GW: Gone Missing – Adeptus Titanticus

Where in the world has Adeptus Titanicus gone?

Titans – the massive Machines of War constructed by the humanoid races of the 41st Millennium to bring death and destruction to their foes. Their struggles was epic and their impact has been felt all over the tabletop. The Rumormill was heating up early this year about the return of the classic game from Games Workshop. But now we’re in the last quarter of the year and Adeptus Titanicus has gone dark…

Back in January we got a drip of information about the game.

via J Martin (Spikeybits)

The book is done, the minis are done. Titanicus is going to print next week and will be out this year.
They are going to do a big release with boxed game plus extras. They pushed the schedule back a bit to flesh it out more.
They have learned from BB that people are lapping Specialist Games up, so are going to get more budget for it.

We also have some more info coming from Open Day regulars Battle Bunnies:

via Battle Bunnies

Adeptus Titanicus is delayed (it was originally planned to be released around february). Not being rushed out. Might be out before the end of the year.
There will be complete plastic buildings (which you can destroy yourself, by cutting etc).
Thanks to Blood Bowl, and the delay there is a possibility of plastic Titans which go on sale at the same time as the black book / resin ones.
The book art for ‘Titan’s Death’ is being worked on right now.

Those seemed to line up with other rumors all the way back in May of 2016:

via Recalcitrant Daze (May 2016)

However talking to Andy Hoare, Mark Bedford and Chris Drew I can mention the following:

The game is set during the Horus Heresy in the spirit of the original Adeptus Titanicus.
It will begin with just Titans.
The scale will be 8mm – They decided on this scale after 3D printing a Marine, Dread, Leman Russ, Warlord and a Mastodon in three different scales. 8mm was deemed the best as you could see the details to the point of telling different armour marks apart but didn’t make the Titans too big.
8mm will make a Warlord around 6″ tall (that’s what it looked like why Andy Hoare put his hands apart, don’t blame me if the final model is smaller or larger…).
The models will be produced in resin by Forge World.
Typical force may be in the region of two Warlords, two Reavers and two-three Warhounds.
More Titan variants are possible.
Down the road infantry and tanks are to be introduced.
Other forces are also possible, this includes Xenos which can be introduced in a themed expansion, e.g. Adeptus Titanicus: Armageddon to bring in the Orks.
Currently the Titans are being 3D modelled by Chris Drew, the Warlord has been done as the 40k version was originally 3D modelled so it was a case of just scaling things down and getting it to work as a model which can be manufactured.

We may, may, get to see something at the Forge World Open Day…(may, depending on Tony Cottrell)

Heck, we know the game is pretty much ready in terms of rules – Games Workshop showed it in action in February 2017.

Sure, it was a demo and they were using the 40k Scale models – but you get the idea! The rules and even the mock-ups were done, send it to the printers and lets rock, right?! Well…not exactly.

One of the big issues Adeptus Titanicus has faced has been the production of the models. Do you do Resin vs Plastic? Who will produce the models –  Game Workshop (plastic) or Forge World (resin)? What about the scale issues? Details? Different weapon options? Different races? And then there was the issue of capacity. As far as we can tell GW has a pretty set production cycle and they seem to know well in advance when things are going to be ready and ship out. Maybe the Titan’s proved a bit too much for the current work load from GW/FW.

Or maybe the game has been put on the back burner for other reasons. Shadespire is ramping up and looks to be a new, competative game. It really could win over some of the skirmish/competative crowd that enjoys those types of games. And then there is Necromunda on the horizon, too. That’s another boxed game that looks like it’s just about ready to go. Plus Blood Bowl has also been getting a steady stream of releases. And let’s not discount the success of 8th edition. Even without every army getting new kits – it’s been a pretty large release as a whole.

On the flip side, looking at the upcoming things and the known release dates, there are some gaps in the schedule. We’ve got 4 Saturdays between now and the end of October. We know Tyranids are getting a Codex pre-order November 4th. Plus the Eldar should be around the corner as well.

With all that said, we’re still hoping that Adeptus Titanicus shows up sooner rather than later. The teasers and mock-ups we saw got us all really excited. I, personally, would love to see a Warlord Titan kit that was roughly the size of a Knight in plastic if for nothing more than to keep on my desk! And if GW/FW expanded their scope to add in Gargants/Bio-Titans/Chaos Titans/Eldar Titan/T’au Titans…I mean, C’MON! That would be awesome.

