40K: Eldar vs Tyranids – Who’s Next

One of these two books is up next – who do you think deserves it more? Eldar or Tyranids!

We know the day is coming when Games Workshop will announce which Codex will be next. They confirmed back in August that the next 3 codexes after Adeptus Mechanicus will be Eldar, Tyranids and Astra Militarum. Well this weekend Astra Militarum hits store shelves. That means the Eldar and the Tyranids are next – so it’s time to place your bets: Who’s up next?

We have some ideas on how they are going to implement the codexes. We’re guessing the Eldar will have “Sub-faction” rules based on the different Craftworlds and the Tyranids will be based on the different Hivefleets. We’re also pretty sure each codex will have all of the stuff we’ve seen in the pervious ones:

But now our burning question is simply how will they choose?

Will the release be Alphabetical?

If that’s the case, Eldar are next by more than a few letters. And it kind of fits. They announced Astra Militarum, Eldar, and Tyranids. That seems reasonable…

Will it be the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly?

Good, being a relative term in the Grim-Dark, typically means Imperial. Bad could just mean non-Imperial so it could be either Xenos or Tyranid. And Ugly…well okay, that’s clearly Eldar, AMIRITE?!

The Four-Armed Emperor is soooo Pretty…

Will It Be Two and Two?

Looking back, we had the Space Marines book. Then we had a double release of Grey Knights and Chaos. Then it was Death Guard. After Death Guard was Ad Mech. Now we’re getting Astra Militarum. If you break those into pairs it really fits:

  • Space Marines / Grey Knights
  • Chaos / Death Guard
  • Ad Mech / Astra Militarum

So does that mean it’s going to be Eldar and then Tyranids or Tyranids and then Eldar? We don’t know! But it’s going to be Xenos/Xenos – the pattern still holds.

It’s technically correct. The best kind of correct…

Order Of Importance?

I think this one is absolutely true. The problem is who is determining their importance. If you ask any real Eldar player they will tell you they are the most important book, ever. After-all, “their arrogance is matched only by their firepower.” But in my professional, TOTALLY non-baised opinion the Tyranids are better in everyway with the coolest miniatures and way more fun to play more important. I say this as a person who owns both armies – The Tyranids are a galactic threat that is coming to eat EVERYONE. The Eldar are just a dying race of pointy-eared jerks whose souls taste like skittles to one of the Chaos Gods. Really – there is no comparison. Totally, not biased at all here.

I like Skittles, too!

Most “Broken” Codex Last?

Again – This is also totally true. It just depends on your definition of “broken” and the context of the game. If you mean broken as in “hey that step is broken, we need to repair that” then I would argue that the Tyranids probably need to quit getting stepped on and could use some repair. If you’re talking about broken in the “OMG PLZ NERF” sense of the word – then I would have to say that was referring to Eldar (again, TOTALLY not biased 100% professional opinion here).

 

So BoLS Readers – who do you think is next and what critera will GW use to determine who’s on deck?

 

Whatever the case I’m guaranteeing that Xenos are next.

  • Talos2

    Surely the real question is who’s first out of sisters or squats?

    • Krizzab

      or Zoats

    • adamharry

      Sisters only come out for the END of an edition. They are the true heralds of the end times. If we get a Sisters of Battle army, that means 9th edition is, like, 6 weeks away – tops.

      • DoctorBored

        Just in time for all of their special rules to be nerfed, their best units turned into their worst, and once again, no new models.

        Here’s hoping it just doesn’t happen that way this time around.

        • Frostasche

          Well if we make this joke so long that even GW hears it, maybe things will change.

          At the end of august even on BoLS there was an articel, joking about the codexes. Something like that obviously the next codexes will be with Space Marines, as only more Space Marines are a good addition to only Space Marines. And well at the start of september GW announced the ad mech codex, and later followed up with AM, Craftworld and Tyrannid.

          So maybe this time around they are actually listening to such things.

