Bite the Bullet: Eldar NEED New Eldar Aspect Warriors

The Eldar army has always been popular – but it’s 2017 and the range is tied to a boat-anchor of ancient minis that need to go.

Believe me – I LOVE the Eldar.  They were my first true 40K love and I still send them out on the tabletop to this day.  I’ve got a giant army ranging from the original Rogue Trader “Eldar Pirates” all the way to Wraithknights.  It’s a mixed bag, but it gets the job done.

But as I was marveling at the amazing skill and technology that makes the 2017 Death Guard range possible – it’s getting hard to ignore the Eldar infinity-elephant in the room – the Aspect Warriors are WAY WAY past their prime and are weighing the entire range down.

I’m going to date the existing range by the first Eldar codex they appeared in and figure out how old they are.

 

Codex Eldar -2nd Edition (1994)

Codex Eldar – 3rd Edition (1999)

Codex Eldar – 4th Edition (2006)

The “Recent Aspects”

A bunch of the aspects got new metal minis alongside the 4th Edition codex – replacing their original incarnations going back to Rogue Trader.

 

Dire Avengers – 2006

The new guys. These plastic minis are great and are the brightspot in the line. DAs are the most common aspect so it made sense for them to get the modern plastic treatment first.  The rest of these got metal – now resin minis.

Fire Dragons – 2006

Swooping Hawks – 2006

Howling Banshees – 2006

Striking Scorpions – 2006

Dark Reapers – 2006

Shining Spears – 2006

The Old Guard

These are the minis who can legally drink. These are over 23 years old now and it shows.

Warp Spiders – 1994

Phoenix Lords – 1994

Avatar of Khaine – 1994

Solutions?

A lot of solutions are possible – from a new boxed kit for every aspect to various combo boxes.  Some of the aspects are somewhat similar and may be able to be redone with common kits and head-equipment swaps.  For example:

Dire Avengers – Done

Scorpions – Dragons (heavy segmented armor)

Warp Spiders – Dark Reapers – (chunky armor – large bulky weapons)

Banshees – Swooping Hawks – (light armor, dynamic in-motion posing)

Shining Spears (upgrade sprue for Guardian Skyrunners)

Some of these might be harder than others – but it’s possible and the Eldar really need it.  Because let’s be honest… When I can shell out my hard earned money for minis that look like this:

I really shouldn’t be asked to pay a lot for these:

And these have a really good paintjob to help hide their age.

 

~How would you replace the Eldar Aspects?

 

  • James Regan

    yeah, that and ork boyz & warbuggies, as i’ve been playing this game for a good 16 years, and the old hand me down boyz my uncle gave me when i started playing (complete with a gorkamorka harpoon wartrack) are the same kit as the ones i can buy in the shop now…

    • dave long island

      Ya dats rite.

    • I_am_Alpharius

      Erm…the current Ork Boyz kit are relatively new, which came out in 2008. Sure the general design between them and previous kit is not massive, but the are new-ish. So those hand-me-down aren’t the same kit ;P

      I suspect Warbuggies (and Trakks) will be quietly dropped when the full Ork Codex is published; ala Rough Riders.

      • ZeeLobby

        I really like the old ork kit. It had the pose-ability that is sadly missing from recent releases. I loved going through and making each orks gear unique.

      • Pat H

        I hope not. They’re actually not bad now and I had a bunch of the teeny third edition trukks I was going to convert up. I’m very curious what they’re going to do for Snakebites. Snakebites use squigoths a lot and I can’t see how they can do Snakebites without squigoths.

        • Drew_Da_Destroya

          I’d love for Boarboyz to come back, but in reality, they’ll just be a set of special abilities that get slapped on the Infantry units, and that’s it.

      • LankTank

        Nah buggy is a plastic kit and also they have a much larger footprint in armies than rough riders. I still pray for a gorka morka box set =) that and world peace right?

  • Defenestratus

    Yeah… even though I have 30 of every aspect model (and more of some) – I’m ready for new models.

    Only thing I’ll be sad about is if they redo shining spears because I just sunk a ton of money on putting shining spear bits on the new skyrunner models and they look amazing.

    • ZeeLobby

      I honestly don’t think you’ll have to worry. I imagine GW might release new aspect warriors before redoing any of the old ones.

      • Or no aspects at all and instead Ynnead-Cultists…

    • TenDM

      I don’t think you can go wrong with converted Skyrunners. The riders are a bit dated if you kept the originals, but as long as they’re on the new jetbikes they’ll look great.

  • Chris Hateley

    The current aspect warriors are fine. It would’ve been nice if Warp Spiders got a redesign some years back when all the other aspects did, but like a lot of Jes Goodwin’s models, they’ve withstood the test of time pretty well.

    What DOES need updating are the Phoenix Lords and the godawful Avatar. I’m 35. I got into the hobby when I was 12 and those minis were in stores back then. After all this time the dust must be the only thing holding the moulds together.

    Like many elder collectors I bought the Avatar from the dark elf Cauldron of Blood and cut all the spiky bits off because I just couldn’t bring myself to include the official mini in my army.

    • Adam Richard Corrigan

      I have one of each including the gorgeous FW one but the stats don’t do it justice.

      • Chris Hateley

        I can take or leave the FW one. It’s a good model but it doesn’t really leap out at me. I probably would’ve bought one before now just for the sake of having an Avatar in my army, but the price always put me off. That said; given that the average cost of a big daemon from GW is now £80, FW’s price doesn’t seem all that bad.

        How does it measure up scale-wise compared to the one from the cauldron of blood? Bigger or about the same size?