 

So where has Adeptus Titanicus gone? Who knows – but is not forgotten!

 

Could you resist an 8mm Scale Warlord Titan? What Titan would you want to add to your collection just because? Let us know in the comments below!

  • kobalt60

    A six inch Titan? Will that be a real 6 inches, or what my wife thinks 6 inches looks like? Looks like I’ll need to stock up on detail brushes either way…..

    • Harry_Jamieson

      I think the girth of the titan will be more important that the height.

      • James Kurokawa

        There are many who say how the titan is used that matters most

        • OldHat

          They are just being polite.

          • James Kurokawa

            So THAT is why we can’t have short barreled volcano cannons

          • Cergorach

            And Titans crews get embarrassed when they have micro volcano cannon on the Titan…

          • Jared van Kell

            It is like they are compensating for something…

      • Iconoc1ast

        My tea ended up shooting out of my nose….

        Lesson to be learned here kids…dont drink anything when reading this comment section!

        XD http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/de22738fbc810112a5fdb2b11d386514d3f884fcbb472dfacfed367c4bd52059.gif

    • 301stFeinminsterArmoured

      Remember: the camera adds 10 pounds…and about 3 inches.

  • Pedwidge

    I don’t mind waiting if it means we get plastic titans. For me, GW is saturating their product right now. I’m going to pass on Shadespire and probably Necromunda until I get my 40k armies, then AoS army in line. It’s nice to see so much being done and I should be able to catch up some day.

    • Cergorach

      Just imagine when you have a complete collection, how much money you would have left to spend on other things then plastic crack…

      • AEZ

        HAHAHAHA… GW will never allow that to happen. New releases every month for each army is the future.. just to milk every cent from your wallet (correction GW doesnt’care about cents.. if you only have a cent left they just make you get 99 cent debt just to get another dollar :D)

    • memitchell

      You just wrote “I’m going to pass on…Necromunda.” That could be an early sign of a brain tumor, or something worse (daemonic possession!?). You should get that checked out.

      • Jared van Kell

        Or have a local inquisitor check it out for you. Admittedly they have an interesting way of inspecting your brain…

      • Pedwidge

        Nothing to fear; it’s just a case of denial. I’m sure that will clear up once the preorder begins. It would be much more difficult to resist if house Delaque was in the box instead of Goliath.

  • Watcherzero

    Get the feeling that while ready to rock its been put on the shelf because of success of the other board games and they don’t want to dilute sales. It will be taken out if one of them starts flagging or flops making space.

    Also don’t know about other stores but out local one is already swamped with the codex and boxed games as well as the Primaris/Deathguard model releases theres no shelf space to fit even the current lineup and rosters that are supposed to be readily available in stores like Astra Militarum, Orks and Tyranids are being pushed in to ever smaller space.

    • Dennis J. Pechavar

      Well then they need to bin those primaris models and get Titanicus on those shelves! Sadly my local store has very little basic models right now partially due to the new edition boosting sales but mainly due to the new boxed games and new toys taking up a great deal of landscape.

      • My store’s completely out of Troops choices, apart from Eldar Guardians, which nobody around here collects…

    • lmn118

      Pretty much this, but with all the companies out there. Warlord for example just bought in New Guinea/Tank War/Resurgence preordered the SS release only for another bundle Berlin to come up on pre order a week later.

      And they complain independents aren’t stocking enough.

  • I_am_Alpharius

    If were to hazard a guess, I would say Necromunda has “taken” the release slot for when Adeptus Titanicus was planned for, after being put back from February. For what reason? Who knows? It could be for a multitude of reasons, none of which FW will necessarily divulge.

    Given FW comments on the huge successful return of BB, it would not surprise me if FW are going to make Adeptus Titanicus a full on return of Epic and not just Titans. Again FW has mentioned that Infantry and Tanks are in mind for down the road, perhaps FW are shorting the road – could FW be looking at having a return of Space Marine alongside Adeptus Titanicus? New/additional tooling has to be fitted into existing plans. WD’s on a 6 month lead time, so articles/photograph anything for that also has, to be figured out too.