    • swiftscythe

      “we want Sisters of Battle”
      *Gets Genestealer cults and Deathwatch instead”

      • memitchell

        Aww…

  • DoctorBored

    It’s a coin toss, but I see your point on the pairing. GK/SM, CSM/DG, AM/AM, and now Eldar and Nids… Makes me wonder what sorts of pairings they’ll have in the future and if there’s a particular science for this that they’re going for.

    Either way, I look forward to Tyranids and Eldar coming back to the fore. Astra Militarum is on everyone’s mind, and people thought AdMech were bad before them. There’s not enough data out there to determine if codex creep is happening, but it feels like it.

    To be honest, I hope that Tyranids are first. They don’t have a whole lot of models that need updating, so it would make sense or them to get taken care of quickly while GW focuses on releasing Shadespire and Necromunda. Meanwhile, give Eldar some love! They’ve got tons of old models that are in desperate need of an update!

    • Defenestratus

      I’m still praying that the rumor mill post for a couple weeks back is a plastic fire dragon exarch helm.

      • DoctorBored

        Man I don’t even play Eldar but I really want them to get new Warp Spiders and Howling Banshees.

    • swiftscythe

      yes Tyranids need it more and it needs to be better than anything Robin “ImpGuardRulez” Cruddface wrote. All the Dinosaur Lizzard Insect models are in plastic except the pyro-biovores. Eldar before their codex comes out should get new plastic anything most of the aspect warriors are still finecrap resin.

      • That sounds pretty salty, all expletives considered.

        • Jabberwokk

          All hive fleets know then name “Cruddace” and roar in fury and lament.

  • I_am_Alpharius

    Either way people will complain and moan that it wasn’t the other. And all the players armies who are waiting will moan and some will bring up Sisters of…..oh someone has…in the first post…damn…ruined this bit of sarcasm….

    Personally, I hazard it will one codex one week and the other the following week – just considering the other release due in October. Also I’d imagine the final 2 before Xmas will also be over separate weeks in November i.e. we are probably looking a codex released every two weeks.

    • DoctorBored

      If any Tyranid or Eldar players moan and groan, they only have to wait for another couple weeks and they’ll get theirs too.

      The moaning of Sisters of Battle players will never be silenced.

      • Wolfman UK

        I don’t know people why are moaning sisters are awesome this edition!

    • Me

      I play Eldar (and have since second edition), and I don’t mind waiting, or not. I am good either way. If I had to lean one way or the other, it would be toward waiting. I want them to get it right, so people can stop moaning (not that they will anyway). You would think that the Eldar have not lost a match since the beginning of sixth the way people carry on. I’ve lost plenty.

  • Defenestratus

    FFS can we get over the Eldar hate already?!

    • Stephen Henry IV

      Why, it’s fun?

    • lorieth

      Fun fact: they’re actually hating the army next to the Eldar, hee hee. Don’t you love holofields?

      • majbjörn

        Oh yes! Please bring “loved” Holo-fields back.

        Something like “Successful to wound rolls on a model equiped with Holo-fields must be re-rolled.”

        I mean, Holo-Fields should be loved, its almost tradition right?

        Huehuehue….

        😀

  • mark

    I have a feeling Eldar will be the 28th. I think as a faction it has a greater influence and following than Tyranids. Space Marines obviously are number one. Chaos being their immediate opposite takes the second spot (Grey Knights was just a token codex really). Admech was a surprising one, but Guard definitely come in a high place. But if you’re going to lead off with a Xenos race, Eldar pretty much take the cake. I also love that people hate Eldar…..good, you should, they don’t asked to be liked and don’t care if all of humanity is killed off, same with those that play them 🙂

  • Andrew O’Brien

    Do you think the Eldar codex would be an Aeldari codex or will they break it into factions?

    • I don’t see them making away with Craftworld Eldar and Dark Eldar. I can see an Ynnari Codex up top, and Harlequins are anybody’s guess, but the two main Eldar books are big enough on their own, and if they didn’t merge Blood Angels and Dark Angels into the Space Marine one, then I don’t see them just combining Craftworld and Dark Eldar either. Their model lines are pretty distinct, they’d have to rebox them more likely than not, and it’d make for a way too lengthy book.

