Chapter, similar to how the Space Wolves’ is. They’re a semi-horde, semi-elite close combat army without psyker support or a focus on ranged firepower. Compare that to the main Codex Chapters, and both Angels, who are elite, low-count elite army with psyker support who use melee as a backup to their ranged shooting focus. It seems self-evident that for a BT army to function properly and be balanced against other armies, it can’t be shackled with a Codex balanced around shooting. Particularly as BT played as BT have been the weakest main Codex army since they got rolled in with the other Chapters.

            The issue comes about because, of all major Chapters except perhaps Space Wolves the BT justified a distinct Codex the most, and indeed they had one, which was taken away. It’s not as bad as being squatted, but it’s still easy to see why BT players get salty – particularly when two Chapters that really don’t need it get the luxxx treatment. Particularly when Blood Angels moan about being the weakest Chapter and the red-headed stepchild when BT players would often kill for the close combat rules BA get.

        • NikosanPrime

          Harlequins. Had a fully functioning Army in RT and 2nd Ed.: 3 HQ’s, 1 Troop, 1 Elite, 1 Heavy, 1 Fast Attack. (Mimes were never released for some reason so who knows if they would have been a 2nd Troop, Elite or Fast Attack). Could loot vehicles from any army and field Eldar Dreadnoughts.

          Now they get shiny new vehicles and Jet Bikes but they lost their the High Avatar (pre-Eldar Avatar, equivalent to a Masque Master if they had that role now), the High Warlock (would be High Shadowseer or something similar now), Units of Shadowseers, Units of Death Jesters and of course the ability to literally field any vehicle from any army (so long as it was painted in Harlequin colours)(I can see brightly painted Necron flyers converted with Harlequins leaping off of them) with of course the caveat that they could break down at any point because the Harlequins would not maintain technology from any other species.

          So there is my rant of an Army that got stomped on. And I have well over 140 Harlequins. Including 4 Solitaires, 3 High Warlocks, 3 High Avatars, 12+ Shadowseers, 7+ Death Jesters and I have no clue how many Troopes. But I have been playing since the 1st Ed. of this game so I remember when Black Templars were some new poster army that GW came up with.

          Not that I am saying that they were not interesting, but about the same level of interesting as Ultramarines, but because they were poster boys for GW they got a lot of love for awhile.

          • KombatWombat

            Ah I’ll give you that I hadn’t thought of Harlies. But then, they have their own Codex now (well, Codex last edition, Index current with a likely Codex on the way). The only other army I can think of that has had a Codex and lost it is Catachans… who i believe are in exactly the same boat as Templars and should have their own Codex!

            I think Templars are equally as interesting as Ultramarines, but then Ultras get their own Codex (if we’re brutally honest, Codex Space Marines is Codex Space Ultrmarines with other Chapters tacked on). I think they should have just as much attention as Ultramarines, for no other reason than they are likely more popular and have more hobbling options than the Ultras do!

          • Spacefrisian

            No jetbikes and venoms made from Raiders?

        • Spacefrisian

          Its a good thing BT were folded in, it wasnt that different from others, and i get more options fielding mine now than ever before.

          Now if only they had put the other 3 in the Astartes dex as well…It would have been glorious.

      • Codex: Imperial Fists + Black Templars?

        • KombatWombat

          It sounds like a good idea, but you’d have to consider that the Fists took to the Codex Astartes second only in thoroughness to the ultrmarines, so having heir own book seems very superfluous when the main Codex does a very good job of representing them anyway.

  • DoctorBored

    I foresee all of these Codexes getting zero new models, except maybe some repackaging.

    Any Codex that’s going to come with models they will probably not release until it’s closer… That’s my bet.

    • Maitre Lord Ironfist

      with primaris they techniclygot new Minis

      • euansmith

        I imagine that Primaris sent to Fenris and the Rock will face a certain amount of ostracism from the current inhabitants.

