40K: Secrets of the Armiger Warglaive

We’ve been going over the Armiger Warglaive with a fine-toothed comb – here’s what we’ve found.

The Armiger Warglaive was first announced at LVO at the GW seminar. We got a nice 360 of the model… and the following info:

via GW

“Smaller than their cousins and crewed by aspiring nobles, low-born commoners with a knack for war, or even the bastard children of Barons and High Kings, Armigers hunt and fight at the flanks of their larger kin. Knight Armigers will open up new tactical possibilities for Imperial Knights players, like a medieval lord hunting with his hounds, benefiting from a wider range of army builds.”

Fast forward a month to this week and we get pics of the new Forgebane boxed set doing the rounds at the tradeshow circuit.  More importantly we got to see detailed shots of the Armiger kit for the first time:

Sizing It Up

With these pics of Ad Mech infantry very close to the kit both in front and behind it, we can estimate its exact size.  We did a bit of math and came up with this:

That feels about right and lines up with the picture up there – clocking in at roughly 4.5 – 4.75 inches tall.

We also got to see the sprues giving us our first look at the model kit itself:

You can see the pic shows both of the Armigers in the boxed set on display. Each model kit has 4 sprues – based heavily on the Imperial Knight:

A: Upper Chassis structure

B: Legs

C: Top carapace and vents

D: Weapon arms

The sprues aren’t enormous like the Imperial Knight and you can compare them to the size of the instructions underneach for yet more scale estimates.

A Release Estimate

Now the Armiger is coming in the boxed set for sure. But when the boxed set is coming is the real question. Consider these issues:

  • GW has already announced the next 3 codexs are: Tau, Drukhari, & Necrons (in some order)
  • The Armiger can’t be included in Codex Adeptus Mechanicus as it’s already out.
  • The logical place for it to appear is Codex Imperial Knights.

Based on that, I estimate it is at least 2-4 codex releases away.  GW usually won’t release models too far in advance of their accompanying codexes. If Necrons are right after Tau, the box could be released to coincide with that (Necrons are the other half of the set), and let players wait a few months with the “instructions rules” until Codex Imperial Knights comes out.

Alternatively they may just wait till Imperial Knights hits, which must be after the formally announced next 3 races.

We have seen GW show off sets at trade shows way ahead of release dates. Recall the Battle for Vedros boxed set that was spotted at a toy fair over 6 months before it’s release.

On the other hand – the Armiger WAS shown at LVO, so it’s can’t be too, too far off either.

~Hmm, quite a little mystery we have… 

  • John John Slade

    Well if i’m not mistake, this is warhound successor. Somewhat… i think Space Wolves gonna modify these new knight for themselve.

    • Andy Wise

      Warhounds are Titans mate – larger by a good margin than the largest Knight – this is smaller.

      Like your thinking around the Spacewolves thing. Maybe get a couple of them on leashes being held by a ‘proper’ knight?

      • Dexter Kingsford

        In terms of outriders, scouts, flanking skirmishing forces, etc. then yes, these are to the Knightly Houses what the Warhounds are to the Titan Legions.

    • briandavion

      it is to a warhound as a Knight is to a reiver

  • Crevab

    So when are we gonna get the version of these that has options

    • Carey_Mahoney

      Would be interesting to see an option for two dakka arms instead of that chainsword.

    • I’m sure Forge World will step in with all kinds of upgrade kits.

  • Agent OfBolas

    My CSM body is ready for such beauties! 😛

  • Devil_Eyez

    I just hope theirs a version designed more for anti infantry horde out there

    • Luca Lacchini

      Uhm, yes, me too. Knights can deal with armour quite good already by themselves.
      Scouting and anti-flank/horde is a role not yet covered properly.

      • Graham Bartram

        Not by the knights themselves but Secutarii can help… ..let me just find those rules.
        Ah, slight flaw in that plan. :/

        • lorentz hauser

          I want my 300 style last stand with a bunch of secutarii

  • Simon Chatterley

    The only secret is what the secret this was secretly trying to be secret about.

    Bit of a none article this?

  • MarcoT

    Ugly AF to me, but i’m happy for those that like it.

    • OctopusVolcano

      I feel some conversion work coming on. It looks good from the side…from the front, not so much.

    • SacTownBrian

      I don’t like the calf bottles. I can’t even imagine what they might represent or how they wouldn’t get accidentally knocked off while moving. Other than that I like the design as a cross between Dragoons and Knights.

      • Boondox

        Most of the Admech stuff have odd pieces that make no sense that I remove and keep in my bitz box. I’m just trying to find the obligatory 3 tabs or 3 vents that GW seems to love putting on their models.

      • georgelabour

        I believe earlier fluff for the ironstriders mentioned things like that as being part of the stabilization systems.

  • frank

    they look a bit like the slaanesh knights from epic. be cool to see a slaanesh subjugation war-band lead by a standard chaos knight.

  • Talos2

    I think I hate that thing as much as I hate the castellans. Truely hideous model imo. Looks like it was designed by privateer press

  • Tshiva keln

    “we can estimate its exact size” um, ok…

  • SacTownBrian

    I see two different head options. Can anyone make out different weapons load outs?

  • EnTyme

    The weapons and shoulders being on a separate sprue gives me hope for additional weapon options and non-AdMech shoulders in the future.

    • Bakvrad

      Thanks for pointing that out. Haven’t noticed the coq-Motive on the shoulders (and the legs) before!
      But should be done with a clean cut I guess…

  • zeno666

    I get the feeling its the same person that did the dreadknight model that did this one as well.
    Equally ugly and bad design.

    • frank

      that is funny i was just thinking that it would make a nice conversion platform for a decent dreadknight.

      • zeno666

        If you like the aesthetics go for it 🙂

  • marxlives

    I really like the warjack feel of the models. This is going to be a great set and I can’t wait for it to come out.

    • Muninwing

      interesting observation.

      if you weren’t sure that 40k was trying desperately to mimic Warmachine instead of improve their own product…

      • frank

        yea i’m sure that’s what they are doing here. not just totally mixing the dreadnoughts legs with a mech-walker mini. Not saying gw doesn’t rip stuff off but they don’t typically have to rip off the rubbish that privateer press puts out lol.

  • Dirheim

    As somebody who already has necrons and some knights, and for a time wanted to go Mechanicus, this is a perfect starter set

  • Greg Holden

    Would make a nice replacement for the Penitent Engine. Putting one together in plastic, rather than metal, wouldn’t take an successful Act of Faith roll to complete.

    • Muninwing

      this is the best response i’ve seen to the new model.

    • frank

      would also be cool as a conversion basis for a dreadknight for grey knights.

  • AnomanderRake

    Here’s hoping they don’t forget to allow these as Questor Mechanicus the way they did with all the FW Knights.