    • Frostasche

      GW explicitly said Craftworld Codex. The ambiguity is just in this article.

    • zeno666

      Just Eldar, GW can make more money if the Ynnari-players need to buy three seperate books (Eldar, Drew Carey and Ynnari/Harlequins) 😉

  • Frostasche

    Sorry to take the fun out of it, but i guess, the release schedule is based on production and marketing aspects. Deathguard as a new faction was released at that time to not collide with Shadespire and Necromunda. Now they fill the gaps with codexes, that not urgently need new toys, but have still enough fans and also stop the comments about them only releasing different flavored Spacemarines.

    Then maybe some other factors like releasing AM before Necromunda, so that they can present some nice conversion for guardsmen with Necromunda gang bits in a white dwarf later, to give another reason to buy Necromunda.

  • Chris

    *Continues to pray for Sisters in high gothic*

  • Jabberwokk

    Completely biased opinion here.

    It better be Nids.

    Unless Cruddace was not locked in a box and sent to Cadia to die with it in which case it can wait. forever even.

    • Matt Klingenberg

      So, I have never commented on this site before, but I have been reading it for years. But after reading your comment I needed to log in just to say; I found your comment hilarious.

      Thanks for the laugh, I needed it.

      • Jabberwokk

        I aim to please good sir.

  • Heinz Fiction

    I play both so it’s a win-win-situation for me

  • Red_Five_Standing_By

    Doesn’t matter which is first. They are not going to get any new kits.

  • Alun Bridges

    Well I suppose I wouldn’t mind waiting for the Eldar codex as long as they do a good job, I would prefer a solid codex that promotes good list building over spam OP unit x ( but don’t we all ). At the moment Craftworld Eldar out of the entire range only have what I would consider 5 ‘competitive’ units Wave Serpents, Wraithguard, Dark Reapers, Crimson Hunter and the Hemlock Wraithfighter. Most other units are either overpriced or sub-par ( or both ).

    • majbjörn

      Agree, id add Farseer to the list tho.

      But apart from better internal balance I hope they make Battle Focus good enough so that it can compete with Strength from Death.

      • Alun Bridges

        I’m on the fence about Farseers, yes there possibly more useful this edition, and hopefully we’ll have some more powers to throw around …but in the days of costing the same as 3 Primaris Psykers I feel there value somewhat lessened and also Jetseer is overpriced somewhat.

  • majbjörn

    Hope its Eldar! And hope for some new models with the codex!

    Warp Spiders?
    Shining Spears?
    Warp Spider Phoenix Lord?
    Shining Spear Phoenix Lord?
    Crimson Hunter Phoenix Lord?
    😀

  • Mystical

    I think Tyranids will be next because Necrons may be after Aeldari because they are arch enemies.

    • Nightwalker

      They already said Necrons are getting stuff in Chapter Approved, so I imagine they won’t be releasing a codex for them before then.

      My money is on one of the Space Marine chapters and Orks

  • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

    My money’s on ‘Nids, because Eldar have too much Fincast for them not to redo the line. Necrons and T’au will likely also get Codexes before Asuryani because their lines are mostly up to date.

    • Heinz Fiction

      (Craftworld) Eldar and Nids are next. The only question is which of them first.

      • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

        I gave my opinion, which is that ‘Nids will be first because there’s nothing much at all to add or redo for the model line, which can’t be said for Eldar. If they follow the pattern they’ve established, we’ll get 2 no-model Codex releases, then a major model change.

  • Laszlo

    just hoping that Tyranids gets a LoW
    thats the only thing modelwise that the tyranids needs.
    while eldar needs like ….. everything in new plastic

    so tyranids first with one new BIG release and save the christmas shopping for a lot of eldar minis

  • 40KstillRulesTheTT

    F… the Eldar ! They have enjoyed a nice place under the sun for much too long ! Time for nyds to shine ! Eat the Imperium !

  • Dulahan

    My prediction, Tyranids first. Why? The utterly flawless science of I Play Eldar, thus ‘nids will be first.

    Part of me even hopes it’s true, I’ll have more time for my wallet to recover from other stuff. 😉