        • BT

          Totally… in fact, you could argue Blood Angels would never accept them because they have no real link to Sang (and thus could never get the Black Rage).

          Personally, I think it would be fitting that all 3 of those chapters would refuse or never get Primaris Marines.

          But that makes sense, and GW is to greedy to not give Primaris to them. All I know is I will never get them for my Lamentors.

        • Deathwing

          There would be no “new” primaris made on Mars sent to these chapters. Guilly would simply give them the tech to “upgrade” current marines and make new ones as they get recruited/indoctrinated. So 100 years after the return of Guilliman there would only be primaris blood angels or dark angels fully indoctrinated into their own chapters lore, culture, and loyalties

          • euansmith

            Good point. So Guilliman is handing over his war winning tech to at least one highly suspect Space Marine Chapter. Coming soon, Renegade Primaris Marines 😉

    • Spacefrisian

      I expect a great deal losing the bike option.

  • Dennis J. Pechavar

    Lets see how they make the DA’s fluff even worse in this book. Sorry bitter on fluff changes since Thorpes book years ago.

    • Boondox

      You mean being green Native American monks with a permanent grim dark enema and daddy complex? I played DA in the Rogue Trader days and completely lost interest after they changed.

      • dante13

        Thats why we need Fallen Armies so we can have the real non enema Dark Angels…

      • Dennis J. Pechavar

        Well the green monks just before that Space Hulk supplement. I didn’t know the Rogue Trader until later but I understand the stress.

    • Spacefrisian

      Cypher becomes buddies with th chapter again…

      • Dennis J. Pechavar

        Drinking cups of tea and just laughing and laughing about that long game of tag.

  • dave long island

    wer is da green wun. dats da wun we need. Orks is da best cuz Orks iz da best. lajek

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Next year. They will get cool stuff in the Chapter Approved book

  • Gamecock13

    Awesome, more subfactions before primary army codexes.

    • Marcus Clark

      if DA and BA are sub factions so are Demons and Thousandsons.

      • Gamecock13

        They are ineed! I don’t know where demons falls, but 1k Sons is indeed a subfaction housed under the primary “Chaos Space Marines” army. Giving BA a codex is the equivilant of giving Hive Fleet Kraken their own codex or the Kabal of the Black Heart.

        I have no issue with GW wanting to expand the lore specifically around those subsfactions, but I do take exception with entire groups like Orks, Dark Eldar, and Tau not getting anything when DA have their new rules.

        • BT

          Because power armor.

        • becizzle

          Heretic! Blood Angels are one of the most iconic and important chapters in the lore! They’re also one of the oldest “supported” chapters. For Sanguinius!

          • Gamecock13

            Haha, I have a BA army actually. It was my first ever some 22 years ago, but it still is kind of messed up that that SM and CSM subfactions are getting codexes prior to cohorts of players to play a major army. BA players can technically already play with new stratagems given the generic SM codex is out. A Dark Eldar or Necron player is becoming quickly overpowered given point reductions/stratagems/traits, however.

            Love that BA get their own codex, I simply think it is a poor choice to release it before major standalone army codexes.

      • Erik Giersdorf

        Because all the bolt guns, power armor, and rhinos the daemons run around in, right.

        • LankTank

          Well daemon shells, hellforged vehicles and corrupted armour? But you never know, maybe they will go all aos and slowly put everything into power armour

  • Jack

    If they dont release Lion, this game can eat a big bag of d

    • Marcus Clark

      I wouldn’t hold your breath, I doubt we will get to see the Lion until all the codex’s are first released, then GW will proceed with the story.

      • Jack

        So they bring out the dark angels codex, then wait a year and then bring out another codex with Lion in it? Yeah will probably happen 🙁

        • Maitre Lord Ironfist

          i do not feel, that the Lion comes back. My bet is, if a loyal Primarch comes at all, Rogald Dorn – before Lion i would also bet on Russ

          • BT

            I agree, but the Lion is actually still around… he is just pouting. I gave up on DA a long time ago, when they went from Black armor to Green.