    Whenever, making sweeping change to a project will take time to get all their ducks in a row for a release.

    • BaronSnakPak

      It got delayed to rework the sculpts, to include female Titans. Titannes, if you will.

    • Not gonna lie, I’d probably sell off my heresy stuff and switch to Space Marine/AT/Epic/whatever if they did the full heresy model line in 8mm, 30k battles deserve that scale

  • Harry_Jamieson

    In May at WH Fest they mentioned it would follow a similar release plan as they originally had for Bloodbowl, i.e. starter set in plastic along with a couple of standalone additions, and then everything else by FW.

    Whether that will change to more plastic releases depending on demand, as it did with Bloodbowl, remains to be seen.

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Blood Bowl is getting consistent Plastic Releases with specialty characters in resin. Seems like a good model to follow.

  • Fomorian

    I want my epic EPIC back! …

    • Wyatt Q Alvis

      You’re old!

      • ZeeLobby

        Man. I barely skimmed the last bit of epic, but even I want it back. It’s the scale 40K battles should be.

        • Evil Otto

          I’m so old that I refer to Horus as “that pleasant young man,” and I’d love to see Epic return. Failing that, a new titan-themed game at a small scale would be great. There’s nothing like smashing through a city in your multi-story killing robot to make you feel good.

      • Fomorian

        Sshhhhh … i sense Heresy here 😀 😛 …

  • Lord Fangio

    Always did wonder where it went. In March’s issue of White Dwarf the “Next Month” preview even had “Adeptus Titanicus” clearly stated in the list for April. But then no mention of it in the following issue at all

  • SilentPony

    Probably put on back-burner because box games never do well. When was the last time you saw anyone playing Silver Tower? Or BloodBowl? Or Calth? Prospero? Lost Patrol? That freaking boat game?!
    People are playing 8th, Heresy, and I’m told Sigmar still exists in the shadows, though I haven’t seen a game all year.

    • Cergorach

      Blood Bowl is hugely popular, if every game did that well…

      Calth and Prospero were essentially just packaged miniatures with some rules that weren’t all that important. But still sold VERY WELL! Silver Tower is an interesting game, but not a game that has a huge amount of replay value, but again the minis make this lack of replay value worth it.

      Lost Patrol… Meh…

      But Adaptus Titanicus will be a separate game in a separate scale, imho it has the potential to even further milk the whole Horus Heresy thing in a different scale. But the problem with HH was all the resin, while still hugely profitable, it would have been more so if they went plastic right off the bat. So I suspect that after the success of the HH, BB and the two plastic HH boardgames, they are now doing the core game in plastic. Maybe even more then just the core game. Sales are great for GW, but if they want to squeeze more profit out of a product, they need to lower the production costs and plastic will do that if it sells enough…

      • Lost Patrol MEH? How can it be MEH? Is wiping out an entire company of Space Marine Scouts not fun?

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Blood Bowl is actually wildly popular.

      Let’s be honest, Calth and Prospero were just vehilces to sell plastic 30k models.

      What support does GW really need to give to board games? They are an all-in-one product. Board Games are massive right now. Just because you don’t play them doesn’t mean lots of other people are not.

      • SilentPony

        I haven’t seen Blood Bowl played since the day it came out. Certainly none of my local stores, including GW, push the board games at all.

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          You should look into the Blood Bowl facebook group. Its very large and active.

          Maybe you just live in an area where people don’t play?

        • GW stores expressly don’t push specialist games due to limited space

    • I_am_Alpharius

      As others have pointed out the HH games were done to justify the investment in plastic moulds for HH style miniatures. Having plastic kits saves FW a tone of production time in the casting department. Its far cheaper and easier to cast weapons/heads/chest/shoulder pads etc… rather than whole bodies.

      • Red_Five_Standing_By

        So long as you can justify the 100k you to create the plastic mold 🙂

    • Admiral Raptor

      Blood Bowl is GW’s best release in years, and has a great following. AoS is fine if a little starved for attention after 8th dropped. The rest were just alternate ways to peddle miniatures for the main systems. Excepting poor Dreadfleet, that was a well intentioned mistake.