        • Adam Richard Corrigan

          I’s about 4cm taller and slightly thicker.

  • euansmith

    I still really like the Warp Spider and Fire Dragon minis; however plastic versions would be really cool.

    • Ben_S

      Yeah, I was going to say that they could do with plastic boxes, because plastic. But there are plenty of newer plastic kits that don’t look as good as these older ones.

  • Talos2

    Phoenix lords should be pretty high on gw update list

  • Tim

    I mean I don’t disagree that some plastic aspect warriors need to show up. Otoh I don’t know if those are worse than current Catachan troop box, Lack of great coat guard models, lack of rough riders, or lack of transports/ HQ in the admech list. That said we aren’t getting any of that stuff and I can’t think of a tyranid need that’s more pressing so maybe we’ll see em.

    • Chris Hateley

      Totally agree on the plastic Catachans. I recently decided to collect a small Catachan force and ended up buying the old metal minis because the plastic ones are just terrible.

      There are some good independent companies doing conversion parts though. Mad Robot does heads for (most of) the guys from Predator and the likenesses are amazing considering the scale. That was one of the things that prompted me to collect as I’m a huge Predator fan.

  • MightyOrang

    First, asking people to buy Failcast at top prices is a bridge too far. Second, the 3rd party offerings out there make it clear that there’s a lot of goodness to be had with the older aspects.

    But first, how about some rules to really make people want to play them again? I’m. It a power gamer by any stretch, but why take Aspects when you could take Wraiths? http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/972fc1955328e2f9140ef37669e433c495aff822e74bd4416413609ea6751934.jpg

  • I_am_Alpharius

    It is certainly a safe assumption that all the models you’ve mention will be, at some point, made in plastic ones. I actually don’t think they’ll do dual kits for the Aspect Warriors. Maybe in the past they would have, but now, especially looking at the DG range I don’t think they will.

    Although I think Eldar players will be waiting for all these kits. There is nothing wrong with look of the Aspect Warriors, they are nice sculpts and hold up. Sure the Phoenix Lords and Khain are a little off scale, but they are all pretty nice too (a testament to Jes Goodwins skill.)

    Given a GW FB posting on Sunday, I’m betting, out of the final two codexs, the Eldar are come before the Tyranids.

    • ZeeLobby

      I think we’ll see some. I’m not sure we’ll see all, especially at the same time. If Death Guard are any indicator of the new direction of factions (and new model releases), I wouldn’t be shocked if we got more Ynnari type releases, focusing on new sub-factions, and sub-sects rather than entire old armies. I imagine these to have several units, and about 5/6 $25+ character models, taking some of the other units from their core codex.

      I also agree that dual kits is highly unlikely. They’ll most likely all be uni-pose and splattered with their relevant aspect dongles :D. That said, a lot of players already have 20+ of each, so they might not redo them at all. GW seems to prefer selling new units/characters then rehashing old units lately.

    • Heinz Fiction

      The 2006 sculpts look ok but failcast is a no go. They need plastics and they need them fast.

      • I_am_Alpharius

        I’m not saying they don’t need plastics, just that I don’t believe it will be anytime soon i.e. in the next 12 months

      • ZeeLobby

        Heck, give us back metal, lol.

    • luke-vdv

      I usually disagree with you, but this time I love you.

  • Krizzab

    Shadow Spectres

  • TheSaltyMountainMan

    Although I do really want plastic aspect warriors, I prefer the look of those Warp Spiders to those Deathshroud, they’re clean, simple, and hand sculpted.

  • pokemastercube .

    well if i wanted a avitar i would be ordering the FW one with spear

    • majbjörn

      The ones from FW are really cool but too big imo : /

  • majbjörn

    One would think that giving the jetbiker aspect a new model when the jetbike got a new model would be something
    But nah.

    • Heinz Fiction

      would have been to obvious 😉

  • irvinil

    AND THE WARLOCKS!!

    do not forget the flat, small and outdated warlocks !!!

    hopefull third party helped during these sad days of metal or resin ugly miniatures from the 80’s… http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebb8d79e97352d39e4758ec1c15bae9dba0723bcf95019c318ff8df293ef1ea8.jpg

  • BigGrim

    No thank you to combo kits. I believe Jes Goodwin himself hates the idea of it as it dilutes their individual identities.

    • And rightfully so imo.

    • Heinz Fiction

      In some cases it works well. Vehicles bases on the same chassis for example. Plus it’s a way to expand army list without needing more and more shelf space in stores.

      • They will cut the ranges soon… when Minimarines get stopped in production.

  • Whenever someone comes up with suggesting the same armour for Scorpions and Reapers or Spiders and Reapers, a little bit inside me is dying. They are so much different, I really would not like to see them merged into the same armour.

  • Btw, I’d buy those old spiders over the new Death Guard any day. I think they aged extremely well. They could be more dynamic, that’s for sure. But there are far worse aged minis out there.

    • Heinz Fiction

      Great minis for their time, very 2-dimensional though. They look out of place next to modern eldar kits.

      • TenDM

        Yeah, that’s my main problem with the Aspect Warriors. They’re nice models but they don’t quite look right. Although if we’re making a list the Lords are more desperate for an update.

  • piglette

    It’s more likely they’ll keep milking these sculpts and then come out with more giant robots.

  • luke-vdv

    I love the Warp Spider design. Much better than those Death Guard. In fact, all the “outdated” minis you mention I think look great. Sometimes I feel people just want new minis for the sake of it.

  • petrow84
  • Marco Marantz

    No they dont.

  • Get the same moulds. Make them in plastic. Done.