        • Apocryphus

          No, they release the Lion with a data sheet in the box, that’s how GW said they were handling new models. Just because a codex doesn’t get new releases doesn’t mean they won’t get new models later.

    • Chet Atkinson

      d?

      • BaronSnakPak

        Donuts. Deliciously delectable donuts.

  • Nathaniel David Nash

    hopefully when they release the wolves we will see a 40k Russ primarch too.

  • Rainthezangoose

    Feel like this is an insult.

    • Vicent Martín Bonet

      Grow some skin then XD.

      Those codexii aren’t getting anything new aside from tactics, I personally want power armor done and the rest of armies getting new shinies.

    • Piotr

      You’d feel different if you played Dark Angels or Blood Angels.

      • Rainthezangoose

        You know as well as I do I say this because we already have two MEQ codex’s. Blood angels and Dark angels could use the standard book and still play strong. However stuff like Tau, Orks, DE or Necrons not so much.

        • LankTank

          Meq factions make up about half of the range though if you bring in all marune subfactions and csm factions.
          9 codexes out of what… 20 or so?
          10 if you include sisters

      • Chet Atkinson

        I play both but won’t pick up the new codexes. Will wait for some new minis to come out and stick with the Index books for time being.

  • Christie Bryden

    probably wont get no kits for those ones as they are very complete ranges.

  • Silverbeast

    And Sisters.

    • Maitre Lord Ironfist

      we will here that they come mid next year, maybe 2019 – But in resin from Forgeworld

    • Chet Atkinson

      and Squats

  • Heinz Fiction

    Yeah, the 3rd and 4th Space Marine™ Codex before Orks are even announced. Thats how you keep players from picking up filthy xenos armies…

  • Chet Atkinson

    The Dark Angles and Blood Angels arcs haven’t really changed over the last 200 years. Lot of promise pre 8th ed but nothing serious once 8th edition actually hit

    • Admiral Raptor

      It’ll be interesting to see what they’ve been doing all this time. I hope it’s something juicy and heretical for the Dark Angels!

      • BT

        Now that the Fallen are an actual part of the Chaos Marine Codex, it would be nice to see if GW acknowledges it in the DA codex on how the other chapters might be treating them.

  • Admiral Raptor

    It’s hard to believe that people in this comment section are still upset / surprised that Space Marines get preferential treatment. I know you guys aren’t all new here. It’s been this way for thirty years. Space Marines are the stars of the show. The main characters. The reason 40k exists at all. Now that the Primarchs are coming back and the story line is focusing on them I hope you’re not holding your breathe for many new Xenos minis any time soon.

    (I am not saying that this is a good thing, only that it is very clear that Space Marines / Chaos Space Marines are going to be dominating most of the release windows for the foreseeable future)

    • Chet Atkinson

      Agree wholeheartedly Admiral. I’m getting a vibe that they are strengthening the Marine vs Marine in 40 k like they have in 30k

      • BT

        If that were true, a new Abbadon fig would be nice. His current fig is around 18 years old.

        • Mr.Gold

          21…

          • LankTank

            Thats around 18 =) no difference.

  • Chet Atkinson

    Would love to see a snaky big Slaaneshi daemon Fulgrim model. Enough of all these big showstopper models with wings 😉 Wings wings wings. Big snake please 🙂

    • BT

      Demon Fulgrim has wings.

      • frank

        yes but he is also a big snake.;D

      • LankTank

        Also Angron lol

    • dante13

      Anything Slaanesh and Emperors Children would be much bought by me…

  • Kociamber

    So any estimates about the dates? DA need some love!