      • AEZ

        I’d buy a box and wood elves.. if there where wood elves to be bought (or sylvaneth if GW went the extra mile).
        I also don’t understand why they are looking at necromunda after shadow war and not a AoS Mordheim release which would make me at least buy the base set (I have the wood elf models but if they went shadespire on it and gave it great new character models (for wood elves or sylvaneth) I’d probably buy a set of those too).

        • Red_Five_Standing_By

          GW has tried to get a small scale 40k game going for a while. I think they had to rejigger things again after 8th launch

          • AEZ

            Against my own intentions I actually bought a box of harleys and the book (I know it’s not that much cash) and started SWA.. I really like the game, sadly 8ths release has stolen the player base.

          • Red_Five_Standing_By

            Necromunda will likely include rules for Xenos. Don’t worry.

          • AEZ

            Necromunda is another complete ruleset.. I don’t want to buy another book for a game that might see little play. It’s not GW’s fault really but the game was played like 3 months in my shop… but GW now releasing a SIMILAR game also shows SWA doesn’t really have any support from their side.

        • Specialist games wasn’t involved in Shadow War, it seems like Necro got moved up after the success of Blood Bowl because they know it’s a virtually guaranteed success. Whether we see a Mordheim style game, who knows, as long as it’s more involved than AOS Skirmish, a cool idea implemented somewhat poorly

    • Which boat game? Man O War or Dreadfleet?

    • I played silver tower last night, I’ve got all my non-gamer buddies playing it actually

  • trygon

    Most likely the postpone until next year to bring a full Epic launch instead. Necromunda Underhive is due for November and most likely no big release of extra games until january of february. (Consider that players have christmas inbetween and can get gift vouchers to spend on new games during the spring).

    The game will probably be a GW launch. If they can get unit boxes for a reasonable price, the general fan base for W40K is huge enought for a new edition of Epic to make good sales. An Epic starter box like Adeptus Mechanicus is likely to get players to have a starting force. Still I think 41st millenia is more probable (and profitable) for a relaunch of Epic than the Horus Heresy.

  • zeno666

    Why bother when they can just throw their super duper heavies into 40k.

    • Dennis J. Pechavar

      It’s still a sore spot for me that you can bring supers to a regular game now. Thankfully for me the group I play with also think that way and we seldom see supers in non apoc games. If you ask ahead of time so your opp can prepare something to deal with it then it’s not frowned on but it’s not the norm. I’m glad others like them but they still change the game in a way I don’t enjoy.

  • Admiral Raptor

    Maybe it died from the shame of not being a full re-release of Epic. It was the only game that allowed you to properly fight battles in the 40k universe.

  • BaronSnakPak

    My question is, where is new Battlefleet Gothic?

    • Red_Five_Standing_By

      Blood Bowl, Tatanticus/Epic and Necrmounda come first.

      • BaronSnakPak

        With the success of X-Wing, you’d think GW would be itching to get their version of star ship battlers out.

        • Aeronautica Imperialis was interesting but it probably died due to FW miniatures cost. I hope they don’t follow the same path with their other games.

        • BFG has very little in common with dogfighting, though, if anything Shadespire is their entry into that realm

  • Jared van Kell

    It is set during the events of the Titandeath which was a major battle within the Great Slaughter at Beta Garmon so I get the feeling that it is going to be released closer to when they truly start covering that in the Horus Heresy books.

  • piglette

    This is going to be another one of those things I spend lots of money on but never play.

  • edendil

    The new release of Adeptus Titanicus is all I am holding out for.

    I have not bought or painted or played a GW game for years now. Not since the meganobz came out. For me the new Adeptus Titanicus / Epic will be the alpha and omega; the first and last GW game I ever play.

    I have been waiting over a decade for it. Bring it on. I have wiped the dust of ages off my wallet and my brush. May the emperor let me command titans in battle again, before I die of old age.

  • little Titans of what?

  • If they put Infantry and Xenos in the game, then it won’t be Adeptus Titanicus, it’ll be EPIC.

  • GnomesForge

    That’s good news. They don’t need to force another artificial scale change down our throats. Sick of the money grubbing, just bring back Epic 6mm or forget it. We need 8mm like we need 40mm Warhammer.

    • Gotta disagree, the minis should drive the scale, if 8mm or 10mm is going to give me better minis, I’d much rather they scrap epic and do it right rather than being beholden to oop models, many of which weren’t scaled properly anyway