    • I_am_Alpharius

      Nope. Yet the current pace has been a codex’s roughly every two weeks. So we maybe looking at release dates of 25th November (pre-orders 18th) and 9nd December (pre-orders 2nd). Equally both books could be released on the same weekend like the CSM and GK were – in which case I would hazard the 9th December. Typically for the last two weeks before Christmas Day there is a huge slowdown in releases with very little coming out on the preceding weekends (16th and 23rd December) – usually things like Black Library books.

  • Ryan Miller

    I just want orks before adepticon! And an iron hands named character on the table… IH need their own codex, really…

  • piglette

    Don’t worry guys, Sisters WILL be getting a full book along with a plastic revamp by the end of 2010, word is they had some hang ups with the robes and cloth, but it’s all settled now.

  • FCBullsht

    Good to hear… BA probably need a “fixed” codex more than anybody else as the index list is hardly playable at all with 90% of the stuff being ridiculously overpriced

  • dante13

    Please update the Fallen Armies in the Dark angels Codex, more Cypher, more choices of troops and vehicles and the Lion… C’mon the blacker Dark Angels are just as popular as the green versions but you just don’t give us enough to play with…

  • memitchell

    Hmm..waited over a quarter of a Century for the FIRST and ONLY Genestealer Codex (which was obsolete in less than than year). And, now living with a pretty lame Index crippled by it’s Ambush rule. And, FAQ’s which keep weakening an already weak army. For Four-Armed Father’s sake, GSC+AM is not as good as AM. I can’t wait to see GSC+Tyranids get nerfed.

    OK, I don’t care, but I’m trying to fine whine like everyone else here.
    I’m sure I can endure all the whining about how neglected are your factions and sub-factions. Why some of them haven’t seen an update since 15 years AFTER the GSC did not get updated 25 years ago. But, the Irony Meter keeps pegging.

    • Bootneck

      Tbh the 7th ed GSC codex came at a time when the game was so broken with formations and this that and the other.

      It was one of the top factions at the end of 7th, and probably down to those very same rules your crying about now which have been toned down. Being able to deploy up to 3″ away was just way to powerful.

      I think most armies would love to have an option now to deploy any unit potentially 9″ away with a free move at the end.

      Its only really a roll of 1 which is bad, the rest are still very good.

      The other thing which is probably one of the biggest nerfs to GSC is 8th edition itself – as you’d now have to half a minimum of half your army deployed on the table.

      I’m afraid that is the fate of many codex’s perhaps brilliant but written for the wrong edition where the rules don’t work or mean the same.

      • memitchell

        NOT crying. I’m laughing at you folks. Yup, the GSC did have a few months of top tier, thanks to it’s random, but damn good Ambush table. But, that got nerfed into a random, but damn bad Ambush table.
        Nerfed so much it’s the worst Deep Strike/reserve rule in the game. I find that ironic. Even more so since GSC units pay a tax for the ability to use a bad Ambush rule. Making Tyranids Genestealers cheaper than GSC genestealers. Ambush is easily countered, anyway. GSC also lost the ability to remove units and return them at full strength (somebody else got that recently). And, GSC Astra Militarum allies lost regimental traits in the latest FAQ. It’s no big deal. And, who knows, when or if GSC gets a codex, maybe they’ll iron out the kinks. But, so far, it’s been a ironic.

        • Bootneck

          They have said all factions will get proper codex’s. At the rate they are churning them out it won’t be that long.

          You say its the worst DS rule but not all units have DS, so really either way you look at it, GSC still better off in that respect.

          I’d imagine the factions with the most work will come last in the list and will likely include new kits. I don’t think GSC will have long to wait.

  • L0RDZ3R0

    Hope the Tau come out soon. My crisis suits and broadsides are languishing in their case because they’re almost unusable now.

  • Dalinair

    Please be good BA please be good BA please be good BA

    • memitchell

      Be careful what you wish for. The last time they were good, they paid for it with years of mediocrity.

  • Pat H

    Looks like Orks are next year. It gives me hope for new models at least. And if the rumors of Chapter Approved having vehicle construction rules are true we could see a return of the looted wagon.